WEBVTT - POMARA FIFTH TALKS RUPAUL'S AND THOSE PANTIES!

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload the podcast last week that light. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>guys to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris, and on

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<v Speaker 1>I have the latest eliminated queen from RuPaul's Drag Race.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Pomara fifth. This week, the competition heated up

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<v Speaker 1>as down onto Series two saw the queens put the

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<v Speaker 1>word sabotage under the microphone. There was no way to

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<v Speaker 1>hide with Molly Poppins getting an advantage that saw her

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<v Speaker 1>not so secret strategy being called out by the other queens.

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<v Speaker 1>I for one, did not see Pomara's elimination coming, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have thoroughly enjoyed her confidence and sent humor that

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<v Speaker 1>she's brought to the show. We will talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>clashes behind the scenes. What was happening with those panties

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<v Speaker 1>who the Queen's turned to if the drama gets too much,

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<v Speaker 1>And I will also try my hardest to get some

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<v Speaker 1>shady answers from today's guest. However, let's get started with

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<v Speaker 1>Pamara fifth. I'd like to welcome this week's Queen of

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<v Speaker 1>Stan Australia to TV Relod.

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<v Speaker 2>Watching the show and being there in person two different things.

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<v Speaker 1>Previously, I'm RuPaul's dragres.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember thinking to myself, Oh my god, don't don't laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't laugh. If I really wanted to sabotage, you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to put you with many after last week? That would

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<v Speaker 2>have been a fun pairing. You know. I think to myself, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if that was me, I wouldn't have done that.

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<v Speaker 1>Tamara, let's talk about drag brunch.

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<v Speaker 2>Why don't you go ahead? You know I'd had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of messages being like, oh my god, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>you tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifth, you can leave here with your head held high.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the producers of Real he tried to betray

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<v Speaker 2>everyone as positively as they can.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi there, Pomara fifth, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi? I'm good, think you? How are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic to be able to have this chat with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you really brought a lot to this series.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you happy with how you came across on Down

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<v Speaker 1>Under Series? Too?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? I mean I can't complain. You know, I made

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<v Speaker 2>it onto the show, so you know, no complaints here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess there's going to be lots of people

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to get on the show. Did you have a

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<v Speaker 1>secret trick to being able to get the producers to

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<v Speaker 1>fall in love with you?

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<v Speaker 2>I bribed them? No? No, I mean you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>did not think to myself at all that I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to make it on. You know, there was no

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<v Speaker 2>and you know I got the I got the with

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<v Speaker 2>my audition video, and you know, I was actually very

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<v Speaker 2>close to I actually recovered my audition video from the

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<v Speaker 2>bin because I was like, you know, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to do it and.

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<v Speaker 1>Scratch it and then here we are. You know, this season,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's very hard to predict who is

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<v Speaker 1>going home and I've always wanted to know. With RuPaul's

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<v Speaker 1>drag race, what's it like in the actual work room.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you get a sense of who's going to go home?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not. I mean you see more watching it back,

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, ah, okay, I can see because you're seeing everything.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're seeing everything once, but when we're there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't know what the others have spoken

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<v Speaker 2>about with other mentors or stuff like that. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that in there doing a thing, doing the best

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<v Speaker 2>you can. And then I guess it all just comes

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<v Speaker 2>down to I guess what Rude decides. I think you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you just you don't know. So I think that's why

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<v Speaker 2>us as a whole, we were all like, we're just

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<v Speaker 2>going to enjoy this as much as we can because

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know who we're going to lose.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's been some edits, like you know, RuPaul's Drag

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<v Speaker 1>Race has been on TV for so long and you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of become skilled at the art of trying to

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<v Speaker 1>pick it. And in the American version, I sometimes got

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where I could sit there in the

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<v Speaker 1>first five minutes and go, that's the person's going home.

