WEBVTT - Pixelated Kids & Frozen Sandwiches 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:05.120 Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:08.760 hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.760 Sophie Tuba and I'm Amy Torber and coming up on 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:16.439 today's show, why Matt Zukowski savagely uninvited friends to his 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:20.560 upcoming wedding to Tammy Hembro, the Frozen Sandwich debate, dividing 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:23.640 the Internet, and our highs and lows of the week. 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:27.880 But first, fitness influencer and entrepreneur Steph Claire Smith has 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:30.960 been forced to defend her decision to blur her son's 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:34.080 face on social media. Yeah so. Over the weekend, Steph 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:36.960 uploaded a video of her and her husband Josh Miller, 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.680 taking Harvey, who's three years old, to a monster truck show. 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:43.960 It was a really cute real but all I could 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:47.839 focus on was Harvey's pixelated face. It almost looked like 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:49.800 he was on the news and he'd been accused of 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.680 a crime or in witness protection because it switched between 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:58.120 his whole face being pixelated or a large emoji. And 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.640 it was quite funny because at one moment and everything 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:03.080 disappeared and you could clearly see his face. I also 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.959 noticed the blur moved at one point to a man 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:07.960 who was sitting behind them. I was like, why is 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:11.280 going on here? And as somebody who does video editing, 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:15.320 it actually takes a lot of time to pixelate people's 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:19.479 faces because you have to keep moving where the pixelation goes. Yeah, 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.639 definitely makes it more complicated. Now, this is, of course, 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:26.400 off the back of Steph announcing last week that going forward, 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.320 she would no longer be sharing Harvey's face online, and 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.440 the decision was sparked by Harvey being recognized in the 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:36.160 street by strangers. So when he wasn't with Steph and Josh, 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.600 when he was in childcare or he was with his grandparents, 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:41.680 Rando's would come up to him and be like, hey, Harvey, 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.160 which would be so creepy. Well, last week we were 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:47.560 debating how Steph and Josh would navigate no longer including 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.360 Harvey and their vision. I just assumed that she was 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:53.600 going to keep him off socials altogether, but no, they've 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:56.480 decided to go with the pixelation, which has elicited a 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.880 huge response from Steph's followers, and I think it's partly 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.800 because it's one of the first times that we've seen 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:07.680 a local influencer conceal their child's face in this way. Now. 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:12.000 While some followers commended Steph's steps to protect her son's privacy, 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:16.000 the vast majority seemed very confused by this approach, particularly 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:20.000 those who had missed her updates about it. So one 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.839 follower tagged her friends under the post and said, oh 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:26.480 my god, Nah, that's it. I'm done. Blurred face has 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:29.800 done it for me, whilst another said it's literally three 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.000 years too late. All you have to do is go 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.480 back through her page. Are the three thousand photos and 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.440 videos of him. People know who she is, they know 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.480 who he is. Blurring his face won't make a difference, 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.639 not now now. One of Steph's followers jumped to her 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:46.440 defense and wrote back, it's all about consent, right. You 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:48.520 may have said yes to it before, but you have 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.280 every right to change your mind and people should respect 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.200 that a yes before doesn't mean a yes every time. 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.840 And I tend to agree with this now. Steph was 0:02:56.880 --> 0:03:00.400 really visibly upset and frustrated by the critic, and she 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.040 responded to the negativity by saying this. 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.560 It absolutely baffles me how people feel like they can 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:11.120 absolutely chime in to your life and your choices. I 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.440 understand that there's photos and stuff of him up there 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.440 from the past. Intention was not to erase him completely 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:21.320 from the Internet. It was to avoid putting up anything 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:24.880 from now as he's growing into as he looks like 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.520 a little boy. Whether or not you agree with what 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:31.240 we're doing that is totally up to you. But I'm 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.840 so sick of it. I'm so sick of people's judgment 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.840 on our decisions for our family. If it's not what 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:43.960 you would do, that's fine. I've been avoiding ping contact 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.520 of his face and that's been fine. That monster truck 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.600 video was really special to me. It was really fun 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.280 outing as a family. I really wanted to be able 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:57.840 to share it as like the cutest reactions from Harvey 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.600 and we had the best time. And so the way 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.080 I talk to sharing that was blurring out his face. 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:05.080 That might not make sense to a lot of you 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.960 who has seen his face on social media before, but 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:12.640 it's what we've decided to do. So maybe I'll just 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:16.040 go back to not putting him up much at all. 