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Speaker 3: Mark and you'd marry Elon. Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we don't need to keep this. Let's go one

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Speaker 1: all the come on, come on, we're running on time.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say one of what his lower back

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Welcome back to two doting dads. Well, one doting

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Speaker 2: dad and one doting mum. It is the wife and

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Speaker 2: the mother of Lola and Marley. I'm not the wife

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Speaker 2: of Lola and Marley. Let me go, let me start

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Speaker 2: that again. It's the wife of Maddie j but the mother.

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Speaker 4: Of Lola and Marley.

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Speaker 3: Hello, thank you for having me back.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, it's been delightful. It's nice feeling into my husband.

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Speaker 1: Who do I send the invoice to, though es Matt.

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Speaker 4: This is a part us all about parenting.

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Speaker 3: It's the good, the bad, and the relatable.

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Speaker 1: And if you came here for any advice, scram I

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Speaker 1: don't know how that get out of here.

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Speaker 2: This is week two of dealing without Matt, living without Matt.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, can can I talk today? Note?

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Speaker 1: I do think that we have We are both doing

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Speaker 1: glue that keeps the well. Actually, no, Jesse, your producer,

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Speaker 1: is the glue that keeps this podcast together. But Matt

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, Mabiac.

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Speaker 1: I think that Matt is the very important glue that

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Speaker 1: he is the literally the binding age too. And I

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Speaker 1: it really hard. How many he's been gone since last Monday,

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Speaker 1: Nine days? But hear me out. I originally thought that

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Speaker 1: There's been some really like proud moments that I've had

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Speaker 1: of him being on the show so far. But what

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Speaker 1: I underestimated is how much time a relationship actually takes.

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Speaker 1: So I kind of originally when I thought, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: So what you find yourself you get high? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: We were all together watching the very first episode.

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Speaker 1: We had a launch party with all of Matt's friends

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Speaker 2: I went with the parenting technique called distraction.

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Speaker 4: He tried a rationale.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a great chat, incredible anyway.

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Speaker 1: They did because it's the only show that everyone's watching,

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Speaker 2: But it's like, oh, I get I know why I

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Speaker 1: How are you watching I'm a sleb or are you

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, look, I feel like we've covered enough.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about how I'm dealing without him.

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Speaker 3: We don't get out of here. Gives you're seven or nine? Now,

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Speaker 3: She kicked her sister so fucking hard, straight in the vagina.

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Speaker 4: No, I think you've done the right thing, do we?

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Speaker 2: seen as an adult. You're eighteen, You can drink, you

448
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,320
Speaker 2: can do this sort of stuff that the kids can't do,

449
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,880
Speaker 2: and I think you can. You can easily say, hey,

450
00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 2: don't kick your fucking sister.

451
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:25,400
Speaker 3: In the vagina.

452
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:30,720
Speaker 2: In the vagina you're in the face, kick your somewhere

453
00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 2: more appropriate. I think you're in every right to be like, hey,

454
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 2: you can't be you let them jewel it out.

455
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 3: On the street's throwing money at them. Would you step

456
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:40,120
Speaker 3: in though?

457
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,000
Speaker 1: Because I asked this question of a girlfriend of mine

458
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 1: who's also a great parent, actually was Matt's sister, and

459
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 1: she was like, not my circus, not my clowns. I

460
00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,560
Speaker 1: would not say anything if it's someone else's kids. And

461
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 1: I found that interesting because the parental urge in me

462
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,680
Speaker 1: just could not stop myself.

463
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 2: I think, like, yes, it's each to their own whether

464
00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,400
Speaker 2: they want to get involved or not. But I think

465
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,120
Speaker 2: you are in what capacity. I think you just said

466
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,879
Speaker 2: the right thing saying hey, don't don't kick your sister.

467
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 3: I've then grounded her for a week. She's still grounded

468
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 3: good things. She lives on the street, but she's like,

469
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 3: I'm fine out here. I look.

470
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,159
Speaker 2: I am known for telling off other people's kids, and

471
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 2: I did have an instance where it backfired.

472
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 3: What happened.

473
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 4: If you'd like to hear about that, let.

474
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 3: Me cast you back.

475
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 2: It was back when Macy was somewhere between six and

476
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 2: nine months old, maybe not closer to the nine month mark,

477
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,360
Speaker 2: so she's still really little, sitting up on her own,

478
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 2: but that's probably about it. And I went down and

479
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,679
Speaker 2: met a mate at a pub near my place that

480
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,479
Speaker 2: has like a little play area for kids. It's not

481
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 2: there's not big jungle jins or anything. It's just like

482
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 2: a small little play area.

483
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 1: Good for little kids. But like anything over about five,

484
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 1: they get bored instantly.

485
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I met my mate. It was just us and Macy.

486
00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 2: We go into the kids area. This block of wood

487
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 2: comes flying past by. Who exactly it's a bigger kid.

488
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 2: I leaned over with my desk.

