1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: That is so fetch Thank. 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: You, Welcome back to Outspoken. Now. I'm so excited because 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: the three of us are all heading into the weekend 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: fully backs, and I feel like it's about time. Oh, 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: it's such a great feeling. And I actually really enjoyed 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: my appointment because my nurse was so nice. I came 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: in and she spotted my engagement ring and her daughter 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: had recently got married, so we got on the topic 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: of weddings and it got to the point where I 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: didn't even realize I had had my jab and then 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: we were just talking and talking, and it was that 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: awkward moment where I'm like, should I leave because I'm 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: actually really enjoying this conversation. Mine wasn't as pleasant because 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: it hurt a little bit the second time. The first 20 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: time didn't feel it at all, but actually weded me 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: of some advice my little cousin gave me. He's like, 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: now when you go in when they're doing the injection, 23 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: just make sure you go on your phone to distract yourself. 24 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: And I was like, I think I'm gonna be vie. 25 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: I'd find that more awkward that you're so socially inep 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: that you can't talk to the person doing the injection. 27 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: I also think it would make you tense up more 28 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: because you've told that you have to have like a 29 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: very loose arm, so that's why it doesn't hurt. But yeah, 30 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: I had a really good experience as well. I went 31 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: with Brandon, and basically every time we've well the two 32 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: times we've been, he's pulled a face right before the 33 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: lady gives him the injection, and it's always just makes 34 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: me laugh and makes the situation a bit funnier. Did 35 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 1: you and Brandon have that conversation about who's going first? 36 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: Because whenever I'm getting my flu shot and I go 37 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: with Reese, I always want to go first. I don't 38 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: want to be that mug that's sitting there waiting for 39 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: the other person to get their injection. 40 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 41 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: Well, the first vaccination I got first because I was 42 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: feeling similarly about it. But then the second time round, 43 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: the lady had his notes, so he went first and 44 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: I actually found it better because I didn't freak out 45 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: as much because he fun well. Moving on, it's been 46 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: a massive couple of days in Victoria. Not only have 47 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: they had those terrible riots going on, but they had 48 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: an earthquake on Wednesday morning. When I first saw this 49 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: pop up on social media, I was thinking, oh, it's 50 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: probably been a tiny tremor, nothing's really happened, a bit 51 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: of overkill, and then I saw that it was a 52 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: five point nine magnitude earthquake. Yeah, there was actually some 53 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: building's damage, which really surprised me because there was an 54 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: earthquake in Adelaide a couple of years ago. It was 55 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: sort of like you didn't even know if something had 56 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: actually happened or you imagined it and yeah, as you said, 57 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: so that's what I thought it was like in Victoria. Well, 58 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: I feel like so many people in Australia aren't used 59 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: to earthquake, so nobody really knows how to react. So 60 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: influencer Beck Lomas has revealed she was so shocked by 61 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: Melbourne's five point nine magnitude earthquake on Wednesday morning that 62 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: she ended up running into a glass door while trying 63 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: to escape her home. So she was in a Zoom 64 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: meeting and the room started moving, so she grabbed her 65 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: dog and she ran out of the room. So she 66 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: obviously I thought the door was open. I think we 67 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: should have a listen to what Beck said on an 68 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: Instagram story. 69 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you guys just felt that earthquake 70 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: in Melbourne. And I don't actually know what to do 71 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: during an earthquake situation because we never get them like ever. 72 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: And I was on a Zoom call at the time, 73 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: and I wigged the fuck out and I was like, 74 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: I gotta get it outside because I thought the building 75 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: was gonna come down or something. And I picked Hansel up, 76 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: I had him under my arm and I just like 77 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: pissed bolted to go outside, but instead I ran into 78 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: our glass door. 79 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: That's great, poor hands Low. He was terrified and so 80 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: was I. Anyway, I don't know what he's supposed to 81 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 3: do during an earthquake, but I don't think it's that. 82 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: My head hurts now. 83 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if you can guys can see this, 84 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: but that is. 85 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 4: Where my face hit the door. 86 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: So the video shows Beck's glass door completely cracked at 87 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: the bottom, so it almost looks like a bullet has 88 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: gone through the glass. And you can also see her 89 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: lipstick imprint on the glass, so she's actually face planted 90 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: into the glass. But impressively, a glazier was able to 91 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: fix the door within an hour. I have to say 92 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: I would have no issue with my slarting door because 93 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: it is absolutely filthy. It has dog poor prints all 94 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: over it. Her glass was immaculate and dangerously immaculated dangerously. 