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.760 This is a really hard one because I can see 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.040 both sides. I think that parenting in this digital age, 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.159 particularly when you have a large following like Steph, would 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.640 be really tough to navigate, and I truly think that 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.560 people do have the right to change their mind and 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:34.240 put boundaries in place to protect their children. However, I 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.320 can see why this elicited such a big response because 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:41.280 it was really jarring and confusing to Steph's followers who 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:45.600 missed these original posts about it, and it just looked ridiculous. 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.440 But on Steph's comment about it was a really cute 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.960 video because of the way Harvey was reacting, we couldn't 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.800 see his reactions because his whole face was pixelated, And 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.040 that's the issue I think with this video is that 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:59.919 there was no point in sharing it because the Picks 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:04.320 took away from this fun family day. It was so distracting. 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.040 I think, moving forward, if they don't want to share 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:10.799 Harvey online, which is one hundred percent fine, maybe choose 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:13.400 other content to share that doesn't involve him. The thing is, 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.840 because we've already had all of this access to his 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:19.760 life for three years. To someone who hasn't seen her updates, 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.000 they're sort of like, oh my god, what has happened 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.280 to him? Why is he suddenly being blurred like you're 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:28.720 just comical? Didn't Yeah, the thing that's concerning is that 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:33.520 if suddenly every child's face is pixelated and blurred, or 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:37.320 mummy bloggers suddenly cut children out of their content, where 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:41.919 are we seeing real life parenting play out? Because for me, 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.119 I don't have children yet, but I think it's really 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:49.040 worthwhile to see the realities of parenting and hear about 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.320 what it's like instead of being fed the highlight reel 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.160 all o the time, I have to see their face constantly. 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.279 I mean, there's also the other debate about, I suppose 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.200 the safety of the children and how much information is 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.640 being shared about them online. I understand that you don't 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:07.320 want to totally eraise mother's and father's experiences, but is 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.839 it that necessary for us to see Harvey's reaction to 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:11.719 the monster trucks or could we just see that they're 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:13.400 on a family day out and here's the back of 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.800 his head, and Steph could explain what they'd gotten. Also, 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.919 because all we saw was her reaction, that's what yeah, yeah, 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:20.440 and that's what it seemed like she wanted to put 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.960 out there. I can also see why people are questioning 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.960 why she hasn't got rid of the other photos of 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:28.960 Harvey in her feed. I mean, I'm not suggesting that 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.560 she has to go back and delete three years of content, 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.479 but you might remove the stuff from this year because 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.479 she said, oh, he's growing into a young boy, his 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.800 features are becoming more recognizable. We'll then go back and 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.520 delete the recent photos of him. That would make a 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:46.320 lot more sense. But maybe it's just a decision they've 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:49.640 made from this point forward. We've both agreed as parents 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.680 that we're not going to share his face anymore. Obviously 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:53.960 he's going to change over the next couple of years. 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.480 But it seems to me that they've just gone from 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.520 now on, we're doing it. Do you know What's funny? Though, 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.560 no one's having a crack at and saying, oh, he 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:03.599 better go and delete all of the photos of Harvey, 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:05.279 Like I hope he's not going to be making Harvey 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.160 baby chinos and have Harvey's face blurred as he drinks there. 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:11.480 That's just the odd thing about it. I'm really interesting 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:15.240 to see how Steph navigates this. Now, will the blur continue? 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:17.679 I don't think it will. Do you know what? Seeing 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.160 that blur actually reminded me of when I used to 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.200 work it today tonight, and I used to feel so 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.760 bad for the editors because, as I said, It's quite 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:28.240 a lengthy task to actually blur someone's face because you 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.080 have to keep moving the blur. And I remember there 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.880 was a story and this man's face had to be 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:37.360 blurred for legal reasons, and in one scene the editor 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.720 missed the blur. So this ten minute was like blur, blow, blur, 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:43.640 and then it just dropped off. Oh my god. I 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.480 do think it sends a strong message to her followers though, 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.640 because this has been covered in a lot of mainstream 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:53.600 media publications, that she's wanting to conceal his identity because 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.280 people have been coming up to him. Now, when people 0:07:56.360 --> 0:08:00.400 see Steph, Josh and Harvey on the street, they know 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:02.360 not to come up and say hello. 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.160 It's pretty savage, like that's red hot from you. 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:06.080 It's a wedding. 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:10.360 Matt Szakowski says he was forced to uninvite guests from 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:14.200 his upcoming wedding to Tammy Hembro due to numbers being 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.840 too tight. Talking on his podcast alongside his co host 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:21.240 Anna mcavoyd, he revealed his mates were upset when he 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.280 cut their girlfriends from the list. 