1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken, your dose of the hottest 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Sophie 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Torbert and I'm joined by my sisters and journalists Kate 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: and Amy. On today's show, Stax rolls out the red 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: carpet as the influencer world comes together for its new 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: collection launch. Brooke Hogan opens up about weddings, spon con 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: and calls for calm after Love Island's Tash is met 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: with a barrage of ablest abuse on social media. But 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: first dinner parties are back in vogue thanks to the 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: rise of so called dinner party influencers on TikTok. I 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: am all about this trend because I love dinner parties. 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm often known as the host in our friendship group, 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: and I really want to get around this trend. Amy, 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: you brought it to my attention because there are literally 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: six hundred and ninety three million videos currently showing up 16 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: with this hashtag and I want to become one of 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: these influencers. How do I go about doing it? Okay, 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to up your game because these dinner 19 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: parties on TikTok and next Level some of these dinner 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: party influences. They have hand written menus, they have five 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: course meals, and you also have to have a very 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: nice table scattering, so very esthetic is what we're looking for. 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: What's a table scattering? Do you mean like fresh flowers? 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: Because I saw a lot of these videos. The first 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: step is actually going to the market and buying like 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of fresh flowers just for the table, which 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: I've never done before. Some people do eucalyptus leave scattered 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: all over the table. But there's actually businesses that you 29 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: can hire in, so if you're not very good at, 30 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: you know, doing your table scape as they call it, 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: you can hire in a company to do it all 32 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: for you. Some of these influencers are even providing Spotify 33 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: music lists so you can have the perfect collection of 34 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: music on hand. Do you reckon that this is just 35 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: trending in our age demographic because I feel like once 36 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: you enter your thirties, having a dinner party on the 37 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: weekend is sort of a sign that you're sophisticated and 38 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: grown up and you've got your life together. It just 39 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: made me think about Bridget Jones's dinner party where she 40 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: was trying so hard and served the blue soup. See, 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm not a very good dinner party host. I think 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: I would flop in this category. Well, the reason I 43 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: feel like this trend is going off now is because 44 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: we've all been in lockdown, We've all been organizing our pantries, 45 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: we've been redesigning our home. So it seems like everyone 46 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: just wants to have people over to show off. And 47 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: I feel like this is kind of a status thing 48 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: as well, Like it used to be the cupboard in lockdown, 49 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: but now it's look how organized and I am. Look 50 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: what a great cook I am? Well, look what a 51 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: good host here. It's funny because usually you'd only be 52 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: showing off to the handful of people that you had over, 53 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: but now you've got even more incentive because you're showing 54 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: after all your followers on social media. Is it bad 55 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: that it made me want to have a really pretentious 56 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: dinner party. I want to have a dinner party where 57 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: each couple brings a core, So we should organize one 58 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: this weekend. I want to have a dinner party competition 59 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: based off Oh we've done that before that didn't end up, 60 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: but let's do one with a real I'm definitely up 61 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: for the challenge. Once I mentioned to Brandon that it's 62 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: a competition, he'll be down for it as well. Is 63 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: there a price, Oh, we've got to do some sort 64 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: of prize. I think the voting should be based on 65 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: the guests that are actually there, so they need to 66 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: vote on the food and the actual vibe the event, 67 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: and then I think the outspoken's listeners can vote on 68 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: the reel. It makes it it makes it difficult for friends. 69 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: I think this is purely an aesthetic thing. We're going 70 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: to judge on how it looks on TikTok and Instagram. Well, 71 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: that's what it's all about. I mean, these dinner party influencers, 72 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: their food might taste like shit, but it just looks 73 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: good online. And also it's like how pretentious you make 74 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: the reel, like down at the Central Market picking out 75 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: your flowers and whatnot. Who's who of the influencer world 76 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: converged on Sydney to attend Active where brand Stacks is 77 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: annual collection launch. No expense was spared, with Stacks footing 78 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: the bill for influencers flights, accommodation and gifts. With Australia's 79 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: biggest influencers in town, tongues were wagging with new couple 80 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: sightings and potential run ins. Now, so before we get 81 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: into the drama, how has Stax evolved into one of 82 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: Australia's biggest active wear brands. Well, the brand was actually 83 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: launched in Perth in twenty fifteen by Matilda Murray and 84 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: Don Robertson, and at the time the couple couldn't afford 85 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: to hire professional models, so they instead gifted the clothes 86 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: to local influences to share photos on social media and 87 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: at the time in twenty fifteen, this was somewhat revolutionary. 88 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: So the label experienced such rapid expansion that they moved 89 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: to Sydney to better position themselves in the global market. 