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Speaker 1: Get A.

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Speaker 2: I'm Laala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, and professional oversharer.

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Speaker 2: This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe

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Speaker 2: it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face

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Speaker 2: our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a different guest

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Speaker 2: about their highs as well as they're lows, all in

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Speaker 2: a bid to.

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Speaker 1: Inspire us to fearlessly fail.

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Speaker 2: I have a beautiful podcast guest for you today. We've

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Speaker 2: just finished recordings, so I'm fresh off the pod inspiration

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Speaker 2: from our chat. She's incredible voice actor, author, kids author,

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Speaker 2: but also was a producer on Any News and then

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Speaker 2: worked in fashion and pr. Just such a go getter.

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Speaker 2: Anishe Dubois? What a legend you are voices all these

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Speaker 2: amazing animations promos for like MTV were for Starbucks. And

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Speaker 2: the cool thing that you'll notice about this so I

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Speaker 2: met Anisha at this awesome voiceover workshop she ran at

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Speaker 2: Soho House a couple of weeks ago, maybe three or

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Speaker 2: four weeks ago, And the thing that struck me about

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Speaker 2: her was she was just so willing and open to

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Speaker 2: give away her information for free.

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Speaker 1: It was a totally free event.

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Speaker 2: And I thought, this person's an absolute legend, but also

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Speaker 2: like so willing to share her process. So this episode

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Speaker 2: is for any creative or anyone that's got an idea

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Speaker 2: or a goal, because you'll get to hear the way

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Speaker 2: that she uses every single day to help bring her

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Speaker 1: So hope you love it.

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Speaker 2: Anisha's so grateful for you jumping on this, Potter Rooney,

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Speaker 2: You're absolutely awesome. I cannot wait to cross paths with

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Speaker 2: you again. I think you're amazing and you've got a

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Speaker 2: huge fan in me and to you the listener. Oh

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Speaker 2: hope you love this. Anisia is an absolute legend. You're

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Speaker 2: in for a real treat. Enjoy Anisia du Boi. Yes,

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Speaker 2: thank you for jumping on the pod. Absolutely, you do

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Speaker 2: so many cool things, mate, Yeah I did so.

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Speaker 1: Voice actor, yes, author, yes.

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Speaker 2: Which I can't wait to talk more about. I've been

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Speaker 2: deep diving. Is that passport for poppy.

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Speaker 3: Passport puppy ah son.

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Speaker 2: But also you've worked in fashion, your producer on E

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Speaker 2: News yep, And didn't you like come to Ala and

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Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, I want to work on a news

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Speaker 2: and like literally less than three months later, you're like, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I did it. I made it happen, and I was

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Speaker 1: So I'm really.

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Speaker 2: Lucky because I got to do a voiceover workshop with

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Speaker 2: you very recently, which is why this pod is happening

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 3: So I'll connecting right now.

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Speaker 2: You opened that workshop with Hey, I don't really like

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Speaker 2: this saying yeah, Jack of all trades, master of none.

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Speaker 1: Can you explain why?

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Speaker 3: Yes? And so the quote, the full quote, jack of

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Speaker 3: all trades, master of none. I don't know the full quote,

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Speaker 3: but the full quote like speaks to how I feel like.

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Speaker 3: You know, you can master many things, but people, in

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Speaker 3: their ignorance and being rude, always just stop it short,

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Speaker 3: jack of all trades, master of none. And I think

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Speaker 3: that is such bullshit, you know, because you can absolutely

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 3: You just have to stay committed to it. You can

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Speaker 3: do whatever. I'm proof And when I was tired of

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Speaker 3: And people again shorten that quote to take a dig

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Speaker 1: Don't do that.

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Speaker 3: You can put that label on yourself, but don't put

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Speaker 2: So there's obviously so many things we could talk about today,

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, they right, absolutely, And you know, like I

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Speaker 3: see your range. When you get in a session, they

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Speaker 3: And absolutely I will do it. That only helps me

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Speaker 3: at Nickelodeon. And I was like, holy goodness.

437
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:27,400
Speaker 1: Stop.