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.280 Are people asking for more plus ones? 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.560 Not really a couple? They know that the list is 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:34.319 really tight, Ye, Like I've leaned it up. I actually, 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.320 originally this sounds shit. Has invited a lot of my 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.120 mates girlfriends that I know and I've known for years. 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.880 And then I had to send him a message saying, hey, 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.480 I've had to lean up the list. They're not like 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.160 I have to uninvite, Like, sorry, dude, that's me. One 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.840 of my mates was pretty up mortified. Yeah, because but 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:53.600 we hadn't handed out the invitation yet. 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:55.440 Sorry, so you hadn't. 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:59.760 I'd asked for names and addresses, full names, spelling of theirs. 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.520 If they're and they just assumed their partners have been back. 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:02.800 Yeah. 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.040 So one of my mates is pretty savage, like, that's 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.959 red hot from me. It's wedding, It's the wedding of 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:09.920 the year, baby. 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.160 How pissed off would you be if you were one 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:15.560 of these girlfriends. You'd probably been telling everybody you're going 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.559 to the wedding of the year, going to Tammy and Matt's, 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.640 only to find out last minute that you have been 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:24.160 bumped from the invite list, especially because this is a 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:27.040 destination wedding and all of Matt's friends and family are 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.720 in Melbourne. So as soon as you heard it was happening, 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:33.960 you would have jumped on booked flights, booked accommodation. I 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.439 just think the thing that makes it worse is also 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.920 that Matt has clearly known his mate's girlfriends for years. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.440 He said that these people are genuinely friends and he's 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.920 gotten to know them well. It'd be different if your 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:49.320 friend had a new girlfriend maybe you hadn't met. But 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:53.040 this is really brutal. I got the vibe from Matt's 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.600 grub that Tammy had asked him to un invite the 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.600 guests because maybe she hasn't met the girlfriends. I think 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.520 it's really different when you were bride and there are 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.720 restrictions on how many people you can invite. I know, 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.520 for me, I didn't really want people being at Dale 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.000 and My wedding who didn't know us very well. I 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.960 get that in a normal situation you want to invite 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.720 people that know you as a couple and have seen 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.160 you hang out as a couple before. But in their case, 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.560 they literally got engaged after knowing each other for a 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:24.000 couple of months and then forged ahead with this very 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.160 fast wedding. So I'm sure there's a lot of people 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:28.719 at this wedding who haven't hung out with them as well. 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:32.400 I wonder if Tammy's had to uninvite her friends, like 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.760 her female friend. I doubt it. He's probably covering the bill. 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.360 That's the other thing I don't understand. I know some 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.720 people have to keep their guest lists really tight because 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.520 of budget constraints, but when you're worth fifty million dollars, 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:46.880 you think you can invite a couple of extra people 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.160 just to save the piece. But maybe it's a specific 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.400 venue that has restrictions as well. It's quite funny because 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.600 Dale has been in that situation before before I knew him, 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.200 and he was with his ex. He got invited to 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.360 a wedding, but the ex was told not to come, 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.600 and all of his friend's partners were also not invited, 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:06.360 so it was just one big boy's table. That's just 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:07.240 asking for drug. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:07.679 Well. 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.280 I actually thought, you know what, sometimes there's nothing worse 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.160 than going to a wedding where you don't really know 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.560 the people that well and they're not really your friends. 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.040 So I actually don't mind it. But it's clear that 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.880 he is friends with these people. It is totally offensive. 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.400 And what makes it even worse is that one of 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:28.679 the girlfriends who has now subsequently been uninvited. It's actually 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:32.200 her birthday the weekend of the wedding, so she is 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.880 flying over to Byron Bay to basically sit in a 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.920 hotel room by herself. Well, let's be honest, she's probably 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:40.080 not gonna be by herself. All of the other jaded 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.920 girlfriends who got uninvited are probably gonna be up there 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.760 as well. That's what makes it even tougher though, because 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.480 if you're invited as a couple, you can split the 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.520 cost of the accommodation. But I mean, I suppose they 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:53.560 could bunk in with other guys there, but it just 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.800 makes it more complicated. And I personally be pissed off 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.480 if my husband was going away and sending all of 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:02.439 this money to go to a wedding that I hadn't 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:06.079 been invited to. It's really cute because Matt also mentioned 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.160 on the podcast how he'd recently caught up with his 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:11.600 grandparents and thank goodness, they have not been uninvited. So 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.880 they went ahead and booked flights, but they went to 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.800 flight Centered and booked in with a travel agent to 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.960 get their flights and accommodations sorted. That is so cute 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:24.160 for interstate travel is absolutely darling that they did that, 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.679 and the grandma actually brought in her invite which had 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.800 all of the information on it, and apparently one of 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.520 the travel agents spotted it and was like, oh my god, 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.360 is this for Matt and Tammy Hembro's wedding And she 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.840 was like, please don't say anything. You can't tell a 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.440 soul about it, and was really worried about it. I 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.400 wonder if this was after the whole Sofa dofa leaking incident. 