WEBVTT - ASK UNCUT - A guide to flirting

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands

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<v Speaker 1>were never seated. We pay our respects to their elders

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<v Speaker 1>past and present.

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<v Speaker 2>Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was

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<v Speaker 2>recorded on de rug Wallamuta Land. Hi guys, and welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back to another episode Life UNKA. I'm Laura, I'm Brittany.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you Brittany?

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<v Speaker 3>It just boggles me.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on, I'm gonna lean know over as we speak

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<v Speaker 1>to turn my mic up.

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<v Speaker 3>It boggles me that we've.

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<v Speaker 1>Been doing this for four years and it still takes

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<v Speaker 1>us so long to set up what we want, like

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<v Speaker 1>the mic, the levels and everything but going to change.

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<v Speaker 2>You seem like you're shocked by this, But like I

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<v Speaker 2>would have thought that after four years you would have

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<v Speaker 2>just become used to the fact that we still.

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<v Speaker 1>I am shocked because four years is a degree, Like

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<v Speaker 1>we could have done a degree in this and we

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<v Speaker 1>still can't figure out the bloody knobs.

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<v Speaker 2>If only we had spent more time being productive in

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<v Speaker 2>our life, not talking about breakups and shit.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you on?

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<v Speaker 4>Great?

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's almost holiday time for me, holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>One of us is holiday because you're going to see

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<v Speaker 2>Ben and therefore it's a holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>But with Bay, yeah, I caught holiday and actually you're

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<v Speaker 1>vomiting your mouth day to each other.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, can't wait for holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>Regular bread is fine. Maybe regular Ben not fine.

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<v Speaker 3>No, because I've seen regular Ben.

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<v Speaker 4>Ben's pretty chill. He's great, He's so chill.

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<v Speaker 1>But I read something today that was concerning Actually, I

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<v Speaker 1>read something in like one of those psychology todays. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have more than two orgasms a day, you're

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<v Speaker 1>like a psychopath or somewhere something that was and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, holy shit, do they know what holiday breed is?

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<v Speaker 5>Psychopath?

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<v Speaker 2>You're allowed to have five orgasms a day when you're

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<v Speaker 2>visiting your long distance boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 4>That's like any honeymoon period, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's why I was concerned, as Holiday brit as psychopath?

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<v Speaker 4>Do know? Yeah? Probably maybe?

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<v Speaker 2>But also who's maintaining Who is maintaining a two orgasm

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<v Speaker 2>a day average throughout a law term relationship all like.

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<v Speaker 3>Their whole life, like consistently twice a day.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, because twice a day is probably not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in quick successions, so it's probably gonna be like

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<v Speaker 1>once in the morning, once at night.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's like bang bang, which.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't mean you have to be having sex, like

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<v Speaker 2>when we say orgasm, you're doing this to yourself, Like

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<v Speaker 2>this is all on you.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a really good ask on cut surrounding that

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<v Speaker 1>today actually, but we'll get into the okay, rah, Well

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into answering.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're deep, you're dark, and you're burning questions. You

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<v Speaker 2>know the reason why you came here. We'll do what

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<v Speaker 2>we do every week, which is talk for way too long. First,

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<v Speaker 2>I have something I need.

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<v Speaker 4>To tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been duped. I got duped, I got tricked. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm that person. You know those people are like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll never guess what happened. I'm the person actually tries

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<v Speaker 1>to guess.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm scammed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm trying to think of what you would have

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<v Speaker 2>got duped or scammed on. Not a regular scam, not

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<v Speaker 2>an Australia post. Hey click the link and add your

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<v Speaker 2>detail and then I'll take all your money. No, not

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<v Speaker 2>a scam like that. So okay, recently I moved into

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<v Speaker 2>a new house. Now, the thing thing that I was

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<v Speaker 2>likeing this it's beautiful. I was the garden it is

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<v Speaker 2>it's a Magical fairy Land. I'm sure all the girls

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<v Speaker 2>in the girls imagination. That is like the fire Away Tree.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember the Faraway Tree? No Roald Dahl classic. You never

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<v Speaker 2>read it? Roll Dah, Yeah, Roald Dahl. Is it Rowell

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<v Speaker 2>or is it roll? No Roald Dahl. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>Roll Dahl. Whatever, the far Away Tree? How did you

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<v Speaker 2>not read it?

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<v Speaker 4>Dick and Fanny? What their names would?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you didn't read it The Magical Fireway Tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on, the character's names are Dick and Fanny. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but Moonface and sawcepan head.

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<v Speaker 4>People know.

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<v Speaker 2>If Roll Dahl wrote a book and the main fucking

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<v Speaker 2>characters were Dick and Fanny, that guy has some issues.

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<v Speaker 1>What was Dick and Fanny were names back then? Fanny

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<v Speaker 1>was a common name. They may have been names back then.

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<v Speaker 1>But he knew what he was doing. Oh, In Blighton

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a Roll d In Blyton. She was a great

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<v Speaker 1>kid's book, so Roll Dahl. He didn't write about Dick

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<v Speaker 1>and Fanny, but Enid.

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<v Speaker 4>Was a sick go.

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<v Speaker 2>He went on to write some adult romance novels after

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<v Speaker 2>Dick and Fanny.

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<v Speaker 1>It is actually a really great book for you to

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<v Speaker 1>read the kids. If you haven't read it, it is

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<v Speaker 1>so so magical. So I'm pretty sure this could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure they've had to change names. They've changed

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<v Speaker 1>names now and like as adults, and they've re hang

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<v Speaker 1>on Producercations found something. The main characters are Joe, Bessie,

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<v Speaker 1>and Fanny, but it's been updated to Franny. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know that's really sad that you can't even have a

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<v Speaker 1>name in a book called.

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<v Speaker 4>Fanny because it wasn't it? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>The story is so the garden is so pretty, and

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<v Speaker 2>I am I am terrible with plants, but this is

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<v Speaker 2>my new passions.

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<v Speaker 4>It's keeping plants alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Having luxurious, blossoming, beautiful, healthy plants is my new hobby.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be one of those old people that

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<v Speaker 2>love to garden, and I'm okay with that. But then

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<v Speaker 2>I went out into the garden to do my gardening,

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<v Speaker 2>to do some weeding, because that's what I do on

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<v Speaker 2>all weekend. You and the plants in the back of

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<v Speaker 2>the garden, along the whole side of.

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<v Speaker 3>The fence, fake are dying, And I was like, what

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<v Speaker 3>is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>And every week they're slight like they're dying more it's

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<v Speaker 2>getting worse and worse. And I was like, maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>need some water, so I did that, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they need some fertilizers, so he did that. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>they're now pretty much dead, and I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I might just pull one out and see what's going on.

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<v Speaker 6>They're not real trees, they're just sticks. The guy who

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<v Speaker 6>owned the house, what are you mean cut? He'd basically

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<v Speaker 6>gone and gotten all these yuckers and just cut the

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<v Speaker 6>yuckers so it was just the branch of the yucker,

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<v Speaker 6>and he'd stuck the branch.

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<v Speaker 4>In the ground to make it look like it was.

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<v Speaker 3>No, Laura, that's how you grow yuckers.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't pull them out they're dead.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you just cut the stem and put the yucky in.

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<v Speaker 4>They're all dead, all of them. No, you tend dead yuckers.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how you pan yuckers. But they're not growing, they're

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<v Speaker 4>just dying.

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<v Speaker 1>You can cut a stem off the yucker and reput

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<v Speaker 1>it in the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>That's absolutely how you grow them.

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<v Speaker 4>But they're all dead. They haven't grown root.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not from the guy.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't jupe you, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how you can grow yakut okay, Well, anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>You're like, I got double y jike. I jipped myself.

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<v Speaker 2>When I said that gardening's my new passion. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know anything about it though, like I know, it's just started. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>we have lots of things to talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>Today. I came across an article which I wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>talk to you about.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason why is because, Britt, I feel out

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<v Speaker 2>of everybody who participates in life on cart there's three

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<v Speaker 2>of us and Mitch Jury.

