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Speaker 1: Joining us in the studio this morning. We have got

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Speaker 1: the COLP Minister Josh Burgoyne.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Josh.

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Speaker 3: Morning, Katy. Had so much fun last week.

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Speaker 2: I've come back for more, back again. I love it,

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Speaker 2: love it.

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Speaker 1: And then we've got the Deputy Opposition Leader Duran Young,

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Duran.

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Speaker 4: Good morning Katie, and good morning to all the listeners

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Speaker 4: out there.

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Speaker 1: And we've got my producer Kathleen Gazola in the studio

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Cats.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what all eyes on this cyclone norell

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Speaker 1: this morning. She has made landfall as far as I

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Speaker 1: can see, just Nick Cohen there in Far North Queensland.

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Speaker 1: And this cyclone's fluctuated between being a category five and

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Speaker 1: a category four, but was four as I.

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Speaker 2: Understand when it struck land.

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Speaker 1: Now what happens next, I guess is what we're all

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Speaker 1: keeping a really close eye on, right like thoughts with

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Speaker 1: the people of Far North Queensland. Without a doubt, we

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Speaker 1: know all too well what it can be like when

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Speaker 1: a cyclone strikes in your area. But for us here

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Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory to say we have corp dirsh

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Speaker 1: in recent months is an understatement I mean kicking off

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Speaker 1: with Cyclone Feena, and it has just been a wild

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Speaker 1: wet season and now watching Norell as she crosses the

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Speaker 1: coast and heads to the Gulf of Carpenteria, it's been incredible.

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Speaker 3: Katie. We're now looking at our seventh significant event for

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Speaker 3: the wet season, and absolutely you've given that update. Norelli's

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Speaker 3: forecast to move over the Cape York Peninsula as a

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Speaker 3: tropical cyclone during Friday while weakening. We'll then see it

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Speaker 3: moving too the Gulf of Carpentery's and expected to strengthen

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Speaker 3: again to a severe tropical cyclone before impacting the eastern

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Speaker 3: Northern Territory from late Sunday. So we're expecting to see

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Speaker 3: those gales between Port MacArthur and nullam Boy from Saturday

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Speaker 3: afternoon as Noel approaches, and then extend inland through to

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Speaker 3: nook Her on Saturday night early Sunday morning, with very

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Speaker 3: destructive winds are possible near the center of the cyclone.

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Speaker 3: So again it's really important that everyone gets their cyclone

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Speaker 3: kits ready. Everyone knows I need three days of food

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Speaker 3: and water, they need their medicine radio to keep up

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Speaker 3: to date, and I think that's a really clear message here.

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Speaker 3: Now we know this is coming, we know roughly where

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Speaker 3: it's going to be, so get prepared.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, everybody making sure that you are prepared. I mean,

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Speaker 1: at the moment, if you look at windy dot com,

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Speaker 1: it's saying that it has hit around about four and

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Speaker 1: now it's moving across from what I can see at

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Speaker 1: this point in time really just there right near Cohen

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Speaker 1: the moment. That is expected as you've spoken about there

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Speaker 1: that path that it's going to take and come across

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Speaker 1: to the northern territory, I mean, Duran. The issue here

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Speaker 1: read like literally daily river is still under floodwaters. Catherine

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Speaker 1: from number one that have been now evacuated here to Darwin.

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Speaker 1: It is like it's a moving puzzle and it's a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, Katie. And we've seen such widespread weather

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Speaker 4: this wet season, and as you mentioned, and as as

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Speaker 4: Josh just mentioned, the cyclone tracking from Queensland across towards

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Speaker 4: Brude Island. And my understanding is that a helicopter is

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Speaker 4: currently on its way to Numbua right now, the Hercules

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Speaker 4: the Hall, their facility there. But yeah, it's quite concerning

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Speaker 4: we've seen many homes that were impacted down there, including

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is it and it's a real sort of

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a real juggle as well. At this

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Speaker 1: At this point in time, we've got evacuees at Fosky Pavilion.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's been relentless. As Josh said, the

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Speaker 5: I can't remember a time that there's been this many

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Speaker 5: Emergency services who obviously just have to keep getting up

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Speaker 1: And the more that time goes on, and you know,

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Speaker 2: We were quite surprised to hear this gist, did I

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Speaker 5: That was from Margaret who's the Daydaily River Association, Yeah association. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And that's right. Like I was out there last week

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Speaker 3: Ye, it's more than that, it's right across the territory.