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.720 What I want to know is if Matt's having to 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.319 uninvite all of his friend's girlfriends, how it held it 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:54.040 Sofa dofa Coppy an invite because I have never ever 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:57.520 seen her hang out with Tammy Hembro, which isn't to 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.120 say that they're not secretly friends behind the scenes, but 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.280 they don't even live in the same state. What doesn't 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.800 not add another level of disappointment for the girls who 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:08.600 were uninvited, because this place will be crawling with influence. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.800 It's been the best people watching spots, and Matt has 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.400 actually experienced being uninvited to a wedding himself, which I 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:18.800 think makes this even more of a dick move because 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.840 he knows how shit you feel when you're not included. 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.680 So a few years ago, when he was attending a 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.080 wedding with his ex in Geelong, he spent the whole 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:31.160 weekend sitting in a hotel room in a suit, waiting 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.480 to see if he got a call up. And Anna 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:35.920 said that it's so hypocritical of him now to do 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.440 the same thing to others, because he literally would not 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:42.400 stop going on about being not invited to this wedding. Now, 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.240 in tomorrow's subscriber episode, we're going to be talking more 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:49.160 about wedding invite etiquette and about a couple who actually 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.560 sent out You're not invited cards to family of friends 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.680 ahead of their wedding. Maybe they could have done this. Well, 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.679 that's just a huge slap in the face, isn't it. 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.679 And if you do want to listen to that episode, 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.480 don't forget to subscribe to Outspoken Plus. 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.320 I'm gonna pop this altogether and into the freezer. 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:09.280 This week, a Sunshine Coast content creator sparked a huge 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.160 debate in our Facebook group to freeze or not to 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:16.080 freeze sandwiches for kids lunchboxes? Now, Amy, this post went 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.840 off in our group. Can you bring us up to speed? Yeah? So, 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:22.520 Asia Easel who shares cooking videos and budgeting tips on 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:26.320 Instagram and TikTok, shared with her fifty nine thousand followers 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:29.920 on Instagram how she just got back into bulk prepping 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.720 her three sons sandwiches for their school lunchboxes. Let's have 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:35.200 a listen to what Asha said. 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.160 I'm trying to encourage you togs pack their own lunches 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.440 in the morning. If it means I just would make 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.760 chanveranges once every couple weeks, freeze it and they packed 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:45.840 the lunches, that would make my life so much easier. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.360 Let's tell me why I took three full loads of 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:54.280 bread just make eight days worth of sandwiches for my boys. 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:57.160 Like I did not realize, Like this is how many 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:01.040 sandwiches I make in eight days. It's just crazy. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:05.080 Her spreads of choice were veggimie and cheese honey and 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.600 also Ntella. Oh that's the winner there. Yeah, I wouldn't 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.080 mind a Natella sandwich when I was at school. And 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.920 I've got to say, eight sandwiches each for three boys, 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.760 that's a lot of food and requires a lot of 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:19.960 freezer space. Is it a sandwich a day? 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:20.240 So? 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:24.400 Is this covering eight days of school? Lunchboxes. Yes, that's 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.880 exactly what it is. So the idea is that in 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.320 the morning, the kids grub out their sandwiches from the 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:34.840 freezer and buy lunchtime. These sandwiches are dishausted, perfect for lunchtime. 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:39.160 How soggy would that be? Though? I have never eaten 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:43.080 a frozen sandwich before, and I can imagine it would 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:47.040 be even more difficult to persuade a child to eat 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.080 a frozen, soggy sandwich. There was a lot of mixed 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:53.120 reaction in our Facebook group. So some people like you, 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.560 were disgusted at the thought of eating frozen sandwiches, and 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:59.280 the main concern, as you said, was that the sandwiches 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:02.520 would be so by the time they were defrosted. However, 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:04.600 there were a lot of group members pointing out that 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.760 because of the spreads she had chosen, they would not 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:11.280 be soggy by lunchtime. So Asia said she's specifically chosen 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:14.680 to tell her honey and also veggimie and cheese because 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:16.840 they're not It's all like you're putting a salad sandwich 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.520 in the freezer, it's gonna get gross, really good point, 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.640 or a tuna sandwich. A lot of members in our 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:24.960 Facebook group who were mums were saying that this is 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.200 something that they do all of the time. And because 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.480 when I first saw this, I thought, well, how long 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.680 does it take to make a sandwich in the morning? 