95 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: I also love the fact that she said that she 96 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: wigged out during the zoom call. I've not heard people 97 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: use that term for a while. Well, the whole it's 98 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: a young I think it's a young person term. So 99 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: if you're really showing your age, maybe that's why I 100 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: haven't heard it. So it's going to start saying it 101 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: now in every conversation the whole back Lomss then got 102 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: me thinking about times that we have all overreacted in 103 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: emergency situations, and I feel like the biggest overreact. I mean, 104 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: Sophie normally overreacts to everything. But I do remember I 105 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: think we're about sixteen, and we were sitting and watching 106 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: the brownlow Metal No, it was not the Brownlow Metal. 107 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: It was the footy show. And you and I we 108 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: were sitting in front of how would you describe it 109 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: as a gas heater? So do you know what I 110 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: love already? You were not even sitting by the heater. 111 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: I just was no lying in front of it. We 112 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: were both lying in front of it, and you I 113 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: was lying in front of them. No, we were both 114 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: lying in front of it. And you were playing with 115 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: the with the door of the heater andinge. So basically 116 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: it's one of those wall heaters, and it had this 117 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: little door that you had to pull open to be 118 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: able to turn the heater up, and it was sort 119 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: of like loose on a hinge anyway, So you were 120 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: playing with it, and I mean, how unsafe is this? 121 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: There was a can of deodor and on the ground 122 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: in front of the heater, and the door fell off 123 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: and pursed piers fell off and pierced the bottle, and 124 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: there was this huge like fabre And my first reaction was, 125 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: don't worry about everyone. I literally just ran out of 126 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: the room and least everyone there. It reminded me very 127 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: much of George Costanza on Sign Felt in the incident 128 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: where he's at a children's birthday party and a fire 129 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: breaks out and he literally pushes all the women and 130 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: children out the way. That's yously, that was me. That 131 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: actually reminds me of another story involving fire. So at 132 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: my first job as a copywriter, I was working at 133 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: this company whose office was actually an old house, so 134 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: they had this old school kitchen and I decided to 135 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: cook pasta for lunch. So I had a saucepan on 136 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: the stove and I turned it on. However, I actually 137 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: got the wrong hot plate and there was a plastic 138 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: kettle on the hot plate plugged into the wall that 139 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: I had turned the heat on. So it started to 140 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: melt and it will burn and set a light, and 141 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: it was attached, as I said, to the PowerPoint. So 142 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: it then started to spread and my ex boyfriend was 143 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: working with me and he came in and saw it 144 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: and instead of like doing anything, he just decided to 145 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: run out of the building as. 146 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 4: A little bit. 147 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: So what happened, So we actually got one of the 148 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: web developers to help us, because it was just the 149 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: three of us in the office at the time, and 150 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: he just like strolled in very cash and then just 151 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: hit the kettle off the stove with this thing, and 152 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: then were called the fire brigade, but that actually caused 153 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: the fire to go out, so three fire trucks turned 154 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: up to the office. 155 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: It was so embarrassing. 156 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: Well, on the topic of fires, I was sitting watching 157 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: TV the other night and I had lit a candle 158 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: and my cat walked past the coffee table, which was 159 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: quite low, and her tail managed to catch a light 160 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: from the flame on the candle. And thankfully, my first 161 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: reaction was not to run out of the room. My 162 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: first reaction was to put the fire out with my hand. 163 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: So I just like grabbed her tail. No, it didn't 164 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: at all, It did not hurt at all, and I 165 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: don't even think she realized. 166 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: That her tail was a light. 167 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: Well, that's actually happened to shadow before. And the fur 168 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: absolutely stinks like they've got no idea. It reminds me 169 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: of when your fringe caught on fire. That pissed me off. 170 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: That was only last year. And for anyone who knows me, 171 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: I am desperately trying to grow my hair and get 172 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: it healthy, and I for some reason, I had it down, 173 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: which I never do because I'm trying. 