438
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,199
Speaker 3: And I'm very big on the universe and manifestation, and

439
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 3: my thing was I just this is also around the

440
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 3: time where I was sending my vio reel out. I

441
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 3: was working with Roger, but nothing was really, you know, happening,

442
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 3: and at some point you have to do the work

443
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 3: and let it go. The how the how it's going

444
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 3: to happen is never your business. I can want to

445
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 3: get I can want a million dollars. I may say

446
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 3: it's going to come from this, and the universe is like, no,

447
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 3: it's going to come from this. The how is not

448
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 3: my business. I just need to do the work. So

449
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,680
Speaker 3: I was doing the work, taking the classes, but I

450
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 3: had released it and I saw and that was a sign.

451
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 3: And again, the universe always tells you pay attention to

452
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 3: the signs, and that was a sign I had missed

453
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 3: the first two times. She emailed me and I rolled

454
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 3: back like, oh my goodness, I'm trying to get into

455
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 3: voiceover again and animation. And she says, oh, yeah, I

456
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 3: work with this agency. I work with this one particular agent.

457
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 3: She's the one who I get all of my talent from.

458
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,360
Speaker 3: She introduced me to a woman her name was Michayla.

459
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

460
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 3: I went in met with michaela read some things. Michayla

461
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 3: signed me right then and there. Maybe about a few

462
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 3: months later, Mickayla left that small agency and went to

463
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 3: act and I email Mikayla, can I come with you

464
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 3: to Atlas And she was like yeah, and mind you,

465
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 3: Atlas had already been aware from Roger Rows and it

466
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 3: just all came together and all I had to do

467
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 3: was pay attention and do the work.

468
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 2: Isn't it also interesting that you were doing almost like

469
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 2: a random act of kindness as well. Yeah for that,

470
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 2: for that person, I'm like, yeah, I course I'll send

471
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 2: you wild fill stuff and my worries with no expectations.

472
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 3: No expectation, and that is like when I that's and

473
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 3: that's all My whole thing is, I want to give

474
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 3: it all away to make room for more. So when

475
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 3: I reach out to SOHO House, I wasn't trying to

476
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 3: get anything out of it, but to just give information

477
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 3: away because I know what it's like to have questions

478
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 3: how do I do it?

479
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 1: What did you do?

480
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 3: And again, our path to get into voice acting may

481
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 3: not be the same, but at least you're aware of Like, Okay,

482
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 3: I have been sending in my demos to every agency

483
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 3: in this town. Nobody's been writing me back. Let me

484
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: try to find a mentor and that can be your

485
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 3: way in. And I think when you hear people's stories,

486
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 3: either you can relate or you can't, but you can

487
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 3: just take that information and then do with it what

488
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 3: you can. And that's my goal is just to use

489
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 3: my talent, use my gifts, share my information because I

490
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 3: hope for people. You know, there's still things I want

491
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 3: to accomplish, you know, you know exactly, so like why

492
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 3: not give away information and help people? You know it's

493
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 3: going to come back. I'm not expecting it when it'll

494
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 3: come back, but I know it's going to come back.

495
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: Of course I'm already.

496
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 2: My brain's already taking over and be like I can

497
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: have coumplishing in Australia.

498
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like.

499
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 3: That's my thing. It's just like, you know, there's no

500
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 3: ego in anything I do, and I think that's why

501
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 3: things aligned for me.

502
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 2: For everybody listening. The workshop that you offered was free.

503
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 3: It was free that Soho house and like the feet

504
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,719
Speaker 3: you know, there's always a drop off of people who

505
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 3: show up. But the one the workshop I did, the

506
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: VO workshop I did at Soho Warehouse downtown, it had

507
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 3: one hundred out of one hundred sign ups and a

508
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 3: fifty person waitlist and not that many people showed up,

509
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,239
Speaker 3: but like the interest alone is like makes me and

510
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 3: what's Hollywood. There was a fifty out of fifty wait

511
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 3: a fifty out of fifty sign ups and then like

512
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 3: a sixty three person waiting. Yeah, and you know, things happen,

513
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 3: people's waiting.

514
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: Such a good gang.