489
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 1: I'd be frightened of you if I was a kid. Really,

490
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 1: I got tattoos here. Scary to a kid. Yeah, I

491
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 1: know you're a big software.

492
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,880
Speaker 4: This kid wasn't yet of me. He would have been

493
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,919
Speaker 4: like tenkay okay.

494
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 2: And he's obviously there, his family's off whatever. He's there

495
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 2: with his little brother and they're laughing about it and whatever.

496
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, well, maybe it was

497
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 2: just a one off. And then another block comes flying

498
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 2: across the room, and I was like, can you not?

499
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,679
Speaker 3: And they were like, what are you gonna do about it?

500
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 4: What are you gonna do about it?

501
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 2: And then another block comes across and I just stand

502
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 2: up and I've got Mazie. She's tiny, and I was like,

503
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 2: can you stop throwing fucking block?

504
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 1: Like the other ways you could have dealt with it first,

505
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: but cool, we went there.

506
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 3: It escalated, Look, that is not right. It wasn't you.

507
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 3: You're not a new parent. You've got an older kid.

508
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 2: That was wrong of me, Yes, okay, that was wrong

509
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 2: of me to use the languid anyway. That seemed to

510
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 2: get his attention because his little brother was like, you.

511
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 3: Can't use naughty words.

512
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: And they both ran off, and I thought that's a

513
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 2: double you. Yeah, but I didn't know.

514
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 4: That at the time.

515
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 3: I just thought they'd ran off and I was like,

516
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 3: fuck they thank god.

517
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 2: And I'm sitting there and then I see the kid

518
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 2: come back around the corner and he's come back around

519
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 2: the corner with dad.

520
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:30,439
Speaker 4: Anyway.

521
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 2: Dad's about six foot four, one hundred and thirty plus kilos,

522
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 2: full beard, covered in tattoos.

523
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 3: Oh so that's why he wasn't frightened. Why he was

524
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 3: You're like the miniature version of you look like my dad.

525
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 3: What's more, you look like my dad when my dad

526
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 3: was a teenager.

527
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 2: He's like pretty big best and dad. And I was like,

528
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: oh fuck. And then I was looking around for my mate.

529
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 2: He's disappeared. So I've just sat there with like a

530
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 2: nine month old baby.

531
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Speaker 4: Fuck.

532
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 2: And then he took one look at me, eyeballed me

533
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: like you're fucking going to get it, looked down, saw

534
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 2: Macy and how little she is tiny, put two and

535
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: two together, turned to his kid and was like, don't

536
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: throw blocks. And then he looked at me and he goes,

537
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: just don't use that language around my kids.

538
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh god, did he smack your

539
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 3: bottom as well? He was like and then he turned around.

540
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, absolutely fair, and also good on

541
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: him for knowing that, like his kids are not the

542
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: ones that are always in the right, you know.

543
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was expecting. I was expecting fireworks, but I

544
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 2: was going to stand on the ground. I was going

545
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 2: to let my daughter watching it beat down completely or

546
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: run away, you take her. I should have known, because

547
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: the kid was quite a big kid. It's quite burly.

548
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 3: What should you have known? He's got a be burly dad.

549
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 3: He's going to come after me. The kid was actually

550
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 3: only five.

551
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 2: He like staunched around the corner and I was like,

552
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 2: you know, in like Madagascar, was like a big hippopotamus.

553
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 4: It's like, I like him junk, That's what it was like.

554
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 3: But he was covered in tattoos and I was like,

555
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: oh fuck, I don't know what you're talking about. But

556
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: the visual image was good. Yeah, this is a big guy.

557
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 3: I actually have a park story for you as well.

558
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: So this is a nice little segue.

559
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 1: But it was also a moment where I thought, as

560
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: a parent, I would have to step in, But actually

561
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 1: it was Lola who fucking showed up and I was like,

562
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: thank you for having a backbone. So what do you

563
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: mean she showed up? So she has older cousins. I

564
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: don't know if Matt spoken about them before on the show,

565
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: but he has three.

566
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: George, you are like around I can't okay, George.

567
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so Matt, well we both do. We have

568
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: three nieces and nephews. George who's George who's eight, Merely

569
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: who is seven, and Charlotte is five and then obviously

570
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: like Marley's smack in the middle of that, she's five.

571
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: And then there is Lola, who is the baby years old.

572
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 4: Eight year old is the eldest.

573
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: Eight year old is the eldest. Was not three, she's

574
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 3: almost four. She does four and two weeks. So this

575
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 3: was this was a couple of weeks ago, so she

576
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 3: was still she was still you know, we're still calling

577
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 3: her three. It was pretty Christmas.

578
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: We were down in Mollymook, right and there's this big

579
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: playground in Mollymok.

580
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 3: It's a really cool playground.

581
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: There's so many different sections and it's quite hard to

582
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: keep an eye on five kids running around like fucking

583
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: manic in this playground is it fenced in, fenced in,

584
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: but loads of different little areas where they can play.

585
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 3: And there's this one.