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Speaker 3: And I've heard this with pastoralists as well, who aren't

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Speaker 3: the messages I've been receiving, Katie. So we're hearing from

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Speaker 3: the direct path of that cyclone. And also you touched

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Speaker 3: it doesn't pose I guess, any impact on the impact

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Speaker 1: Now just on look, I know it's still such early days,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it's been a huge impact right across the teria.

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Speaker 3: that is going to be directly going to fix up

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Speaker 3: those roads in remote areas that we've seen impacted. So again,

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Speaker 3: If you're out in Daily, Duran's just mentioned a number

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Speaker 3: So yes, some might see I mean one hundred million dollar.

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Speaker 1: I think spot on. And also, you know, sadly I

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Speaker 3: I think that's it, Katie. By putting that one hundred

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Speaker 2: Well, look, Kathleen's doing her bit.

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Speaker 1: Yes, spot on, And look somebody else has just messaged

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Speaker 2: Even out at Daily River. You know, this has been

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Speaker 3: right across the board we've seen with the health care system.

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Speaker 3: So absolutely, for your listeners, it's an operational decision by

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Speaker 3: NT Health seeat to call that code yellow, and it's

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Speaker 3: had to happen due to the huge amounts of people

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Speaker 3: we have that aren't able to be discharged to go

441
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Speaker 3: back home because of the rain events and the emergency

442
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Speaker 3: situations we're seeing unfold right across the NT.

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Speaker 1: Well. It's tough going, right because what do we meant

444
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Speaker 1: to do now at this point in time. I mean,

445
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Speaker 1: NT Health doing their best to try to juggle things,

446
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Speaker 1: but we've got you know, you've got an influx of

447
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Speaker 1: people right across in Northern Territory that are moving around

448
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Speaker 1: as they need to because you know, where they usually

449
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Speaker 1: live is underwater. And in some cases, we've got phenomenal

450
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Speaker 1: health care clinics out in different locations that ordinarily would

451
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Speaker 1: care for patients as well in the first instance, but

452
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Speaker 1: when they're underwater or when they're battling as well, there's

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Speaker 1: not a lot that pe can be done, really.

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Speaker 5: And Chris that effectively, these code yellows could be in

455
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Speaker 5: place for longer than usual. You know, you usually see

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Speaker 5: them for a few days so that they can deal

457
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Speaker 5: with the overcapacity issues. But given what we're seeing, he

458
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Speaker 5: sort of warned that, yeah, things could continue on like

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Speaker 5: this for a while just to be able to manage

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Speaker 5: the situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, it's tough. It's tough for all our health workers

463
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Speaker 4: out there than having to deal with the situation right

464
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Speaker 4: now and the pressures that we're seeing on our hospitals

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Speaker 4: right across the Northern Territory from Catherine down, Alice Springs,

466
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Speaker 4: all the way up to Darwin. But the extra pressures

467
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Speaker 4: that that brings obviously with a lot more people being

468
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Speaker 4: displaced in Darwin and then needing that health assistance as well.

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Speaker 4: Usually people just go visit their local clinic. Now, you know,

470
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Speaker 4: we've got those extra pressures in here, so you know,

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Speaker 4: I do just hope that our health workers are really

472
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Speaker 4: being supported through this. And you know, I just heard

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Speaker 4: Josh talk about the pressures of people down in our springs,

474
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Speaker 4: for example, coming in to the hospital but not being

475
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Speaker 4: able to get home. One practical solution to that is

476
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Speaker 4: when we see the travel assistance for patients coming into

477
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Speaker 4: the hospital. I've got constituents that come in for those appointments,

478
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Speaker 4: But then how do we actually get people back home

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Speaker 4: to take those pressures off. And that's a practical measure

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Speaker 4: that the government could look at that with that assistant

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Speaker 4: patient travel, that we also ensure that we're able to

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Speaker 4: get people home.

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Speaker 1: Happen currently, Like if someone comes in for an appointment,

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Speaker 1: do they also get the patient travel back home?