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.440 Do you really need to freeze and a tell a sandwich. However, 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:39.440 I'm not a mum disclaimer, so when I have children 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.200 and I'm making the kids lunches, who knows I might 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:47.560 be fucking freezing everything over It is actually so refreshing 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:51.520 to see a mum sharing a realistic lunch box, because 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.080 as someone who's not even a parent myself, I get 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:59.720 enrage seeing these influencers sharing these fancy is it called 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.440 a bear toe box or whatever the other week and 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:06.040 it's like, oh, look at these different apartments and everything's homemade, 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.679 everything's made by scratch, and it's meeting all of my 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.679 child's nutritional needs. And it's like, I'm sorry, but when 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.199 you've got a life, a job, you're looking after a 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.719 busy household, probably most of the time because your husband's 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:20.240 not helping, when you have the time to be coming 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.960 up with these extravagant lunch boxes. And I think a 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:28.360 lot of mums are really loving Asia's content because it's relatable. 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.080 They're getting good tips on it, and it's budget friendly 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.920 because I creating one of those big Bento boxes would 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.760 be so expensive. But I like her content. I had 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:38.920 never heard of her before this sandwich debate. I went 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.040 and checked out her content. She's a Hillary Duff fan, 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.000 so she's high up there. My only thing is, I'm 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.800 going to be real. I hate the taste of frozen bread, 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.480 like I just don't know what is. It just has 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:53.320 a weird after taste to it. However, these kids are 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:56.200 being given to Tella sandwiches, So if I was a child, 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:58.479 I think I could put up with that taste in 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:01.160 order to get an a Tella sandwich lunch. Yeah, frozen 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:05.880 sandwiches just remind me of aeroplane food or I mean 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.840 even they seem to serve up very cold sandwiches in 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.800 nursing homes. I don't think a sandwich should ever be 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:13.720 in the fridge. Well, do you know what the worst 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.119 thing was? Remember when we were all at school, and 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:19.320 of course no one had the fancy Stanley cups. You 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.040 all had an ice drink bottle and it had a 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:24.879 tea towel around it with a rubber band, and often 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.480 that would sit on top of your lunch box, and 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:29.919 our mum would always pack us. It was like a 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.720 bread roll for lunch plane because I think we'd complain 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.800 about having soggy sandwiches. If there were salad, we'd have 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.920 an apple for recess. But every time it would get 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.560 to lunch, because your drink bottle had been sitting on it, 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:45.440 it would inadvertently get soggy. And the worst thing is, yeah, 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:47.600 they're trying to stomach this bread roll, and there would 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:51.760 be kids chowing down on fucking dunk a use yogos 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:55.320 roll up Simber. I won't name names, but there was 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:59.200 this one girl who her mother. If they had Instagram, 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:03.040 like twenty years ago, oh, probably longer than that, twenty 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:05.480 five years ago, she would have been the one with 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:07.480 the perfect lunch box. I mean, I don't think it 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:10.320 was nutritional at all, but she literally had marble cake 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:14.880 every day, She'd have chocolate beats, slammed shoes on TikTok. 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.440 Everyone would abuse her for serving a chiwre well, they would, 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.480 but I remember she had the most envy lunch box 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.240 out of anyone. One of our friends used to bring 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:27.520 in a whole wheel of bree or cameon beer cheese, yeah, 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.160 and eat the whole thing at lunchtime. That's a great lunchbox. 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.200 Do you remember? This is so random, but one of 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.879 the news stations came down to our school when we 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:39.000 were in reception because they were doing a story about 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.719 junk food. Yeah, and I was in that yees report. 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:42.040 Yeah. 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:44.440 So our mom's a dental therapist and as I said, 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:48.120 she would only pack like fucking apple and too bread roll. Anyway, 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:52.120 so the cameraman's there filming at lunchtime and he pans 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:55.439 to Sophie. And in this shop that was aired everywhere 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:59.760 was Sophie opening one of our friends very sugary musley bars, 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:01.919 and you had a lot of explaining to do when 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:04.359 you got home to her. We were not allowed to 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:06.840 have muslee bars, and I was having to explain to 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.600 Mum that I was merely helping my friend open it 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:12.120 for her to remember ghost drop. Sorry, this is getting 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:14.480 really nice because we were the best. There was a 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.680 girl at school and was so terrible because I don't 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.159