174 00:07:59,160 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: Not to straighten it. 175 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: Anyway, I bend down to blow out the candle and 176 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: a piece of my hair caught a lot. 177 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 5: There was an inferno, in an inferno, I was trying 178 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 5: to lead the way. We needed a leader, someone to 179 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 5: lead the way their safety. 180 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: But you yelled get out of my. 181 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 5: Way, because because as the leader, if I die, then 182 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 5: all hope is lost. Instead of castigating me, you should 183 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 5: all be thanking me. What kind of a CAPSI Turby 184 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 5: world do we live in? Where heroes cast is villains 185 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 5: brave men as cowards. 186 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: Sarah's Day has announced she's expecting baby number two with 187 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: husband Kurt Tills. The announcement was met with joy, but 188 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: also some confusion. Sophy, can you fill us in what's 189 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: been going on? Yeah? So, Sarah made an announcement by 190 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: posting a two minute YouTube video entitled We're having a baby. 191 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: And basically the video was very much a Khylie Jenner 192 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: sort of vibe. It was based off an old VHS tape. 193 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: There was glitching during the video. It started with this 194 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: pink background and all we heard was Fox's voice saying 195 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: hello baby and I love you. That was pretty cute. 196 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: That was cute. It's funny that you say that it 197 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: was like Kylie Jenner's video because I didn't actually put 198 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: two and two together, and the whole time I was 199 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: thinking it seemed quite familiar. But that is so spot 200 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: on because Kylie Jenner showed all those little snippets of 201 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and that really was the vibe, because 202 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: when I originally watched the video, I was like, Wow, 203 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: this is so different to the announcement of Fox. I 204 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: gotta love how the old VHS style is sort of 205 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: seen as being really really cool and not crap anymore. Well, 206 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: it was really confusing because they also had in the 207 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: corner of the video. Anyone who's in the eighties or 208 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: nineties baby will remember the date is always in the 209 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: corner of the video, and so they had a couple 210 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: of different dates listed. So one date said the twenty 211 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: first of January nineteen ninety three, So I'm speculating that 212 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: perhaps this was the date that Sarah was conceived. I 213 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: think it could be spot on because the dates kind 214 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: of match up with Sarah celebrating her birthday in late August, 215 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: and then later on in the clip there is a 216 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: date that is January twenty first, nineteen eighty nine, and 217 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: that could possibly be Kurt's conception date. The confusing thing 218 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: is that there was also a third date, which was 219 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: May tenth, nineteen ninety two, So that one's a little 220 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: bit more confusing. What did they do ring up their 221 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: parents and say when did you guys conceive me? No, well, 222 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: they're just subtracting nine months from their birthday. 223 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 4: Really. 224 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: When we get further into the video, there's a montage 225 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: of baby bumps, so we see Kurt kissing the bump, 226 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: we see the bump on the side, and a lot 227 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: of people were shocked how pregnant she was because she 228 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: has been uploading daily Instagram stories and she's also been 229 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: getting her followers to join her as she embarks on 230 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: her second ebook challenge, and this is ahead of her 231 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: launching her third e book in a couple of weeks, 232 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: and videos she's got her rock card aps going on. 233 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: We don't see any sort of hint of a baby bump, 234 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: so people were speculating that perhaps she shot a lot 235 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: of these videos ahead of time. Yeah, Well, she squashed 236 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: any of those rumors that she had pre recorded the footage. 237 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: She said that she's not organized enough to do that, 238 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: and she actually went on her Instagram story and showed 239 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: how she was managing to suck her pregnant belly in basically, 240 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: and it was very It was it was weird to 241 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: watch because you really could not tell that she was 242 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: pregnant the way she had manipulated her body, which again 243 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: is pretty interesting because it just shows how deceptive Instagram 244 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: can be around body image. That's exactly right, that's the 245 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: first thing I thought of. I was like, wow, you 246 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: can really move and contort your body around to make 247 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: it look completely different. Well, back to the video, there's 248 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: a lot of religious references made throughout it, so we 249 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: hear Sarah thanking Jesus for this news. There's also a 250 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: number of different Bible versus referenced, and these are all 251 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: so referenced in the caption to the YouTube video. So 252 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: she wrote to the incredible life that has taught us 253 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: so much already, We promised to protect, love, and nurture 254 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: you for all of the days of our lives. God 255 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: has nitched you together in this image fearfully and wonderfully. 