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Speaker 2: I mean if their area is not flooded, of course.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, it's something that the government would need to answer.

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Speaker 4: But I've had like people message me from out in

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Speaker 4: the Thummer region from homelands for example, that have come

489
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Speaker 4: in and then they're stuck in town. So it's something

490
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Speaker 4: that could be of assistance to actually ensure that people

491
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Speaker 4: are to get home because people do just want to

492
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Speaker 4: get home and the roads are cut off so they

493
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Speaker 4: can't just drive out tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the hard part of it.

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Speaker 3: There's a range of return to return to country, return

496
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Speaker 3: to community programs where we support people, and right now

497
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Speaker 3: the biggest issue is we literally cannot get buses out

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Speaker 3: of some of those roads. It is a difficult situation

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Speaker 3: that health are dealing with, and I really just want

500
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Speaker 3: to again say thank you to everyone that is working

501
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Speaker 3: around the clock to deal with the increased pressures at

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Speaker 3: the moment.

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Speaker 1: Look, it does certainly push back, I would suspect as well,

504
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Speaker 1: all the flooding and what we've seen across the top

505
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Speaker 1: end at the moment, when it comes to the recovery

506
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Speaker 1: that's going to be required, it pushes back. I would

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Speaker 1: assume the discussions that we've been having for months now

508
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Speaker 1: about the need for a new tertiory hospital and you know,

509
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Speaker 1: really sort of trying to push you know, the federal

510
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Speaker 1: government to look into that funding and I know that

511
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Speaker 1: NT Health are doing some of that groundwork and have.

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Speaker 2: Been for a little while.

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Speaker 1: But you do just think to yourself now the cost

514
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Speaker 1: that it is going to take to repair the Northern

515
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Speaker 1: Territory in so many ways following on from the flood.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how we're going to go in terms

517
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Speaker 1: of pushing harder for a new Tertiory hospital.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's right.

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Speaker 5: I mean we're going to see really big budget constraints

520
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Speaker 5: on the Northern Territory, even more so because these are

521
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Speaker 5: issues that weren't obviously factored in, especially to the colp's

522
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Speaker 5: policy agenda, and then saying with the federal government, they're

523
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Speaker 5: going to obviously be dealing with their own issues around

524
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Speaker 5: inflation and cost of living in the fuel situation, while

525
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Speaker 5: having the Northern Territory knock on the door and probably

526
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Speaker 5: far North Queensland to post cyclone aurel ripping through those

527
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Speaker 5: communities there. So yeah, you're really not going to see

528
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Speaker 5: too much extra new delivery I suppose on those things

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Speaker 5: because we will have to rebuild.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be tough. It is going to

531
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Speaker 1: be tough. Indeed, Hey, we'll take a really quick break

532
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Speaker 1: when we come back. I want to talk more about

533
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Speaker 1: this protected industrial action. It is going to be proceeding

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Speaker 1: today at the Alla Springs Correctional Facilities, despite the Corrections

535
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Speaker 1: Commissioner tried to stop it at the last minute yesterday.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix one O four nine's three sixty.

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Speaker 2: It is the week that was.

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Speaker 1: If you've just joined us, we'll in the studio this morning.

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Speaker 1: Kathleen Gazola, Duran Young and Josh Burgoyne. Now there's been

540
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Speaker 1: a lot to discuss, but we know that today protected

541
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Speaker 1: industrial action he is proceeding at the Alice Springs Correctional

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Speaker 1: Facilities following a decision of the Fair Work Commission this

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Speaker 1: morning to dismiss an application to stop the action. Now,

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Speaker 1: the industrial action, as we know it impacts the Alice

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Speaker 1: Springs Correctional Center, the Alice Springs Women's Prison, and the

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Speaker 1: Alice Springs Reintegration Facility. The Corrections Commissioner Matthew Varley said

547
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Speaker 1: the application was brought to the Fair Work Commission because

548
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Speaker 1: of serious concerns about the safety and security impacts of

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Speaker 1: this twelve hour withdrawal of custodial officers. He said, I

550
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Speaker 1: respect the lawful right of the United Workers union and

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Speaker 1: its members to take protected industrial action, but he said

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Speaker 1: this strike action is unsafe. He has a statutory responsibility

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Speaker 1: to protect the safety of our staff, the welfare of prisoners,

554
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Speaker 1: and security and good order of our prisoners, and it

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Speaker 1: was because of those responsibility that he sought the Fair

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Speaker 1: Work Commission's intervention. Now, I said it last week and

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Speaker 1: I'll say it again. I just don't think that it's

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Speaker 1: the right timing. But nonetheless it is going to be happening.