515
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 2: It's such a good gang, and it was intimate enough

516
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 2: that we feel like exactly, I felt comfortable coming up

517
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 2: to the end and having a chat, you know what

518
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 2: I mean.

519
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: And sometimes in big, big things you're.

520
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: Like, oh, you feel me uncomfortable to do that, So

521
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: it was like that this chat wouldn't even be happening

522
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: right now, are.

523
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 3: Exactly, And I want to I want to mention something

524
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 3: really quick, like I know how you were saying, like,

525
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 3: you know, it's intimate and you could feel, you know,

526
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 3: you could talk. So when you first get into voice

527
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 3: to acting, and they have these workshops, right, so let's

528
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: just say they have an agent coming and you're going

529
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 3: and it's forty people on a zoom or forty people

530
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 3: talking to the agent. There's no way at the end

531
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 3: that agents are probably going to stick around for forty people.

532
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 3: They're trying, they're probably gonna try to make an excuse

533
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 3: to get out early. Yeah. But so what I did

534
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: in the very beginning when I was taking those classes,

535
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 3: for instance, one with the voices voice casting with mary

536
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: Lynn Whistner, she has Sarah Jane Sherman coming to speak

537
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: and she was a casting director at Disney, and I

538
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: saw that it was going to be a ton of

539
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 3: people there. Not a ton, but maybe like thirty forty people.

540
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: So what I did is I googled Sarah Jane Sherman.

541
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 3: She had her own website and she did casting or

542
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 3: she did like coaching on the side. So I booked

543
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 3: the cost that I was going to pay to listen

544
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 3: to her speak with forty people, I could pay and

545
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 3: it could.

546
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: Just be me and her. Oh genius.

547
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: I booked her and pre I am. I can almost

548
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 3: guarantee that my coaching with Mary, I'm sorry. My coaching

549
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 3: with Sarah Jane Sherman was how I got my first

550
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 3: animation audition. I would get an audition, I would get

551
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 3: an animation audition, and I would book a fifteen minute

552
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 3: coaching session with her. She would coach me through it

553
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 3: and then I would submit it. And why not pay

554
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 3: thirty dollars for fifteen minutes? Absolutely it's worth it, you know,

555
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 3: because she knows how it should sound, how I should

556
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: inflect up, make each line sound different, you know, show

557
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 3: range within one character, and I would literally be on

558
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 3: my way as a fashion pr director downtown. I would

559
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 3: pull over on willsher on a side street. I coach

560
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 3: with her for fifteen minutes. Get downtown, record in the car,

561
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,120
Speaker 3: send it and yeah.

562
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: Cars have bizarrely go acoustics, don't they.

563
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I will say it depends where you are

564
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 3: in the car, because I was downtown, so you know,

565
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: downtown is a bit crazy. I would have to wait

566
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 3: for you know, the crazy person to stop screaming right

567
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: there the helicopter to come to. But yeah, so like

568
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 3: just that's a tip to keep in mind. So if

569
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 3: you see, you know, your favorite agent or something like

570
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 3: that doing a class, find their personal websites because sometimes

571
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 3: they have their own business outside of their where they

572
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 3: coach and things like that. You can get a one

573
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 3: on one.

574
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: Okay, Can we talk about the books?

575
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 3: Yes?

576
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: Yes, So are they inspired by your daughter Poppy?

577
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? So the very first book I wrote was again

578
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 3: very big on you know, the universe, manifestation and all

579
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: that amazing stuff. So I have if I have a

580
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 3: journal and it's a self help journalist, it's called all

581
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 3: it always works in your favor. I believe it does.

582
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: Never nothing ever happens for my bad, for bad everything.

583
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 3: So when when Australian Fashion labels wanted to part ways.

584
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: It could have devastated someone or me, but it worked

585
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: in my favor. It gave me if freed up, I

586
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: was no longer spending forty hours in an office. It

587
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: gave me free time, and I developed my own fashion

588
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 3: company from that. I now have time to do my

589
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: own auditions. I have open availability to do auditions and bookings.

590
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 3: The Passport Poppy venture came from that, So it worked

591
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: in my favor them letting me go, and they gave

592
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 3: me a severance, which, like, you know, I didn't have

593
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 3: to worry.

