1 00:00:04,071 --> 00:00:06,511 Speaker 1: Black Cast, Unite our voices. 2 00:00:07,311 --> 00:00:11,511 Speaker 2: Black Magicalmen Podcast acknowledges the traditional owners of the land 3 00:00:11,831 --> 00:00:15,191 Speaker 2: we have recorded this episode on. We also acknowledge traditional 4 00:00:15,191 --> 00:00:18,271 Speaker 2: owners of the land where you, the listener or viewer 5 00:00:18,391 --> 00:00:19,471 Speaker 2: are tuning in from. 6 00:00:19,711 --> 00:00:21,511 Speaker 1: We would like to pay our respects to our. 7 00:00:21,431 --> 00:00:24,871 Speaker 2: Elders past and present and acknowledge that this always was 8 00:00:24,991 --> 00:00:28,191 Speaker 2: Aboriginal land and always will be Aboriginal land. 9 00:00:28,991 --> 00:00:31,311 Speaker 3: What we do with them over is more so you've 10 00:00:31,311 --> 00:00:32,991 Speaker 3: got to walk the walk to talk to talk. I 11 00:00:33,031 --> 00:00:35,311 Speaker 3: think later on there old ones, we're able to obviously 12 00:00:35,311 --> 00:00:38,591 Speaker 3: make it more sustainable. We will get more opportunity to 13 00:00:38,631 --> 00:00:41,791 Speaker 3: go home and be able to share experiences with our 14 00:00:41,871 --> 00:00:44,111 Speaker 3: children now and obviously fill up their cups as well. 15 00:00:44,111 --> 00:00:46,351 Speaker 3: I want to inspire them and obviously help them become 16 00:00:46,391 --> 00:00:50,111 Speaker 3: better vertits of themselves as well. 17 00:00:50,151 --> 00:00:54,671 Speaker 4: Welcome to the Black Magic Woman Podcast with Mandanara Bail. 18 00:00:58,951 --> 00:01:02,031 Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of the Black Magical Podcast. 19 00:01:02,151 --> 00:01:04,591 Speaker 1: I'm here on my beautiful mother's country. 20 00:01:04,951 --> 00:01:07,791 Speaker 2: It's my mother's mother's mother's mothers and we go back 21 00:01:07,831 --> 00:01:12,071 Speaker 2: to at least the eighteen twenties here on Gadiger Country. 22 00:01:12,871 --> 00:01:16,431 Speaker 2: I'm joined by a band that have just flown in 23 00:01:16,951 --> 00:01:22,071 Speaker 2: here for the South By Southwest Massive conference here in Sydney. 24 00:01:22,471 --> 00:01:24,751 Speaker 2: If you haven't heard about it, you should get online 25 00:01:24,831 --> 00:01:28,471 Speaker 2: for next year and see all of the amazing especially 26 00:01:28,511 --> 00:01:31,671 Speaker 2: black talent that now gets to I guess kind of 27 00:01:31,711 --> 00:01:36,711 Speaker 2: take up space in spaces where it's normally or predominantly 28 00:01:37,071 --> 00:01:41,151 Speaker 2: non Aboriginal people. So today I'm going to have a 29 00:01:41,191 --> 00:01:44,271 Speaker 2: little yarn. If you haven't heard of these fellows before, 30 00:01:44,351 --> 00:01:48,151 Speaker 2: hopefully after today you download their music google them, but 31 00:01:48,231 --> 00:01:52,351 Speaker 2: everything will be in the show notes. So I'm going 32 00:01:52,391 --> 00:01:55,791 Speaker 2: to literally asks now, just one by one if you 33 00:01:55,831 --> 00:01:58,711 Speaker 2: don't mind, you want to introduce yourself to my listeners 34 00:01:58,711 --> 00:02:01,311 Speaker 2: and also some of our viewers on YouTube. 35 00:02:02,631 --> 00:02:04,591 Speaker 1: What's your name? Where you fellows from? 36 00:02:04,791 --> 00:02:08,271 Speaker 2: And then we'll get into how you got an invitation 37 00:02:08,431 --> 00:02:10,111 Speaker 2: to come down here to Sydney. 38 00:02:11,111 --> 00:02:16,231 Speaker 3: Yeah, hey guys, my name is Elijah James. I go 39 00:02:16,311 --> 00:02:19,751 Speaker 3: with the stage name of Uncle Peter. I'm a rapper 40 00:02:19,751 --> 00:02:24,471 Speaker 3: and one of the rappers also play a bit of 41 00:02:24,511 --> 00:02:28,951 Speaker 3: a producing role as well, co producing with DJ DJ jobs. 42 00:02:29,111 --> 00:02:31,391 Speaker 1: Okay, multi talent today. 43 00:02:32,231 --> 00:02:34,591 Speaker 4: We'll stop everybody. My name is John Tae Laury Ro 44 00:02:34,831 --> 00:02:38,391 Speaker 4: named Jelud. I'm also a rapper, a part of Dem 45 00:02:38,391 --> 00:02:39,471 Speaker 4: Mob with them. 46 00:02:39,511 --> 00:02:42,551 Speaker 2: Lauris from caled Stone Mob. Yes, you come from a 47 00:02:42,671 --> 00:02:45,711 Speaker 2: very famous Abergeal family musicians. 48 00:02:46,231 --> 00:02:47,071 Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much. 49 00:02:47,351 --> 00:02:50,431 Speaker 2: Yeah, most most people recognize that last time straight away, 50 00:02:50,511 --> 00:02:53,151 Speaker 2: especially if they grow up Black Deadley. 