90 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: And in the past two years, Stax's popularity has absolutely 91 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: exploded after it was spotted on the likes of Hailey Bieber, 92 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: Ashley Graham and Jennifer Lopez. So a really clever marketing 93 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: move by Stax is that they only release limited edition collection, 94 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: which of course creates hype and urgency to buy. And 95 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: they seem to have a winning formula with their collections 96 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: because they are known to sell out in under sixty 97 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: seconds flat and their seamless legends are so popular that 98 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: pre orders are being accepted eight weeks in advance, while 99 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 1: sales for their black tights hit fifteen thousand per month 100 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: and they raked in almost eight hundred thousand dollars within 101 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: two days when they dropped a VIP sale. So in 102 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one they turned over a whopping thirty million 103 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: dollars and it is safe to say they have really 104 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: made a name for themselves as the active were choice 105 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: of influencers, so it's no surprise when they hold these 106 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: sorts of events that every influencer and their dog is invited. Now, 107 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: no expense seemed to be spared, with Sofa Dofa revealing 108 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: flights and accommodation were all paid for. In her recent vlog, 109 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: Sofa Dofa revealed how she was shocked when she landed 110 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: at the airport and received a tech saying a limo 111 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: was out the front to take her to her hotel. 112 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: She also revealed that all influencer guests were staying at 113 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: luxury hotel Little National in Sydney, CBD. It was quite 114 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: cute because Sophia said that when she was checking into 115 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: the hotel, she met Michael Finch, Lily Brown and Sky 116 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: Wheatley and had a little bit of a fangirl moment 117 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: because she loves all of them. It's safe to say 118 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: she obviously grew up watching them on YouTube. And I 119 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: did find it quite refreshing because Sophia bought her mum 120 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: along to the event and they admitted that they were 121 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: both feeling quite stressed and nervous to attend. She said 122 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: she was getting scared to go to events because she's 123 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: quite introverted, which I think seems to be quite common 124 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: for influencers now. Stax did the obligatory brand trip move 125 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: of leaving a collection of presents for the influencers on 126 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: their hotel bed, which included items from the new collection, 127 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: a black rose and a two thousands digital camera which 128 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: had Stacks written on it, and that just made me 129 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: feel old, the fact that they're like, yes, retro retro 130 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: digital camera. Now. The dress for the event was all black, 131 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: and to show off the all black outfits, there was 132 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: this spinning podium that influencers could take photos on, and 133 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: it reminded me of that really gross Wago wheel. I 134 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys remember it, but they how 135 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: did at the Brown Low about ten years ago. I 136 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: think they came up with it. A year after Beck 137 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: jud made a splash with their red dress and this 138 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: podium at Stax. There was this camera tracking, so tracked 139 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: in a circular motion and basically the influencers would be 140 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: dancing and then it was pretty cool because it made 141 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: all of the influencers actually want to upload content. It 142 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: was a great idea. I saw Sky Wheatley shared vision 143 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: of her and Tarliest Gains on this sort of wheel 144 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: and Sky was really embarrassed because she was dancing and 145 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: you could see a white undis hanging out from the 146 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: back well. In the past, Stacks owner Matilda Murray has 147 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: given some insight into how she gets inpo for her 148 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: fashion shows, and this year it seemed very much to 149 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: have a Kanye esque vibe. So it was held at 150 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: Luna Park and the show was described as being very 151 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: over the top, so there were singers group dancing, and 152 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: there were also some familiar faces modeling in the show, 153 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: including Lily Brown's mum Nat and influencer m Davies. Now 154 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: we all know that the influencer world can be quite ancestral, 155 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: so of course, with hordes of influencers converging on the 156 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: event and also staying at the same hotel. People were 157 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: expecting things to get a little bit awkward, so Sofa 158 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: Dofer unknowingly exposed Jonathan Souer sitting with his new girlfriend 159 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: Sky Moody. And it's quite funny because Sophia was zooming 160 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: in on Michael Finch and Lily Brown who was sitting 161 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: in the front row, and Lily was cheering and getting 162 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: amongst it because one of the male dancers took his 163 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: shirt off, and in the background, sitting in the second row, 164 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: we clearly see Jonathan and Sky laughing along. And it 165 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: was quite odd to see Jonathan hanging out with his 166 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: old crew because he did spend a lot of time 167 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: with Michael Finch and Lily when he was dating ex 168 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: Shiny Grip. And it's interesting to note that Shanny did 169 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: not attend the event, and neither did Madison Woolly. And 170 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: that is despite the fact that Madison attended last year's event. 171 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: She's also had Matilda Murray on her podcast. She is 172 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: a big supporter of Stax, so it was odd that 173 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: she wasn't actually there. It was quite clear Madison did 174 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: not attend because she knew Jonathan was going to be there. 175 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: I mean, who would want to go if your ex 176 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: boyfriend's there with his new partner. On a side note, 177 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: I did notice that Madison Wooley actually verified that her 178 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: parents did not send her that bunch of flowers that 179 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: we spoke about last week. Now, I'm assuming she might 180 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: have heard the podcast she said that mister Bottles gave 181 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,599 Speaker 1: her though, so Amy, I just wanted to clear that 182 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: up for you now. Despite the fact that Jonathan and 183 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: Sky were seated next to each other, they both didn't 184 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: appear on one another's Instagram pages, so there was no 185 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: instant stories together or photos. I also did wonder whether 186 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: Mitch Third would be making a trip back from overseas 187 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: to attend this event, because he has been quite supportive 188 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: of Stacks in the past two and I thought maybe 189 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: there might be an awkward reunion with ex Talia Scaines. Thankfully, 190 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: for Talia, that did not happen, and she spent most 191 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: of the night with friend Steph Packer. Yeah, because Mitch's 192 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: overseas at the moment, so I suppose it was good timing. 