594
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: About it, but i'det that way.

595
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 3: So everything always works in your favor. And if you

596
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 3: believe that that nothing is ever happening to harm you,

597
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 3: then you will glide through this life. Yeah, you know,

598
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: so I have that. And then I had my daughter

599
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen, and I travel. I've always traveled, and

600
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: so I've been traveling with her. She's her first player.

601
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: I was when she was like two months old, and

602
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: one day she was walking down the tarmac I'm sorry,

603
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: like the runway jet bridge, and she I was like,

604
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: I snapped the photo and I was like, oh, look

605
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 3: at Passport Poppy, and I was like oh, passport Poppy.

606
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 3: And again it's it goes back to when you have ideas,

607
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 3: it is your job, it is your duty, your responsibility

608
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 3: in this world to bring it to life, Like how

609
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 3: dare you have such an amazing idea and just let

610
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: it sit like you have? It's your responsibility to yourself

611
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: and the greater good and to God and the universe

612
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 3: to act on it. Because he didn't give the passport

613
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: I passed port poppy idea to Beyonce or Kylie Jenner.

614
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: He gave to me, and how dare I not do

615
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: anything with it? And again it started as just one book,

616
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: and it's now on two books. Yes, the first one

617
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 3: was at home and talks about her bi coastal lifestyle

618
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 3: and traveling. The second one is in Paris. The third

619
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 3: one will be in London. And they keep going.

620
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put let's have an all Z one.

621
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 3: Yes, let's there actually is one, Frost. I don't know

622
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: which which copy it is, which number in the series

623
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 3: it is, but there is an Australian one because I've

624
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: been to Australia and then from there I had the

625
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: idea to do flash cards and my daughter, I have

626
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: a child, so like I'm always again at flash cards

627
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: and there was never one based on travel, so like

628
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 3: the ABC's of Travel. You know, when we were in

629
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 3: Amsterdam last year, we were in a cafe and my

630
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 3: daughter was looking out the window. She was like an

631
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: excavator and she knows what an excavator is from watching

632
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: Blippy Wonders and so like that was my hope when

633
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: I created it, because I have one in there. Why

634
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: is for yoke and yoke is the steering wheel of

635
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: the airplane. It's not called a steering wheel, it's called

636
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: a yoke. So that is my hope when kids get

637
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: these travel flash cards that they mom, you look at

638
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 3: the yoke, you know, you can see them into the

639
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: the cockpit when you're walking off the plane, you know.

640
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 3: And then from there November I had the idea, you know,

641
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: I do voiceover, I do animate so you know, I

642
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: see what's coming on the pipeline with you know, when

643
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: I get auditions, I had to sign NDAs, but I

644
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: see what you know, things are working on it's coming,

645
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: and like where the you know, where the animation field

646
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: is going. And so I was like, okay, we travel,

647
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: that's already there, like and I don't want to make

648
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: my daughter the talent because let's just say she's in

649
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: a mood one day and we can't film because she's upset.

650
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: I said, well, I'll just do a puppet.

651
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

652
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: I found a woman in in I think Eagle Rock, Yeah,

653
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, think she was in Igock. Yeah, And

654
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 3: I found her and she created the puppet for me.

655
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: And I've been traveling around the world with this puppet

656
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: and I have a YouTube series Passport Poppy, and we

657
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 3: just travel. We go airboats to the Florida Everglades, we

658
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico. We're going to Costa Rica in

659
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 3: two weeks, like.

660
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

661
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: And we even do like local things. There's an outpack

662
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: of farm in Santa Barbara. We go well watching in

663
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: Newport Beach. There's far a strawberry picking farm in Moore Park.

664
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: So we just and again it's natural to me because

665
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: before this we were all I was all always taking

666
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: her places, and now I'm just documented it for other children. Yeah,

667
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: to see and do and go inspiring you. Yeah, I

668
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: love it.