51 00:02:54,351 --> 00:02:57,311 Speaker 1: Hey, my name's Bus Edwards. 52 00:02:58,191 --> 00:02:59,711 Speaker 4: I'm from Mamada. Yeah. 53 00:02:59,711 --> 00:03:02,071 Speaker 1: I do most of the singing in Demo. 54 00:03:02,431 --> 00:03:05,031 Speaker 2: And how did dem moob? No, that's the band name, right? 55 00:03:05,671 --> 00:03:08,151 Speaker 2: How did it come about? Whose idea was it to go, hey, 56 00:03:08,231 --> 00:03:11,111 Speaker 2: let's get into a band, And how did you even 57 00:03:11,111 --> 00:03:11,551 Speaker 2: come up. 58 00:03:11,431 --> 00:03:13,431 Speaker 1: With the name? Ah? 59 00:03:13,591 --> 00:03:16,831 Speaker 4: Then mob back into us in the nineteen like my 60 00:03:16,951 --> 00:03:20,871 Speaker 4: teacher knowing that was my producer now and also Djo, 61 00:03:21,431 --> 00:03:25,031 Speaker 4: I've known Elasta since Wilch your days back in Adelaide. 62 00:03:25,751 --> 00:03:27,551 Speaker 4: And then yeah, we all had a big talk about it. 63 00:03:27,831 --> 00:03:29,871 Speaker 4: At that time. I was pretty much in an out 64 00:03:29,871 --> 00:03:33,871 Speaker 4: of school, so yeah, just we just all came up 65 00:03:33,871 --> 00:03:36,271 Speaker 4: with a screw name called den Mob. Like Matt came 66 00:03:36,311 --> 00:03:38,111 Speaker 4: up with it first and then was like dem Mob 67 00:03:38,991 --> 00:03:40,791 Speaker 4: sounded like a pretty good name. What about us? More 68 00:03:40,791 --> 00:03:42,031 Speaker 4: Be was like, nah, come on, man, I have to 69 00:03:42,031 --> 00:03:44,551 Speaker 4: put dem Mob. And then that's how the name just 70 00:03:44,991 --> 00:03:49,191 Speaker 4: became its thing. You know. It's between schoolwork becoming this 71 00:03:49,351 --> 00:03:52,751 Speaker 4: big thing. You know, like it's pretty crazy how. 72 00:03:52,631 --> 00:03:55,351 Speaker 2: Long we're talking about when when you kicked off this 73 00:03:55,471 --> 00:03:58,991 Speaker 2: band and said, you know what, we're actually gonna get 74 00:03:59,071 --> 00:03:59,871 Speaker 2: serious about this. 75 00:04:00,351 --> 00:04:02,871 Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, just to touch badge a little bit 76 00:04:02,911 --> 00:04:08,271 Speaker 3: of John, they were saying earlier, there are organically formed 77 00:04:08,311 --> 00:04:11,071 Speaker 3: as a vehicle to get John through his senior schooling. 78 00:04:12,471 --> 00:04:16,671 Speaker 3: So was year eleven and twelve. It was a project 79 00:04:16,791 --> 00:04:20,151 Speaker 3: that was kind of designed to re engage disengaged students, 80 00:04:21,191 --> 00:04:24,791 Speaker 3: obviously using hip hop and elements of culture and language 81 00:04:25,311 --> 00:04:27,751 Speaker 3: and trying to bring hip hop into the classroom more 82 00:04:27,791 --> 00:04:33,231 Speaker 3: so as a form of teaching. And then it kind 83 00:04:33,231 --> 00:04:37,591 Speaker 3: of just naturally kind of built its own thing outside 84 00:04:37,591 --> 00:04:41,711 Speaker 3: of a school project thing. We started doing a couple 85 00:04:41,791 --> 00:04:44,751 Speaker 3: of shows in like a nearby town called Alice Springs, 86 00:04:44,871 --> 00:04:47,631 Speaker 3: was probably five hour drive from where we were based 87 00:04:47,631 --> 00:04:50,631 Speaker 3: at the time. We did like probably two shows a 88 00:04:50,631 --> 00:04:53,311 Speaker 3: month start of a term, end of the term, just 89 00:04:53,351 --> 00:04:55,791 Speaker 3: to kind of like get all the teachers around because 90 00:04:55,791 --> 00:05:00,391 Speaker 3: all the teachers obviously all around came from different states 91 00:05:00,431 --> 00:05:04,871 Speaker 3: and they're obviously living away from their family investing their 92 00:05:04,911 --> 00:05:08,711 Speaker 3: time into teaching our children in our schools. And then yeah, 93 00:05:08,711 --> 00:05:13,351 Speaker 3: if it eventually started picking up, got offered to play festivals, 94 00:05:15,431 --> 00:05:18,671 Speaker 3: and at the time we were still in the Lands, 95 00:05:18,711 --> 00:05:23,071 Speaker 3: we were playing festivals, but still using like the festival 96 00:05:23,071 --> 00:05:25,351 Speaker 3: shows as a way to tick boxes for Johnt their 97 00:05:25,431 --> 00:05:28,711 Speaker 3: senior schooling. So like we played Wormat and we kind 98 00:05:28,711 --> 00:05:33,511 Speaker 3: of used Wormat as an external assignment basically and being like, yeah, 99 00:05:33,711 --> 00:05:37,391 Speaker 3: they's played this, and like we've designed a module to 100 00:05:37,391 --> 00:05:40,711 Speaker 3: obviously replicate that stage into a paper to tick off 101 00:05:40,711 --> 00:05:42,991 Speaker 3: that box, which gets into the paper that he needs. 