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<v Speaker 4>You are the best flirter.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you not an akolai. Do you know how

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<v Speaker 2>to flirt better than anyone? I am an awkward flirter.

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<v Speaker 2>I am a terrible, terrible flirt I never ever got

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<v Speaker 2>better at it, I don't think, which is surprising that

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<v Speaker 2>I managed to find a husband who stayed around.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he was like, well he was locked in

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<v Speaker 3>a mansion. He didn't choose to stay around you all

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<v Speaker 3>locked there for three months.

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<v Speaker 2>You're endearingly terrible at this, Yeah, but he kept me around.

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<v Speaker 4>You're war emmed out. I did, I did, but you, Britt,

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<v Speaker 4>are very good at it. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is an article that's been written by a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five year old bisexual bartender, so she's.

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<v Speaker 4>Flirting with both sexes.

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<v Speaker 2>Now she's written out the steps of what she thinks

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<v Speaker 2>are the most important parts of what makes someone a

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<v Speaker 2>good flirt. Number one, don't give your life story. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I always give a little bit too much.

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<v Speaker 2>I usually end up talking about my ex's on a

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<v Speaker 2>first date, which is not recommended.

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<v Speaker 4>For one golden raw, just a little bit. I just

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<v Speaker 4>talk about them a little bit. It makes people feel comfortable, No.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't. It's like, why is she on a date?

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<v Speaker 1>We've me talking about her ex? Okay, from this moment forward,

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<v Speaker 1>as a listener, you listen to me and not la.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, At what point in dating would you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>an X on a date?

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<v Speaker 1>If and only if they ask you about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you give them a little bit and you don't make

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<v Speaker 1>it emotional, very factual.

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<v Speaker 3>The last person I dated was probably six months ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't end well though, Like that's a whole nother story.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's a couple of dates away. You do

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<v Speaker 1>not sit there for the rest of a date and

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<v Speaker 1>spill your trauma about what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Trauma dumping is not a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this one time we had been out and

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<v Speaker 1>then we got into a really big fight, and like, no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you don't want to go into the details of

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<v Speaker 2>the nitty gritty, but you give big picture things.

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<v Speaker 1>No, okay, I do not go on a first date

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<v Speaker 1>and say I am going to have the Sydney Rock

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<v Speaker 1>Oysters please, and then you see he had this double

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<v Speaker 1>life and I didn't know about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't do that, Okay. Obviously this is an easy one.

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<v Speaker 2>Eye contact really works, but make it subtle. Don't eye contact.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there is a fine line. There's a fine

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<v Speaker 2>line between sexy and creep. That fine line sits somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>in the fact that one you have to already be

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<v Speaker 2>slightly attracted to the person. Like if you're not attracted

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<v Speaker 2>to the person and they're making intense eye contact with you,

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<v Speaker 2>it is very off putting.

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<v Speaker 4>Stop trying to make eye contact with me. Now, did

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<v Speaker 4>you just see what I do? Like this?

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<v Speaker 3>I do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I just did it. I just did it.

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<v Speaker 3>While you're talking asholoaded with you in my eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>You do this and your lashing I lid raise a little, eyebrows,

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<v Speaker 2>not eyebrows, just a little, and you know what you do.

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<v Speaker 4>You gotta describe it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to do it to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, it's not a visual medium.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at the eyes for a minute and then

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<v Speaker 1>you do a little smile, and then you glance down

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<v Speaker 1>to the lips and then you look back up to

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<v Speaker 1>the eyes.

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<v Speaker 4>It is how you do it. No, that's a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So men particularly respond really well when you've subtly glanced

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<v Speaker 1>at their lips.

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<v Speaker 3>That's actually that's from flirting school.

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<v Speaker 4>So there is this thing which is like, let's talk

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<v Speaker 4>about the golden try it.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely did not attend the golden triangle of the face. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the golden triangle of your face is your eyes, your nose,

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<v Speaker 2>your mouth, and you're meant to just go between those

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<v Speaker 2>three zones. So you flick between looking into their eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you wish because you have to go

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<v Speaker 2>between both. Look at the mouth, look at the nose,

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<v Speaker 2>look at the mouth, look at the eyes, look at

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<v Speaker 2>the nose.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't just a couple of glances to the lips.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the key and a little smirk like I

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<v Speaker 1>was flirting with you before I said it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>could tell.

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<v Speaker 4>You I was like, I know what you're doing right now,

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<v Speaker 4>you fucking creep.

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<v Speaker 1>And then conversely to that, to make someone feel really awkward,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at their forehead.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you know that?

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<v Speaker 1>So when you're talking to someone, if you look over

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<v Speaker 1>at their forehead, they immediately think that something's wrong. Really yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because no one looks up at the forehead. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>you think that you've got something on there or it's

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<v Speaker 1>so if you want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Make someone feel awkward, you look up at their feat

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe if you want to do the anti flirt,

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<v Speaker 2>you steer at someone's forehead and definitely don't look at

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<v Speaker 2>their mouth. And then obviously this is very I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like if you're getting positive affirmations from the

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<v Speaker 2>eye contact and the mouth and the up and down

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<v Speaker 2>and the golden triangle, try some light touching. Try some

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<v Speaker 2>light touching. Touch their knee, touch their arm, places that

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<v Speaker 2>are consentually Okay, don't grote them yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm big on that one, but I could probably give

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<v Speaker 1>away too much when I'm not interested because my love

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<v Speaker 1>language is physical touch. But I do that with my

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<v Speaker 1>friends even like I'm quite a if someone's close to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I will laugh and touch that leg, even if it's

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<v Speaker 1>a friend or whatever. Like I'm quite physical, but a

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<v Speaker 1>little touch goes a long way, And particularly I think

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<v Speaker 1>the leg or you know that like cliche laugh if

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<v Speaker 1>you lean into them and laugh and just put your

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<v Speaker 1>hand on their arm, I think that.

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<v Speaker 2>Works as well. Look how much you're loving this. This

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<v Speaker 2>is such like your area of expertise.

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<v Speaker 1>If I did this for ten years, I like successfully

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<v Speaker 1>the girl honed her skills.

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<v Speaker 4>I know these are very obvious ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get too drunk on a first date, or if

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<v Speaker 2>you like someone also offered to pay, even if it's

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, I know that sometimes when we've spoken

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<v Speaker 2>about who pays on a first date, and like the

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<v Speaker 2>gender norms, but I actually do think it goes a

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<v Speaker 2>long way as a female to kind of flip it

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<v Speaker 2>and offer to pay for a drink or something. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to pick up the whole tab, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do think it shows a level of investment and

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<v Speaker 2>interest if you at least offer to pay for their tab.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm big on this, but because I get quite awkward

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<v Speaker 1>with money, I always have been, I'll often pay at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, or I will at least be offering, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not an offer, It's not like a throwaway offer.

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<v Speaker 1>I genuinely want to Ben. The weekend that I met Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>we all know we spent this lovely weekend together.

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<v Speaker 4>I bought the.

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<v Speaker 1>First dinner because it was just takeaway, right like, he

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<v Speaker 1>was coming to my house and I just ordered in,

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<v Speaker 1>so like's stand it.

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<v Speaker 4>I paid for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but also the guy was coming over for a

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<v Speaker 2>one night stare and you bought him a chicken snitzel.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, hang on.

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<v Speaker 3>What I probably haven't told you guys is I hadn't

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<v Speaker 3>met Ben yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I sent Ben when he was in the uber to

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<v Speaker 1>my house and i'd never met him to have sex.