669
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: Can I ask how you found the book writing process,

670
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: because that's obviously very a very different medium to veo

671
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: and acting like and it feels like, although it's very

672
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: creative to write a book, I think there's a very

673
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: logical and linear part of the brain that has to

674
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: get involved a little bit as well, just with like yeah,

675
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: more of like formatting structures and the way you were

676
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: even talking about like, oh there's an Australian that like

677
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: you've got the forethought?

678
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: Is that the right word? You know what I mean

679
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: to think?

680
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a series of twelve, thirteen, twenty books,

681
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean?

682
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: So, how did you find the book writing process?

683
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 3: I actually it wasn't It wasn't difficult for me at

684
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 3: all because it was something I wanted to do, so

685
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: everything just found me at Neat. I found the most

686
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: perfect copywriter off Fiver, I found the most perfect illustrator

687
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: of my goodness, the same way from Ukraine on up work,

688
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: and everybody just came to me like it once I

689
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: had And again it was just all I had to

690
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 3: do was my part. I had the idea and I

691
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: just kept moving on it. So I made it at

692
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: least one every day I did something, So whether it

693
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: was me researching you know, copywriters researching you know, or

694
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: maybe me writing it or maybe trying to sketch some

695
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: stuff as inspo for the illustrator. I did something every

696
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: single day and it didn't take long. It maybe took

697
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 3: about three months or so. And once I sat down

698
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: and said, okay, I want to do a series so

699
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: that like I can stay on it, you know what

700
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: I mean? And I know, and kids had something to

701
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 3: look forward to. She left off in Paris, now she'll

702
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: be in London. You know that it's something that they'll

703
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: want to collect. And so I once I looked on

704
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 3: Google and I found like a format for kids books.

705
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 3: I just found the format and I followed that format. Yeah,

706
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: and that was easy, and I just did the And

707
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: what I did in Poppies books, or what I do

708
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 3: in Poppy's books that teachers have told me is very

709
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: great is I ask questions. So I say, my favorite cousin?

710
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,479
Speaker 3: Do you have favorite cousins? And like it's so when

711
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: I go to schools, they're like, my favorite cousin is

712
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: my favorite cousin is you know? Or I have a

713
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 3: pink suitcase? What color is your suitcase? Is mine is?

714
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: I say, where's where my mom is from? New Jersey?

715
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 3: Where's your mom and dad from? And the feedback I

716
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: get from the children. My dad's from Africa, you know,

717
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 3: my mom's from you know, Guatemala. Like that is just everything.

718
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: So I just ask questions.

719
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 3: And when I'm reading in person, I ask the questions

720
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: and they answer them and all their hands are going up.

721
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 3: And the feedback I get from teaching. Again, I've never

722
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: written a book before, you know, I didn't go to

723
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: a book writing class or book writing school. I'm just

724
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: a parent and I have friends who are teachers, and

725
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: that's my testing ground. And it's the feedback I've been getting.

726
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: It's like spectacular because I'm just engaging, you know, if children,

727
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 3: you know, if children's parents can't take them there physically,

728
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: yet let me take them there, you know, and in

729
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: the form of a puppet. So it's not like an

730
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: envious type thing like you know, that girl is going,

731
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 3: but like a puppet is going, you know. So it's

732
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 3: it's it's a bit more easy on like the parents too,

733
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 3: like you know, aspirational. Yeah exactly.

734
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: So, so okay, you're doing a million and one amazing things.

735
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: You've got a bambino, beautiful puppy.

736
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

737
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: I've heard you talk about time management and how that's

738
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: kind of one of your superpowers. Can you share a

739
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 2: bit about because as I was hearing that, I was like, yeah,

740
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: this is me.

741
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: I love that morning. A bit about that.

742
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 3: So for me, I've always been an early riser. Even

743
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: in college, I was taking a seven am gym class.

744
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 3: I'm not taking no evening classes. I don't want to

745
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 3: stay up till you know. I am always.

746
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: On the same Yeah, so early bird catches the worm mate.

747
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just the more I love the morning.

748
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: It's so quiet.

749
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: So I get up at four. I get up at

750
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 3: four every morning and it's just so quiet. I get

751
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: to you know, do my morning routine. I make my tea,

752
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 3: I feed the fish, I feed my daughter's spirited dragon,

753
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: I feed the dog. You know, I may forward some clothes.