193 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: It would have been interesting to see what happened, because, 194 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: as we spoke about on Friday, there seems to be 195 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: no love lost there between those two. My favorite, Anna 196 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: Paul was treated like the influencer royalty she is. On 197 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: the night, she was seated in front Road next to 198 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: her brother Attis and her partner Glenn, alongside the owner Matilda, 199 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: so these were the prime seats. Now, even the other 200 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: influences seem to be a bit star struck in her presence, 201 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: with many including her on the Instagram stories and also 202 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: talking about how they were excited to meet her. And 203 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: I do think it's quite rare to see Anna at 204 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: these influencer events, and that's probably because she's always traveling overseas, 205 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: but also because she recently admitted on her Instagram account 206 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: that she has turned down every single promotion that she's 207 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: been offered except for her partnership with Stacks. It was 208 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: rather funny timing because Anna officially revealed that she is 209 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: starting her own line with Stacks, which is a massive 210 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: win for the Active Where brand considering her pool on 211 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: the gen Z market. It was quite juicy because before 212 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: the Stax event, Anna revealed that she had been offered 213 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars up front for a 214 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: sponsored deal. She didn't say which brand that was from, 215 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: and she said she turned it down. Because her followers 216 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: trust is worth more to her. She said, I would 217 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: never promote something that I don't actually recommend. No amount 218 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: of money is worth lying to you. Ever. Ever, ever, ever, 219 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: I would rather quit social media. Now. Many people were 220 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: questioning whether she is setting a new standard for influences. However, 221 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: I do think we have to remember that she is 222 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: making a substantial income off only fans, so it's not 223 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: quite the same to say, oh, all these influencers shouldn't 224 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: be working with brands, that's their core income. Yeah, but 225 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: it also bumps up your value if you're only willing 226 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: to do brand deals with certain brands. Well, I do 227 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: wonder if that's why she is so popular, because her 228 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: content isn't littered with inane ads all the time on 229 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: the topic of money. As for the event itself, a 230 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: lot of people in our Facebook group were discussing how 231 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: much it would have cost to actually put something on 232 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: like this, because it was very impressive, and I do 233 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: think Stax would have paid big time influencers like Anna 234 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: Paul to attend the event. However, in the case of 235 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: the smaller influencers, I actually just think they would have 236 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: received a free lot of active wear. I think it 237 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: would have been a contra deal. What do you think? So, yeah, 238 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: I definitely think the smaller influencers would have been quite 239 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: flattered to be offered free accommodation and flights and obviously 240 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: the free activewear gear that comes with it in exchange 241 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: for attending the event and posting. I also think that 242 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: Stax works with so many influencers that it was also 243 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: most likely to have been written into their contract that 244 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: they also attend events and post about it. I also 245 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: think it's a place to be seen. A lot of 246 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: status that comes with going to the Stacks event because 247 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: only the biggest influencers in Australia are invited, so there's 248 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: probably some that just literally went because they wanted to 249 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: be seen there. Well. I was actually surprised that this 250 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: event was open to the general public, so on the 251 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: day of the event, Matilda was promoting that she had 252 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: tickets still available and she showed that general admission tickets 253 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: were fifty dollars, where as a more VIP experience was 254 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: two hundred to three hundred dollars. See. I would have 255 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: thought this would be a great promotion to actually give 256 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: those away to followers of Stacks and get fans involved 257 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: rather than making a profit off it. But maybe it 258 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: shows well they needed to recoup some of the money 259 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: spent on the event through tickets, even though the event 260 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: was open to the general public. Do you think these 261 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: sorts of displays of wealth and money and status, do 262 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: you think it actually makes people want to buy the 263 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: clothes or do you think it makes people feel a 264 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: little bit excluded and like they're not part of the 265 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: cool club. Look for someone that's thirty three years old, 266 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: it did not make me want to buy the active 267 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: where However, I think for their target market of gen Zetas, 268 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: I don't think they care. I think that if they 269 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: see it on people that they're following, they're gonna go 270 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: out and buy it. I think it would entice them 271 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: to do so. We've seen the Sofa Dofer effect play 272 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: out where she promotes any clothing and it literally sells 273 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: out within seconds. I am fascinated to see the Anna 274 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: Pole effect, considering she hasn't actually partnered with any brands before. 