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Speaker 1: Great the flick with Beno, Well, good morning, ben O'Shea

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Speaker 1: who actually dressed as Bruce and did a dancing in

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Speaker 1: the dark.

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Speaker 2: Look you think a telephon on the weakend?

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Speaker 1: How ominous? Yeah, exactly. I'm not sure if I pulled

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Speaker 1: it off quite as well as Jeremy Allen. I've got

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Speaker 1: in Springsteen delivered me from nowhere. I heard you play

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Speaker 1: some of Jeremy's singing yesterday on the show, and doesn't

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Speaker 1: he sound like the Boss? Well, it's uncanny, it's incredible,

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Speaker 1: and that's why he's on the soundtrack doing you know,

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Speaker 1: all the Nebraska songs as well as a little bit

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Speaker 1: of that one and a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Of a mumpire.

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Speaker 1: And if anybody didn't hear it yesterday, let's just let's

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Speaker 1: just have a listen to just how close he does

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Speaker 1: he does it.

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Speaker 2: That is amazingly convinced.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but anyway, he does do a very

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Speaker 1: very good job.

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Speaker 2: Please tell me the movie is good.

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Speaker 1: The movie is good, but it's not what you might expect.

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Speaker 1: You know what to expect, so you know, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's not a bio pick of his whole life. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Oh, when I say, when I say you.

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Speaker 1: I don't mean you, Lisa, I know you've done your research.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about me average, the average Joe blowout there

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Speaker 1: who maybe has you know, seen a lot of the

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Speaker 1: recent musical biopicks like we're talking, you know, the Whitney Houston,

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Speaker 1: the Bob Marley, the Freddie Mercury, the Amy Winehouse, and

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Speaker 1: they're all kind of similar, very generic. It's basically just

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Speaker 1: all the hits you can cram in two hours and

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Speaker 1: a pretty a pretty formulaic kind of They go from nowhere,

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Speaker 1: find fame, struggle with fame, and then have some kind

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Speaker 1: of comeback. That's basically the formula. This is. This is

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Speaker 1: not like that at all. It's a very slow burned

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Speaker 1: film about one of the darkest periods in Bruce Springsteen's life,

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Speaker 1: when he'd already been successful. He had already released five albums.

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Speaker 1: His last one, The River, was a big hit. He

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Speaker 1: had this very successful tour. His record label said, Bruce,

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Speaker 1: you are at the top of the game. All you

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Speaker 1: need is one more big album and you will be

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Speaker 1: an absolute superstar. But instead he's like, no, I can't

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Speaker 1: deal with all of this stuff. He has gone back

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Speaker 1: to his hometown in New Jersey and recorded this introspective album, Nebraska,

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Speaker 1: which he released in nineteen eighty two in his bedroom

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Speaker 1: on a four track tape recorder, and it was completely

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Speaker 1: unlike anything he'd done. The record company hated it. He

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Speaker 1: didn't want to tour it, he didn't want to release

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Speaker 1: any singles, and he didn't want to do any press

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Speaker 1: to promote the album. So it was like a really

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Speaker 1: huge departure from what everybody expected from Bruce Springsteen, and

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Speaker 1: this film kind of unpacks why that happened and what

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Speaker 1: was going on in his life at the time and

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Speaker 1: some of his childhood trauma that influenced that album. But

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Speaker 1: at the same time, while he was recording Nebraska, he

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Speaker 1: also came up with Born in the USA Glory Days, uh,

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Speaker 1: and so he was doing these incredible songs and the

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Speaker 1: studio bosses said, Bruce, why don't we just release Born

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Speaker 1: in the USA and these other hits, and he was like, no,

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Speaker 1: I refuse to let you release those songs. I want

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Speaker 1: you to do these these really introspective, dark acoustic, like

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Speaker 1: home brand recordings that didn't sound good at all at

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Speaker 1: the time, and then it turned out to be, you know,

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Speaker 1: an album that people look back at now as incredibly

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Speaker 1: influential Artists like The Killers, Rage Against the Machine, Kelly

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Speaker 1: Clarks and.

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Speaker 2: Steve Not like the Kelly look look look, you can

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Speaker 2: hear it in classon Kelly, I think, yeah, look it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Kelly Clarson isn't quite on the same level. Also

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Speaker 1: the National the Nationals, Iron and Wine, lots of bands

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Speaker 1: really look at Nebraska as hugely influential. Kelly Clarsson, did

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Speaker 1: I put it out to you and so now it's amazing?

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Speaker 1: Of course, no one, no one really thinks about it

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Speaker 1: as an iconic Bruce brings In album because his next

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Speaker 1: album two years later was Born in the USA with

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Speaker 1: Dancing in the Dark and I'm on Fire and you know,

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Speaker 1: all of those iconic hits. So but probably the best

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Speaker 1: scene in this film, somewhat ironically, is not any of

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Speaker 1: the scenes where he's recording Nebraska. It's when he's in

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Speaker 1: the studio laying down Born in the USA. So if

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Speaker 1: you have to excuse the irony, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: probably the one drawback of the film that, you know,

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Speaker 1: in making the point that Nebraska is such an important

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Speaker 1: moment in time, they also acknowledge that no one will

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Speaker 1: watch this movie unless they have born in the USA,

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Speaker 1: I'm on Fire, and they find excuses to have those

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Speaker 1: songs in there as well. But Jeremy Allen White is

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Speaker 1: fantastic as Bruce Wrong. Jeremy Strong from succession as his

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Speaker 1: manager John Landau is fantastic. Could really do with some

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Speaker 1: more Jeremy Strong in this movie and explore the relationship there.

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Speaker 1: It's overall probably all we're getting. We're getting played off.

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Speaker 1: We're getting played off.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: It is full of great Jeremies.

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Speaker 2: Now then, how many Courtney Cox.

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Speaker 1: Is an minutes?

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Speaker 2: Are you giving?

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Speaker 1: Are you giving it? Oh? Courtney Cox was also hugely

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Speaker 1: influenced by Nebraska. I'm going to give it three and

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Speaker 1: a half, three and a half and a half, or

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Speaker 1: you could say three and a half.

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Speaker 2: Kelly Clarkson's out of five years. How's your ankle after

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Speaker 2: your fat cat tattoo?

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Speaker 1: It's healed up, beautifully, beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Took one for the team there, didn't you tattoos?

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Speaker 1: The forever kids.

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Speaker 2: Think wisely?

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks, thanks guys,