256 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: You have already touched so many lives and have been 257 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: a blessing upon our family in such a short time. 258 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: We can't wait to meet you earthside. It seems like 259 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: only the last year or so that Sarah has been 260 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: sharing a lot more about her Christianity. I feel like 261 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: because it was a real feature in her wedding video, 262 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: and now I feel like it's becoming more and more a. 263 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 4: Focus of her vlogs. 264 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were speculating that that 265 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: possibly could be to tap into the American market because 266 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: they're very religious over there. Well, what did you guys 267 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: think of Sarah and Kurt's reaction? Because she was quick 268 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: to jump on her Insta story to tell fans more 269 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: about the pregnancy. I felt like her mood completely changed. 270 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: She looked really elated and really keen to open up 271 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, she said that she has already 272 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: filmed all these videos about her finding out that she 273 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: was pregnant, her telling Kurt, so it seems like she 274 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: has a lot of banked up content ready to share. Well, 275 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: she also shared a couple of photos. So she revealed 276 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 1: that Kurt was allowed to come to the first ultrasound, 277 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: but since then, due to the restrictions, she's had to 278 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: go and do it on her own. She also revealed 279 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: that she's been having some interesting pregnancy craving, so it 280 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: kind of shocked me. She said that her pregnancy craving 281 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: was salt and vinegar chips. I don't think I can 282 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,599 Speaker 1: even imagine her eating a chip. I thought it was 283 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: going to be something healthy. This makes total sense because 284 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: I was listening to the Health Code the other day 285 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: and I had a full episode talking about how they've 286 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: been eating hot chip bodies, so like, you know, chips 287 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: within a soundwich. And I was thinking, what, like, as 288 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: if she'd ever eat those. Yeah, but I don't think 289 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: that's the only sign people her agents have thought she 290 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: was pregnant. I mean, she accidentally shared that Instagram story 291 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: with the comment open that I'm eight weeks today, and 292 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people have got on back and done 293 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: the sums and worked out that it fits in with 294 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: the pregnancy timeline at the moment. Yes, okay, as you 295 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: touched on, I feel like we've almost got to go 296 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: through a bit of a timeline because as well as 297 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: there being an outpouring of support from fans who were 298 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: ecstatic about the baby news, it's also been met with 299 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: some confusion. So as you touched on, Sarah was accused 300 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: of leaking pregnancy details in an attempt to divert attention 301 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: away from a hack segment that criticized her. So she 302 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: said an Instagram story in which her Facebook messenger conversation 303 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: could be read, and it said sick the past two 304 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: as well as eight weeks today. So this has obviously 305 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: sparked a lot of the pregnancy rumors around Sarah. And 306 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: then in late August, Sarah announced that she was taking 307 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: a break from social media. She wrote, be right back, 308 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: just having a little social media break for the past 309 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: two days and maybe tomorrow. Love you well, let's be honest. 310 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: Her break was pretty short lived. She returned the next day, 311 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: sharing a photo of her reading the Bible, and she 312 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: wrote where I go when no one can answer my 313 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: questions or make sense of our circumstance. She then shared 314 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: a post saying to be as open as my heart 315 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: will let me be. Right now, I have chosen to 316 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: openly admit that I am not okay and I'm going 317 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: through some personal things right now. Maybe someday I will 318 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: open up about it, maybe not. I'm not even thinking 319 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: about that right now. I don't want you to feel 320 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: sorry for me, but I would appreciate prayer for peace 321 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: and clarity for our little family. This is not about 322 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: lockdown's COVID vaccinations or anything of that nature, She continued, saying, Honestly, 323 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm not coping well and I can't jump on stories 324 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: and be my normal self. I never want to be 325 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: fake happy or bubbly. It's also not the kind of 326 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: thing I want to talk about or want other's opinions on. 327 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm genuinely sorry for being somewhat secretive and confusing, but 328 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: I am only comprehending my emotions right now and don't 329 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: feel like sharing with the entire world when I'm emotionally 330 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: exhausted and confused. 