275 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: I reckon it's going to absolutely go within a couple 276 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: of seconds. This new collection that Anna Pole's launching, the 277 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: Father of Love Islands. Tasha Guri has called on the 278 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: public to avoid making fun of his daughter's hearing loss 279 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: following a barrage of ablest abuse on social media. Amy 280 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: It's sad it's come to this point. It really is, Kate. 281 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: There was so much excitement when Tash was unveiled as 282 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: a contestant on Love Island because she's the first ever 283 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: deaf person on the show. So Tash was born completely deaf, 284 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: and when she was five she was fitted with a 285 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: cocklear implant. She then underwent years of speech therapy and 286 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: now refers to her cochlear implant as her superpower. Now 287 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: I didn't realize this, but the sounds heard through a 288 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: cochlear implant are not the same as what you'd hear 289 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: through your ears. So cochlear implant wearers who have previously 290 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: heard naturally often described the sound heard from the implant 291 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: as being more robotic or tinny. However, they say as 292 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: time goes on, the brain adjusts to the new signals 293 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: and it becomes more natural. So whilst in the villa, 294 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: Tash has been the center of a number of big storylines. 295 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: She has been coupled up with Andrew from day one, 296 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: but the perception from the other Islanders and also the 297 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: public is that she's not really that into Andrew because 298 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: every time a new bombshell came in, she wanted to 299 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: get to know them instead of being focused on Andrew. 300 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: And during her time in Cassa Moore, she recoupled with Billy. 301 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: Andrew also controversially recoupled with a Cassa a More girl 302 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: called Cocoa, and this of course led to the infamous 303 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: tar Gate controversy, which we spoke about last week. Now, 304 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: this week, Tash asked Andrew to be her boyfriend, which 305 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: is a really big deal in the villa, and she 306 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: got all of the contestants involved to help her. There 307 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: was a lot of attention on them. Now, what you 308 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: would expect to be a really happy time turned sour 309 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: because hours later Tash was in tears after being put 310 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: in the bottom three following the public vote. Now, Tasha's 311 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: behavior copped not only criticism from inside the villa but 312 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: also outside of the villa because everyone thought, well, she 313 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: should be really happy that she's just made Andrew her boyfriend, 314 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: rather than focusing on whether she's popular in the public. 315 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: And this led to a lot of horrendous abuse online 316 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: and it's something that she's been receiving quite a while 317 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: now since she's been in the villa, and this actually 318 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: prompted UK journalist Liam O'Dell, who is also deaf, to 319 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: call out the comments now. He said he's been worried 320 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: by the amount of abuse directed at Tash from the 321 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: minute she was announced as an islander. Now. The abuse 322 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: he's referring to includes tiktoks, mocking her voice, comments fantasizing 323 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: about damaging her cochlear implant. Now some people have even 324 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: gone as far as to express desires for her boyfriend 325 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: Andrew to physically abuse her. Some of the tweets I 326 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: have seen are actually too horrendous to read out now. 327 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: The journalist has called on ITV to do more to 328 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: protect Hash and said that the condemning of trolling isn't enough. 329 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: He said that they need to be more specific and 330 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: condemned the ableism. He went on to say that hearing 331 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 1: people still can't understand that you can criticize a person 332 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: who happens to be deaf without bringing their disability into it. Now. 333 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: This backlash has also prompted Tasha's dad, Tarek, to speak out. 334 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: Replying to a comment on Instagram, he wrote, part of 335 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: a dad's job is to guide, but not drive their 336 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: kid's ships. This mentality has got her to where she 337 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: is today despite the negativity. She was successful before she 338 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: went in and she will be successful when she comes out. 339 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: We talked about the possible negativity and if you think 340 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: you are prepared for it, you are not. Negativity is 341 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: not what we do in this family. So it's a 342 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: bit of a shock, but more so is the ablest comments, 343 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: like last night when someone described her as a deaf whore. 344 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: Tash wanted to do it to represent and show deaf kids, 345 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: teenagers and adults that they have nothing to fear by 346 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: embracing their deafness or hearing aids. It's why hers are 347 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: bright white. It's also why she's the only Love Island 348 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: contestant to publicly say she would donate half of any 349 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: winnings to the Deaf Children's charity, a positive story that's 350 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: been left behind as news does. It's mentally draining for 351 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: her to compute what's being said lipbreading people whose lips 352 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: aren't facing hers, or whose mouths are covered with drink bottles, 353 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: staying involved in conversations when you can only hear robotic 354 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: sounds in only one of your ears is mentally draining. 355 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: This leads to tiredness and sometimes tears. It's a pressured environment, 356 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: but she has an extra pressure no one seems to recognize, 357 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: apart from anyone who is deaf or hard of hearing. 