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<v Speaker 1>She got the first Master interview, that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But I never saw you leaving in this episode, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that says more about me and my fandom for

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<v Speaker 1>you and less about the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's kind of good. You know, it's that

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<v Speaker 2>shock value. You know, I would have preferred a double

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<v Speaker 2>save to be honest, or even an art simone edit,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, get to jump back out of rubbish. But

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<v Speaker 2>to TV shows, you know first and foremost, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>the way the cookie crumbles. I guess someone's got to

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<v Speaker 2>do it, someone's got to go home eventually, But it

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<v Speaker 2>was me, unfortunately why But I was very honored. I

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed my time there, so no complaints.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a lot of confidence in the way in

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<v Speaker 1>which you present yourself, which came out in your pieces

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<v Speaker 1>to camera.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that.

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<v Speaker 1>Your mood on the day that you shoot those talk

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<v Speaker 1>pieces really defines the way that the audience get to

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<v Speaker 1>know you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think, you know. My my goal I just

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<v Speaker 2>been going on there. You know, I didn't really think

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<v Speaker 2>about anything too much. I was just like, my mindset

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<v Speaker 2>of go in was like, I'm just going to go

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<v Speaker 2>in and be myself and show as much of my

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<v Speaker 2>personality as I can. And watching it back, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was kind of like, oh, okay, good. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't come across like boring Betty. My personality did

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<v Speaker 2>come across And I think I always try and remain

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<v Speaker 2>positive and always try and sort of keep in that

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<v Speaker 2>mindset of going if I'm not feeling too well or

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not feeling great about something, It's not the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the world. There are people out there who are

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<v Speaker 2>starving and have gone through terrible things. So I can't

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<v Speaker 2>really sit here out because I'm on a TV show

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not going the way that I want. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just a matter of sort of keeping

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<v Speaker 2>that head, that mindset and being like, I'm just going

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<v Speaker 2>to try and be myself and show my personality as

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<v Speaker 2>much as I can and hopefully entertain everyone watching.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's been a lot of talk about sabotage

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<v Speaker 1>online and in the work room. Do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>RuPaul's Drag Race is more competitive in the way that

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<v Speaker 1>our girls play the game in comparison how it's played overseas.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing I think, and you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>truly know because I haven't been on set overseas, and

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<v Speaker 2>watching the show and being there in person two different things.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially doing Drag Race. I will never judge another show

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<v Speaker 2>in my life based on just watching it, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is my cake. I think the American versions are more

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<v Speaker 2>competitive and more strategic, whereas I think the down undergirls

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<v Speaker 2>are very like ah, you know, whatever happens happens, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and Molly's choosings, I don't think we're sabotaged at all. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that was her mindset going in. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think she was trying to play the game and

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<v Speaker 2>be strategic. So I think it was very much like

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<v Speaker 2>on the spot decision of going, oh, you know, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're just going to these two together, you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>like she said in the episode, you know, ah, they're

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<v Speaker 2>both in yellow and we'll just put them together. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was very bad. It was she didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really get time to think about it, and you really don't.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't really have time to sort of sit there

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<v Speaker 2>and ponder and go hmmm, unless you're trying to pick

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<v Speaker 2>what's in the treaty's underwear. Really drag that out and

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<v Speaker 2>take my time. But yeah, you don't really get time

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<v Speaker 2>to sort of think. And I think, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was just very that, you know, Molly's Molly's intent is

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<v Speaker 2>always good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Molly Popin said, miss congeniality is out the window.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here to win, which you very quickly pointed out

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<v Speaker 1>in your piece of camera, And so for you it

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<v Speaker 1>was not going unnoticed that she might have been like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that Molly is being too strategic or

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<v Speaker 1>is that just good gameplay?

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<v Speaker 2>I think she's good at gameplay. And this is the thing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Molly's always got a good heart, but she's

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<v Speaker 2>not above game playing. She knows what she wants. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think Molly was very in the mindset of just

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<v Speaker 2>doing her and just sort of yeah, looking out for like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, number one. Because I was very close to

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<v Speaker 2>beating Molly, very close to beating Molly in that episode,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think, you know, I think to myself, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if that was me, I wouldn't have done that. I

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<v Speaker 2>would have definitely done different piry because you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was one right guess, one correct guess away for beating Molly.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess so I was, yeah, I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have I would have definitely changed them. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know it is what it is. No hard feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>You just cost me the competition, that's all. No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so Kiddy's so kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this all kind of did come out in that

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<v Speaker 1>mini challenge people talking about the shady pairings. Who do