586
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: Area where it's just bushes, but it's been hollowed out

587
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: so the kids have almost made like little tracks through

588
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 1: the bushes so that you can It's a really small

589
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 1: it's not deep or anything, but kids can kind of

590
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: go into the little tunnel in the bushes and then

591
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: they can come out the other side.

592
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 4: The kids made this.

593
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: The kids have made it. Yeah, we got bored in

594
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 3: the real park. In their own park.

595
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: They we had like a little rabbit's warren that goes

596
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: through the bush. Anyway, all my kids had gone in,

597
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: and the cousins as well, so all five of them

598
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 1: were in their little rabbits warren together and they were

599
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 1: playing in there having a great time. After a little while,

600
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: I realized and clocked that there were some other kids

601
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: in there, and I was like, I'm going to go

602
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: on check because that.

603
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 3: I was like, they look like their older kids, and

604
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 3: they were.

605
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: They're like, there were street kids as well.

606
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 3: Seven to nine. I know about you guys. Street kids.

607
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 3: Three kids.

608
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: So I clocked it, and I kind of got a

609
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: bit closer, but I was like, oh nah, they seem

610
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: like they're fine. Walked back over to where Kate was

611
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: standing at sister, and then all of a sudden, I

612
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 1: see all of the kids run out except for Lola. Right,

613
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: So all the kids are run out and they're looking

614
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: a bit upset and they're looking for us, and I

615
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: was like, what's going on here? So anyway, I get

616
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: Marley and I'm like, what's happened?

617
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: Fucking can't find Lola.

618
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: She's nowhere to be seen, and these three little boys

619
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: that were in the tunnel as well, were saying bad

620
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: words and were being naughty and had trapped the kids

621
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: in the tunnel.

622
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 3: They'd been trying to get out for a while, but

623
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 3: they couldn't get out.

624
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: The boys had blocked the end of the tunnel, and

625
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: so then I was.

626
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 3: Like, shit, Lola's still in there.

627
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: So I run over and at the same time, Lola

628
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: comes out out, but just like saunters.

629
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 3: Out like the guy from Agasia.

630
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: And George, who's eight years old, was like, mom, those

631
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: boys in there said we're little bitches.

632
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 3: And we were like, well, like what happened? What did

633
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 3: you say? And he goes I didn't say anything, but

634
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: Lola said, we're not.

635
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 5: Bitches, your bitches, And so all the kids ran out

636
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 5: and Lola stayed in there Chad to have a biff

637
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 5: with them about their.

638
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: Musing bad words. That is very good, and there was

639
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: something in me that just I was just so filled

640
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 3: with pride over that. I was like when a kid,

641
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 3: like when your kids stands up to like another kid.

642
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: I also don't think she knows what it means we're

643
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: not bitches, your bitches.

644
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 3: I could just imagine it.

645
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 4: Once I heard Oscar say to a kid.

646
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 3: Beat It kid.

647
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: And Oscar the sweetest beat it and I was like, yeah,

648
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: how maigs you do.

649
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: Hey?

650
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: Speaking of speaking of your kids and updates, we touched

651
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: on something last week which was Macy's potty training Experiences

652
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: and journey, The Potty Training Journey, The Chronicles of the

653
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: Potty Yeah, just.

654
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 4: A quick update.

655
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 3: She's doing really well.

656
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: She's still pooping in a nappy, but she's done this

657
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: thing where she poops in a nappy, but she she

658
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: only poops it when she gets into bed at night,

659
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: so fucking annoying. And then you've got to go in there,

660
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: like Apel's going to go in there. I'm like in there,

661
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: she's like scalpel. It's like wipe, wipe, but she's like

662
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: got her head torch on.

663
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: So you're doing it as a tag team. Tag team

664
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 3: in that Yeah, okay, I'm actually doing it.

665
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 4: I'm just handing her things. But if I don't hand

666
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 4: have quick enough, she's like, damn it, faster.

667
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: Not to one up you on this situation. But the

668
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: only thing worse than a night shit is a bath shit.

669
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: And Marley went through a phase when she was a

670
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: kid where the warm water just something going and every

671
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: single night for about seven weeks, she pooped in the bar.

672
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 4: Macy's done it. Oscar never done it.

673
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: It was horrifying Macey, Macy and Oscar bath together. And

674
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: when they were a little bit younger, and Macy was

675
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: every now and then doing a pool in the bar.

676
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 4: You'd hear Oscar be.

677
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: Like, oh no, oh, no, it's happening. It's happening again.

678
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: And Ma's like that, and they drained the bar and

679
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: then it all gets stuck in the sink in.

680
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: The I have to fish it out, like vomiting in

681
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: a sink. It's the same.

682
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: I took a photo of Jess is horrified sitting here

683
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: in the Jess is like, what how did I end

684
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: up on this podcast?

685
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 4: It just panic sets in.

686
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: Morley would do it that frequently that we got to

687
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: the stage where we were like, we're not refilling a

688
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: bar three washer. We just pick her up then put

689
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: her underneath the shower so she'd have a bar. We'd

690
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: wash that anytime she'd poo, showered, go on, rinse her off.