358 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm completely with her dad here. I don't know why 359 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: there is such a dislike for Tash. I don't think 360 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: she's done anything wrong. If any thing, she has brought entertainment, drama, 361 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: and realness to the show. I'm sorry we're forgetting that 362 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: these people have only known each other for a few 363 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: weeks When she was a bit up in the air 364 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: over you know, bombshells coming in, didn't really know whether 365 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: she liked Andrew that much. That's pretty normal in the 366 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: dating world. So I don't understand why everyone has just 367 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: thrown all this hate towards her. I do wonder if 368 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: it's because she's absolutely stunning and people are threatened by her. 369 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: I do wonder if her negative portrayal on the outside 370 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: has anything to do with fan favorite Luca always seeming 371 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: to call her out when she's upset. Because Luca has 372 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: been called a game player before, Dumi's called him fake 373 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: and said that Luca really wants to win the competition. Now, 374 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: while Luca has denied that, I saw bits of that 375 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: in the episode the other night when Tash was upset 376 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: and the first thing he did was call her out, 377 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: because I think there's nothing worse than you can do 378 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: in Love Ireland than actually acknowledge that you're there for 379 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: your career Luca's defense, I think that he actually said 380 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: it to her as a friend because people like Eck 381 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: and Sue and other day they were talking behind her 382 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: back and rolling eyes and that sort of thing. I 383 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: think he wanted to go up to her and say 384 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: something to kind of make her aware of the way 385 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: she was being portrayed or might be portrayed on her sho. 386 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: I agree with what Kate's saying because to Luca, he 387 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: probably sees Tash and Andrew as being a big threat. 388 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: I don't think so. He's best friends with Andrew. Yeah, 389 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: but they're the couple that have been together since day one. 390 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: They're now girlfriend and boyfriends, so it does make sense 391 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: that he would call her out. He also could have 392 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: spoken to her privately. It was quite clear that he 393 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: wanted to have that moment where he called her out 394 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: because he knows that Andrew and Tash are not popular 395 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: in the house. Therefore calling them out on their shit 396 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: is going to make him even more popular. I also 397 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,719 Speaker 1: don't get why she's not allowed to be upset that 398 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: she's in the bottom three. I get that she is 399 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: supposed to be a happy day because she's now girlfriend 400 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: of Andrew whatever. But at the same time, I think 401 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: people are forgetting that this is an enormous show. It 402 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 1: is a launching pad for your career. I know people say, oh, 403 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: I've only come into the show for love. That's bullshit. 404 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: You go on the show to make a career for yourself. 405 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: And also, all of the Islanders are aware that they're 406 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: being spoken about, whether it's on social media, on newspapers, 407 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: on podcasts. So to be in the bottom three three 408 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: times in a row and to know that everyone on 409 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: the outside probably doesn't like you, I mean, the fact 410 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: that they got put in the bottom three over people 411 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: from Casta Moore set a lot. Yes, it's not even 412 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: just that. It's not even us saying we're confused why 413 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: people don't like her. The fact is people have been 414 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: disgusting and vile commenting on her cochlear implants, like they 415 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: need to understand Tasha's made such huge progression for representation 416 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: both on Love Island and also in the modeling industry. 417 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: She's also raising so much awareness around the world, and 418 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: I feel like she should be applauded for it, I think, 419 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: but also forgetting how draining and tiring it must be 420 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: for her to have to lip read other Islanders or 421 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: to not be involved in conversations in the same way. 422 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: You know, she might be losing things that other people 423 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: who can hear might pick up on, you know what 424 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean, like social cues and stuff. And it is 425 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: interesting because the family and friends who were looking after 426 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: the islander's account, they have actually come together to release 427 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: a joint statement about the current trolling. So they said, 428 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: Love Ireland is an interactive TV show where opinions, discussions, 429 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: and debate are welcome in equal measure to displays of support, love, 430 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: and kindness. Although we have never met, we stand together today, 431 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: united against the hate, messages and insults that some viewers 432 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: seem to think is acceptable to throw at our friends, sons, daughters, 433 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: and family members. Your hate has no place on our 434 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: pages or in society in general. This post is being 435 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: shared across contestant social media pages at the same time, 436 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: and Love Island fan related pages as a sign of 437 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: unity and denouncement of hate. And I just think it's 438 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: shocking that in twenty nineteen we saw Caroline Flack die 439 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: by suicide and we were reminded to all be kind 440 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: to people on reality shows or those hosting them. We 441 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: also saw a number of contestants take their own life, 442 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: but the message of being kind still doesn't seem to 443 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: be getting through. It seems like the abuse has gotten 444 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: even worse following that, and I think people need to 445 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: remember this is just a TV show. This is light 446 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: entertainment for us. These are just snippets of a twenty 447 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: four hour day that you're seeing. I was shocked to 448 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: hear that one of Love Island's sponsors is Reddit. So 449 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: they have a specific Reddit link for Love Island users, 450 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: and I heard them promoter on their podcast. I've only 451 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: just gotten into it. It's fabulous if you are into 452 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: Love Island like me anyway. So they're promoting this Reddit 453 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: thread where you can talk about all of your favorite islanders. 