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<v Speaker 1>you think was the shadiest pairing that Molly managed to pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Uri and Benky for sure, but again, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think to myself, when I really think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still paid off to them in the end. I

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<v Speaker 2>think people, I think then and there, especially in the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>Uri was very underestimated, and URI's a you know, phenomenal

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<v Speaker 2>character and actually very witty and very fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>And Spanky, well, Spanky is Spanky. You know, Spanky is

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<v Speaker 2>just this amazing evervescence of a personality. So I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, really, if you were going to look at

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<v Speaker 2>it for what it was, putting the quieter one with

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<v Speaker 2>the stronger personality, you know, kind of does balance out

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. I think you Spanky really would have

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<v Speaker 2>really brought that out of Uri and really embed Uri

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<v Speaker 2>up and that's why they won. So I think, really,

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<v Speaker 2>in hindsight, it was one of the best pairings ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, like she said on the episode, is she

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<v Speaker 2>really wanted to be shady, she would have put me

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<v Speaker 2>with Minnie, But again, I think, what if that would

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<v Speaker 2>have gone to a detriment. You know, Minnie and I

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<v Speaker 2>have worked together for nine years, so we were totally

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<v Speaker 2>kicked aff.

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<v Speaker 1>Well interesting with Minnie Cooper, you know, she's getting a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of attention online with people talking about some of

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<v Speaker 1>the drama that she's creating. Do you think that that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of shaken bake drama for her and is that

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<v Speaker 1>a way for her to get noticed?

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, that's Minnie.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, You've worked with her for nine years and she

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<v Speaker 1>starts drama wherever she goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, just because I've worked with her for nine years

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean it's been a great working relationship. But there

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<v Speaker 2>has definitely been no drama or beef between Mini. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the first sort of I guess confrontation I've

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<v Speaker 2>sort of ever had with her. So that was definitely

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<v Speaker 2>a surprise to me. But you know, i'd heard whisper

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff before, I'd gone over about you know, what

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<v Speaker 2>Minnie has said about me prior, and so when I

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<v Speaker 2>found out, you know, when I walked in and saw

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<v Speaker 2>Minnie was on the show, I was like, oh, But

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<v Speaker 2>in my eyes, I was like, this is not the

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<v Speaker 2>time or the place to bring this up. I will

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take Minnie aside one day and just say hey,

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<v Speaker 2>what's up. But then all of that happened in episode two,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, well, I guess it's coming out now,

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<v Speaker 2>so they really they really gave us a really soft,

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<v Speaker 2>nice edit in episode two because it was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>harsher and a lot more comfortable than what you saw.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you get nervous worried about that because you know

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<v Speaker 1>how much was on film, you know, you know how

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<v Speaker 1>much was shot, So you're thinking, God, what is going

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<v Speaker 1>to end up in the edit? Has that been a

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<v Speaker 1>stressful process waiting for the show to go.

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<v Speaker 2>To weir Not at all. I completely put my faith

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<v Speaker 2>in the producers and editors on the show. I obviously

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<v Speaker 2>got to know some of it, like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>them over there, and they're azing at what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>And the difference is down under here. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't really have that villain edit. We don't really have

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<v Speaker 2>that with nobody has their specific edits. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>very much just like what you see is how it is.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no editing, you know, there's no no one's trying to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, really force an edit onto someone, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>If anything, I think it's really trying to put everyone

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<v Speaker 2>in a good light. I think the producers have really

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<v Speaker 2>tried to betray everyone as positively as they can because

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<v Speaker 2>we're here to do drag. We're here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got to be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got to be fun. Nobody wants to be made

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<v Speaker 2>to feel uncomfortable. So I think it was edited in

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<v Speaker 2>the most positive way that it could be. And if

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<v Speaker 2>people are still coming out looking like oursholes, well you

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<v Speaker 2>can imagine if it was edited to its truest form.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that Your Bottomless Brunch was actually really great,

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<v Speaker 1>and I rewatched that episode twice before chatting with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and the second time round I thought was even better.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wasn't really sure about the whole fuck you

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<v Speaker 1>fuck me, and you kind of pointed that out before

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<v Speaker 1>it happened, and then it didn't seem to land. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that must have been really hard for you, working