691
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 8: Yeah.

692
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: I told this story about Oscar peeing in the bath

693
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: with his sister in there, but he must have been

694
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: a little bit dehydrated, so it went really yellow, so

695
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: we were like, what the fuck dude.

696
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: He was like, you always pee in the bar, and

697
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, I never noticed because you're like hydrated. You

698
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: do what he does? He does every time. I feel

699
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: like all kids do, they do.

700
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 4: They won't tell you.

701
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: All adults do as well.

702
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: What you peeing in the bar?

703
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: I don't have a bath, but you're pee in the shower.

704
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the same drains.

705
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 3: It's just warm. As soon as you get into warm water,

706
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: your body's.

707
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 4: Like it's also like a gateway for pooing in the shower.

708
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: No, you only you do that once and then you

709
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: realize it's really ineffective, and no, never do it.

710
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 4: You only do it when you've got like gastro and

711
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 4: you're like.

712
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 3: Can we move on? Let me get back on. Okay.

713
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: The waffle stump, though, so we can stand on this

714
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: for one second is something that everyone discovers at around

715
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: like seven or eight years old. They try it and

716
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: then they freak the fuck out because it's not going down.

717
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: Shn never do it again.

718
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, look, I've never been a fan.

719
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: Back to Macy, Back to me anyway.

720
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: Macy's waffle snapping her ship, waffle stop I love how

721
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: human race has come up with a name for everything,

722
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: so much so that we have a name for stomping

723
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 2: ship down a drain called the waffle stomp.

724
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: That is fucking elite level name. Who thought of that?

725
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: And it's also so wildly known that.

726
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: It's just word of the year this year in the

727
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: Dictionary waffle stump. Anyway, Macy's it's really the Wii training

728
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: that we're working on.

729
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 4: Wing in the potty of stuff like.

730
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: Great, So she's really good. And we're talking about last

731
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 3: week how when they.

732
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: Get distracted we're playing, they just they forget and they

733
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: think they've got an appy on. And so Oscar and

734
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: Macy were playing hide and seek.

735
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: That's annoying.

736
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: It's a great game to game to get rid of

737
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: one of them at a at a time. And I,

738
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: like everyone, I were doing stuff around the house and

739
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: they're playing, and I was like happy with that, and

740
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: then I'd hear.

741
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: Macy crying and I was like, what the fuck.

742
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: Anyway, she was hiding in the cupboard, but she was

743
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: so committed to the game She's weired herself.

744
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 4: In the carpet.

745
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: Bless her.

746
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: The whole bottom of the puppet Puppet of the cupboard

747
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: was just like a puddle of pears, carpet, floorboards, floorboards, thankfully,

748
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: thank god. But still she was in under the It

749
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: was in the linen cupboard. So she's in underneath the

750
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: bottom of the linen couvers. So I got to get

751
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: down on all fours wiping up pits. And I was

752
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: in there, and I thought to myself, how did he

753
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 2: get to this? How did my life get to this

754
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: where I'm at the bottom of a fucking linen cupboard

755
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: wiping up piss.

756
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: I think, if you looked back in your twenties, you

757
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: probably did worse stuff.

758
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: No, I didn't. You didn't.

759
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: I'll never forget when I worked in a nightclub and

760
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 1: it was like the club had closed. Like I used

761
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: to work in a city nightclub in Woollongong. The club

762
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: had closed. It was like five o'clock in the morning,

763
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: daylight was coming up. We were cleaning, and we found

764
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: a guy passed out in the urine or with urinal cakes.

765
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 1: So I think, if he can reach that point at nineteen,

766
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: Macey's doing fine, and you're okay too.

767
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 4: I've been in the urine.

768
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: If you've ever laid next to a urinal cake, well,

769
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: this is only up from there.

770
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: Sorry, she she did well, I said, to her terms

771
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: and I said, that's commitment to the game. Good on

772
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: commitment to the Hide and Seek game. It also led

773
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: to something that I want to ask you about. Macon

774
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: is like she's an EmPATH. When Oscar hurts himself, the

775
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: first person on scene to make sure he's okay is

776
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: his little sister. That's really love, that really sweet, doesn't

777
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: work both waves, doesn't care no.

778
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 3: So she's weird a self. She's a bit embarrassed.

779
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: I think she was a bit hysterical about her the

780
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: name calling, Like how do you stop your kids from

781
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: name calling? Because that at five years old, four or

782
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: five whatever, there's a lot of poo pooh, a lot

783
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: of bum bum chat like that sort of stuff that

784
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: it turns into like euro bum bump.

785
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 4: But what happened was.

786
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: Is Oscar and Macy they will go you know, butt

787
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: butt head and stuff like that, which is harmless. April

788
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 2: was like to Oscar, can you go and console your sister?

789
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: And he was just not having any of it, and

790
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: he turned around mum and called her a dirty little rat.

791
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: Time out.

792
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah I didn't. I wasn't sitting there gun.