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<v Speaker 1>I sent him the menu of a restaurant I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to order from, and I said, pick you want,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to pre order some food. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>give him some sustenance because I thought we're up for

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<v Speaker 1>a big night, so he had the menu as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But I paid for that dinner. And then the next

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<v Speaker 1>day we went and got some coffees and stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>I just ordered for him and paid, and he mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that laid down the track. He didn't want me to,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, just let me, like, you're at

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<v Speaker 1>my house, let me paying. He mentioned, He's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember you paying for that is what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, it actually goes a long way. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to go over the top, but like a coffee

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<v Speaker 1>and a cake or whatever, like the little things I

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<v Speaker 1>think sometimes really last week, I think it's the gesture

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<v Speaker 1>just not the expectation is the bigger thing. Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I think often you know, people will offer back and

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine and you can take them up on it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the gesture of offering and being okay

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<v Speaker 1>with paying if you know, if they say that turns

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<v Speaker 1>out to be the case. But it's that gesture rather

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<v Speaker 1>than the expectation that I think is important. Now, one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that is not listed on this and I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to get your opinion on nagging. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I bring up nagging is because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it has very negative connotations, i e.

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<v Speaker 4>Negging negative. So the idea that like if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Like someone, you will be a little bit sarcastic or

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit like make fun of almost as a

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<v Speaker 2>way of flirting. The reason why I think that this

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<v Speaker 2>is a tricky one to kind of, you know, navigate,

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<v Speaker 2>is because we have been told and I think when

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<v Speaker 2>you grow up, when you're a kid that that whole

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<v Speaker 2>rhetoric of like a boy is mean to you because

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<v Speaker 2>they like you, and then we have overcorrected that nobody

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<v Speaker 2>should ever nag, because you know, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>reinforce this idea that when people are mean to you,

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<v Speaker 2>it's because they like you. But I think that there

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<v Speaker 2>is a very healthy, very fine line where a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of sarcasm is acceptable and a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>flirtatious banter is fine. However, everybody's line is very, very different,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to be careful to tread lightly to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out where that person's boundaries are. Because the minute

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<v Speaker 2>that you overstep someone's comfort zone when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>negging and you're actually just a bit mean or critical,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when you've instantly gone too far, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking turn off in a red flag.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a little bit of this lighthearted, sarcastic banter

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<v Speaker 1>is perfect, and I mean like that's inherently like I

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<v Speaker 1>flirt with humor more than anything. That's who I am

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<v Speaker 1>and how I am. But I just think it can't

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<v Speaker 1>be too personal. You're right, there is a line that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't cross, and I think it can't be too

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<v Speaker 1>personal because it could very much hit.

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<v Speaker 4>A saw point with people.

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<v Speaker 1>But fuck yeah, I want someone to make fun of me,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as it's not like really wildly offensive.

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<v Speaker 4>It also comes from a level of truck.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, so when A Matt and I first started dating,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like the first week that we'd been thrown

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<v Speaker 2>out of the whirlwind of the Bachelor and we were

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<v Speaker 2>like properly together, and I remember making a joke about

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<v Speaker 2>something and to me it was a joke, like it

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<v Speaker 2>was me negging him and he was so offended and

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't in context. Now like if I was to

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<v Speaker 2>make the same joke, he would not care because he

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<v Speaker 2>knows me, and there's a safety there. But I do

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<v Speaker 2>think you have to be very very careful with it

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<v Speaker 2>because the line is so fine, and for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people, I would say that, you know, making fun

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<v Speaker 2>of or making humor around someone else's expense is not funny.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think you tread a very fine line. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you can someone who has a similar sense of

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<v Speaker 2>humor and you know, can do it in a way

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<v Speaker 2>where it's also self deprecating, it's not just making fun

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<v Speaker 2>of or putting down, then that's where the difference is.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think because we have, you know, the conversations

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<v Speaker 2>around people being mean, and that being a reflection of

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<v Speaker 2>them liking you is such a dangerous notion that I

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<v Speaker 2>think we have overcorrected.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, do you remember a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess two years ago. This makes me sound like

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<v Speaker 1>a wanker, but I'm gonna say it because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny. I went on this one date with this

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<v Speaker 1>person from Hollywood, like he's a movie star and he

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<v Speaker 1>was in Australia filming a movie. And I've never said

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<v Speaker 1>who it is. I'm never gonna say who it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll just say it good because it will make headlines.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Just look up Daily Mail and you'll figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>They got packed together.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, not him, you've even forgotten. You'll remember when

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you. He took me to this amazing restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>in the city and then we'll go into this big

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<v Speaker 1>party afterwards that had like some fancy people there, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, you know, this is just a

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<v Speaker 1>random ones in a lifetime thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to go with it.

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<v Speaker 3>But this guy was like being really lovely to me,

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<v Speaker 3>really was like, and he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Around for a while. He wanted to keep seeing me

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<v Speaker 1>while he was here. Anyway, the date had been going

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<v Speaker 1>for about six hours by this point. We're outside on

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<v Speaker 1>the balcony and he was trying to flirt and he

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<v Speaker 1>said to me, you've just got such a masculine energy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was not sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like just saying about you so manly, and I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, did he mean that as a compliment. Yes, he

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to sleep with me, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so. I was like, oh, that's quite offensive, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, no, it's hot, and I was like.

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<v Speaker 4>One of us is confused here.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I can't put my finger on it, telling

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<v Speaker 1>about you so masculine.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, of course, I slept with him that it did

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<v Speaker 4>me doggy for two hours, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm so confused by your idea of flirting.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember because I was offended.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so offended because for me, I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to I was trying to be who I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to be I'm feminine, That's what I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>But he just kept telling me how masculine and I

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<v Speaker 1>was because and then he was like, you're so strong,

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<v Speaker 1>and I.

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<v Speaker 4>Was like, what are you talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think that it's problematic that we see in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of like beauty standards and like how we as

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<v Speaker 2>women feel attractive. That like, obviously I wouldn't use the

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<v Speaker 2>word masculine to describe.

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<v Speaker 4>A woman in the wrong word. It's the wrong word.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think this idea of like that you

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<v Speaker 2>need to be a pretty little, tiny feminine is.

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<v Speaker 4>Well I'm not that. I get that.

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<v Speaker 2>It also shouldn't be the only beauty standard that's attainable

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<v Speaker 2>all that we're driving for totally.

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<v Speaker 3>But he went on to talk about my quads and

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<v Speaker 3>like it was it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was he was calling me strong and athletic. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>like the wrong I could tell what he was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say. I meant athletic, but he said masculine, Yes, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that was where it went wrong. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember saying and I think I gave him

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<v Speaker 1>a lesson that night. I remember saying to him, just

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, moving forward in your life, I know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're trying to do, but this isn't it. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh really, And I'm like, no, You're like.

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<v Speaker 4>You never say this to someone. Just look in my

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<v Speaker 4>eyes and then look at the mouth and look back

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<v Speaker 4>up that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just look at triangle, buddy, feed me and look at

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<v Speaker 1>the triangle.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, well look we thought that out of

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<v Speaker 2>the way. I hope that somebody learnt something about flirting.

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<v Speaker 1>If you follow me on Instagram, this is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to surprise you. I am so blown away and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe I didn't do this two years ago. I've

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<v Speaker 1>spoken a lot about my dog Delilah and how she's amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>but she can't walk properly on a lead. She's never

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<v Speaker 1>been able to. I sent her to military school for

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks to learn to walk. Didn't work. I have

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<v Speaker 1>sent it to dog trainers locally in the day, didn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>I have done everything I can. I've tried no pool harnesses,

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried everything. She's just a maniac. She wants to

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<v Speaker 1>run around, she wants to say hello to everyone. She

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<v Speaker 1>wants to run to the park. She walks me and

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<v Speaker 1>I finally gave in to the halty. So many people

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<v Speaker 1>had recommended to me try the halty.

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<v Speaker 4>Try this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the walking lead that goes over their snout, around

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<v Speaker 1>their head and clips to their collar. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was restricting their snout like I thought it was almost

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<v Speaker 1>like a muzzle, but it's not at all. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop anything. The dog's exactly the same. They chase balls,

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<v Speaker 1>they eat, they drink. It doesn't restrict anything. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>that it's more like you know a horse when you're

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<v Speaker 1>training a horse.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>How that goes over there snow? Yeah, it's exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>same for a dog. Anyway, I finally got her one

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<v Speaker 1>this week. I put it on disaster. At the start,

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<v Speaker 1>she was jumping around like a maniac. She was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to scratch it off, rolling on the ground, scraping against walls.