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<v Speaker 1>with Beverly Hills when you kind of knew that idea

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to work right.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Like I said, I you know, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't. I didn't like it, you know, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think it was a good idea, and she was very

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<v Speaker 2>determined to keep that in and she really wanted it

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<v Speaker 2>in and very much about compromising, you know, and like

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<v Speaker 2>I stated on the table, you know, we can do

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<v Speaker 2>my thing, we can do her thing, and we can

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<v Speaker 2>leave some room for spontaneity, but yeah, there wasn't a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of compromise from kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of like where they could that's I think you've publicly

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<v Speaker 1>discussed not being happy with the judges critique, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and well not the judges, but you know what Reese

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<v Speaker 1>could have said, or Chris Parker could have said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they could have picked some of more of

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<v Speaker 1>that up and said, hey, that's not going to work, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely think, you know, going in there, maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>I think could have said, you know, along the lines

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<v Speaker 2>of yeah, I'm right, you know, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to land. You know, it didn't. The proof is

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<v Speaker 2>in the pudding. Didn't really And just even watching it back,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh god, no, not this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not good for a podcast. It's not good for

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast. But this was my face.

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<v Speaker 2>I am very that very that yeah, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah. I was sort of like looking through my fingers, like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh god, no, but we did it, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>sort of, I think at the end, and this was

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<v Speaker 2>a bad choice. On my end was sort of throwing

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<v Speaker 2>my hands in the air and going, well, fuck it, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sick of arguing with you, We'll keep what you

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<v Speaker 2>want in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I found it really frustrating because for me, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like Beverly Hills was categorizing over preparation being better or

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<v Speaker 1>at libbing being better. But for me, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>hosted so many different events and I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a combination of the two of them, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't think that there's ever a right way

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. Some people who need to over prepare, great,

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<v Speaker 1>you over prepare as much as you want. And then

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I need to have the space to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to still add lib because if you're a good entertainer,

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<v Speaker 1>you're always going to need to think on your feet.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't script at all. And then watching that frustration

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<v Speaker 1>between the two of you, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, it was. It was so it was so

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<v Speaker 2>frustrating because you know, you're on drag race. This is

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<v Speaker 2>We're not just at a gig. You know, we're on

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<v Speaker 2>drag race. This could possibly mean this could be bake

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<v Speaker 2>or break time. And I think I have like eight

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<v Speaker 2>years on her, and I developed that I was I've

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<v Speaker 2>been fortunate enough to sort of be shown the ropes

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<v Speaker 2>when I was younger, and I've grown up in drag

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<v Speaker 2>around amazing hosts and amazing comedians, And so I learned

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<v Speaker 2>that skill of like there is no wrong or right

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<v Speaker 2>way to sort of do this. And I said it

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<v Speaker 2>in the episode where I said, you know, we can

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<v Speaker 2>prepare a little bit, we can add lib a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll just create that and create that space of

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<v Speaker 2>trying to bounce off people whilst you're also still trying

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<v Speaker 2>to keep it slightly scripted for Beverly's sake. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was a matter of that compromise, whereas I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>Beverly has quite learned that yet, and I hope that

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<v Speaker 2>was a learning curve for her. But you can't you

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<v Speaker 2>can't just do one way or the other. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>matter of it's a real combination of everything, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>no wrong the right way. I guess it's sort of

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<v Speaker 2>just like, all right, well, we know what works for me,

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<v Speaker 2>we know what works for you. Let's combine the both

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<v Speaker 2>and let's hope for the best. And I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was very much of let's it ended up very much

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<v Speaker 2>being I think seventy thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I just think the drag is not something you

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<v Speaker 1>can script very well. I mean, the best drag queens

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<v Speaker 1>that I know in Melbourne. You know, the best ones

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<v Speaker 1>are people who know who they are as their character

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<v Speaker 1>on stage and so whatever happens because you are one

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<v Speaker 1>character entertaining with another character being the audience, You've got

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to change and shift and underst stand

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<v Speaker 1>where it's going to go. I think that's where having

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<v Speaker 1>more experience really helps, and it really helps you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say, when we watched all of the