102 00:05:43,151 --> 00:05:44,831 Speaker 3: And that's how we kind of went about it. And 103 00:05:44,871 --> 00:05:47,911 Speaker 3: then obviously he ended up graduating and obviously Gully was 104 00:05:47,911 --> 00:05:50,271 Speaker 3: a big part of the school stuff. He was always 105 00:05:50,831 --> 00:05:53,831 Speaker 3: trying to find obviously new ways to try and help 106 00:05:53,991 --> 00:05:57,031 Speaker 3: our children at home and disengage students and we'll do 107 00:05:57,151 --> 00:06:00,511 Speaker 3: its plan and talk about these massive ideas and how 108 00:06:00,511 --> 00:06:04,471 Speaker 3: to obviously implement culture and language and music in classroom 109 00:06:04,551 --> 00:06:07,591 Speaker 3: obviously try and get better outcomes from our kids in school. 110 00:06:07,751 --> 00:06:12,231 Speaker 2: Yeah, to satisfy mainstream education curriculum and standards and all 111 00:06:12,231 --> 00:06:18,351 Speaker 2: of that. Basically, that's a pretty impressive school to actually 112 00:06:19,271 --> 00:06:22,791 Speaker 2: acknowledge the strength of Aboriginal culture, the strength of our 113 00:06:22,871 --> 00:06:25,871 Speaker 2: culture when Aboriginal people like us for a younger mob, 114 00:06:26,311 --> 00:06:31,471 Speaker 2: when we're actually encouraged and supported to actually practice our 115 00:06:31,511 --> 00:06:35,031 Speaker 2: culture but also tick the boxes in terms of the 116 00:06:35,191 --> 00:06:39,151 Speaker 2: education the assignments. I've never heard of many schools that 117 00:06:39,191 --> 00:06:43,471 Speaker 2: are being flexible, adaptive and supportive, especially in like you know, 118 00:06:43,631 --> 00:06:44,551 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. 119 00:06:44,991 --> 00:06:49,511 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty crazy, Like I'm proud of it became 120 00:06:49,551 --> 00:06:52,511 Speaker 4: a thing for us and also for me. So yeah, 121 00:06:52,551 --> 00:06:55,991 Speaker 4: big love and shout out to Elashaw and Matt and 122 00:06:55,991 --> 00:06:59,191 Speaker 4: also be too, you know, you know, demmobile, groued and 123 00:06:59,711 --> 00:07:03,311 Speaker 4: these guys being flexible not in that curriculum. It was 124 00:07:03,991 --> 00:07:06,191 Speaker 4: pretty amazing and just. 125 00:07:07,431 --> 00:07:12,471 Speaker 2: That inspiration now to this next younger mob family, cousins, 126 00:07:12,951 --> 00:07:17,271 Speaker 2: brother sisters, to be able to Like you said, sometimes 127 00:07:17,311 --> 00:07:20,391 Speaker 2: I feel a little bit kind of disheartened when they 128 00:07:20,711 --> 00:07:24,551 Speaker 2: label our label black kids as disengaged. What it is 129 00:07:24,551 --> 00:07:27,831 Speaker 2: is this, this curriculum and this system doesn't fit within 130 00:07:27,911 --> 00:07:31,311 Speaker 2: our culture and we need to make it work right. 131 00:07:31,351 --> 00:07:34,991 Speaker 2: So how do we make education and learning in white 132 00:07:34,991 --> 00:07:38,751 Speaker 2: mainstream schools? How do you make it fun, engaging and 133 00:07:38,831 --> 00:07:42,711 Speaker 2: exciting and stimulating that our kids. 134 00:07:42,551 --> 00:07:44,871 Speaker 1: Can't wait to go to school. I went to a 135 00:07:44,871 --> 00:07:45,431 Speaker 1: black school. 136 00:07:45,431 --> 00:07:48,471 Speaker 2: I went to a Murray school all Aboriginal kids, twenty 137 00:07:48,511 --> 00:07:51,631 Speaker 2: seven of us and I'm on the board of that 138 00:07:51,671 --> 00:07:54,591 Speaker 2: school now. My grandmother's brother thirty years ago in Brisbane 139 00:07:54,671 --> 00:07:58,631 Speaker 2: founded that school. I went to thirteen other schools, dealt 140 00:07:58,671 --> 00:08:02,911 Speaker 2: with a lot of racism. My name Mandanara is rainbow 141 00:08:02,911 --> 00:08:05,791 Speaker 2: in my language. But that also kind of gave me up. 142 00:08:06,911 --> 00:08:10,431 Speaker 2: So being an Abiginal kid trying to kind of navigate 143 00:08:10,511 --> 00:08:16,151 Speaker 2: white mainstream school systems and dealing with racism, I felt 144 00:08:16,151 --> 00:08:18,951 Speaker 2: disengaged as well, trying to figure out like do I 145 00:08:18,951 --> 00:08:20,551 Speaker 2: want to finish school? Why do we get sent to 146 00:08:20,591 --> 00:08:25,471 Speaker 2: the school, and also starting to question like am I 147 00:08:25,551 --> 00:08:25,951 Speaker 2: the problem? 