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Speaker 1: I don't have an issue at all with people taking

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Speaker 1: protected industrial action and standing up for what they believe

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Speaker 1: in when it comes to their job. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll be really blunt about it. I think that our

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Speaker 1: correctional officers have one of the hardest jobs in the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory in terms of the work that they do.

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Speaker 1: But when we've got the rest of the Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: that is literally staring down the barrel of an emergency

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Speaker 1: right now, I just don't know that it was the

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Speaker 1: right timing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, O, Katie, Look, let's be really clear about what's happening. Now.

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Speaker 3: The strike in Ella Springs will take place, the prison

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Speaker 3: will be locked down, and I really just want to

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Speaker 3: thank all the chief prison officers, the senior custodian, and

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Speaker 3: all the other people that will essentially be keeping the

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Speaker 3: prison I guess lockdown and safe for everyone that's there.

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Speaker 3: But it's also important to understand what this m means

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Speaker 3: for the greater community of Ella Springs. All the work

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Speaker 3: parties that usually go out help, whether it be with

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Speaker 3: the cleanup efforts, help cut little old ladies lawns that

579
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Speaker 3: won't be happening today as a result. So absolutely we're

580
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Speaker 3: still going through a lot of recovery phases even in

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Speaker 3: our springs. This protected industrial action. Look, it's able to happen,

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Speaker 3: but let's be realistic here. Yeah, the timing isn't great,

583
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Speaker 3: but hey, maybe that's part of the plan of the

584
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Speaker 3: union is trying to cause as much disruption as possible.

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Speaker 3: We've put what we believe is a fair offer on

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Speaker 3: the table with that three percent. It's what our government

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Speaker 3: can afford after eight years of labor. We've got ten

588
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Speaker 3: twelve billion dollars a debt. That's what we've put forward.

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Speaker 3: We really acknowledged the hard work of those correctional offices.

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Speaker 3: I've got good friends at the correctional officers at work

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Speaker 3: at that prison down at Alice and I guess this

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Speaker 3: will go through a process as we've gone through with

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Speaker 3: lots of other processes across the public service, and we'll

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Speaker 3: see how it all plays out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, obviously we're still waiting for the decision of

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Speaker 4: the Fair Work Commission.

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Speaker 2: I think it's come through. I think allowed it, it's

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Speaker 2: gone through.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But you know, we did ask Jared Maylee a

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Speaker 4: question in regards to this protest down our other springs,

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Speaker 4: and you know, I welcome Jared Maylee's response to this.

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Speaker 4: He actually said on the record in Parliament that he

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Speaker 4: saw ports the right for people to be able to protest.

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Speaker 4: So there's a bit of contradiction going on between Josh

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Speaker 4: right now and his own minister on the record. You know,

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Speaker 4: our correction officers are working incredibly hard. We've seen the

607
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Speaker 4: tough on crime agenda by the c LP government which

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Speaker 4: is putting extra strain and pressures on our prison system.

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Speaker 4: So our correction officers deserve the same pay and the

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Speaker 4: same EBA agreements that our police officers have received because

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Speaker 4: they are under the under the pump right now. And

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Speaker 4: you know, as Jared Mayley said yesterday, he said that

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Speaker 4: he agrees that people have the right to protest.

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Speaker 2: I didn't hear it.

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Speaker 1: But did he say that and then follow it up

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Speaker 1: with maybe not at this time or was it.

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Speaker 3: All in that it's all it's all well and good

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Speaker 3: to say around the year. We support absolutely union's right

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Speaker 3: to take industrial action. What we're saying right now is

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Speaker 3: that we're going through recovery phases. We've had floods all

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Speaker 3: over the territory. Maybe now isn't the right time.

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Speaker 4: Said that yesterday, though they've taken it to the pay.

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Speaker 3: Of work, it's been approved. It's going to happen. It's

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Speaker 3: that simple. It's going to happen. And I've just outlined

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Speaker 3: what isn't going to be happening now as a result

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Speaker 3: of that.