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<v Speaker 1>reveals of the Queens, your package was so well put together.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were so funny and so natural, and

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<v Speaker 1>that just goes to show you how much you understand

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<v Speaker 1>your You understand her, you know, and respect her and

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<v Speaker 1>understand where that's going to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I think also doing that, you know brunch. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've had a lot of messages being like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not you, Like that wasn't you at all, And

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<v Speaker 2>you know it wasn't you know. You come to my

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<v Speaker 2>local gig, you know I am. I'm off the cuff

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, completely and ugly made up and completely nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've got the whole crowd laughing the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what I basically love doing the most is

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<v Speaker 2>making people laugh, and I've been doing that well for

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<v Speaker 2>like I would say, seven years now, and I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>when that was sort of happening, I was like, I'm uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Well worked it out though. From the three episodes, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got a face. There's a face that you pull when

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, you know, I'm I don't think anyone would

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<v Speaker 1>pick it up, and I think.

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<v Speaker 2>People I want to know about this.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of times throughout the three episodes, where you're

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<v Speaker 1>not completely happy with what's happening, You've got like a

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<v Speaker 1>go to B face that you pull, and I could

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<v Speaker 1>see that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like that, it's like a.

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<v Speaker 1>And I could see it, you know. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like even in your runway, look, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you were by yourself, there was a moment where I

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<v Speaker 1>think you thought, oh, this could have been better or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you were a little bit inside your head,

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<v Speaker 1>and because you're a professional, the average person wouldn't pick

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<v Speaker 1>up on it. But I watch live entertainers all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I see it, and yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That episode was I was completely full of doubt inside

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<v Speaker 2>my head and which I swore to myself I wouldn't do,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know I was. I was hungry, I was tired,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there was so many things. I was feeling

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<v Speaker 2>home sick. You know, we're also going to remember we're

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<v Speaker 2>also there a lot longer than you see your camera. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just having a moment that day, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>having a moment. It wasn't my week. I was feeling

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<v Speaker 2>pretty bummed out by the toast. I felt like I

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<v Speaker 2>sort of bombed, you know, and I did. I felt

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<v Speaker 2>in my eyes, you know, because that wasn't me. I

0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.679
<v Speaker 2>wasn't giving pamara and you know, there was some funny

0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:23.320
<v Speaker 2>things that I had said, especially about colonization. There was

0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.119
<v Speaker 2>like a funny joke in there about colonization, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was like, ah, great, Like you know, people are fucking

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<v Speaker 2>laughing the ads off about that one. But that was

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<v Speaker 2>basically it for me, and I think the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>it was sort of like, yeah, I just sort of

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<v Speaker 2>felt uncomfortable. And then on the runway, I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'm just go out there and just

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<v Speaker 2>present this gown. And I think, you know, that was

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<v Speaker 2>my one of my most absolute favorite things to wear ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so proud of it and so hot to

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<v Speaker 2>wear it. And the funny thing is is when Ree

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<v Speaker 2>says Mark. And I heard Reese say that on the day,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember I remember thinking to myself, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>don't don't laugh, don't laugh. But you know, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>I had to sort of go, well, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>brush it off. We're going to shake it off, We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to go present this down and hope to God

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe this pulls me over the line. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things I wanted to know though after

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<v Speaker 1>the show. You know, if you're clashing with any of

0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.640
<v Speaker 1>the queens, is there a system where you get any

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<v Speaker 1>support to help any animosity between you and say someone else,

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<v Speaker 1>like if there has been a bit of a rumble

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<v Speaker 1>in the jungle, so to speak, through the production. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there anyone that can jump in and try and help

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<v Speaker 1>you girls, or do you just have to work it

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<v Speaker 1>at yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>You work at yourself. You know, we're adults. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's sort of like, you know, figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>We do have a psychologist that we could call at

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<v Speaker 2>any moment, but that's our own choosing if we ever

0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:47.280
<v Speaker 2>want to do that. But no, if there's any and

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<v Speaker 2>it must be you know, just figuring it out yourself

0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.560
<v Speaker 2>when there was you know, there was, there was tensions

0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.000
<v Speaker 2>built up, you know, from day one. I think there

0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.000
<v Speaker 2>was a lot of many had these sort of little