331 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: Well. 332 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: Despite saying she would stay quiet on the matter, Sarah 333 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: continued to post about her day, saying it was important 334 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: to give herself a few days to cry, spiral a little, 335 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: and feel confused, angry, and sit on the couch or 336 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: in bed for seventy two hours and not move. She 337 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: then went on to say that she wanted to forget 338 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: the reality and try to act and feel normal, and 339 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: explained that being online is normal for her, and I 340 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: think a lot of people questioned that because there were 341 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: a lot of mixed messaging in terms of saying that 342 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: she was going to take a break from social media 343 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: and then jumping back on but not actually addressing what 344 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: was going on. I think left people feeling out of 345 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: the loop. And I think when you share your whole 346 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: life online, people think that they deserve to know what's 347 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: going on, and that sparked a lot of speculation. I've 348 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: had a lot of the content really confronting and ultra personal. 349 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: So she shared a video of herself cradling Fox whilst 350 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: crying and they were both listening to worship music. I 351 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: just felt like some of these details could have been 352 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: left offline, and they also led to more conversations and 353 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: speculation about what was going on in such a private time. Yeah, 354 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of the speculation was that Sarah had 355 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: had a miscarriage, and I think there was a lot 356 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: of simpleath online for Sarah's day because people who had 357 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: gone through something similar sympathized with her. And now a 358 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: lot of people have been quite confused now that she's 359 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: come out with the baby announcement, you know, as you say, 360 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: there were a number of different rumors circulating. One rumor 361 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 1: also was that Kurt had cheated on Sarah, and that 362 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: rumor was swiftly shot down, So a lot of people 363 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: were confused as to why this miscarriage rumor wasn't put 364 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: to bed, because it is a situation that is very 365 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: sensitive for a lot of women and can be very triggering. 366 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: There are so many reasons why. I mean, a lot 367 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: of people have said perhaps she didn't want to address 368 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: any rumors relating to miscarriages or pregnancy because she didn't 369 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: feel comfortable revealing the fact that she was in fact 370 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: pregnant at the time, And I think it's very sad 371 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: that there are rumors and speculation around these sort of 372 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: moments in women's life. But then again, I think it 373 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: is a difficult one because Sarah does choose to share 374 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: a lot of this information about herself online, so that 375 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: really does lead to speculation and people feeling invested and 376 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: wanting to know more, and I think that many people 377 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: perceive these posts as kind of baiting people's interests. Yeah, 378 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: there has been a lot of talk about saying that 379 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: she was baiting a miscarriage, and it's really hard to 380 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: even comment on it because we don't know what this 381 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: private moment is that Sarah and Kurt are going to 382 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: reveal later. While Sarah didn't acknowledge any of the miscarriage 383 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: rumors before her pregnancy announcement. She did jump in on 384 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: the comments on her announcement video to clear things up, 385 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: and she said, thank you for your kind words and encouragement. 386 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: Thankfully we have not experienced any miscarriages along our journey. 387 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: We are still dealing with some sensitive things, but as 388 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: I keep saying, we will open up when we are ready. 389 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: I think this whole topic is a very awkward one 390 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 1: to talk about publicly because traditionally miscarriage has been very 391 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: taboo to talk about, and there's a shift in behavior 392 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: where more women are trying to normalize it, which is great. However, 393 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: it's still something that people feel quite uncomfortable about and 394 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: it quite triggering as well. And I think the thing 395 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: is it's so conflicting because Sarah shares her whole life 396 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: online and she's monetized a lot of big moments in 397 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: her life. 398 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 4: She's filmed the birth of her son. 399 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: She I mean, she filmed the moment she found out 400 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: she was pregnant and this was a shock pregnancy a 401 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and she even filmed the fact 402 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: that she wasn't really sure how she felt about that 403 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: and put it all online. So I can see why 404 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: people feel entitled to know, particularly because she seems to 405 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: keep talking about it but then pulling back and not 406 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: really telling people what it's about. And she's been accused 407 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: of doing this for engagement online, and I don't I really. 408 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 4: Hope that it's not being used for engagement. 