793
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: Where did he even hear that exactly? And it's like,

794
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 3: where have I gone wrong here?

795
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 4: Where?

796
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't have the skill set to counsel

797
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: you on that.

798
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, little little people do. I was cleaning up

799
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 2: the piece at this stage, so I'm in the cupboard

800
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: and I kind of heard it, but I didn't really

801
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: clock what was going on. And then I heard April going,

802
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: what did you call me? And I was like, fuck,

803
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: chance for a fight, I'm out of here.

804
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: Wait, so he called April that Macy April, wow, mummy,

805
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: that that's why, and I was like, what the fuck?

806
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 3: And I don't say that though. Yeah. I staunched down.

807
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: The hallway and he heard me coming and he was

808
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: like shaking in his boots because that's not on. I

809
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: got to his level and I said, you don't call

810
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: people names, especially your mum.

811
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 4: Go to your room.

812
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 2: I'll be there in a sec, and like he usually

813
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 2: it's getting him to go to his room is really hard.

814
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 4: He was like, fuck, I'm in so much trouble. I'm

815
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 4: in so much trouble.

816
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 2: And then obviously big time out like we were set

817
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: to go to the park, all this sort of stuff,

818
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: and I was like you're not going anywhere.

819
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: But I do think with that, like Oscar's only five,

820
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: I actually don't think. And the name calling thing, obviously

821
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: it escalates. Kids know what's naughty. They do it to

822
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: get a rise. I don't think he has any comprehension

823
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: about how mean that is.

824
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

825
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, a dirty little rat to ask where like that is?

826
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: That is vital for a kid to say. But then

827
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: you're like, hold on, Oscar doesn't. He doesn't know. It's

828
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: like the first time he said shit, and she had

829
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: no idea what she was actually saying. But she's she

830
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: using context perfectly, but I was like, hey, you can't

831
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: use that word. And then she was horrified that she

832
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: realized she was using a word that was a naughty.

833
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 4: Rover fucking stuff.

834
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 2: And like Oscar, April was very good at saying fox

835
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: sake all the time. And then and I told that

836
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: story where we're in Fiji and Oscar picked up a

837
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: pull noodle and screamed into it fox sake in front

838
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: of everyone. But he knew that he had called Mama

839
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: name that she didn't like because of the reaction. So

840
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: I've and that I didn't yell. I just was like, hey,

841
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 2: you don't call people names.

842
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 4: Go to your room. I'll be in a second. How

843
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 4: do I How do I do this?

844
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: So I just went in and I was like, hey,

845
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: like reiterated that you don't call people name. I think

846
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: he was trying to say something along the along the

847
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: lines of like, oh, you're a silly girl, you know

848
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: what I mean, like something harmless, but it's come out,

849
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: and I think he was even shocked. But my question is, like,

850
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: how do you get because there's been times where I

851
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: pulled him and his sister up calling each other's names

852
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 2: that have escalated pass you know you bum bum.

853
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: I also think like we have a kind of it's

854
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: not a rule, I guess, but it's the same thing

855
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: that they implement a daycare. So no toilet words, they're

856
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: not like they do still say it, and sometimes they

857
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: say it jokingly and then sometimes it escalates.

858
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: But the thing is is kids don't.

859
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: Have the comprehension around what's escalating, and they don't have

860
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: the self control to realize that they're escalating. But if

861
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: toilet words are just off the table, even if it's

862
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: done in a funny way, and don't get me wrong,

863
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: they don't abide by it all the time.

864
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 3: It's a constant battle.

865
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: But as soon as we're hearing the bum bum you're

866
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: a pooh, you're a wee chat, which is just like

867
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: they love it.

868
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: It's so funny to them.

869
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 4: It's like crack.

870
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: It's like it's off the table, Like, no, we don't

871
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: use toilet words in this house.

872
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: That's saying that that's the worst for it.

873
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: It's tricky because Matt walks around the house farting all

874
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: the time, making jokes about farting.

875
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: So I'm like, that's also a toilet word. Mathew've done so,

876
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 3: I know, but it's tricky. It's tricky. You kind of

877
00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: lean into the funny parts.

878
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: Kids don't quite get where that line is, and I

879
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: guess like it's our job to try and teach them,

880
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 1: but also we are not perfect.

881
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 3: That's where I was at.

882
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: I was kind of like in my head, I was like,

883
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: how do I approach this with him to explain where

884
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: the line is? And then I was like, I'm just

885
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: gonna have to go with a blanket rule. We don't

886
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: call people names, and like stick with that even if

887
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: your friends are doing it or whatever.

888
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 4: It's just like fuck.

889
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: No, I think if I mean, And like I said,

890
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 1: I don't have the answers to this stuff either. We're

891
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: all just feeling our way through this parenting thing. But

892
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: I would say that you handled that perfectly. You didn't yell,

893
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: you didn't get angry. There was like a stop down

894
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: of like, hey, that's not appropriate, go to your room

895
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: and I will come. That's obviously like frightening for a

896
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: kid because you're like, what's going to happen? But then

897
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: the repercussions that is simply like you don't get to

898
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: have that thing that you really wanted to have. Now

899
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: we're not going to go to the park, And I

900
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: think having some sort of consequence that's parallel to the action.