454 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: They did say they try and keep it safe, but 455 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: I'd be really interested to know how everyone's on tattle 456 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: talking about them tearing to shreds. Brooke Hogan shared some 457 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: interesting insights into her fashion brand, as well as the 458 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: sponsorship status of her wedding in a recent Not Gonna 459 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: Lie Q and a Let's start with the wedding Kate? 460 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: What did she say? Well Brook revealed that her and 461 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: her husband Miles, weren't keen on having a sponsored wedding, 462 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: so she said she didn't want to feel pressured to 463 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: post every element of her big day on social media. 464 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: She did, however, confirm that small elements of her wedding 465 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: were sponsored. So her two wedding dresses were gifted from 466 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: designers Steven Kalal and Marana Hardwick, while her champagne tower 467 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: was sponsored by MOI because she actually had a long 468 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: term partnership with them. Brook also confirmed the wedding venue, 469 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: Hotel Sorrento, was her husband's family business. So, I mean, 470 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: I feel like a large chunk would have been sponsored, 471 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: because when you do break down a wedding, the food, 472 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: the dress, and also those champagne towers, they set you 473 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: back a lot. Yeah. But the thing is, I actually 474 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: really appreciate Brooke opening up and sharing what was sponsored 475 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: and what wasn't, because as someone who is planning a wedding. 476 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: It can be really overwhelming when you see an influencer's 477 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: wedding all over social media because it does set the 478 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: bar of what a wedding should look like. And obviously 479 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: they're going to have the best of the best, because 480 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: not only do influencers have really high paychecks compared to 481 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: us normal people, but they also get a lot of 482 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: things for free. I agree, I do think it was refreshing. 483 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: It was sort of similar to when Olivia Rodgers said 484 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 1: that both of her dresses were also sponsored, because Yeah, 485 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: the average person sitting at home, you think, how are 486 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: these people affording different outfit changes when I'm struggling to 487 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: afford one dress exactly? And I think the second dress 488 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: trend has become so big because of influencers and celebrities 489 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: often having more than one dress, and in reality, it's 490 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: only because they're not paying for it, and that's how 491 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: they can afford to have to. I think it would 492 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: be good if they could start adding gifted to some 493 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: of the photos initially, because it would clear things up. 494 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: That being said, though, these wedding brands also clearly making 495 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: a lot of money off gift these influences. The dresses 496 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: I know now from looking at so many wedding forums 497 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: and Instagram pages that Olivia and also Brook have featured 498 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: quite heavily, and I'm sure there's a lot of people 499 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: inquiring about what dress they wore. That's actually a really 500 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: good point. Now, Brooke didn't go into whether she got 501 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: to keep her dress, but I remember Olivia Rodgers was 502 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: saying that it was more of a case of it 503 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: being loan to her, so she couldn't even take it 504 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: home after the wedding. She had to give it back. 505 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: So I don't know how I would feel about that. 506 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: I suppose a lot of people do go on to 507 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: sell their dresses. Yeah, but what are you really going 508 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: to do with a huge wedding gown? I know I 509 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: already struggle for room in my closet as it is. 510 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: I can't imagine this huge ball gown in there as well, 511 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: or two huge ballgowns like most influencers have. It's funny 512 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: because it actually seems like a bit of a positive 513 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: that influencers are able to confirm what and wasn't sponsored 514 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: for their own personal benefit as well, because there's this 515 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: trend of influencers tagging all their suppliers in their wedding photos, 516 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 1: and it can give off the impression that everything was sponsored. 517 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: And I can imagine if you've paid for most of 518 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: the staff, you will actually want people to know that 519 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: you paid for it, not that it was for free. Yeah. 520 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: I think that's why we copped a bit of heat 521 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: from Sarah's day, because when she got married last year, 522 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: we were having a bit of a joke about what 523 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: we thought was sponsored or not sponsored, because she was 524 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 1: one of those influencers who did tag every single person 525 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: except the dress designer, which was a bit odd. Yeah, 526 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: and she wasn't too happy with us and came out 527 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: and said, I actually paid for everything. But as you say, Kate, 528 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: I can understand if I put my hard earned money 529 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: into something and everyone's like they got this were free, 530 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: you might be a bit annoyed. Yeah. At the moment 531 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: when I'm as I'm going through the wedding budget and 532 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: paying deposits and all that kind of stuff, I'm like, buddy, 533 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 1: how this shit's expensive? So yeah, I can understand that. 534 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I think she could have dealt with it 535 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: a bit better and actually listened to the episode anyway, 536 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: I digress. Yeah, that's the thing. As much as it 537 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: would be great to reduce the cost of your wedding. 538 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: I can also understand why Brooke couldn't want to feel 539 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: obligated to post on a wedding day. And I've been 540 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: getting into bride talk and there's literally some influencers who 541 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: look like they've spent their whole wedding day creating tiktoks 542 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: for future content. And I've seen these and I literally think, 543 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: did you actually enjoy yourself or you're just thinking about 544 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: what's going to make a good TikTok? Because there's some 545 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: that they start off in their wedding pajamas with their 546 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: bridesmaids and then there's like a transition and they're in there, 547 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: and I think it's kind of cool, But then when 548 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: you start going through the feed and there's like, oh, 549 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,479 Speaker 1: and here's my special moment where I'm eating dinner with 550 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: my husband privately, and here's our first look and everything's filmed. 