148 00:08:25,991 --> 00:08:28,271 Speaker 1: What's wrong with me? I've got five. 149 00:08:28,151 --> 00:08:32,791 Speaker 2: Kids and one of my kids he struggles with this education. 150 00:08:32,911 --> 00:08:33,951 Speaker 1: Is it tutoring? Now? 151 00:08:35,551 --> 00:08:37,751 Speaker 2: You know, if you could just say anything to these 152 00:08:37,791 --> 00:08:41,351 Speaker 2: young mob that people have kind of given up on them, 153 00:08:41,471 --> 00:08:44,751 Speaker 2: or you know, they don't have this opportunity or the 154 00:08:44,831 --> 00:08:49,911 Speaker 2: support to go into a school classroom where people are going, oh, look, culture. 155 00:08:49,951 --> 00:08:54,231 Speaker 2: We know that fabriginal people and kids are encouraged and 156 00:08:54,271 --> 00:08:56,911 Speaker 2: supported to practice their culture. We can implement this in 157 00:08:56,951 --> 00:08:59,311 Speaker 2: the curriculum. So a lot of our kids are not 158 00:08:59,351 --> 00:09:02,911 Speaker 2: going to get this opportunity round. But already they're kind of, 159 00:09:03,711 --> 00:09:05,711 Speaker 2: you know, kind of. I wouldn't say that they've been 160 00:09:08,351 --> 00:09:10,791 Speaker 2: or just say like, yeah, people have given up on 161 00:09:10,871 --> 00:09:13,991 Speaker 2: them as a lot of our young people, and teachers 162 00:09:13,991 --> 00:09:17,791 Speaker 2: play very important role and our young people, you know, 163 00:09:17,871 --> 00:09:20,631 Speaker 2: whether they can build confidence in them to back themselves 164 00:09:21,071 --> 00:09:24,311 Speaker 2: like we're deadly people. But for a long time it's 165 00:09:24,391 --> 00:09:29,151 Speaker 2: been this negative kind of stigma amongst us as Abasinal people. 166 00:09:29,671 --> 00:09:31,831 Speaker 1: So I think this is a deadly yarn. Kicking it 167 00:09:31,871 --> 00:09:33,631 Speaker 1: off with how do we make. 168 00:09:33,551 --> 00:09:35,951 Speaker 2: First education and culture? How do we bring it together, 169 00:09:36,071 --> 00:09:39,231 Speaker 2: bringing the Aboriginal world and white follow world together and 170 00:09:39,991 --> 00:09:43,511 Speaker 2: make it work. Otherwise you know where would you be today? 171 00:09:43,551 --> 00:09:47,871 Speaker 2: You know if that program wasn't available, you probably wouldn't 172 00:09:47,871 --> 00:09:51,391 Speaker 2: have these opportunities, right, And this is all of our 173 00:09:51,471 --> 00:09:54,791 Speaker 2: kids right across this country. And I really can't wait 174 00:09:54,831 --> 00:09:56,591 Speaker 2: for people to hear this. Yeah, and already we only 175 00:09:56,671 --> 00:10:00,631 Speaker 2: just got started, but music right, education is important. 176 00:10:00,951 --> 00:10:01,391 Speaker 1: Education. 177 00:10:02,671 --> 00:10:05,631 Speaker 2: Without it, we're not going to be able to get 178 00:10:05,631 --> 00:10:07,751 Speaker 2: a job. We're not going to be able to buy 179 00:10:07,751 --> 00:10:11,631 Speaker 2: a car and pay our rent and support our families. 180 00:10:11,671 --> 00:10:14,711 Speaker 2: And you do the thing, buy shoes, buy clothes, do 181 00:10:14,791 --> 00:10:23,911 Speaker 2: all the nice things right. So education is important, getting 182 00:10:23,911 --> 00:10:27,831 Speaker 2: a job, but music, music obviously has been the main 183 00:10:27,911 --> 00:10:31,551 Speaker 2: part now of the success of the band coming together. 184 00:10:32,271 --> 00:10:34,551 Speaker 1: How have you been able to then? Kind of I 185 00:10:34,591 --> 00:10:36,991 Speaker 1: don't know, you've got a manager? Now you've got. 186 00:10:37,071 --> 00:10:40,191 Speaker 2: Because youse follows are still young. Who's been behind you 187 00:10:40,311 --> 00:10:44,591 Speaker 2: to give you then the knowledge and the understanding of 188 00:10:44,751 --> 00:10:48,071 Speaker 2: being in an industry like this music industry now so 189 00:10:48,111 --> 00:10:50,151 Speaker 2: that you fellows can do this for the next ten 190 00:10:50,271 --> 00:10:50,951 Speaker 2: twenty years. 191 00:10:52,031 --> 00:10:54,951 Speaker 3: I guess it just goes back to the men that 192 00:10:55,071 --> 00:10:58,991 Speaker 3: started everything. Cully has been a big part of our 193 00:10:59,071 --> 00:11:04,791 Speaker 3: development individually as young Indigenous men. It has been a 194 00:11:04,911 --> 00:11:08,031 Speaker 3: consistent obviously male role model to us as younger did 195 00:11:08,111 --> 00:11:12,471 Speaker 3: this man he's just he's always had her back since 196 00:11:12,471 --> 00:11:15,151 Speaker 3: I started, like he manages us that he manages and 197 00:11:15,231 --> 00:11:19,511 Speaker 3: DJs we are looking for obviously more like support for 198 00:11:19,591 --> 00:11:22,351 Speaker 3: his behalf because he's doing so much. 199 00:11:22,311 --> 00:11:24,911 Speaker 1: Well here see that camera at the moment. 