901
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: Kids get that they're smarter than we give him credit for.

902
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: They understand. It's not to say that they're never going

903
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: to do it again. He will because he knows it

904
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: gets a big reaction for you, Right, he's gonna do

905
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: something else. But I think that it's more so like

906
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: the consistency of it, because if you're okay with one

907
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: name and one thing else over here, that's like a

908
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: confusing message.

909
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: Whereas like now that you've said.

910
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: Okay, we don't call names and then you have to

911
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: implement that consistently.

912
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: But you've got to do it right and and like because.

913
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: I know, like, look, I thought the toilet humor was harmless.

914
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny.

915
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 2: And also when they're a little bit stroppy, I can

916
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: be I can be like I don't know, who's a

917
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: bum bum head like, and you'll get like a little

918
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: giggle out of them, and they love that shit. But

919
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: then now I'm like, fuck, that's actually bad. Yeah, because

920
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: it can escalate into what that was.

921
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: I think you've hit the nail on the head. And

922
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: also I think so many parents do it. Like we

923
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: used to lean into that humor as well with the

924
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: kids heaves, you know, yeah, and she should always get

925
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: a gigl but you know, like you know where the

926
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: line is and they don't because they're five or four,

927
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: you know, And.

928
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 3: So it's really tricky all like they're making joke. Oh god.

929
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: The thing that we struggle with is like they'll make

930
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: jokes about it, but then we're in the bath. You've

931
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: got Lola trying to like smack Maley on the barm

932
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, come on, guys, private, Like it's just

933
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: like where's the line, And you're all weird little kids.

934
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: Just stop touch showing gross. Everyone stopped.

935
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: I walked into the bathroo the day and Macey was

936
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: laying on top of Oscar's like face down and she's

937
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: laying on his back, and I was like.

938
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 9: This isn't a gated community, not with your sister.

939
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 3: Anyway. I was like, he's been watching that Mormon family show. Yeah,

940
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: he's like the Mormons do. I don't think they do.

941
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 3: You probably have Mormon listeners who are gonna fucking hate that.

942
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: Take it off of Jess, No, I leave it in.

943
00:40:54,280 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 2: Maybe Okay, they're not TASMANI isn't sorry, May I take

944
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: that back?

945
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: It's like at least one percent of your listenership right there, fifteen.

946
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 4: But they're both brothers and sisters and lovers.

947
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: Laura. This question from a listener, and I HAVEVID listener.

948
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: By the name of she Ann h Shanne. I think

949
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 2: I've pronounced that correctly. If not, I am sorry.

950
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 4: Channe.

951
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: She says, how do I speak to my son about

952
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 2: his grandma who's currently going through breast cancer and has

953
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: not long started chemo. She has shaved her head and

954
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: it freaked him out. And now every time I ask

955
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 2: if he wants to go and see her. He says

956
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: that he's scared.

957
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: Oh that's so hard.

958
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 8: Pull.

959
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: I mean hard in all aspects. I'm so sorry that

960
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: you're going through that as part of your family, but.

961
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: Also hard because.

962
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: This is like a big and scary time for him

963
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: as well, because he doesn't comprehend it right, It doesn't

964
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 1: know what's going on. We recently went through something pretty

965
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: similar my stepdad. He unfortunately, he had a prostate cancer

966
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: and he passed away last year. We spent a lot

967
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: of time with Neil with the girls leading up to

968
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: him going into palliative care. So the girls went into

969
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: hospital and saw him and spent heaps of time with him.

970
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: And there came a point in his palliative care time

971
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: where he stopped looking like himself. He lost so much

972
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: weight because of the cancer, because of the treatment. Also,

973
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: he had chemo years prior, so we lost his hair

974
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: during that. We just kept this ongoing conversation around that

975
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: Far is sick and that Far is not well at

976
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: the moment, and that you know that sometimes when you're sick,

977
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: you don't look the same as what you look like

978
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: when you're healthy. And for us, I think because we

979
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: kept the because we saw him so frequently, it wasn't

980
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: shocking to the girls what was going on, and it

981
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: wasn't shocking to them. I think that they really really

982
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: responded well to that. We talked about him all the

983
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: time in front of them. We explained a lot of

984
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: what was going on. Death is a whole other thing

985
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: to try and comprehend and have conversations about. And I'm

986
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: in no way am I implying that that your mom is,

987
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: you know, in a state where she's like that sick

988
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: she you know, she might be going through one round

989
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: of treatment and she'll be amazing afterwards. But I think

990
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: it's okay to have the conversations around when people are

991
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: not well. Sometimes they look a little bit different, but

992
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: they're still the same person on the inside. But I

993
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: think you have to continue having as much exposure with

994
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: your mom and him as possible, and even if that

995
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: means that for a couple of times he's a little

996
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: bit timid and isn't exactly the same around Nana, I

997
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: think I don't worry about and talk to your mum

998
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: about it obviously, so she knows, so that way she's

999
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: also aware that maybe he might not be exactly the

1000
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: same for the first couple of visits, and then kids

1001
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: they get it. They'll know that Nana will speak in

1002
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: the same way, she'll do something in the same way,

1003
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: and he'll be like, Oh, that's my nana.