551 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: I get that people have a videographer on the day, 552 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: but I feel like with these tiktoks, it's actually there's 553 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: more work personally for you to come up with the 554 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: tiktoks and create them. I wonder if this is a 555 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: bit of a side business. Well, on this American wedding 556 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: podcast I listen to, they said that you actually should 557 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: hire a social media person or ask one of your 558 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: friends to capture stuff on social media, and to be truthful, 559 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: actually wrote it into my note section as that's a 560 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: good idea, and that's not to capture tiktoks, but it's 561 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: to capture vision of your table or oh when you're 562 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: not there, what your guests are doing, because I think 563 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: it would be nice to look back on. And for me, 564 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: I always find it intriguing because at a lot of 565 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: weddings they say or is a social media blackout. I 566 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: don't want your filming anything, put your phone away, which 567 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: I understand because you want people to enjoy the moment. 568 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: But that being said, at my wedding, I want everyone 569 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: to have their phone out because I want to see 570 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: that vision. Yeah, exactly. And the thing is, I can 571 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: imagine it's like when you go to any good event, 572 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: you get home and you look through the photos and 573 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: videos and reminiscent about it, and it takes so long 574 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: for you to get your wedding photos and your wedding 575 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: video that you want all that content. Look, Sophie, pull 576 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: my hand up. I can be that person on your 577 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: wedding day? Could you be mine? Because Sophie is very 578 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: very good at filming Instagram content, I think as a 579 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: part of your job as a PR manager. I feel 580 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: like we could literally talk about weddings all day. But 581 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: let's get back to the Q and A. So Brook 582 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: also opened up about her fashion brand Lemon. The followers 583 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 1: anonymously asked if Brooke earns a wage from the brand, 584 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: and also asked how much she's invested in the company now. 585 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: She confirms she doesn't take a wage from either Lemon 586 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: or her pilates business, which I found quite surprising, and 587 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: she instead said that she relies on her modeling, ambassador 588 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: and social media jobs for her income. And as for 589 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: how much she's invested in her fashion brand, she said 590 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: she wouldn't reveal the exact figures because it's private. However, however, 591 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: she admitted that she's made a lot of mistakes and 592 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: with the pandemic on top of it, it has added 593 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: up pretty quickly now. She also clarified that she solely 594 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: owns the company and doesn't have any financial investors. She 595 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: said she did want to clear that up because she 596 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: had heard a few rumors around the place. Now. While 597 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of flaws with this anonymous not gonna 598 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: lie questions, I think they've been pretty great from a 599 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: perspective of giving influences the ability to set the record straight. 600 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: It's also given the general public the ability to ask 601 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: what we really want to hear without getting blocked. And 602 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: it seems like there's this been this real fixation on 603 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: Brooks brand ever since it launched, and I feel like 604 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: Brooks brand has one mile vibes because in the sense 605 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: that she seems to be taking it really seriously and 606 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: looking for brand longevity rather than making a quick buck. 607 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: And I remember back when brook first launched the brand 608 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: at the start of the year that some people were 609 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: annoyed because she released a sarong that was really expensive. 610 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: And I just think it's because people are so used 611 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: to influencers lending their names to cheap, fast fashion brands 612 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: that when an influencer brand has expensive items, it just 613 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,239 Speaker 1: blows my mind, like people can't seem to get it. 614 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: And a lot of people seem to be overlooking the 615 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: fact that Lemon has been launched as a luxury slow 616 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: fashion brand made in Australia and brook is just one 617 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: of many influencers that are now pivoting away from fast fashion, 618 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: and I think that's something that should be applauded. I 619 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: agree with you, Kate. When that whole Sarong incident happened, 620 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: just like people were desperate to criticize something. It was 621 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: a bit of tall poppy syndrome. And Brooke did reiterate 622 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: during the Q and A that the prices she charges 623 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: are actually too low and she hasn't made a dollar 624 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: profit off the brand and won't for many years to come. 625 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: So she explained that Lemon's items are low quantity and 626 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: made in Australia with quality fabrics. The thing is, I 627 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: think the prices are very on part with Australian brands 628 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: like beckham Bridge and shown a joy like. I don't 629 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: understand why people are going nuts about it, and I 630 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: think it's a part of the marketing too, because when 631 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: I went to have a look at her brand, I 632 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: was like, oh, this stuff looks really nice because it 633 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: has got my end expensive, high end feel about it 634 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: and it has the price tag that makes you think, well, 635 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: they must be good quality. L Darby has revealed she 636 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: decided to cancel her lavish wedding to fiance Connor Swift. Instead, 637 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: the controversial UK influencers are set to wed abroad in 638 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: a simpler ceremony that she says represents their love better. 