200 00:11:25,351 --> 00:11:29,511 Speaker 2: Tell people that are listening and watching this, what is 201 00:11:29,551 --> 00:11:31,831 Speaker 2: it that she follows need to be able to keep 202 00:11:32,591 --> 00:11:35,191 Speaker 2: living out your dream and doing what she loves so 203 00:11:35,271 --> 00:11:38,431 Speaker 2: that this you could keep inspiring our more ab our 204 00:11:38,511 --> 00:11:39,511 Speaker 2: young mob as well. 205 00:11:40,911 --> 00:11:44,871 Speaker 3: I guess it's just obviously trying to gain more exposure 206 00:11:45,671 --> 00:11:48,791 Speaker 3: within what we do with demo is more so we're 207 00:11:48,791 --> 00:11:51,831 Speaker 3: trying to obviously, you know, you've got to walk the 208 00:11:51,911 --> 00:11:54,431 Speaker 3: walk to talk to talk, and with kids at home, 209 00:11:54,991 --> 00:11:57,951 Speaker 3: they're always obviously watching us now on social media, and 210 00:11:57,991 --> 00:11:59,991 Speaker 3: when we go home, they've always got so much questions 211 00:12:00,391 --> 00:12:03,031 Speaker 3: and they're always excited for us to go back. But 212 00:12:03,151 --> 00:12:07,871 Speaker 3: because we haven't, we don't have much support obviously outside 213 00:12:07,911 --> 00:12:09,911 Speaker 3: in the industry at the moment. Like we obviously we're 214 00:12:09,951 --> 00:12:13,551 Speaker 3: still connecting and building our connections within networking and that stuff. 215 00:12:13,711 --> 00:12:15,671 Speaker 3: I think later on the road, once we're able to 216 00:12:15,751 --> 00:12:19,231 Speaker 3: obviously make it more sustainable, we will get more opportunity 217 00:12:19,351 --> 00:12:22,271 Speaker 3: to go home and be able to you know, share 218 00:12:22,351 --> 00:12:25,191 Speaker 3: experiences with that with our children and obviously fill up 219 00:12:25,191 --> 00:12:28,711 Speaker 3: their cups as well to inspire them and obviously help 220 00:12:28,791 --> 00:12:30,831 Speaker 3: them become better versits of themselves as well. 221 00:12:31,311 --> 00:12:34,791 Speaker 2: Yeah, and winning awards, right, I heard about this one 222 00:12:35,271 --> 00:12:38,911 Speaker 2: just for community. Just how much how much did it 223 00:12:38,991 --> 00:12:41,471 Speaker 2: mean to you? What was it like that feeling to 224 00:12:41,511 --> 00:12:47,631 Speaker 2: be acknowledged winning an award and kind of yeah, just celebrating. 225 00:12:47,591 --> 00:12:50,031 Speaker 4: Winning the awards was pretty big for us. It was 226 00:12:50,031 --> 00:12:53,751 Speaker 4: our goal you know last year. So we won like 227 00:12:53,791 --> 00:12:57,991 Speaker 4: five awards, just five look at a road like like 228 00:12:58,271 --> 00:13:00,911 Speaker 4: I was shocked, Like I thought like one could just 229 00:13:01,551 --> 00:13:05,071 Speaker 4: make us more excited because we worked so hard last year. 230 00:13:05,711 --> 00:13:07,751 Speaker 4: So with those awards we did, we gave it to 231 00:13:07,911 --> 00:13:12,671 Speaker 4: CHASM that's University of Adelaide, Yes, yeah, and then you know, 232 00:13:12,751 --> 00:13:16,511 Speaker 4: I gave mine to my family. Elasha did the same. Yeah, 233 00:13:16,551 --> 00:13:19,831 Speaker 4: best so too. And we also gave one back to 234 00:13:19,951 --> 00:13:24,271 Speaker 4: er School that's where I grew up and learned. So yeah, 235 00:13:24,351 --> 00:13:28,191 Speaker 4: like for that, like awards, it's just it is a 236 00:13:28,191 --> 00:13:30,991 Speaker 4: big thing, and like that also shows us too that 237 00:13:31,071 --> 00:13:33,551 Speaker 4: way out we do all music. Yeah, but well. 238 00:13:33,551 --> 00:13:35,671 Speaker 2: People loving it, people love them, which is it producing 239 00:13:35,671 --> 00:13:37,191 Speaker 2: what you're making ye went. 240 00:13:37,191 --> 00:13:39,391 Speaker 4: Yeah, And we also love giving back to the community too, 241 00:13:39,431 --> 00:13:40,351 Speaker 4: So go back. 242 00:13:40,231 --> 00:13:43,111 Speaker 2: To shows and sometimes it'll be good to be you know, 243 00:13:43,231 --> 00:13:45,031 Speaker 2: like hey, look at we've got some money here. 244 00:13:45,071 --> 00:13:46,071 Speaker 1: We're going to get paid to do this. 245 00:13:46,711 --> 00:13:48,471 Speaker 2: A lot of it's for the love, right, We're doing 246 00:13:48,551 --> 00:13:50,351 Speaker 2: it for a lot of the time, for our family, 247 00:13:50,511 --> 00:13:54,471 Speaker 2: for our communities, culture and language. I know that you Fellas, 248 00:13:54,711 --> 00:13:58,351 Speaker 2: it's number one for you Fellas, right and your language 249 00:13:58,391 --> 00:14:00,191 Speaker 2: you want to tell people some of the music that 250 00:14:00,191 --> 00:14:04,311 Speaker 2: you're seeing is in your language, some tringational language. 