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<v Speaker 1>But I stuck with it and I had trees and

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<v Speaker 1>I really worked on it, and it literally took one hour.

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<v Speaker 1>And she is the best dog I have ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not if you told me that you could

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<v Speaker 1>put this on her an hour later, she'll walk immaculately.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have called bullshit. But it is wild. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not sponsored. I had so many people riding to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never had so many responses to stories, being like,

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<v Speaker 1>was this really only an hour later?

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<v Speaker 4>Where do you get this?

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<v Speaker 1>It's literally halty. I don't think he's the brand. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's the style. Get it from anywhere. I went

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<v Speaker 1>to a pet store. I just went to pet Pine or.

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<v Speaker 4>Something and picked one up.

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<v Speaker 2>So is this meant to be that she only will

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<v Speaker 2>walk thatt away she's wearing it, or is it meant

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<v Speaker 2>to be a training mechanism or she always has to

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<v Speaker 2>wear it?

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<v Speaker 6>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Well different, So it's just a lead. You could wear

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<v Speaker 1>it every day forever and it doesn't do anything to them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a type of lead. But also a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of dogs might walk on it for a year or

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<v Speaker 1>so and then they just learn to walk side you.

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<v Speaker 1>And now the otion is do they meet them? In

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<v Speaker 1>children's size? Absolutely, you can muzzle you T welve. So

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<v Speaker 1>that is my one hundred percent probably the best recommendation,

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<v Speaker 1>best vibe I'm ever gonna have.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well I have a Netflix recommendation this week, even

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<v Speaker 2>though I said last week that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have a TV.

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<v Speaker 2>The irony in that is that last week I recommended

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<v Speaker 2>not having a TV, and then the day, the day

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<v Speaker 2>that we recorded that, I walked in the door Matt

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<v Speaker 2>to a big TV that Matt had just bought and

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<v Speaker 2>it had been delivered, So we now have a TV.

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<v Speaker 2>It was nice while it lasted I do recommend still

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<v Speaker 2>trying to minimize TV time, which we are doing, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's been like so much better. The kids are not

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<v Speaker 2>watching TV and they are not on iPads and it

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<v Speaker 2>has definitely changed our lives. But I am back on

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<v Speaker 2>TV and I watched it's a series that's on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 2>It is called Lived to Our Hundred Secrets of the

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<v Speaker 2>Blue Zone. I've started watching it. I'm a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>episodes into it. It is so interesting. So it's around

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<v Speaker 2>these blue zones throughout the world, and it's things that

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<v Speaker 2>these communities are doing, which mean that they have a

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<v Speaker 2>high population of centurians, so people who have lived to

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<v Speaker 2>over a century within their communities.

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<v Speaker 4>Japan is one, isn't it. There's one in Japan, there's

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<v Speaker 4>one in Sardinia.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the thing that's so interesting about this is that

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<v Speaker 2>these communities who have these high populations of people who

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<v Speaker 2>are over one hundred, it's not people who are living

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<v Speaker 2>and they are one hundred and they are elderly and unwell.

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<v Speaker 2>And what we see in Western society when we associate

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<v Speaker 2>old age, they are thriving, they have no levels of

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<v Speaker 2>dementia or Alzheimer's. They're not living in nursing homes. They're

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<v Speaker 2>living within their own communities, and it talks about the

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<v Speaker 2>things that are important within those communities that have contributed

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<v Speaker 2>to their longevity. And I guess what I love so

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<v Speaker 2>much about it is that in Western society we talk

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<v Speaker 2>so much about diet, exercise, and when people are elderly,

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<v Speaker 2>we shun them away. We talk about elderly as though

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<v Speaker 2>they're a burden. And that comes from both sides. It

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<v Speaker 2>comes from people who were old saying I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be a burden to my family, so I'll go

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<v Speaker 2>into a home, and it also comes from people saying, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we can't take care of them at home anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>so we had to put them in a home.

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<v Speaker 4>And that is very much the normal within our society.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that's different about these communities is that there

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<v Speaker 2>are no nursing homes and so the elderly are cared

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<v Speaker 2>for within the home structure. And I guess it pertains

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<v Speaker 2>to this idea that community is so important in giving

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<v Speaker 2>people purpose, in still having a job, in not retiring.

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<v Speaker 2>Another thing that was really beautiful about it that so

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<v Speaker 2>many of the communities they were gardening still. Hence, when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm into my garden. Now, guys, it also helped with longevity,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just think it's a really beautifully put together

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<v Speaker 2>documentary in docuseries, And I think it's so interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>so many of us would love to know the secret

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<v Speaker 2>what it is to live longer, and these are the

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<v Speaker 2>communities across the world that have figured out the secret.

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<v Speaker 2>Source produced a keisha when I were actually talking about

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<v Speaker 2>it and you had the same vibe.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I did.

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<v Speaker 5>I was absolutely obsessed with this, as you guys know,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm on my wellness journey, sleep journey. They did speak

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<v Speaker 5>about sleep in the sleep is important. That it was important,

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<v Speaker 5>But some other things that I thought were really interesting

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<v Speaker 5>is like, obviously, like you said, diet was a part

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<v Speaker 5>of it, but I expected that things like altitude. I

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<v Speaker 5>guess what I thought was so interesting was that these

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<v Speaker 5>places all had such different physical locations, so different altitudes,

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<v Speaker 5>different types of terrain, and the sense of purpose that

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<v Speaker 5>you're speaking about, and that social connection.

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<v Speaker 4>I really love that.

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<v Speaker 5>We have kind of traditionally thought about that as like

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<v Speaker 5>a psychological thing, but studies on these people who are

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<v Speaker 5>living to such long lengths of time are showing that

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<v Speaker 5>social connection actually has a physiological impact on your body.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that while we've kind of been quite

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<v Speaker 5>obsessed with what you put into your body in terms

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<v Speaker 5>of nutrition and the exercise that you do, I think

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<v Speaker 5>that social connection being equally as important, if not more,

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<v Speaker 5>is so incredibly interesting because I think in Western worlds

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<v Speaker 5>we don't have that in our culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And also this idea of like mastery, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like being like really skilled at a job.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we celebrate in Western culture this idea of

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<v Speaker 2>like retirement, get to seventy and retire, Whereas all of

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<v Speaker 2>these societies that had these centurians in them, they all

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<v Speaker 2>were working up until the day that they dropped dead.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're working throughout their old age because it

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<v Speaker 2>keeps them going, it keeps their brains back.

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<v Speaker 3>Did I don't want to work till I dropped dead?

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<v Speaker 4>Fuck?

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<v Speaker 3>Like when we live in my best life.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're working on things that they love, on things

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<v Speaker 2>that they get joy from, you know, not like they're

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<v Speaker 2>not slogging it out, like digging holes and stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>building wells and things.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess there was also this idea that usually

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<v Speaker 2>when you're wealthy, that wealthy people have the ability to

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<v Speaker 2>live longer because they have access to healthcare systems and

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<v Speaker 2>everything else. But some of these communities that they looked

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<v Speaker 2>into were actually some really poor communities but had some

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<v Speaker 2>really incredible life spans. And it was all around, as

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<v Speaker 2>you said, keature, this sense of purpose and this sense

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<v Speaker 2>of community.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved it.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's on Netflix. It's called Live to one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>Secrets of the Blue Zone. I think it's four episodes.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah right, Yeah, I really enjoyed it too. I have

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<v Speaker 5>an unsubscribed for this week.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, what are you hating?

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<v Speaker 5>I am hating on people who list things on things

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<v Speaker 5>like Facebook Marketplace.

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<v Speaker 4>I assume gum tree would be the same, but I

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<v Speaker 4>don't use that.

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<v Speaker 5>With descriptions of the item that include words like stunning, beautiful,

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<v Speaker 5>like an.

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<v Speaker 3>Example of words I like descriptive words.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it will be an example of Like let's say

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<v Speaker 5>it was a I've got a denim dress on right now.

