1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: Joining me live on the line is certainly a voice 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: that you will recognize. It's Darryl Mansey. Good morning, Darryl, 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: Good morning Katie. 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: Actually this is the second time I know much. 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: We've gone from not speaking, you know, I'm not hearing 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: from each other for a very long time, to now 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: we're almost making it a weekly segment. 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: Darryl'll be talking. 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: About it absolutely absolutely. Now I've been contacted by a 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: number of residents in per Rap about this issue with 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: the pool manager's house that used to be obviously utilized 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: for the pool manager there at par Rap. Now, as 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: I understand it, the council had first off looked to 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: rezone it as are ones or residential, and they're now 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: wanting to utilize it as community use. Daryl, tell me 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: what you know. 17 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: Okay, well, you're spot on there with what you said, 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: but I think it's worth while also pointing out out 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: that three old women voted against that the change of 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: direction that the two old women had come up with. 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: There wasn't a full full number of attendees, but there 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 2: was a korum. But I know that Mick Palmer, Peter 23 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: Pankoi and also Jimmy Boris he voted against changing that 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: he wanted. They wanted to go with the recommendation from 25 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: the council management that they reason it and sell it, 26 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: and the two aldomen the one who represents the ward, 27 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: actually decided that they'd like to see a change to 28 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: a community use and we saw the result of that. 29 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: It was advertised in the paper the other day that 30 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: they were calling for expressions of interest for buying or 31 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: tendering for a community use. And that covered community use, 32 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: that covered the commercial, that recovered the you know all assets, 33 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: all all sort of different areas. That covered just about 34 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: anything you can think of. Now, the problem is this 35 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: is a this is the house that was built for 36 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: the pool staff. And I'll guarantee there's probably some staff 37 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: over there at the pool that having trouble with the 38 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: accommodation and rents and things like that. And there's a 39 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: nice three bedroom house that could be utilized. However, the 40 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: council have decided they will get rid of it. But 41 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: the thing is it's right next to the road Safety center. 42 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: It's just just down the road from you know, people living, 43 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: there's parks. There's problems with the pool behind which is 44 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: a six am start or daylight start. Now, The last 45 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: thing we need is, I guess, a problem center, and 46 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: what's been advertised, it could be anything at all, and 47 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: we don't want things like in action houses or halfway 48 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: houses or temporary accommodation issues, because it's not that sort 49 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: of area and it would bring certainly bring around a 50 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: big social change. And we've seen the problems that have 51 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: occurred around the Prap area, around the Prap shopping center, 52 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: and we don't want to make that more more of 53 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: a center where that's all that disorder behavior and things 54 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: like that. We don't know what it might be. It 55 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: might be a drug rehabilitation center, it might be a 56 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: prison reform set. I don't know, and well, and it. 57 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: Could literally be used as anything. Really is the way. 58 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: That absolutely, And of course the sad thing is that 59 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: the council kept this was a secret meeting. I don't 60 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: know why they have all these secret meetings, and they 61 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: haven't they haven't approached anyone in the area and said 62 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: this is what we're going to do, and you don't 63 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: find out about it till officially, till you read the ad. Luckily, 64 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: we were given some warning and we got a few 65 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: people that have actually found out as well, and they've 66 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: all sort of come together and said, hang on, we 67 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: don't want this. And I don't know what's wrong with 68 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: our council. They're doing things against the public interests and 69 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: all we've got to do is ask themselves a question, 70 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: well this make the environment for what we're doing it 71 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: better or worse. And of course we saw the debarkle 72 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: of this statue sculpture down on Vesty's Beach and that 73 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: was done without total without any consultation with anyone that 74 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: would have had an involvement, and we're seeing the same 75 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: thing here. And I just don't understand why they don't 76 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: talk to the community and find out what people want. 77 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: And you know this, this could be a disaster, especially 78 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: with the young, young people, young people that going to swim, 79 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: going to the road safety center. There's no you know, 80 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: there's this just it doesn't make good sense. 81 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense the why would you go from 82 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: having that place as the pool manager or pool staff 83 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: house to then wanting to make it commercially viable for 84 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: the council as well. I mean you're putting it out 85 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: to tender, and it could go out to tender, like 86 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: you said, it could be a half way house. Could 87 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: be for drug rehab, could be for alcohol rehab, could 88 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: be for prisoners coming out of jail. Why would you 89 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: do that right there in a quiet residential area, but 90 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: also unfortunately an area in perhaps that at different times, 91 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, you do see antisocial behavior as it is 92 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: around near the village. 93 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: Yes, no, look, it doesn't make sense. I guess it's 94 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: like the HbA decision at the dump shop. It shows 95 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: the council is out of touch with the community. And 96 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: I'd really say, I don't know. I think CON's been 97 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: away stick and I think it needs to come back 98 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: and start to think about local residents and put some 99 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: direction back into this. I've got okay, I've named the 100 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: three aldermen that didn't want to see that change. They 101 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: wanted to take the advice of the council's management, and 102 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: of course they've done a lot of research to see 103 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: what the best option would be for counsel. I mean, 104 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: I think the best option is saying to some people 105 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: that are working in the pool or maybe some of 106 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: the junior coaches, would you like to have this house? 