251 00:14:04,311 --> 00:14:06,311 Speaker 1: I was here and you're speaking before. 252 00:14:07,151 --> 00:14:10,991 Speaker 3: So yeah, we speak bidding data, young good data. It's 253 00:14:11,071 --> 00:14:16,191 Speaker 3: kind of like more desert mobs Central Australia. I guess 254 00:14:16,271 --> 00:14:20,911 Speaker 3: like the we rap both in both languages just to 255 00:14:20,951 --> 00:14:24,591 Speaker 3: be able to obviously share messages and just to create 256 00:14:24,671 --> 00:14:29,031 Speaker 3: a bit of separation between messages within songs. And I 257 00:14:29,031 --> 00:14:31,511 Speaker 3: think it's a cool way. It's it's very creative on 258 00:14:31,711 --> 00:14:34,871 Speaker 3: obviously being able to touch base with two audiences within 259 00:14:34,991 --> 00:14:39,231 Speaker 3: one verse or within two sentences within the rap. And 260 00:14:39,311 --> 00:14:42,711 Speaker 3: I think that's I don't know for me, like, yeah, 261 00:14:42,711 --> 00:14:45,231 Speaker 3: I just love when the songs are coming up and 262 00:14:45,271 --> 00:14:47,471 Speaker 3: I know when it's going to get to the switching 263 00:14:47,511 --> 00:14:50,911 Speaker 3: from language to language. It just gives you that opportunity 264 00:14:50,911 --> 00:14:53,951 Speaker 3: to really obviously be able to represent who you are 265 00:14:53,951 --> 00:14:56,791 Speaker 3: as an ideness person and really like speak your language 266 00:14:56,791 --> 00:14:59,311 Speaker 3: but rap it at the same time confidently. But then 267 00:14:59,311 --> 00:15:01,831 Speaker 3: you're obviously seamlessly switching flows. And I think that's the 268 00:15:01,871 --> 00:15:03,431 Speaker 3: cool respective writers. 269 00:15:03,831 --> 00:15:06,391 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's telling them younger mob too, dude, you know 270 00:15:06,431 --> 00:15:09,871 Speaker 2: how important it is to to learn their culture, to 271 00:15:09,951 --> 00:15:11,511 Speaker 2: learn their language to sit. 272 00:15:11,431 --> 00:15:14,511 Speaker 1: With them old people. That's a you know. 273 00:15:14,511 --> 00:15:16,271 Speaker 2: A lot of us are privileged, a lot of us 274 00:15:16,311 --> 00:15:20,191 Speaker 2: to have that kind of exposure and culture. But there's 275 00:15:20,191 --> 00:15:23,751 Speaker 2: a lot of our mob that, unfortunately, for whatever circumstances, 276 00:15:23,791 --> 00:15:26,111 Speaker 2: haven't had the opportunity to learn our language or find 277 00:15:26,111 --> 00:15:29,711 Speaker 2: their people or their country. So people are listening now, 278 00:15:29,871 --> 00:15:33,471 Speaker 2: especially when you think about any of our mob, especially 279 00:15:33,511 --> 00:15:36,751 Speaker 2: wanting to be you fellas sitting on this couch now, 280 00:15:37,551 --> 00:15:40,031 Speaker 2: you know, what would you say to them? If there's 281 00:15:40,071 --> 00:15:42,391 Speaker 2: younger people now listening because they want to be part 282 00:15:42,391 --> 00:15:42,911 Speaker 2: of them mob? 283 00:15:43,311 --> 00:15:47,191 Speaker 4: Ah, you know, just keep pushing forward, you know, like 284 00:15:47,591 --> 00:15:49,951 Speaker 4: even though you're indigenous or not, you know, just keep 285 00:15:49,951 --> 00:15:53,191 Speaker 4: working harder than others, but don't trying to impress others. 286 00:15:53,271 --> 00:15:57,111 Speaker 4: Impress yourself and spy yourself, and keep pushing towards like 287 00:15:57,631 --> 00:16:02,591 Speaker 4: break rules, you know, push limits, like yeah, it's keep 288 00:16:02,791 --> 00:16:05,671 Speaker 4: going ahead, you know, just don't think nothing more but 289 00:16:06,351 --> 00:16:09,231 Speaker 4: what's good for you? You know, thank you. 290 00:16:09,351 --> 00:16:10,591 Speaker 1: Out back yourself. 