754
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 3: I get out my gratitude journal I've been doing. I've

755
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 3: been gratitude journaling every single morning for the past probably

756
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 3: nine years. Every single morning I gratitude journal at least

757
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: five things I'm grateful for that happened the day before.

758
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 3: So I'm starting my morning off with gratitude. And it

759
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 3: could be grateful that, you know, like I got a

760
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: parking spot right in front because I had so many

761
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 3: things to just grateful for. Everything, and I can write

762
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 3: more than five, but I always make it a point

763
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 3: to write at least five. So I do that my

764
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: morning routine. I can't mess it up. Gotta have my tea,

765
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 3: my gratitude journal. Then I'll do like my you know,

766
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 3: voiceover stuff, and then I get into my day whatever

767
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 3: I have to do. But I will say, like one

768
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: of my qualities, one of my better qualities is time management.

769
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: I just it and I'm never struggling to get something done,

770
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 3: like something may have to be pushed till the next

771
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: day or later, but I'm very I have time for

772
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 3: I do a million things and nothing ever falls to

773
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 3: the wayside, like I never like, you know, I'd never

774
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 3: give and I'd never not give anything my all. I

775
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 3: always have time for everything. And I think, I'm I

776
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: don't know why I'm good at it, but I'm grateful

777
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: I'm good at it.

778
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: Mate, It's such a super But I.

779
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: Think getting up so early when you're you know, you

780
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: don't have a bunch of people calling you, you know

781
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 3: everybody's still sleep, Yeah, exactly, Like you can get so

782
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 3: much done in this way by the time everybody's waking

783
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 3: up at nine ten o'clock.

784
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 1: You don't hate of the game.

785
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have free time to then, you know,

786
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: talk on the phone with you for an hour or

787
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 3: whatever the case.

788
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: So what about I guess, what about what time does

789
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: Poppy get up? Because this is all what you do

790
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: right before Poppy gets up?

791
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, So I remember I was getting up at six,

792
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: and then I was like, you know, I need to

793
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: get up earlier. So I started get getting up at

794
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 3: five and then Poppy. So I has to get up

795
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 3: at five because she'll still she's she sleeps in her

796
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 3: own bed, but in the middle of the night she'll

797
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: come in my bed and I'm too tired to get up, yeah,

798
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: and take her back. So when she does, she's like, well,

799
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 3: she doesn't feel that body heat with me. She can

800
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: feel it with her dad, right, he's right there, but

801
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: she doesn't feel me next to her. She'll come out.

802
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: So I was waking up at five, and she was

803
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 3: waking up at five fifteen, five thirty. I'm like, this

804
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: isn't gonna work. And then I forgot what happened. I

805
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 3: don't know, nothing really happened. But one morning I woke

806
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: up at like three something. I was like, ooh, I

807
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: like this, and it was my mistake that I woke

808
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: up at three something. I don't know why, and I said, okay,

809
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 3: let me try four. And so now I at least

810
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: get two or so hours she's sleeping later. Now I

811
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: may get like two and a half three hours uninterrupted,

812
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 3: which voice absolutely. And so this way, by the time

813
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: she wakes up, I can stop whatever I'm doing and

814
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 3: I can do breakfast, I can get her dressed, we

815
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 3: can go do this, you want to play, we can

816
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 3: have school. So getting up early really helps me. And

817
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: then I don't really have much of a night life

818
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 3: because I'm in bed by like six, seven o'clock.

819
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: My next question, I.

820
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: Go to bed around probably at the very latest. I'll

821
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 3: go to bed at eight o'clock, got it. Yeah, And

822
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 3: I just I love it, you know, like unless I'm

823
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: going to dinner or something like that or whatever that

824
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 3: I'm up late. But for the most part, I love

825
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: being in bed.

826
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're not. I love putting a candle on,

827
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: reading a book.

828
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: And there's nothing for me to do in my life

829
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 3: now that I have to be up past eight. When

830
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: I was a fashion pr director, I had to be

831
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 3: at events and all this stuff, so I had to

832
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: be up, you know late. But where I'm at now,

833
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: you know, voiceover stops at a certain time, and you

834
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 3: know a passport apartment stops at a certain tye, I'm

835
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 3: not in the club. I'm so it's okay for me.