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Speaker 4: Do you agree with your minister Jared Mailey with what

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Speaker 4: he said yesterday?

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Speaker 3: We agree people. We agree people have the right. Is

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Speaker 3: the timing now the right time? Probably not.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Jared Marley talked about the time. He

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Speaker 4: talked about it.

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Speaker 1: It is with us on the show yesterday, But I

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Speaker 1: didn't a bit. I didn't listen to Question Time yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I missed it. Unfortunately, otherwise I might have heard Kathleen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we spoke about it fairly extensively throughout this week.

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Speaker 1: We had the Corrections Commissioner on the show earlier in

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Speaker 1: the week. He'd also pointed to the fact that we've

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Speaker 1: got you know, prisoners and also staff heading down to Catherine.

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Speaker 1: They went there on Monday. I think it was to

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Speaker 1: help out with that clean up, so they're pretty busy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, as you said, this is worker's rights

643
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Speaker 5: to be able to do this, but yeah, I personally

644
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Speaker 5: think the timing is probably a bit off, and you know,

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Speaker 5: to be able to get that extra public support to

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Speaker 5: back your move to do this, I don't think there

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Speaker 5: would be a lot of people out there that would

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Speaker 5: do that as well, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Like everyone is kind of watching and with baited breath

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Speaker 5: as to what's happening with the next phase that's going

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Speaker 5: to come through after CYCLEO and Narel. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 5: sort of like does it pass the pub test of

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Speaker 5: this time?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that it does.

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Speaker 1: And like I say, usually for me, I'm like, I

656
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Speaker 1: absolutely support workers' rights to protest, and I still do

657
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Speaker 1: you know, at this point in time, I think that

658
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Speaker 1: you know, everybody deserves that right to stand up for

659
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Speaker 1: what they believe in. But it's just it's a point

660
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Speaker 1: in time where I think you're hard pressed to get

661
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Speaker 1: the broader public to sort of come along on that

662
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Speaker 1: journey for you. When they're worried about cleaning their houses

663
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Speaker 1: out after floods have gone through. You know, they're worried

664
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Speaker 1: about their house being underwater. And I know it's a

665
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Speaker 1: bit of a different situation in Alice Springs at this

666
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Speaker 1: point in time, but we're talking about, you know, the workers'

667
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Speaker 1: rights across the board. I know that it's Alice Springs

668
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Speaker 1: where they're striking, but you are talking about correctional offices

669
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Speaker 1: right across the Northern Territory. So I just don't know

670
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Speaker 1: that territorians will be, you know, jumping on the bandwagon

671
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Speaker 1: in terms of supporting. But I could be wrong, and

672
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Speaker 1: I'm always happy to be proven wrong. But look, we're

673
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Speaker 1: going to take a quick break, and I've left a

674
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Speaker 1: bit of time for the final break because i want

675
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Speaker 1: to talk about something that has been firing everybody in

676
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Speaker 1: the Northern.

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Speaker 2: Territory up that is our fuel prices.

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Speaker 1: So more on that in just a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 1: If you've just joined us in the studio this morning,

680
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Speaker 1: we've got Josh Bergo and Duran Young and Kathleen Gazola.

681
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Speaker 1: Now all eyes have been on petrol prices and they

682
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Speaker 1: have been really for some time. But what we know

683
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Speaker 1: is that with these petrol prices, we'll drivers fed up

684
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Speaker 1: with massive price spikes. That the bows are being warned

685
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Speaker 1: not to expect a wave of fuel company prosecutions over

686
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Speaker 1: allegations of price gouging. The Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi earlier

687
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Speaker 1: this week announcing Anthea Harris, the former head of the

688
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Speaker 1: Australian Energy Regulator, is going to be appointed as the

689
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Speaker 1: federal Government's Fuel Supplied Task Force Coordinator. So Mister Albenezi

690
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: also warned that fuel retailers the Australian Competition and Consumer

691
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Speaker 1: Commission warn them that they will take action against service

692
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Speaker 1: stations that are overcharging. Now, in what was described as

693
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Speaker 1: an unusual step, the a Triple C announce said it's

694
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Speaker 1: going to be investigating those allegations of anti competitive conduct

695
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Speaker 1: by major fuel suppliers in regional and rural Australia. Now,

696
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Speaker 1: I think that this is an important thing to do,

697
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Speaker 1: but a lot of people sort of going, well, hang on,

698
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Speaker 1: they feel like it feels like they're.