291 00:16:12,351 --> 00:16:14,831 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say for you, like from now, 292 00:16:14,951 --> 00:16:17,631 Speaker 2: from here, what's going on? Like, what's what's your next 293 00:16:17,631 --> 00:16:20,151 Speaker 2: big Can you share with us any projects anything in 294 00:16:20,191 --> 00:16:24,071 Speaker 2: the pipeline? You're performing somewhere where. What's going on for 295 00:16:24,111 --> 00:16:26,071 Speaker 2: the next sa twelve months for your follows. 296 00:16:26,351 --> 00:16:29,471 Speaker 3: We're kind of and I think after this, after South Byer, 297 00:16:29,511 --> 00:16:32,791 Speaker 3: we're gonna hit the studio. We're working on an album, 298 00:16:33,711 --> 00:16:35,911 Speaker 3: which is kind of cool. I think we're excited to 299 00:16:37,391 --> 00:16:40,911 Speaker 3: well at that point where we're like, we've kind of 300 00:16:41,111 --> 00:16:44,271 Speaker 3: found our feet with what we want to do sound wise. 301 00:16:45,111 --> 00:16:48,831 Speaker 3: I think the last four to five years was obviously 302 00:16:48,871 --> 00:16:52,071 Speaker 3: searching for what we wanted to do and what we 303 00:16:52,271 --> 00:16:55,031 Speaker 3: whatever we released, what was going to represent us the best. 304 00:16:55,391 --> 00:16:58,191 Speaker 3: And I think we're at that point, so we're gonna 305 00:16:58,231 --> 00:17:01,111 Speaker 3: hit the studio. We're looking to get an album at 306 00:17:02,191 --> 00:17:04,031 Speaker 3: or album ready by the end of the year. We're 307 00:17:04,031 --> 00:17:06,111 Speaker 3: not sure when they're going to drop it yet. And 308 00:17:06,231 --> 00:17:09,751 Speaker 3: next year we've got an artist coming over from New York. 309 00:17:09,791 --> 00:17:13,591 Speaker 3: Her name's Jasmia. We're hitting the studio with her when 310 00:17:13,631 --> 00:17:18,511 Speaker 3: we get back to Adelaide starting from Monday. We're doing 311 00:17:18,511 --> 00:17:20,991 Speaker 3: a collab with her. The colab is going to be 312 00:17:21,071 --> 00:17:24,151 Speaker 3: a part of our album. She's coming in as like 313 00:17:24,191 --> 00:17:30,311 Speaker 3: a mentor to obviously help us further our industry schools 314 00:17:30,351 --> 00:17:35,631 Speaker 3: more as artists, but also as obviously young fellas that 315 00:17:35,671 --> 00:17:38,191 Speaker 3: are still trying to find our feit in the industry 316 00:17:38,231 --> 00:17:40,151 Speaker 3: and just give us a bit of advice and like 317 00:17:40,751 --> 00:17:42,911 Speaker 3: where to go to and how we should go about 318 00:17:42,951 --> 00:17:44,551 Speaker 3: the next couple of years of our journey. 319 00:17:46,191 --> 00:17:50,511 Speaker 2: I'm so literally so excited for you fellas to be 320 00:17:50,551 --> 00:17:52,711 Speaker 2: able to you know, do what you love doing, you know, 321 00:17:52,871 --> 00:17:56,311 Speaker 2: sharing your culture, practicing your culture, going back to your 322 00:17:56,351 --> 00:18:00,631 Speaker 2: community and being you know that that kind of it's 323 00:18:00,671 --> 00:18:03,631 Speaker 2: not even providing hope for our young people, but sometimes 324 00:18:03,671 --> 00:18:05,711 Speaker 2: seems like there's a lot of a lot of ship 325 00:18:05,791 --> 00:18:08,951 Speaker 2: that we deal with as black fellows in our communities are. 326 00:18:10,271 --> 00:18:13,151 Speaker 2: And sometimes music, I know, when I listen to music, 327 00:18:13,151 --> 00:18:16,231 Speaker 2: it's like an escape listen to music, but listening to 328 00:18:16,271 --> 00:18:20,751 Speaker 2: black music, I feel empowered. So people can listen to you. 329 00:18:20,911 --> 00:18:24,631 Speaker 2: Where do they find you? Before we wrap up? Raise out, YouTube, Spotify, 330 00:18:24,671 --> 00:18:25,191 Speaker 2: which way. 331 00:18:25,231 --> 00:18:30,351 Speaker 4: You can find us on Spotify, YouTube and like Instagram, Facebook, 332 00:18:30,351 --> 00:18:33,911 Speaker 4: you know, like we're everywhere everywhere, Yeah, pretty much everywhere. 333 00:18:33,951 --> 00:18:35,871 Speaker 3: Yeah, give us a shout out if you ever want 334 00:18:35,871 --> 00:18:38,151 Speaker 3: to talk, If you ever want to chat, just click 335 00:18:38,231 --> 00:18:41,111 Speaker 3: us a message and one of us will get. 336 00:18:43,031 --> 00:18:43,791 Speaker 1: Before they get. 337 00:18:43,671 --> 00:18:45,991 Speaker 2: Too big, too famous and you need to ring someone 338 00:18:46,031 --> 00:18:48,431 Speaker 2: to talk to someone, to get to someone. You better 339 00:18:48,471 --> 00:18:50,991 Speaker 2: reach out to these fellows now before they blow up. 340 00:18:51,311 --> 00:18:52,911 Speaker 1: Triple J. You fellows on the radio. 