836
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 3: I'm not missing anything. Going to bed by eight o'clock.

837
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, oh I love it. Okay, I could talk

838
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: to you all day long.

839
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 2: By the way, for someone listening right now, that's like, oh,

840
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 2: I think, you know, I think voice or even writing

841
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 2: a book is something and I want to try. What

842
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: would your advice be, like, just work on it every

843
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 2: single day.

844
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: Just do it, Just get the idea. Just be clear,

845
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: just the way this way, you're not all over the place.

846
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 3: Be clear about what is your expertise? What can you

847
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: write about? What can you talk about without you know,

848
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: going to school for you know, for years for it.

849
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 3: Like because there are things that people are just innately

850
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: great at they don't have to go to school for it.

851
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: They mean, he's a little training, you know, But like

852
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: whatever you're good at, whatever your your thing is, just

853
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: do that. And I'm not out here trying to, you know,

854
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 3: do things. I'm not great. I'm just doing what I know.

855
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: I'm good at and what I have a passion for.

856
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: So choose that passion and go forth with that. Whether

857
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 3: you want to write a book on something, whether you

858
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: want to you know, get into voice acting. Just choose

859
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 3: it and then don't stop. And I think that's where

860
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people go wrong because they

861
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: have these amazing ideas and then they're not committed. So

862
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 3: they start and they stop, and it's like you're not

863
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: only harming yourself, but you're like messing it up for

864
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 3: the world because we need your gifts and you're playing.

865
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's I think it's hard.

866
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: It is that rejection pace or like you know how

867
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: you said when you first got here and your emailed

868
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: all the agents, and it is unless you know, I'll

869
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 2: hang on no, no, you need a referral. Yeah, unless

870
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: you know, oh this is actually part of the journey,

871
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: this is possible.

872
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: Happens, yes, you know what I mean.

873
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 3: And the rejection part, like listen, I still get like

874
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 3: you know, in the news spaces, I'm trying to get

875
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: into you and like this kid's content world, you know,

876
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 3: like I may reach out and get a no, and

877
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: it's just like and I may know that my stuff

878
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 3: is better than the stuff that's out there, and the

879
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: rejection part will drive you crazy. So for instance, when

880
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: I had the passport poppy idea, I was reaching out

881
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 3: to publishers, publishers and you know, they didn't they didn't

882
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: want it, and my thing was, I don't need them.

883
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: There's YouTube, there's Fiver, there's Upwork, there's Ali Baba where

884
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 3: I found my manufacturer who manufactured my books. Manufacturers basically

885
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 3: every book and Target. They work with Scholastic and all

886
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 3: of them. So I just work with them. I may

887
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: I may be not ordering twenty thousand books, maybe I'm

888
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: ordering twenty five hundred books, and they still work with me.

889
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: I don't need them, And then you know you don't

890
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 3: need them. You can do it on your own. And

891
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: then what's gonna have and is you're going to make

892
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 3: so much noise that then they're gonna come running, and

893
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: then you make them pay a premium. You know, because basically,

894
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 3: when you just have an idea, they don't know you know,

895
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 3: how it to how, they don't know the potential. You

896
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 3: see it, but they may not see it, so they

897
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 3: feel like they're taking a risk on you. So they'll say, well,

898
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: we want fifty percent of it. Yeah, and it's like yeah, yeah,

899
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 3: you'll be signed with Scholastic or whatever, but they're going

900
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 3: to take more than half, yeah, so that they can have,

901
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 3: you know, ownership of it and say who, what, when

902
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: or why. But if you do it yourself, you get

903
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 3: out there, it's yours and when they come running, make

904
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 3: them pay and then give them a small percentage. You know,

905
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: you can do it that way. So that's what I've

906
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: been doing now. I believe in everything I'm doing so

907
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 3: wholeheartedly that I'm no longer asking you for permission because

908
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: I can do it myself. And when you come running,

909
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: when you double back, I'm going to make you pay

910
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: for it.