0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:00.600
<v Speaker 2>jabs that she'd sort of do it me little one

0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:02.320
<v Speaker 2>line is that she'd sort of do it me since

0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:04.639
<v Speaker 2>stay one, and I think since and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when episode two happened, that was sort of just like, oh,

0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:10.520
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I've had enough of the shit and

0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:12.800
<v Speaker 2>it sort of blew up and then it never really

0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:19.280
<v Speaker 2>recovered and it hasn't still. But that's not through that's

0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:22.560
<v Speaker 2>through her lack of trying not mine should even make

0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.280
<v Speaker 2>eye contact with me, you know. But that's just that's

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<v Speaker 2>just me. I'm used to it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something so much better about the community of this

0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:34.360
<v Speaker 1>experience and enjoying the relationships ian it becomes like family.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyone that is going to choose to have that problem,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're the ones that are kind of excluding themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Right absolutely. But also at the same time, you know,

0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:46.480
<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's best not to be friends with people. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, especially on my scene and the way that

0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.240
<v Speaker 2>they've bullied them. I don't really want to be friends

0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:53.520
<v Speaker 2>with people like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like, if we're going to call someone

0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:59.080
<v Speaker 1>a bully, though, we have to bring them into the room.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm looking forward to holding a drink in my

0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:03.520
<v Speaker 1>in my hand at one o'clock in the morning and

0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:05.600
<v Speaker 1>being in the same rum as the two of you

0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:06.680
<v Speaker 1>at one o'clock.

0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:11.879
<v Speaker 2>One o'clock. Let's call it a good ten pm. But

0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:13.840
<v Speaker 2>then after that, I've got to get some hungry Jackson

0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:17.760
<v Speaker 2>go home because you know, no, you know, you really do,

0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:19.560
<v Speaker 2>you do. They do have to be present, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm one of those people that won't say anything behind

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<v Speaker 2>someone's back, that I won't sit of their face exactly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you've just got to really let it go,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you do. You have to let it go.

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<v Speaker 2>You find where your your people are, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>You find where you people are. You find your good

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<v Speaker 2>relationships and you did you just deal what you work

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<v Speaker 2>with them, and you live life and you move on.

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<v Speaker 2>You be happy and you make you know, your bake

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<v Speaker 2>bread and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I missed out on the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>ask a question about your red fulfilled look before when

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about with a runway look, I wondered,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with that looked so amazing during the runway,

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<v Speaker 1>but with the lip sync where you did the peel

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<v Speaker 1>and reveal. I wasn't sure if you were happy with

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<v Speaker 1>the peel and reveal, like the panty piece that you

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<v Speaker 1>were underneath.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't that was not intended reveal. What that was

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<v Speaker 2>not an intended reveal at all. If it fucking was,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have put on red underwear. I would.

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<v Speaker 1>They did you the favor though of cutting it out though,

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<v Speaker 1>because they were like, you know, for a lot of it,

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<v Speaker 1>they were just cutting you from the head up anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just was like, oh, I thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>a peel and reveal. It goes to show how stupid

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<v Speaker 1>I am.

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<v Speaker 2>So many people did you know there was a I

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<v Speaker 2>was watching a YouTube series of people being like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just wish she had bread undermere on and blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah, and it's like, well, so do I, so

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<v Speaker 2>do I. But I didn't plan on revealing. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>plan on ripping off my skirt. I didn't plan on

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<v Speaker 2>that at all. But you know, sometimes you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>think on your feet and just go with it. I

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<v Speaker 2>was not about to go down without a fight, and

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't about to dance in forty meters of Gavid fabric.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it just gotta do what you gotta do,

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<v Speaker 2>and that means taking off your skirt to reveal you're delicious.

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<v Speaker 2>Nude panties.

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<v Speaker 1>Nude panties. I was like, nude panties is not what

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<v Speaker 1>needs to happen right now, and it just yeah, now

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<v Speaker 1>it's all makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>What you've got noude panties is what I had on

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<v Speaker 2>and that's all I had. Look, it could have been

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<v Speaker 2>worse than it could have been black panties, and we

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<v Speaker 2>already know.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry. I was running late for this interview, and

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<v Speaker 1>so were you. But I've been sitting here waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>you to get here. So I'm sitting here with no

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<v Speaker 1>pants on, which you can't see. But I was you

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<v Speaker 1>could turn up at any point, so I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't leave the room to go and get my pants.