1004
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 3: She just doesn't have any hair at the moment.

1005
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: They'll have that thing that bonds them in their little

1006
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: relationship that everyone every grandparent has with their grand absolute

1007
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 2: that he'll he'll get triggered and be like, you're still

1008
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: the same person.

1009
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: Also, I kind of like in it, I mean, a

1010
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: comparative situation that's not as sad. Is, like when a

1011
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: dad shaves off their beard for the first time. I'll

1012
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: never forget when when Matt he had a mustache for

1013
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: a really long time and then he shaved it off.

1014
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: Marley was freaked the fuck out, like she genuinely was.

1015
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: She was like, WHOA, I don't know who that guy is,

1016
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: but I don't want him to be here. But they

1017
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: are just with exposure in very quick time.

1018
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: And I did the same thing when I shaved my

1019
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 2: ecause every now and then I just shaved my head completely.

1020
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 2: And it's like they all came home from Kenny, who's

1021
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: this guy at our house? And it's like they got

1022
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: used to it really really quick, like it's sort of

1023
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 2: likens to a situation that I had.

1024
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 3: And look at this, this is not as obviously.

1025
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 2: As Comparativemo and K. It's not as comparative Camo and cancer.

1026
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: And look, obviously wish you and your family are the best.

1027
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,479
Speaker 2: But I know my grandmother's got false teeth.

1028
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 4: Here's one for you.

1029
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: So the kids, yeah, imatch it out horrifying.

1030
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: She popped it out as a joke and then for

1031
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 2: months trying to get them back to her house.

1032
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 4: I was like, because she's.

1033
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: Been doing it since I was a kid, so I'm

1034
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: so used to it she does as a joke. She

1035
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: goes no, like it's she's a joke star, that's what

1036
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: she does. And they didn't quite respond with their like, ah,

1037
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: the lollly teeth all every lie under the sun, but

1038
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: like it took them a while to regain not trust,

1039
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: but regain the love for her in a way because.

1040
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 3: They were freaked out by that. I was scared.

1041
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: They don't quite understand that, Okay, well Nan lost her

1042
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: teeth a long time ago.

1043
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 4: She ate to me lollies.

1044
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: The continuation of the conversation probably helps to wrap their

1045
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: head around it much better than just being like they're

1046
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: sick and they're like, well, I don't get it. So

1047
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: does everyone who's sick look like that?

1048
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: And also I think kids comprehend way more than you

1049
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: give them credit for. So when Neil was going through chemo,

1050
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 1: we explained that Neil has to go to the hospital.

1051
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: Really we didn't talk about cancer. I think that was

1052
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: a little bit big mallards only five. But we talked

1053
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: about the fact that he was really, really sick, and

1054
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: then we introduced the concept of him going up to

1055
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: the stars and how one day he's not gonna be

1056
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 1: here anymore. And we did that in such a way

1057
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: that I think because it was this continuous, frequent conversation,

1058
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,479
Speaker 1: nothing was a surprise, and it was done in little

1059
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: bits in this instance which you know, it's it's she's

1060
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: lost her hair and it's chemo treatment. I think it's

1061
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: okay to have the conversations, but also FaceTime your mom.

1062
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: Make sure that he's seeing her as much as possible.

1063
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: Did you see it might not be feasible to travel

1064
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: to see her all the time. Maybe you guys don't

1065
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: live locally, but make sure you're face timing. And I

1066
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: don't mean like Okay, we're gonna now FaceTime Nana and

1067
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna sit here and you're gonna talk to her.

1068
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: I mean, you're on the phone to Nana. You're having

1069
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 3: your normal.

1070
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: Great conversation would You're chatting about everything, and then you're

1071
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: also like, hey, little.

1072
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: Jimmy, Nana's on the phone.

1073
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: And then and you know, maybe it's like a little

1074
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: bit at first, and then the more that you do

1075
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: that over a very short period of time, I have

1076
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: no doubt that he will be like like, oh, it's

1077
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: just Nan. You know, she's just sick and she looks

1078
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: a bit different now. But I think the kids respond

1079
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: to how we feel about something. So if you're if

1080
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: this has been a really big thing for you as well,

1081
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: it's going to feel even bigger to him. You know,

1082
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: it's they pick up on that stuff. Well, seid massively.

1083
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: I think, I think that's good. I mean I haven't

1084
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: had to face it yet, so I think.

1085
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: Like if I do, oh, actually, yeah, well Dad had

1086
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 2: a triple bypass last year. I'm trying to explain that

1087
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: my son wanted to see Dad in hospital, and I

1088
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: was like honest with him, and I.