699
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Speaker 2: A bit of a toothless tiger.

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Speaker 1: Let me just take you through some of the petrol

701
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Speaker 1: prices today, and I know that our listeners love to

702
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Speaker 1: hear the terminal gate price in Darwin today for the diesel,

703
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Speaker 1: for the terminal gate price sitting at two dollars eighty

704
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Speaker 1: seven point five. Now, to give you a bit of context,

705
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Speaker 1: on Monday this week it was at two dollars sixty

706
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Speaker 1: two point three. So there's been a massive jump. When

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Speaker 1: you go across to the bowser for you diesel around

708
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Speaker 1: Darwin today two dollars eighty three point nine is the

709
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Speaker 1: cheapest you're.

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Speaker 2: Going to find it.

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Speaker 1: It then goes up to two dollars ninety two point eight. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's around the Northern Territory. Obviously, Josh, we've got you here.

713
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Speaker 1: So let's have a look at Central Australia and at

714
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Speaker 1: the moment T Tree, the T Tree Farm Garden is

715
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Speaker 1: at two dollars forty nine. Then goes up, you know

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Speaker 1: when you look at some of the different locations around

717
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Speaker 1: Central Australia, all the way up to like well three

718
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Speaker 1: dollars ninety five point nine at the Independent Curtain Springs

719
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Speaker 1: Wayside in So I know that's a little further out.

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Speaker 1: But then even having a look in the you know,

721
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Speaker 1: in the Litchfield region for your diesel, the independent Sampalms

722
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Speaker 1: Roadhouse two dollars sixty five. Darwin River is at two

723
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Speaker 1: dollars ninety three point nine. It's going to be three

724
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Speaker 1: bucks by the end of the weekend for a lot

725
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Speaker 1: of us, I think, and none of us want it

726
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Speaker 1: to be that way, but I can see that that's

727
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Speaker 1: the path we're on.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Katie. Let's just reassure territories there's no immediate fuel

729
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Speaker 3: shortage here in the territory. Okay, we're better than bloody COVID.

730
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Speaker 3: We don't need to go and stuck up on toilet paper.

731
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Speaker 3: Let's just all continue to get what we need and

732
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Speaker 3: don't go out there filling up rainwater tanks like I've

733
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 3: seen in some of the other states around the country.

734
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Speaker 3: Fuel shipments from Singapore are continuing regularly around four to

735
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Speaker 3: five per month, and the storage levels of vopak. Remember

736
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Speaker 3: everyone having a crack of us over those fuel tanks, Codie, Well,

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what they're coming in Andy now. We

738
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Speaker 3: urged territorians not to stuck up on fuel. I'm certainly

739
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Speaker 3: going to be getting when I get home Dalla Springs,

740
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Speaker 3: riding the bike more often because at three dollars a

741
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Speaker 3: leter in my hometown of Alice, that's that's bloody expense.

742
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Speaker 1: Those vaupack ones are they're the ones that were worried

743
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Speaker 1: that they were leaking.

744
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: Mate. People people were saying, mate, I'll go out with

745
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Speaker 3: a bucket. I don't even want to get back into that, mate.

746
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Speaker 3: There was nothing wrong with the bloody tanks. Anyway, we're

747
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Speaker 3: working through all this in regards to the fuel prices.

748
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Speaker 3: Let's be really clear here, no one wants to see

749
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Speaker 3: Territorians ripped up, ripped off. After we've just been through

750
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Speaker 3: what we've been through. I've been in and spoken to

751
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Speaker 3: a number of those smaller independent ops. They're buying, like

752
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: you said, fuel at the terminal gate for two dollars

753
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Speaker 3: eighty seven and then you're seeing it sold around down

754
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Speaker 3: for about two dollars ninety two dollars ninety two, So

755
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: you know they're literally making three to four cents a

756
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Speaker 3: leter and then they're having to look after their families

757
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Speaker 3: as well. But what we don't want to see is

758
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Speaker 3: anyone gouging. So those huge differences that we initially saw

759
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Speaker 3: between the terminal gate price of two sixty and then

760
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Speaker 3: people being charged to eighty. That's forty cents. That's huge.