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<v Speaker 1>So turns out we have a lot in common, my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, the fun fact is, I'm not wearing

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<v Speaker 2>cants either.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what makes a good podcast, right, But I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to be comfortable. We're gonna move on, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>quickly before you go. One of the things I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you about the overall tone of this series

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<v Speaker 1>was is our humor a little bit more bawdy and

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more outrageous than any other version around

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Do you think that we as Australians and

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<v Speaker 1>New Zealanders, that we have a more body sense of humor?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? Our ourisons of humor is unlike anyone else's, like

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<v Speaker 2>like it's it's so it's so unique and it's so different,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's so funny. It's it's amazing, you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>love I love the down Under sense of humor and

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it sometimes doesn't, you know, always translate

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<v Speaker 2>to people outside of down Under and that's a shame.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, hopefully I think the more and more

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<v Speaker 2>seasons that happen, you know, maybe the Australian humor might

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<v Speaker 2>rub off a little bit and they might, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>start understanding it some more.

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<v Speaker 1>I always ask, what's something from behind the scenes of

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<v Speaker 1>the series that you worked on, But you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many rules and regulations, you know when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to RuPaul's Drag Race, which I completely respect. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a huge global franchise. So I've bumped that question out

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<v Speaker 1>now and I'm now just asking a series of questions

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<v Speaker 1>I call it shady or and you have to work

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<v Speaker 1>out whether you want to be shady and answer the

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<v Speaker 1>question or be a lady and veto it. Alright, shady,

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<v Speaker 1>old lady. Who was the most talented?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, that's a loaded question all of us? I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that depends what the talent is, but yeah, all

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<v Speaker 2>of us.

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't think there was one person, not someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's progressing. I mean it could be faux from the

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<v Speaker 1>first episode, like, you don't think that there's one person

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<v Speaker 1>that you just were like, Wow, they are really talented

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<v Speaker 1>but unnoticed.

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<v Speaker 2>Could Hannah beat me in a look yes? Could I

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<v Speaker 2>beat her in a dance off? Yes? Could Beverly beat

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<v Speaker 2>me in a dance off? Yes? Can I beat her

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<v Speaker 2>in comedy? Yes? You know, everyone had their strength and skills.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm going to say that you said lady for

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<v Speaker 1>that one because that was not shady at all. That

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<v Speaker 1>was lovely. You were a lady. Who is the funniest?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I give a top three?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Just one?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you bad at this? I was expecting you

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, bang bang bang.

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<v Speaker 2>Fine me me ben me there that what you wanted me?

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<v Speaker 1>Your top three? Who's your top three?

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<v Speaker 2>Me? Hannah speaky.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, who is the messiest queen?

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<v Speaker 2>This will be shady messiest.

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<v Speaker 1>So and this is the last one for you who

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<v Speaker 1>deserve to go instead of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh fuck me, Ben Jesus Christ really end with a

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<v Speaker 3>doozy Oh god, Oh I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do that to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is what it is. I mean, no one's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna They're not gonna come for you. Have They just

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<v Speaker 1>just be like because I've.

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<v Speaker 2>Already said a name so many times in this podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to seem like I'm really coming

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<v Speaker 2>at it because I'm not. But current consensus between you know,

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<v Speaker 2>me and the other girls, I'm gonna say, Minni.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, we got there at the.

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<v Speaker 2>Edge because of the nipause.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to start on a thing. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to start on a thing. I'm not Richard's from

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<v Speaker 1>the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills close to it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say how fantastic I thought you were.

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely loved you. I honestly thought as I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching the series you were a top three queen for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so disappointed that you've gone. But one thing is

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, like the rest of the world. We will

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<v Speaker 1>be in your audience, so I look forward to seeing

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<v Speaker 1>what you're doing next. And thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, thank you, Ben, it's been it's been great, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been great talking to you. You're fantastic and I

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<v Speaker 2>can't wait to show what I've got coming up, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot, so stay shinned.