1089
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 4: Was like, look, he is really sick.

1090
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: At the moment, I didn't want Oscar to see him

1091
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: like that, because in Oscar's eyes, my dad's his hero.

1092
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: You know, we FaceTime when he was feeling better and

1093
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 2: stuff like that, but just kept the conversation going that

1094
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: he was sick and he's getting.

1095
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: There some time. Yeah, it's so hard. I don't think.

1096
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that there needs to be more

1097
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: resources for parents to navigate these types of conversations with

1098
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: little humans because it's so heart and you don't want

1099
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: to scare them, You don't want to give them more

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Speaker 1: than what they can comprehend.

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Speaker 3: But I think that.

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Speaker 1: Kids are way more they can process more than what

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Speaker 1: I think we give them credit for. And I think

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Speaker 1: we don't have to shield them from everything, obviously from

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Speaker 1: the big stuff, but I do think that the more

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Speaker 1: that you talk about some things around them that's age appropriate,

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Speaker 1: it helps them process and not feel so isolated from

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Speaker 1: the big things that the adults are experiencing in the house.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And also for like chance mum, like the last thing

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Speaker 2: that she would want is to see your grandson and

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Speaker 2: the grands be soide totally. Can you imagine how heartbreaking.

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Speaker 4: That would be?

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Speaker 2: So I think for both sides of it, if you

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Speaker 2: can keep it as normal in the conversations as open

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Speaker 2: as possible, what's happening?

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Speaker 1: And another thing to try as well is that go

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Speaker 1: online and show him photos of women who don't have hair,

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Speaker 1: because that's like it's when you think about it, a

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Speaker 1: five year old probably hasn't seen very many women who

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Speaker 1: have a shaved head at all.

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Speaker 4: You show the video of Jada Smith.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the more that kids see that something

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Speaker 1: is actually normal, it's just not their normal because they've

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Speaker 1: never been exposed to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they've never seen it before. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's like as adults, as we see something like that

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Speaker 2: we've never seen before, we're like, what the.

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Speaker 4: Fuck is that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Totally can imagine like in their world, how you know,

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Speaker 2: like they really like the biggest things to them are

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Speaker 2: their families, the mom and their dad, their sister or brother,

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Speaker 2: if they have the kids that they interact with at kindie, that's.

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Speaker 3: Really their whole world. Throw a bald lady in there.

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Speaker 2: Imagine I cannot imagine them going, oh okay, they were like,

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Speaker 2: what what's happened?

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Speaker 3: Now? You never seen a woman with no hair? Well?

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Speaker 1: Okay before before we say like, Lee, we do want

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Speaker 1: to say we're thinking of you and thinking of your

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Speaker 1: family and hope that your mum makes a very speedy recovery.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm hoping that recovery, and of course that your

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Speaker 2: son and her can have a long, fruitful relationship.

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Speaker 1: He'll be fine, he will be fine. Well, guys, I

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Speaker 1: think that's it from us.

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Speaker 2: That is, if you've enjoyed this episode, please give us

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Speaker 2: a review five stars, little comment if you hated it.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to hear about it because I'm not

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Speaker 3: here for long, so please don't tell.

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Speaker 2: Me any Any reviews we get well over the next

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks will be directed at Laura.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, if you know you're doing a great job, Laura,

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Speaker 9: are you doing a great doing my best?

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Speaker 4: Matt's going to come back and be like, where's my podcast?

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Speaker 2: One doting dad and one doting mum.

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Speaker 1: I am pushing for a brand change and a rename,

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Speaker 1: and then Matt's on life.

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Speaker 3: I cut my work. Could be a good little little

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Speaker 3: change up.

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Speaker 2: Yes, like I said, if you enjoy this episode, please

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Speaker 2: the review five stars if possible, if not, whatever, and

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Speaker 2: join us on socials, Instagram, two doting dads.

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Speaker 3: The Facebook as I'm calling it now, is also two

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Speaker 3: Dads join the group. Two Doting Dads.

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Speaker 2: We might have some T shirts coming, Okay, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean we don't know how many more weeks we have.

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Speaker 1: Laura, we might have it for one more week if

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Speaker 1: she lets us your next week it's April.

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Speaker 3: She's going to be on the show. Now, I think

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Speaker 3: she is.

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Speaker 8: She is.

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Speaker 1: She promised me happen. Matt promised me that I was

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Speaker 1: during two weeks and April was doing. I want to

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Speaker 1: do another week with me, I do, I do, but

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Speaker 1: after April does one, I'll come val.

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Speaker 3: I've just stuck up.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, guys, thanks for having me back on another episode.

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Speaker 6: See bye, Hello, Hello, hell yeah, helloo.

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Speaker 3: I have been talking since seven am.

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Speaker 7: The This Morning Two Doting Dad's podcast acknowledges the traditional

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Speaker 7: custodians of country throughout Australia and the connections to land,

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Speaker 7: see and community.

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Speaker 2: We pay our respects to their elders past and present

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Speaker 2: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and torrestraight Onlander

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