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<v Speaker 5>So let's say I wanted to go and sell this

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<v Speaker 5>dress later this afternoon. If I were to post it

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<v Speaker 5>being like stunning denim dress, gorgeous buttons.

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<v Speaker 1>I would buy a stunning denim dress over a denim

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<v Speaker 1>dress any day, Kisha.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like do you remember when we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>the one percent better and your patients.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that this might be linking into that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at it and I'm like, stop trying to

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<v Speaker 3>sell it to me. They are trying to sell it

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<v Speaker 3>to you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on a.

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<v Speaker 5>Facebook marketplace to sell you. The draft puts me off

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<v Speaker 5>so much. If it was that stunning, you'd be keeping it.

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<v Speaker 5>If the buttons were that gorgeous, you wouldn't want to

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<v Speaker 5>be letting them.

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<v Speaker 4>Go from your wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 6>A case.

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<v Speaker 5>Stop trying to convince me of this item that you

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<v Speaker 5>no longer see value in.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon Producer Kation needs to go back and re

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the episode we did with Steve Bartlett and

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<v Speaker 1>rethink about her one percent.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm all about this recycling, reusing.

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<v Speaker 5>I sell them buy a lot of stuff secondhand, but

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want you to try and convince me of

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<v Speaker 5>its value by using descriptive words.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Kesha just doesn't like the hard sell. That's all

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<v Speaker 4>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get into the questions, we do want to

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<v Speaker 1>just very gently remind.

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<v Speaker 3>You and aggressively both that it's it's that time.

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<v Speaker 4>Of year again.

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<v Speaker 1>The Australian Podcast Awards now for us the podcasting world.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Oscar, This is the Logis. This is

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 1>like the award that gives you.

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<v Speaker 3>The warm, fuzzy feeling, the tingling downstairs. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>one that means the most to us.

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<v Speaker 1>That's actually just so important for us as individuals and

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<v Speaker 1>as a team and for life.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean when you say it's like the Logis, if

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<v Speaker 2>you've ever been to the Australian Podcast Awards, it's kind

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:11.959
<v Speaker 2>of like the ut look like the came up. Look

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<v Speaker 2>it's look, it's the sizzler of the logies. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>delicious and we are very much looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean last year. I remember I posted some videos

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<v Speaker 2>of the Podcast Awards last year and someone was like,

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<v Speaker 2>is this a bad school Paul recital?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it was like in a step fit.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, I know that it looks corny, and I

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 2>know it is even corny, being like it's the Podcast Awards.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is so like for our little weed industry

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<v Speaker 2>where we sit in rooms and record, you know, together.

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<v Speaker 2>It is so important to us and we are so

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly grateful for the last couple of years where you

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<v Speaker 2>guys have gotten behind life on caut you have given

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<v Speaker 2>us your vote for the Listener's Choice Award.

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<v Speaker 4>And now there are so many awards.

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<v Speaker 2>At the podcast, you know, and we never ever ever

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 2>even get nominated in the Sex and Relationships even though

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<v Speaker 2>we started off as a Sex and Relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>We never get nominated.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we never make it into our category. You guys

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<v Speaker 2>have always come through with the goods and you have

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<v Speaker 2>been so incredible in voting us for the Listener's Choice, so.

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<v Speaker 3>We can actually have a chance.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, and it's the one that we care about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the one that matters because it's basically you saying

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, you choose the podcast that you listen

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<v Speaker 2>to and that you've loved coming along the Life and

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<v Speaker 2>Cut journey.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, so a lot of the.

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<v Speaker 1>So you guys understand like a lot of the other awards,

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<v Speaker 1>because there are so many different awards and categories, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're all voted by industry professionals. This Listener's Choice Award

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<v Speaker 1>is the only award that is voted by I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say the people that matter, but the people

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.360
<v Speaker 1>that listen you guys, you guys that are consuming podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the ones that are saying, you know, we absolutely

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 1>love your podcast and it would mean so much to us.

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<v Speaker 3>Does it sound like we're begging?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? Are we begging?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>It would mean so much to us if you could vote,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's super easy. You just go to the Australian

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast Awards website and it will say who do.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to vote for? Listener's choice?

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>You type in Life Uncut and then you just have

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 1>to make sure you verify that in your email, so

0:28:57.720 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>it'll send you an email and say, did you really mean.

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<v Speaker 4>To vote for Life on Cut?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, it's got an annoying little last step that

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do. But like, look, if you've got

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<v Speaker 2>Burner accounts, you can vote for us from Motive multiple accounts.

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<v Speaker 3>We won't tell any university accounts, like any accounts.

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<v Speaker 2>But the one thing I do want to say is

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<v Speaker 2>I know that when we started this podcast, we started

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<v Speaker 2>recording this.

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<v Speaker 4>In my bedroom.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Mally was a newborn baby. She was under

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<v Speaker 2>the table. Britt was in her struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>Longer than table.

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<v Speaker 4>That sounds so bad.

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 2>She was literally under the table in a bouncer or

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<v Speaker 2>strapped to me, you were coming in in your scrull.

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<v Speaker 3>I would be on a twelve hour hospital shift.

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Laura's got the baby strapped to a titty and we

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<v Speaker 1>were still just trying to put this out just because

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<v Speaker 1>we loved them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we've been through this like incredible journey. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, four years on, I think some people think

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<v Speaker 2>that four years on we had this massive team around

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<v Speaker 2>us and that now because we do the radio show,

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<v Speaker 2>that we are like well into the radio world in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of podcasting. We I do just want everyone to

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<v Speaker 2>know that our entire life Uncut team is Britt, myself

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<v Speaker 2>and Keisha.

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<v Speaker 4>That is it.

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<v Speaker 2>We create this podcast, We put all the content together,

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Keisha edits every episode. I do second edit of everything.

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<v Speaker 2>We all book in ge like this whole podcast is

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<v Speaker 2>run by the three of us. There is no commercial

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<v Speaker 2>backing in terms of no of the creation of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you do and you feel as though you

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<v Speaker 2>would like to go and give us a vote, or

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<v Speaker 2>you've ever listened to an episode that's meant something to

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 2>you or touched you in some way, we would be

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<v Speaker 2>so so greatfull link that bio. Let's get into answering

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<v Speaker 2>your questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, question number one. I am currently on maternity leave,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm home a lot. We have a security camera

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<v Speaker 1>at our front door, that myself and my film say

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<v Speaker 1>get notifications for when someone's there.

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<v Speaker 3>However, my film.

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<v Speaker 1>Say is obsessed with looking at it every time it

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<v Speaker 1>goes off, literally every time, so it feels like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sort of being watched with whatever I do, and he'll

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<v Speaker 1>text me if someone comes over or if I leave

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<v Speaker 1>the house.

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<v Speaker 3>I made a comment a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Ago that it makes me feel a bit weird and

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<v Speaker 1>it's giving controlling vibes, and he was apologetic and said

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<v Speaker 1>it was absolutely not his intention. He said he will

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<v Speaker 1>stop looking at it, and he stopped commenting on every

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<v Speaker 1>time a notification went off. So now he's doing it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this normal? Is this just a modern technology thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Or does it sound a bit controlling? He shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to look at it for security reasons if I'm home.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, so it's for packages and stuff like when the

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<v Speaker 2>doorbell goes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a doorbell thing.