409 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: I don't think it is, but I can see why 410 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: people would be speculating that. 411 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 412 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: I think the thing that you touched on Kate though, too, 413 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: is that it is an incredibly sensitive and private topic, 414 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: and I think that we all need to put out 415 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: there that we all don't know what is going on 416 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: in their life, and it could be something that is 417 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: ongoing or something that they themselves don't have answers to yet. 418 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it could be some sort of abnormality or 419 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: something like that that they're dealing with or don't have 420 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: the answers too. So I think that that's probably why 421 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: they're not revealing what has happened yet. So I think 422 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: that everyone needs to tread with a bit of caution 423 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: and care because it must be a very difficult time 424 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: in their lives, and although they do choose to put 425 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: themselves out there online, I feel like people do need 426 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: to remember that they are real people at the end 427 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: of the day. It actually reminds me of that time 428 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: there was a YouTube family. I'm not sure what their 429 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: name was, but they went quite viral because they adopted 430 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: a child with special needs and then weren't able to 431 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: care for them, and they had documented the whole adoption process, 432 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: and then suddenly this child wasn't in any of their 433 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: videos and they had to come out and explain why. 434 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: And I just think it shows how difficult it is 435 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: to share your life so publicly when you have a family, 436 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: particularly when you're sharing everything that your kids do online. Well, 437 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: Sarah has revealed that this is something that she and 438 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: Kurt are going to address, and it will be very 439 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: interesting to see how she and Kurt do address it, 440 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: because I feel like people are quite upset about this, 441 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: and if people don't deem this issue that they've faced 442 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: as being something serious enough, I feel like they're going 443 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: to be out for Sarah. 444 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: Well. 445 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: That being said, I do think that any sort of 446 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: pregnancy announcement is an exciting time, and I feel like 447 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: I really do hope that they get their time to 448 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: bask in the happiness of what this is and we 449 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: do obviously wish them. 450 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 4: All the best with it, Yeah, exactly right. 451 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: And just to wrap it up on a high note, 452 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: I have a feeling this is going to be a 453 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: girl because in the YouTube video she opened with a 454 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: pink screen, and some followers have picked up that Kurt 455 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: keeps saying, yeah, the girls. I definitely think it's a girl. 456 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 4: That's like a violation, that's very muggy. 457 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: That's like a statement saying you're a prick. I'm not 458 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: gonna let someone take me for a pregnant way. In 459 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: a Q and A on her instance store, Orry, Chloe 460 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: Zepp has revealed the lessons she has learned since receiving 461 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: backlash about her anti VAXX views. The twenty two year 462 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: old shared an update on her relationship with baby daddy 463 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: Mitch Orville and plans for baby number two. So, Kate, 464 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: what was the update about Mitch? 465 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 4: Well, Chloe was very. 466 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: Vague about Mitch. A follower asked her, how is your 467 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: relationship now with Mitch, and she replied with a photo 468 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: of her and Mitch and simply wrote we are going well, 469 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: followed by a rainbow star and love her emojis. I 470 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: love that you include all of the emojis, ingate, Well, 471 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: I think it's important for Toneina love heart does symbolize 472 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: that she's talking about their romantic relationship. But I do 473 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: think it's interesting that she didn't really address any of 474 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: the breakup rumors, particularly because they've been so apparent in 475 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: their recent YouTube videos and clearly Mitch has been putting 476 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: himself crying on his own Instagram story, so we all 477 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: know that there's something going on, and I feel like, 478 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I might be reading into this too much, 479 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: but being so short with her response kind of show 480 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 1: that there is more going on behind the scenes. 481 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: Well. 482 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: Another follower wrote, miss your presence on YouTube, but understand 483 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: putting yourself first is important, to which Chloe responded, we 484 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: miss our YouTube fam just focusing on family and a 485 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: little bit of privacy at the moment. Again, I think 486 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: this is a sign that they're going through a lot 487 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: in their relationship, because why else would they not be 488 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: posting YouTube videos. It kind of has calmed down since 489 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: all of that anti VAX's backlash happened in the mainstream media, 490 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: and I would have thought Mitch would have shared a 491 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: video by now, But I think something seriously must be 492 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes because they usually do go 493 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: ghost a little bit when these sorts of things happen 494 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: and then come back with. 495 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 4: An update video. 