639 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: Does something smell fishy to UK? It definitely does. It's 640 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: all very odd, from the clickbaita YouTube title to the 641 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: excuses provided so during the daily vlog style video, Elle 642 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: casually dropped while unboxing parcels that everything in her life 643 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 1: shifted when she went offline, which appears to be code 644 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: for being canceled. So she explained. Originally that her and 645 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: con wanted a big, party style wedding that everyone would 646 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: rave about and never forget. However, the expensive wedding no 647 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: longer fitted in with their morals or goals in life now, 648 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: Elle said. After talking about what they wanted in life 649 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: and the types of people they are, they realized that 650 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: their wedding wasn't going to be a good representation of 651 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: their love. So seven months out from the big wedding, 652 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: she ended up having to cancel everything and this included 653 00:33:54,840 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: the venue, events, stylists, photographer, musicians, flores, church, even her dress, 654 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: she said, got canceled. And this is all despite the 655 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: deposits being paid. So it's completely wild for me to 656 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: even think about. Now they've completely changed their plans and 657 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: are getting married overseas in what Elle says is a 658 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 1: sentimental spot. She said that the wedding will be small 659 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: and only people they love and adore will be invited. 660 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: She also revealed they'll be having a civil ceremony in 661 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: the UK with people who can't attend the wedding overseas. 662 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: Do you think it's because a lot of people don't 663 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: want to come to the wedding anymore because of the 664 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: association with the racism and negativity. I wonder if that's 665 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: why they're like, God, we've got no friends left. We've 666 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: got to make it a smaller affair. Ah, definitely. And 667 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: the thing is she kept trying to pass it off 668 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: as if this was the decision that they had made. 669 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: But I feel like it's not entirely her choice because 670 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 1: there was all of these little bits of her language 671 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: indicating negativity. So, for example, she called it a first 672 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: world problem and then kept talking with this mantra that 673 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: everything happens for a reason. Now we've just spoken about 674 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: how brook Hogan was sponsored with a gifted wedding dress. 675 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: Do we think that perhaps Elle had a very fancy 676 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: wedding designer locked in and she was being gifted the item, 677 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: but that brand no longer wants to associate with her, 678 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: So maybe that's a bit of a spanner in the 679 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: works as well. Oh, I definitely think that this wedding 680 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: had a lot of sponsorship deals in the work, and 681 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: now that they are no longer desirable from a sponsorship perspective, 682 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: these sponsors have fallen through, and perhaps LL and Con 683 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: can no longer afford to put on the wedding without 684 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: this boost up from sponsorship dollars. I mean maybe in 685 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: general they've lost a lot of money and can no 686 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: longer afford to have a lavish wedding. I do think 687 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 1: they would have enlisted the help of a PR manager 688 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: for their brand reputation, and perhaps the person has also said, look, 689 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: a huge, flashy wedding is not a good look for you. 690 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 1: I think it would have been a combination of things. 691 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: The thing is, though everyone loves the wedding, like even 692 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: the flashy are the better in terms of influences. I mean, 693 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: I know she's had this negativity around her, but they 694 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: went on some flashy am American trip and posted all 695 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: about it. And seem to not get much backlash, So 696 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't think it has anything to do with it 697 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: from a PR perspective, and I totally disagree Kate. I 698 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: think people are looking for reasons to hate her at 699 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: the moment, So her putting on this pretentious, flashy wedding 700 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: as if nothing has changed, as if her life is 701 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: still perfect, I don't think it would be a good 702 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: look for her at all. Oh, I definitely understand that, 703 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: and I agree. I don't think from a PR perspective, 704 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: it's a great move. But the thing is, I don't 705 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: think that's why they've canceled it, because they've had all 706 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: these flashy Hen's parties and stag duos and stuff. It's 707 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: not like they've not been flashy at all. I did 708 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: think another reason, because they kept pointing out that it 709 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: was seven months before the wedding that they decided to 710 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: cancel it all. I thought there have been some cheating rumors. 711 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: I wonder if maybe Lle got wind of some cheating 712 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: rumors and was like, that's it, I'm canceling everything. Like 713 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: you just never know what's actually going on behind the scenes. 714 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: I am excited to see how this wedding does play out. Well, 715 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: So if I have thoroughly enjoyed chatting about weddings with you. 716 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: To finish off this episode, some dedicated listeners who can 717 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: actually tell our voices apart will recognize that Amy dropped 718 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: off in the end of that topic. She had to 719 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 1: go finish off some work. Aka, we had a big fight. 720 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: Things did get a little bit heated us our old 721 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: catch used to say, And it's funny. We did get 722 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: some of those anonymous questions through last week and one 723 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: of the questions a listener wrote was can you please 724 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: air some of your arguments? And I don't think we'd 725 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: have a podcast anymore if some of these were aired 726 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: they get Maybe we should do like gusting to each other. 727 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: Maybe we should do that YouTube thing. If this podcast 728 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: gets X amount of downloads, we will air all of 729 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: the dirty arguments and fights. How about that. Yeah, that's 730 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: a good idea. 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