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>So what he's doing is he's seeing someone or something arrive.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets a notification and he goes to check out

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<v Speaker 1>just who it is that's coming to a place.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, to be fair, if I had something like

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<v Speaker 2>that set up, and my sister does, so that's why

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of like I can empathize. You get sent

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<v Speaker 2>a notification to your phone. So if I was being

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<v Speaker 2>sent a notification to my phone saying someone is at

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<v Speaker 2>your door, I'm gonna look at who's at my door,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, I'm gonna be curious. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>doing that because I'm checking it on Matt. I'm doing

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<v Speaker 2>it because I'm like, ooh, my phone told me someone's

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<v Speaker 2>at my door. It's like getting an Instagram notification where

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, ooh, I'm gonna check who's you know on

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 2>my Instagram commenting on something. I think the big thing

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<v Speaker 2>to check. I mean, before you kind of categorize this

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<v Speaker 2>as being controlling, I think that this is actually potentially

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<v Speaker 2>just him him being way too reactive to technology, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's like, he's got a little notification that's

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<v Speaker 2>come up. He's checking what's happening even though you're there

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<v Speaker 2>and he doesn't need to be doing it. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>the thing is, is he controlling in other ways? Are

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<v Speaker 2>there other things that he's doing Because this, in isolation

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<v Speaker 2>is not a red flag to me, But if he

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<v Speaker 2>is doing other things and you have been together for

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<v Speaker 2>any length of time and there have been other red flags,

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<v Speaker 2>along the way, then I would think that a bigger

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<v Speaker 2>picture might paint a controlling narrative, whereas this, in isolation,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that this is just like curiosity got the cat.

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<v Speaker 1>I completely agree, it's what's going hand in hand with

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<v Speaker 1>this behavior. If there's a lot of other behavior, where

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<v Speaker 1>have you been put your location services on your phone?

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<v Speaker 3>Report back to me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mat sure, you answer your phone when I'm calling,

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<v Speaker 2>or text with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But if there's none of that and he's just been reactive,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like holding a red flag in front

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<v Speaker 1>of a ball and being like, don't look. Of course

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna look, so we can't answer the rest of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just weird if he gets a notification and

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<v Speaker 1>checks who's there, No, especially when at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day he's thinking, Okay, my fiance and my newborn

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<v Speaker 1>baby is at home alone and there are people turning up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna check in what's the other behavior that

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<v Speaker 1>is displaying. If that is concerning, then they're red flag.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Or maybe he's just put so much stuff off

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<v Speaker 2>iconic lately and he's like, oh God, the delivery driver's

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<v Speaker 2>coming again. She's gonna know that I've been buying all

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<v Speaker 2>these pairs.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I think it's the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's at home buying from the Iconic and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, what are you ordering again? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, but like, okay, I do think that. And the

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<v Speaker 2>reason why I don't feel alarmed by this is because

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<v Speaker 2>I know, Okay, watch my sister do it every day

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<v Speaker 2>at work, Like whenever we're in the Tony May office,

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<v Speaker 2>she'll get a little notification. She'd be like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>can see the camera at home, someone's dropping off a

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<v Speaker 2>package or someone's doing this, Like she will always check

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<v Speaker 2>and her husband works from home, so I don't see

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<v Speaker 2>that as her being controlling of him. But like we

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<v Speaker 2>just said it, it paints a greater picture if there

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<v Speaker 2>are other factors that play here. I guess the one

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<v Speaker 2>thing you could do is tell them to turn notifications off,

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<v Speaker 2>because push notifications are an opt in thing, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>if you're at home, you don't want him to be

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<v Speaker 2>checking in it's unnecessary for him to do. So just

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<v Speaker 2>tell him to change the settings on his phone, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it won't be as tempting for him to like

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<v Speaker 2>look at the cameras every time someone comes to your

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<v Speaker 2>front door.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I just don't have a camera. I understand why

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<v Speaker 4>people have it now.

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<v Speaker 2>People have dash cams, they have cameras on their front door,

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:18.800
<v Speaker 2>people have cameras everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't, Yeah, I mean I do.

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>If you're listening cameras everywhere, back door, front door, dash cam.

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Brittany always has her house fully locked up tight too.

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<v Speaker 2>On the more about the safety Okay, anyway, question number two.

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<v Speaker 2>Last night at dinner, my partner told me he had

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<v Speaker 2>masturbated the night before as he was in the mood,

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<v Speaker 2>but I had fallen asleep. He always watches porn if

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to masturbate, which I'm totally fine with. However,

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<v Speaker 2>my question is this, is it weird for your partner

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<v Speaker 2>to masturbate while watching porn when you're in bed next

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<v Speaker 2>to them sleeping. I find it a little strange and

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 2>weird knowing he was getting off to some pawn while

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I was right there next to him, Not because it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't me he was getting off to, just the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that he did it while I was there sleep. As

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to explain this to him, he couldn't understand

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<v Speaker 2>why I thought it was weird.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's not ideal, is it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not ideal for him to be jacking off in

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<v Speaker 1>the bed while you're asleep, But he obviously just didn't

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>want to wake you up. He's obviously horny, you've gone

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep. Maybe he was trying to be considerate by

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<v Speaker 1>not quote unquote poking the bear.

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<v Speaker 3>Should he have gotten up and gone to the shower,

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 3>probably yeah, or like the.

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<v Speaker 4>Spare room or any other room.

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 3>But I think he probably didn't think it through and

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:28.280
<v Speaker 3>was probably lazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is a very big gray area because

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon that this is going to cover the full spectrum.

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<v Speaker 2>There are gonna be people who don't care, and there

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 2>are going to be people who would be really weirded

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<v Speaker 2>out by this and really really really think it's not

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<v Speaker 2>appropriate across a relationship boundary.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how I kind of see this. I think that

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 4>the scope is so great.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to start by saying, we have answered a

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 2>question similar before, where the question was is it okay

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 2>for my partner to masturbate without me knowing? Firstly, I

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 2>think it is totally fine for you to masturbate without

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.400
<v Speaker 2>telling your partner. If you of your hornting, do you

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:03.359
<v Speaker 2>want it? You can do whatever you want in your

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 2>own time. Wherever you want in your house. But I

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 2>think the issue is here. I would say that there

0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 2>would be a lot of people who would not feel

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 2>comfortable by their partner watching porn and masturbating next to them,

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:17.840
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's the fact you being asleep means

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 2>that you are not actively consenting to that happening, even

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.359
<v Speaker 2>though it's is his bed, even though he didn't mean

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.880
<v Speaker 2>anything by it, I'm sure even though it wasn't predatory

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 2>or any of those other things, if it made you

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 2>feel uncomfortable and you were literally unconscious, then I think

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 2>when you verbalize that you think it's weird, he shouldn't

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:37.479
<v Speaker 2>be saying it's not weird. He shouldn't be like gas

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 2>ladding you and saying it's not weird. You should be

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 2>fine with this. I think that the correct response to

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 2>this should have been, oh, I didn't realize it would

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 2>make you feel uncomfortable. I won't do it next to

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 2>you again. I'll go into another room. And I think

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 2>that for me, it's his response that makes me feel

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 2>more frustrated, rather than it happening is a once off,

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.840
<v Speaker 2>and maybe that being a misunderstanding or an assumption that

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 2>you would be fine with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Look, I don't think in all honesty, I don't

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>think it's that weird in terms.

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 3>Of I'd probably be okay with it.

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's a very personal thing in a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship because I put the shoe on the other foot,

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:15.240
<v Speaker 1>and I think, Okay, if my partner's in bed asleep,

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I've gotten home from work, like whatever, I end bed,

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm horny. Would I touch myself or would I say

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't touch myself because he's asleep. And I'd probably

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 1>touch myself, but I wouldn't see that as offensive as

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying, Laura, where it's like he's jacking off

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>next to you asleep. So I'm trying to put it

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 1>in that sense, but it's unique to every situation. What

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>are your boundaries in your relationship? Whether or not he

0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 1>thinks it's weird, he does have to accept that you've

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:41.840
<v Speaker 1>said you feel uncomfortable by it, so he doesn't have

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:43.920
<v Speaker 1>to be uncomfortable by it. But you've said you're uncomfortable

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 1>and he needs to accept that, and you probably need

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 1>to have a conversation if he does this again, it's

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna cause some serious problems.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you do if you woke up in the

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.319
<v Speaker 2>middle of the night and Ben was watching porn and

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 2>furiously masturbating in bed next to you does have to

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 2>be furiously furiously join in.

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 3>I'd probably join in.

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, it wouldn't be as big of a thing

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>for me. I'd probably be like, why didn't you wake me?