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Speaker 2: I'll be really blunt about it.

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Speaker 1: The thing that shits me is the moment that the

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Speaker 1: terminal gate price goes up. Then you see it at

764
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Speaker 1: the bowser, But when it comes down, you don't see

765
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Speaker 1: it go down that.

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Speaker 2: Quickly, do you?

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Speaker 5: Until they get that next you know truck in and

768
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Speaker 5: what I mean? Yeah, good that the a Triple C

769
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Speaker 5: is having a look at it, But realistically, do we

770
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Speaker 5: really ever think anything's going to come of it. We've

771
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Speaker 5: seen them look at regional and remote prices before and

772
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Speaker 5: nothing's come from it. Because when we face similar situations

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Speaker 5: of the discrepancy between the terminal gate price and the

774
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Speaker 5: price at the bowser, I mean, yeah, don't panic by

775
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Speaker 5: But I think as we've received text from some of

776
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 5: our listeners, is that people filling up jerry Can's at

777
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 5: a certain price because we don't know where it's going

778
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 5: to end, so they're like, to save a couple of bucks,

779
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 5: you want to fill it up at a slightly cheaper price.

780
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Speaker 5: You've got that to be able to deal with your

781
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Speaker 5: household bills.

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Speaker 3: Now, I will say for Jim Charmers, and this goes

783
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: to what the federal government are doing. He doubled, doubled

784
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Speaker 3: the fine from fifty million dollars to one hundred million dollars. So, look,

785
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 3: we're happy to work with everyone and get right on

786
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: board with what the federal government are doing, because there

787
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 3: needs to be a clear message. If you're found to

788
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 3: be ripping off people, you'll be fining. You'll be fined big.

789
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

790
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 4: Look, and we welcome that too from the federal government.

791
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 4: Jim Charmers. You know, we did asks a question to

792
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Speaker 4: the Treasurer this week about what action he'll be taking

793
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 4: around fuel prices. He said, they've had some they can

794
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 4: pull some levers, but we still don't understand what those

795
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 4: levers are. I understand all the treasure has done is

796
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 4: written to the A Triple C in regards to fuel prices.

797
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Speaker 4: So I would like to see, you know, like other

798
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Speaker 4: states are doing, actually getting industry around the table to

799
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 4: sit down and you map out how we can hold

800
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Speaker 4: the retailers a bit more accountable to ensure that people

801
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 4: aren't price gouging. You know, I've just spoke too earlier

802
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 4: Katie about in some places people saw a price jump

803
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 4: overnight of fuel and they were reaching out to me,

804
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 4: not understanding why that had happened, even though a truck

805
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 4: hadn't even come into top up. So there is a

806
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 4: bit of that going on at the moment and we

807
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 4: need to be aware of it. Yeah, I pick up

808
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 4: on the point that Josh spoke about earlier, you know,

809
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 4: getting on the pushbike, an electric books pushbick. I mean,

810
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 4: I'm going to practical solution to this. Maybe there's a

811
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Speaker 4: subsidy for electric bikes just coming from the cet environment.

812
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Speaker 3: I'd be all about that. I've got about three or

813
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: four bikes a name. I don't think the miss have

814
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: been too happy if I brought home another one, So

815
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Speaker 3: no worry. The government giving us a.

816
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Speaker 1: Subsidence might need another one, I'll tell you what though.

817
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: This is something that over the years we've spoken about

818
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: a lot. I've never seen the prices this high before,

819
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: but you know, ten sort of ten years ago, it's

820
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: something we used to speak about on the show every

821
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: day with Pete Davies. We'd go through the petrol prices

822
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: and we had a fuel summit, remember that one Adam

823
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: Giles called the Fuel Summit and said we were coppying

824
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: the rough end of the pineapple when it came.

825
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Speaker 2: To petrol prices. Not really an analogy that anybody wanted.

826
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Speaker 1: But then we also had Michael Gunner talking very tough

827
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: about it a few years later. But we always end

828
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: up still, you know, feeling like we're getting shafted, and

829
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how it gets sorted. I feel like

830
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: we're you know, we're at the whim of these massive companies.