341 00:18:53,911 --> 00:18:56,111 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah. To be honest, I was crazy because 342 00:18:56,111 --> 00:18:57,871 Speaker 4: I heard about that and I was like, Triple J 343 00:18:59,151 --> 00:19:01,431 Speaker 4: I never even heard of myself, Like, yeah, that was 344 00:19:01,511 --> 00:19:03,911 Speaker 4: pretty incredible. Like that was like, oh yeah, I was 345 00:19:03,911 --> 00:19:11,671 Speaker 4: on Triple Jay. And and then I'll sit and they're like, yeah, okay. 346 00:19:10,271 --> 00:19:13,511 Speaker 2: That's a pinch pinch yourself moment. Your fellas growing up 347 00:19:13,551 --> 00:19:17,511 Speaker 2: in the community and now getting the opportunity. 348 00:19:16,911 --> 00:19:19,711 Speaker 1: To travel the world. I heard it was in one 349 00:19:19,711 --> 00:19:22,831 Speaker 1: of the tallest buildings. How many stories, how many levels 350 00:19:24,551 --> 00:19:25,031 Speaker 1: on the ground. 351 00:19:25,671 --> 00:19:27,111 Speaker 4: I swear it was one hundred and two. 352 00:19:28,791 --> 00:19:31,911 Speaker 2: Your fellows, you just look like everyday black fellows you 353 00:19:31,991 --> 00:19:34,991 Speaker 2: see down street. So hello, next minute is a you know, 354 00:19:35,231 --> 00:19:40,271 Speaker 2: singing and performing on global stages at global events for 355 00:19:40,511 --> 00:19:43,191 Speaker 2: my audience that have never heard of these fellows. I'm 356 00:19:43,231 --> 00:19:45,711 Speaker 2: sure now people be looking yours apps. I just want 357 00:19:45,751 --> 00:19:49,951 Speaker 2: to say congratulations for everything that you've achieved so far. 358 00:19:50,311 --> 00:19:52,991 Speaker 2: And I know, like I said, ive got I'm a mom, 359 00:19:53,031 --> 00:19:57,471 Speaker 2: I got little follows. They like to wrap. Maybe one 360 00:19:57,511 --> 00:19:59,431 Speaker 2: day they might take it serious. Especially if they get 361 00:19:59,471 --> 00:20:01,911 Speaker 2: to sit and watch you, fellows. I would listen to 362 00:20:01,951 --> 00:20:04,591 Speaker 2: the podcast. Now, how many more of our young people 363 00:20:04,631 --> 00:20:07,151 Speaker 2: you might be able to say, Hey, there is there 364 00:20:07,231 --> 00:20:09,191 Speaker 2: is you know, there's light at the end of the tunnel. 365 00:20:09,231 --> 00:20:12,551 Speaker 1: There is opportunities. Don't give up. 366 00:20:12,631 --> 00:20:14,911 Speaker 2: Stay in school. I always tell my kids they want 367 00:20:14,951 --> 00:20:18,231 Speaker 2: to quit school. I said, don't worry's school right now. 368 00:20:18,231 --> 00:20:19,991 Speaker 1: It's just a thing. It's going to be in the 369 00:20:20,031 --> 00:20:21,591 Speaker 1: past one that it's not forever. 370 00:20:21,751 --> 00:20:23,431 Speaker 4: I mean, like I did work to school a lot. 371 00:20:23,511 --> 00:20:25,311 Speaker 4: I did drop that a bit, but I regretted that. 372 00:20:25,511 --> 00:20:28,671 Speaker 4: So yeah, eleven and year twelve was the time to 373 00:20:28,671 --> 00:20:31,831 Speaker 4: redeem myself. So don't drop bad guys. Trust me like 374 00:20:31,951 --> 00:20:32,911 Speaker 4: it's terrible. 375 00:20:33,111 --> 00:20:35,871 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't make the mistakes. Listen to this fellow is 376 00:20:35,951 --> 00:20:38,191 Speaker 2: been there, done that, and look where he is now. 377 00:20:38,671 --> 00:20:41,271 Speaker 2: So I just want to say all the best here 378 00:20:41,791 --> 00:20:45,431 Speaker 2: on my country. I hope you have a deadly show 379 00:20:45,551 --> 00:20:48,191 Speaker 2: and you have the best time ever. Next time maybe 380 00:20:48,191 --> 00:20:50,191 Speaker 2: we come, we'll be able to come visit your community 381 00:20:50,191 --> 00:20:52,791 Speaker 2: and see you fellas in your in your own environment 382 00:20:52,831 --> 00:20:56,311 Speaker 2: and your own elements. So all the best for south 383 00:20:56,351 --> 00:20:58,511 Speaker 2: By Southwest, stay black. 384 00:21:00,951 --> 00:21:02,311 Speaker 1: You're welcome, my brother thank you. 385 00:21:02,831 --> 00:21:03,951 Speaker 4: Hell yeah. 386 00:21:04,511 --> 00:21:07,551 Speaker 2: If you'd like any more info on today's guest, please 387 00:21:07,671 --> 00:21:12,431 Speaker 2: visit our show notes in the episode description. A big 388 00:21:12,471 --> 00:21:15,231 Speaker 2: shout out to all you Deadly Mob and allies who 389 00:21:15,271 --> 00:21:19,231 Speaker 2: continue to listen, watch, and support our podcast. Your feedback 390 00:21:19,351 --> 00:21:22,511 Speaker 2: means the world. 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