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:10.800
<v Speaker 1>But we're still also in the throes of the early relationship,

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>you know. I think it's different when it's you sleep deprived.

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 1>There's kids you've been to get a long time. You

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:16.360
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be woken up in the middle of

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>the night to have sex.

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I guess that's why I say, like, the

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 2>spectrum to this is going to be so big, because

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 2>there will be people who would be completely fine with it,

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.799
<v Speaker 2>and there would be people who will listen to this

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 2>who think it is a total betrayal and a boundary.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there are people that don't even like their partner

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 1>masturbating at all.

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 3>So of course it's the spectrum.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the issue here, and the reason why

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<v Speaker 2>that this person feels so weird about it is because

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 2>it's the not knowing. It's the waking up the next

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<v Speaker 2>day and them just so casually saying that this happened

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 2>next to them while they were unconscious. That's like, yeah,

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:49.400
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty fucking weird. If I found out that Matt

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 2>of a nighttime was masturbating next to me watching porn,

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:53.919
<v Speaker 2>I think I'd be a bit weirded out by it.

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Why not because I have an issue with him watching porn,

0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 2>and not because I have an issue with him masturbating,

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:00.959
<v Speaker 2>But I think it would be because it was within

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 2>my personal space and I wasn't conscious of it.

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<v Speaker 3>What if he was just like, oh, babe, I was

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 3>just so cold and I didn't want to get up

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 3>go downstairs to the bathroom.

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 4>He lazy bastard.

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I also think, just don't wake me up with the

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<v Speaker 3>sound of poorln either.

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:13.400
<v Speaker 4>I think it's disrespectful.

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I think he's prioritizing his comfort and his like laziness

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 2>and his you know, want to not have to get

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:21.319
<v Speaker 2>out of bed or go downstairs or whatever or go

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 2>into another room. So he's just like, oh, I'll get

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 2>away with it and you won't know because you're no.

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:28.879
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't think it's He doesn't think he's getting away

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 1>with anything, doesn't think it's a problem. He told her

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 1>about the next time true, like he's not sneaking around

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 1>and thinking like he's not getting off on the fact

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 1>he's sneaking around. He was like, by the way, I'm

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 1>mass bayed last night. I don't think he thinks he's

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>done anything wrong. It's not necessarily anything wrong. But at

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.279
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, you don't feel comfortable with it.

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:46.839
<v Speaker 1>So that's just what you need to tell him. And

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 1>for the future, if he wants to masturbate while you're asleep,

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>he needs to get up.

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, go somewhere else.

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I'd be interested to know what people's opinions are on

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 2>this as too, And I think if we did a poll,

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:56.839
<v Speaker 2>I think the votes would be very interesting to see

0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 2>who would be okay with it and who wouldn't be.

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 4>But I do you agree with you, Britt.

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 2>I think him telling you, like point blank that that's

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 2>what he did, then that suggests he does not even

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 2>think that it is remotely wrong. But at the end

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 2>of the day, the big conversation here around which there

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 2>is a conversation around consent. Here, you can't consent if

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 2>you're unconscious, and it doesn't matter if you're in a relationship,

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:22.320
<v Speaker 2>any sort of sexual relations should not just be assumed

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 2>because you're in a relationship, And I think if you're

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<v Speaker 2>the one saying to him that you find it weird,

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 2>it's not really his position to turn around and tell

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:29.360
<v Speaker 2>you it's not.

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 4>And I think that that's where the bigger conversation in

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 4>this is.

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 2>But I would love to know how everybody else listening

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 2>to this feels and what they would do if that

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 2>was their relationship.

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, I remember, I can't remember how long ago it was,

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:43.840
<v Speaker 1>would have been a year ago plus. We did a

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>poll on just masturbation in general, like are you happy

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 1>with your partner masturbating or does that make you upset

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 1>to think that they're masturbated in a day without you

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>when you're at work, And I was actually surprised how

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:58.240
<v Speaker 1>many people didn't want theirner masturbating without them. I found

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>that really surprising. So I think this pole would probably

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 1>lean similar to that.

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 2>No, And I think our response to that was that

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.800
<v Speaker 2>that's problematic, Like we shouldn't be putting restrictions and rules

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 2>on our mother's bodies and trying to dictate how they

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 2>pleasure themselves. I mean, like there's already enough rules, like

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 2>we're allowed to have autonomy over our own body and

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 2>our pleasure.

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 1>It's only unless they're masturbating instead of having any intimacy

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:22.719
<v Speaker 1>with you. Like if you know they're masturbating all day

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and then they don't want to touch you or have

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 1>a connection or have sex with you, and it's causing

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 1>a problem, that's when it's the problem. But if they're

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>just masturbating and then you still get everything you need

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:31.440
<v Speaker 1>or I think that's fine.

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I reckon that there's people who have an

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:35.399
<v Speaker 2>issue with it because there's like almost like a form

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:37.920
<v Speaker 2>of jealousy. There are people who have an issue with

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:42.399
<v Speaker 2>their partners masturbating because they feel like it then infers

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 2>that they're not good enough or they're not doing a

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 2>good enough job. It's taken as a personal criticism, which

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:49.800
<v Speaker 2>I think if that's how you feel about your partner masturbating,

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 2>then I think we need to reframe how we see it, because,

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 2>like I think it's an important part of a healthy relationship.

0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 2>You don't want to have to always be available for sex,

0:41:57.640 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes you just need to surface yourself.

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes go jack off on your but service.

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Yourself in another room or check that your partner's okay

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:06.759
<v Speaker 2>with you doing it in the bed. Next to them

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 2>like it's not a big it doesn't need to be

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:10.320
<v Speaker 2>a big deal. But I definitely think it's a conversation

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:12.839
<v Speaker 2>that should be had. But I reckon there'd be so

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 2>many people who have experienced this.

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Laura, that's enough masturbation, chap Let's move on to question

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:23.839
<v Speaker 1>number three. This is an interesting one, and I think

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:25.800
<v Speaker 1>it might rub a lot of people up the wrong way.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my absolute pet peeves is not receiving a

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 1>thank you for my generosity. Recently, a lot of my

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:35.720
<v Speaker 1>friends and family are having babies, so I've given them gifts,

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 1>home cooked meals.

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 3>And heartfelt cards.

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:40.799
<v Speaker 1>Some of them I don't even receive a thank you

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.239
<v Speaker 1>from unless I bring it up. I am the type

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 1>of person who sends a text on a bigger occasion

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:48.719
<v Speaker 1>thank you cards, but some friends and family haven't even

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 1>sent me a text to say thank you. I've previously

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.640
<v Speaker 1>traveled into state for a wedding and contributed.

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 3>To the wishing well.

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I thanked her for having me at the wedding, but

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I never received a thank you for the it I

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:02.799
<v Speaker 1>made and the effort I make with our friendship, and

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 1>we haven't spoken since.

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 3>I know times have changed, and thank you cards aren't

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 3>really a thing anymore.

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 1>But I also think it's not hard to send a

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 1>text thanking someone for the generosity.

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 4>Am I being unreasonable? Ooh, I maybe people are not

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 4>gonna agree with me.

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I think if you are going out of your way

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:24.719
<v Speaker 2>to help, if someone who's just had a baby, if

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 2>you were in the throes of very early motherhood and

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 2>you have a newborn, and you were someone going out

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 2>of your way to either bring food or to send

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 2>a present, or to do something that should just be

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 2>out of the generosity of your own heart, without the

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 2>expectation of receiving anything back, and if you want to

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:44.399
<v Speaker 2>help them. And I say this because being a new

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 2>mum and having a newborn is such an all consuming

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:51.479
<v Speaker 2>moment of life that often the things that you would

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 2>normally do, the thank yous, the following up, the like

0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 2>fucking having a shower, getting eight hours of sleep, the

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 2>stuff that you would normally do in life just doesn't

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 2>exist anymore. Your entire world and identity has been flipped

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:05.440
<v Speaker 2>on its head. Now, I'm not saying that that's an

0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:07.840
<v Speaker 2>excuse to be an asshole in your friendship, but I

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:09.840
<v Speaker 2>am saying that I think it's a period in life

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:12.719
<v Speaker 2>where we can give our friends a little bit of

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 2>grace that they are going to be a little bit selfish,

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 2>and it's not because they're being selfish intentionally. It's because

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 2>most new mums with newborns are just trying to survive.