496 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: So I'm expecting some sort of Q and a video 497 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: to explain what's been going on. I don't I think 498 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: they've just come back on and pretend nothing's happened. That 499 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: seems to be a bit of their default. They've addressed 500 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 1: their breakup before, though, and I think that they're pretty 501 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: open on their YouTube channel about it. I actually don't 502 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: think that it's just all to do with their relationship 503 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: breakdown them stepping away from YouTube. I think it's more 504 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: about the backlash from the anti vax stuff that's been 505 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: going on. On the topic of the anti vax stuff, 506 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: Chloe did respond to a comment asking her about the backlash, 507 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: so a follower asked, how are you dealing with all 508 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 1: the backlash? It's annoying me so much for you, and 509 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: she wrote, it's been a good lesson for me. It 510 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: made me implement some serious social media boundaries that have 511 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: in turn brought me more happiness. I'm so much more 512 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: than just what I post and who I am to 513 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 1: the world. My worth is absolutely not measured by what 514 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: others think of me anymore. That's a huge lesson I've 515 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: been in the public eye since I was fifteen, so 516 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: I've grown up sharing the ins and outs of my 517 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: life getting validation from strangers, and it's not healthy. I'm 518 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: not my social media, I'm not my followers, I'm not 519 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: my likes. My social media is a tiny part of 520 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: my life. What I choose to share or teach based 521 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: on personal experience. So now I see it in such 522 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: a different way. I'm almost glad it happened. All part 523 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: of the journey into me becoming whole on my own. 524 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: What did you guys think about this? Well, let's be honest, 525 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: social media is not a small part of her life 526 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: because social media funds her whole lifestyle. So I think 527 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: this comment probably rubbed a lot of people up the 528 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: wrong way. Well, social media is her job, so unfortunately, 529 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,959 Speaker 1: even if you don't like your job, it's always going 530 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: to be a massive part of your life, and I 531 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: think it really plays into your identity what you do 532 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: every day. Well, there's a couple of people on our 533 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: Facebook community said, well, if you don't like it, why 534 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: don't you delete your whole account and start up your 535 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: own private account and share your memories and stuff on there. 536 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: As you guys have touched on that's clearly not going 537 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: to happen because of the huge amounts of money they're 538 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: making off sharing their life and having a platform. Yeah, 539 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: and I also think it's a bit of a cop 540 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: out response because she doesn't actually acknowledge any of the 541 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: wrongdoing of, you know, posting online, her not wearing a 542 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: mask and breaking COVID rules along those lines. But she's 543 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 1: kind of turned into more what she's learned about not 544 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: oversharing online. It kind of seems like she's playing the 545 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: victim in it, like, yeah, I'm kind of glad it happened. 546 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: I also find the way she worded her life in 547 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: the public eye is interesting. It was almost as though 548 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: she was acting like she was some sort of child 549 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: star that had been thrust into the spotlight, despite the 550 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: fact that she was the one, at the age of 551 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: fifteen who chose to put herself there. Yeah but she's fifteen, 552 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: so yeah, but that's not like your some five year 553 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: old who doesn't know what's going on. Yeah, but he's 554 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: still young. Yeah. But she made the choice to be 555 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: on the platform and share her lives. And the whole 556 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: thing about being an influencer is that you get money 557 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: from sharing the ins and outs of your life. It's 558 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: not like she's an actor. When you want to become 559 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: an actor, you don't think, oh, all my personal life 560 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: is going to be pride into. That's just a byproduct 561 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: of that business. Unfortunately, it is quite amusing that all 562 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: of the people who are big social media uses as teenagers, 563 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: like Chloe and now turning against the platform that's made 564 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: them big. So they're all like, no, I just want 565 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: a phone that only calls my child, and well, it's 566 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: kind of cool, now, isn't it to be like I 567 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: don't care about this and stuff. I'm going to have 568 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: to tell Dale he's cool because he's always said he 569 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: wants to go back to like a nockier phone that 570 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: only makes phone calls and doesn't have social media on 571 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: it yet. Then he will have a huge platform of 572 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: a million followers that he somehow drip feeds compact too. Well. 573 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: I think that's all we've got time for today. 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