831
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what I've seen happened in the past is that

832
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: the territory has been a lot higher than the rest

833
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 3: of the country. What's happening right now. And I couldn't

834
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: believe some of the prices we're seeing in our cities

835
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: around the country because this is quite literally impacting everyone

836
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 3: due to that war in Iran. So I was quite

837
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 3: literally I went on to Google Maps last night and

838
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: looked at this straight up for muss that everyone's been

839
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 3: talking about, and couldn't believe that twenty percent of the

840
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: world's oil comes through that straight because that's what I

841
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 3: was trying to understand. How is this impacting us in

842
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: such a huge when we keep talking about Singapore. But

843
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 3: at the end of the day. It's all going to

844
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 3: come from somewhere.

845
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: We've had a few discussions about this affair throughout the

846
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: week as well. We used to have i believe, twelve

847
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: refineries in Australia. We're now down to two and Albanez

848
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: is looking at extending the life of those through a

849
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: government sort of subsidy to try to be able to

850
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: keep them operating. But you know, something like our fuel,

851
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: I think a lot of Australians would probably be okay

852
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: with money being invested into that so that we can

853
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: ensure that we are not reliant on, you know, on

854
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: other countries and we can be self sufficient to some

855
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: degree if we have to be at any point.

856
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 5: I mean, it goes to the whole idea of you know,

857
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 5: our manufacturing industry. You know, we saw the car industry

858
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 5: collapse because we take them over from overseas, and same

859
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 5: with the idea from both governments in terms of building

860
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 5: the Northern territories manufacturing abilities which provides extra jobs and

861
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. So yeah, there really does need

862
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 5: to be a relook at making sure that Australia itself

863
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 5: is able to sustain ourselves. We saw it during COVID, yes,

864
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Speaker 5: and then it.

865
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Speaker 1: Kind of it's like a hot issue, then it drops

866
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Speaker 1: off and everybody forgets about it. But I think that

867
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Speaker 1: we've got to, you know, like we need to have

868
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: a serious discussion about that as Australians, Like how we

869
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Speaker 1: ensure that we are a little bit more self sufficient

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Speaker 1: when we've got all the resources that we need here.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's right, you know, and Cat's right, we

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Speaker 4: should be looking at how do we manufacture some of

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Speaker 4: our own products here in Australia. I think people are

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Speaker 4: quite concerned about the amount of tax dollars money that

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Speaker 4: goes into multinational companies. I've speaked to many people, many tradees,

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Speaker 4: many young people that are concerned about that. I think

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Speaker 4: that needs to be at looked at from all levels

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Speaker 4: of government, federal, territory, state governments, because at the end

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Speaker 4: of the day, that is our taxpayers dollars, and we

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Speaker 4: should be investing in Australian owned companies and some government

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Speaker 4: owned assets as well to ensure that we own some

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Speaker 4: of those critical minerals ourselves. That goes back into the

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Speaker 4: territory or into Australia so it's not going offshore, and

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Speaker 4: we look after Australians to ensure that it brings those

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Speaker 4: prices down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: Well, look that's it for us this morning, guys. Always

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Speaker 1: a busy morning. We never run out of things to

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Speaker 1: talk about on the week that was, that is for sure.

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Speaker 1: Josh Bergwine, thank you as always for your time.

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Speaker 3: Today, Buddie, and just yeah, absolutely be alert, put on

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Speaker 3: an alarm throughout grod Island, Alien, goul and normal and

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Speaker 3: then as that cyclone comes across the end of the weekend,

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Speaker 3: thinking of everyone in those areas and please bunk it down.

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Speaker 2: Josh, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Deran Young, the Member for Daily and Deputy Opposition later,

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Speaker 1: thank you for your time.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, and like Josh said, just keep note on

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Speaker 4: secure and tea. And I'm also if anyone's around the

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Speaker 4: rural area, come out to the Litchfield Arcs exhibition out

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Speaker 4: at Humpty do. I know there's a few members of

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Speaker 4: Parliament that will be there, but it's a great night

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Speaker 4: out on Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. And Kathleen, you're not going anywhere. You've got

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Speaker 1: the local news aftaground. Thank you all so much for

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Speaker 1: your time this morning. You are listening to Mix one

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