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:24.400
<v Speaker 2>They're just trying to get by, and so doing something

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:27.440
<v Speaker 2>in that period of life should just come with generosity

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 2>without expectation. But I also think in general, like if

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 2>you're going to do things for your friends because you

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:34.759
<v Speaker 2>love them and care about them, I don't really think

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:37.400
<v Speaker 2>that we should be doing things with the expectation of

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 2>getting something back. And I know that that's a fine

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 2>line between feeling taken for granted and doing something out

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 2>of the kindness of your own heart, but I think

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 2>you need to figure out where that line sits for you.

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's a tricky line.

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you should ever be doing something with

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 1>your intention of getting a thank you. And of course

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:56.280
<v Speaker 1>you can feel undervalued if maybe it's a particular person

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 1>that you're constantly doing things for and you never get

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 1>anything back. But your motivation for helping people out, I

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 1>personally think isn't to get a pat on the back,

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 1>and it isn't to get these thank yous. You should

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:12.360
<v Speaker 1>know your friend would be so grateful if you've dropped

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>food over. She might not have time to send you

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 1>a thank you card, but I would be very shocked

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:19.760
<v Speaker 1>if you turn up to her house with a homemade

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:21.840
<v Speaker 1>lasagna and she didn't say thank you so much, or

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 1>she didn't say any sort of thank you. So maybe

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 1>your problem is it's not enough of a level, or

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not meeting what you're like like, it sounds like

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:32.719
<v Speaker 1>you're the person that does send thank you cards.

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Something we can do in all relationships, not just friendships,

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 2>but definitely in romantic relationships as well. And it's so

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:41.000
<v Speaker 2>fucking unhealthy, and I know that sometimes I do it

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to like having little TIFs with Matt

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Is scorekeeping. Scorekeeping is so toxic in your relationships. It's

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:52.799
<v Speaker 2>toxic in friendships, and it's toxic in romantic relationships. But

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 2>it sounds to me like you are keeping score, that

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 2>you were doing things with an expectation of getting something back.

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:00.840
<v Speaker 2>And I think once, if you have logged it in

0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 2>your brain that you are keeping score, you will always

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:09.239
<v Speaker 2>be resentful. You will always be frustrated because the other

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:12.319
<v Speaker 2>person that you're keeping score against doesn't know and they

0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know that you're in this tit for tat situation,

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 2>and I think it actually just breeds, like I said,

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 2>just such a level of resentment within friendships. It's so

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:21.719
<v Speaker 2>unfair and it's so one sided because the other person

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:24.000
<v Speaker 2>doesn't know that that's what's going on. But I think

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, in these instances that you're talking about, like

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 2>early motherhood, in going to weddings, yes it is beautiful

0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:32.319
<v Speaker 2>that you have been generous, but I do think that

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<v Speaker 2>these are both moments in life where you are allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to just give without the expectation of getting something back.

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<v Speaker 2>I think another important part of this is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we all receive love in different ways, and we've spoken

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<v Speaker 2>about it, like the different love languages, and it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>to me like you're somebody who is like a words

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<v Speaker 2>of affirmation, Like you want to be told that you're appreciated.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to be told that you're doing a good job.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that different people show that in different ways,

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<v Speaker 2>Like for me, I don't need to receive a thank

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<v Speaker 2>you card from someone. If anything, I'm like that what

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<v Speaker 2>a waste of paper. It goes straight in the bin.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not someone who keeps hold of cards, so for me,

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of mismatched. I'll send a text, I'll definitely

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<v Speaker 2>say thank you, and I'll appreciate in different ways. But

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's that you have a very specific way in

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<v Speaker 2>which you feel appreciated and your friends aren't meeting those expectations,

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<v Speaker 2>but they might be meeting them in other ways.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the thing you do really need to ask

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<v Speaker 1>yourself here is, and this is what's popping into my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>is you're obviously an amazing friend and an amazing person,

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<v Speaker 1>but no one's making you do this. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they're asking you to do these things. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they've asked you to make them a dinner. You're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it because you really want to do it. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe ask yourself, why are you that offended that you're

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<v Speaker 1>not getting these cards and thank yous back? Because everybody

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<v Speaker 1>in life and in personality is different. Everyone's at a

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<v Speaker 1>different stage. If you have no attachments, right, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>say you don't have a partner, you don't have kids,

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<v Speaker 1>you're living your best life, and you take dinner to

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<v Speaker 1>your friend who's got a newborn baby. They might have

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<v Speaker 1>other kids, at home, they have a crazy life. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't have as much time and brain function to think

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<v Speaker 1>of the same things that you're doing. And sometimes because

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<v Speaker 1>of these life events, friendships grow and change and they

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<v Speaker 1>can become one sided. Not intentionally, but because people's life

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<v Speaker 1>journeys differ. They've got different priorities At the moment, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so sure that they're grateful, but it's not the top

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<v Speaker 1>of their list to go and get a thank you

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<v Speaker 1>can't and send.

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<v Speaker 4>It to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but there does come a point in friendships though,

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<v Speaker 2>like if you feel as though a friendship is one sided,

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<v Speaker 2>it can't be one sided indefinitely. You know, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>just keep showing up to a friendship where your friend

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<v Speaker 2>is not returning serve you know, over and over again,

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<v Speaker 2>because that does give you a sense of feeling like

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<v Speaker 2>you are unloved or unappreciated or all of.

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<v Speaker 4>Those sorts of feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think, like you have to be the one

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of figure out is this repetitive behavior by

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<v Speaker 2>the same person. Is this that I'm showing up to

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<v Speaker 2>the friendship and they're not meeting me here because they

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to or they can't. At this point in life,

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<v Speaker 2>there are periods where people deserve and are allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>be a little bit in would focused. But I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it's like figuring out whether it's repetitive behavior or whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a part of the season of your friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I was gonna say exactly that, Laura. Friendships do

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<v Speaker 1>have seasons as well. Sometimes they run their course, and

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<v Speaker 1>this could be running its course. If you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not being reciprocated, you're not on the same level,

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<v Speaker 1>You're not getting what you need from the friendship. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to maintain it. Sometimes it's time to take

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<v Speaker 1>a step back and maybe you can revisit it in

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<v Speaker 1>six months or a year. But if you're feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you're putting in in, in, in, in, not gettything.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad, take a step back, do less, do less, take

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<v Speaker 2>us stop cooking, stop sending presents, stop sending cards, and

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<v Speaker 2>thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>That's enough from us. Tour round this out. Go and

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<v Speaker 4>get your live show tickets as well.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have been thinking about coming and watching Life

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<v Speaker 2>Uncut live, we are coming to a capital city near

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<v Speaker 2>you and it's going to be freaking amazing. We've got

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Fisher, we have Mitch coming, Keisha's going to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>We are all going to be on stage with some

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely incredible guests.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to be wild and it's going to be hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get your tickets from Life on podcast dot

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<v Speaker 2>com dot au and yeah, it's gonna be so so fun,

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<v Speaker 2>So please don't miss that. It's happening the whole month

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<v Speaker 2>of October. We've got eight locations across the country and

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<v Speaker 2>over the pond in Auckland, even all the way to Perth.

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<v Speaker 3>Perth always says that no one comes to them.

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<v Speaker 4>We're coming. We're coming. We're coming all the way to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So bring your friends, and don't just bring your friends,

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<v Speaker 2>bring your boyfriend, bring your girlfriend. It'll be such an

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<v Speaker 2>eye opening revolution.

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<v Speaker 4>You will learn some stuff. You'll believe a different person,

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<v Speaker 4>a better person. Smellia right anyway, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't forget tell me mom, don't dad, tell you dog.

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<v Speaker 3>Tea friends and share the love because we love love