107 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 2: I mean it's on the land, it has to be rezoned, 108 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's it's causing problems already and they 109 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: haven't started. So the lack of I mean just the 110 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: lack of information. Well, when these people get elected, they're 111 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: they're saying, yes, well we want to listen to what 112 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: people say, and then you can't even find them. 113 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: So, Daryl, you named the three that were opposed to 114 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: this happening, the ones that wanted to stay a residential place. 115 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: Are you able to tell us the ones that are 116 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: pushing for this to change. 117 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: Well? I could, but at this stage, rather than yep, 118 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 2: we know who they are and they've got a chance 119 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: to redeem themselves. Otherwise there's going to be a number 120 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: of people actively working at the next council election to 121 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: ensure that they're not elected on the basis of they 122 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: don't care about their constituents. They just care got their 123 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,679 Speaker 2: own selfish reasons to do things. I mean, that's really 124 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: what it amounts to. 125 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: I mean, look, you know people are going to be pissed. 126 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: To put it mildly, Darryl, I think that you know, 127 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: it's another own goal. I've got to tell you by 128 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: the council. I just don't understand it. I know Connie 129 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: is off, he's had surgery, so I understand that that 130 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: he's been off having surgery. But you know, to the 131 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: other counselors, it might be listening this morning. People are 132 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: not happy about this, and you know, I can't imagine then, 133 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: the way in which the amenity of the street may 134 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: change based on what they put there. I mean, we 135 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: already even with some very useful and valued services like 136 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: things at the same scale. But people are going to 137 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: be really angry, right. 138 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, we had had a house that was doing 139 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: a pretty good job called running a forward program. However, 140 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: it was located in a residential area and the people 141 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: that were hanging around it were the ones causing all 142 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: the problems, so that the service was good, but the 143 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: location was very, very poor. And the same thing is 144 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: going to happen here unless someone has the ability to 145 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 2: buy it and rezone it. But look, you know yourself, 146 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: when these people are doing things, they've got some ulterior 147 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: motive in mind, and they've probably got some organization lined 148 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: up to do something there, and I don't know, maybe 149 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: that makes them feel good. I think it makes them 150 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 2: feel good to just interrupt good advice and not talk 151 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: to the community but tell I think they like to 152 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: tell the community what to do, not to listen and respond, which. 153 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: I just can't wrap my head around. Go and walk 154 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: down the street and ask people what they would like 155 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: to see happen with that house. It's pretty bloody simple. Yeah, Darryl, 156 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: you know like it beggars believe to me, I don't 157 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: you know like and you know yourself from when you 158 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: you know, from when you're on the radio. You ask 159 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: people what they think. You don't make people's minds up 160 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: for them. You know, you want to actually have that consultation. 161 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: And you don't have to. In Darwin, people will speak. 162 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: Up exactly, Darryl. Before I let you go, Matt Cunninghames 163 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: just text me and said that you are one of 164 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: the stars of his documentary that goes to air this evening. 165 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: Oh well, I've seen the ad and one of the 166 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: things about it, well, I'm in Alice Springs and we're 167 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: down here to present the gold and silvers for the 168 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 2: young people done the Duke of Edinburgh Youth Ward and 169 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: so we're sort of hoping we can get hold and 170 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: watch it though we're it's going to make some inquiries. 171 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: Otherwise I'll be looking on the small screen. I'll have 172 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: the iPad out with the old Foxtel go app on. 173 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: Oh look, I think it's such like I think it's 174 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: such a worthy thing for you know, for that documentary 175 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: to mark the fifty years. Oh and I've no doubt 176 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: that there'll be probably quite a few tears from people 177 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: watching it as well when they sort of for a 178 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: lot of us younger generation too that watch it and realize, 179 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, the devastation, but the way in which you guys, 180 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: you Cyclone Tracy survivors have rebuilt this town. 181 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: Well, it's pretty amazing, is that when you look at 182 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: the what's there, and there's been so many people that 183 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 2: have been contributing in that and resurrected themselves a bit. 184 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: I've found myself talking about it a couple of times 185 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: with people. But you don't really want to remember the 186 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: bad times. You remember the good times. And I think 187 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: that's something that helps you. There's a human trait to 188 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: get about the nasty things, get them out of your mind. 189 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: But we had a lot of people that suffered you'd 190 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: call it post traumatic stress after the cyclone because a 191 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: lot of people would only talk to those that have 192 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: been through it about it. They wouldn't talk to people 193 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: who hadn't gone through the experience because they just didn't understand. 194 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 2: And look, I know it's going to happen again, not 195 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: to the extent possibly of Tracy, but we're going to 196 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: get a big cyclone and I just hope we're ready 197 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: because I know that we're going to lose windows of 198 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: houses and we're going to lose roofing from houses. The 199 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: houses I think will stay up, but I think we're 200 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 2: going to be in a pretty bad way with services 201 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: and you know, just somewhere to live that's dry. You know, 202 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: we need to be aware. That's not something you file 203 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: away in a cupboards and say, well, we're we're prepared. 204 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: We don't have to worry about that one. Now. We 205 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: should be refreshing ourselves every year about what could happen, 206 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: and plan and acquit ourselves for the worst scenario because 207 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 2: when it happens, it's going to really affect us all. 208 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 2: It's too late then, but get organized. 209 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you spot on well, Darryl Mansey. Always appreciate your time. 210 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us again this morning, and let 211 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: us know if there is any updates on this situation in. 212 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: Per ap Indeed, we'll keep your posted, James, Katie, because 213 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: it's a bad lot, keep up the good work. 214 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: No worries at all, Thanks Darryl. Talk soon.