911
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: I coach a lot of authors because I've written eleven books,

912
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: and one of the things I'll say is if you

913
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: self publish, if you can find a great distributor, that's it.

914
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: That's the game. Training.

915
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there I found a one distributor. I ended

916
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 3: up like pulling my books back from them, but I

917
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: did find one. And that's the thing. You can publish it,

918
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 3: publish it yourself, and then just find someone to distribute it,

919
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 3: to distribute.

920
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: It for you.

921
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 3: Two Barnes and Nobles I reached out to Barnes and

922
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: Nobles and I did a reading at Barnes and Nobles,

923
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 3: and the buyer said that you have to have one

924
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 3: of these distributors have your books for us to buy it.

925
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 3: And then you still get the rejection. It's like, just

926
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 3: just forget it. I'll read it Barnes and Nobles totally.

927
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 3: I don't you know. And I will say with Passport Poppy,

928
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: there was this I play Xavia in this whale of

929
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 3: a Tail podcast on Go Kid Go, and I remember, well,

930
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 3: I reached out, so I got that booking. I did

931
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: that season one, season two, and then they sent an

932
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 3: email like I think like maybe last year some time,

933
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: and I said, hey, we're looking for new shows blah

934
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 3: blah blah. So I had three ideas I sent to them.

935
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 3: They loved them all, but the one they loved the

936
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: most was Passport Poppy. And I would have had to

937
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 3: give up half of the company, so fifty percent for

938
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 3: all of Eternity, and it was all I All I

939
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 3: had at the time was just the one book and

940
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,479
Speaker 3: the idea for the podcast, and I was just like yeah,

941
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 3: and I couldn't give it up. And mind you, I

942
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 3: didn't have all I had was the one book, but

943
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: only because it's it's based on my daughter's life and

944
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: I just can't let I can't let it go. I

945
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 3: can't let a percent go right now. And what's crazy

946
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: is they came back to me and said, well, we

947
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 3: love your ideas and all that stuff. We have this show.

948
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: This guy named Pat Carmon, and Pat Carmon is a

949
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 3: best selling children's author. He was a part of Go

950
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: Kid Go, and he said, hey, Anisha, I believe in you.

951
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: I had this show idea called The Holidays. These were

952
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: the characters. Take it, switch it up, change the character names,

953
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: make it your own, and then we're going to put

954
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 3: it on Go Kid Go. So now I have this

955
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 3: whole show called The Holidays that I wrote, I voiced

956
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 3: three characters in, I produce, and it's now in season

957
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 3: two on Go Keep Go. So it's like, you know,

958
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 3: look at how it came full circle. I just believed

959
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 3: in when I had so much. I want to hold

960
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 3: onto this. But he came back and said, I still

961
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: believe in you. Take this, make it your own, and

962
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 3: now we have it on this platform.

963
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: Like, look at how it works.

964
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: You're an unstoppable force mate. Final question, yes, because you

965
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: play kids' voices a lot. Are there any tricks like

966
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: do you squeak in your breath?

967
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: Do you quick? Do you lift your register?

968
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 2: I know you said, like sometimes you'll intonate going up,

969
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: or like how this is just a fun little tea

970
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: for me.

971
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: When I get When you get animation auditions, they give

972
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: you specs, so the specifications, and they give you like

973
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 3: a general of how they want it to sound. So

974
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 3: sometimes they'll say, we want the female to sound between

975
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 3: eight and ten. You want her to sound like early tweens. Teens,

976
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: you want her to sound like a four year old,

977
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: So you have to take that. So I take that

978
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 3: as the base and then I make it my own

979
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: so I sound how they want it to sound. And

980
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 3: then you know, I may if one line is like

981
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: come on, let's go play, I may do one read

982
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: like come on, let's go play, come on, let's go play,

983
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: come on, let's go play. So you just like switch

984
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 3: it up and give them range so that they can

985
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: see like, oh, she can do it three different ways

986
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 3: and make it sound you know, urgent, calm. So a

987
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: lot of times in your auditions they may ask for

988
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 3: just one take, right because they may be getting reads

989
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: from everybody. They don't have time. But if they say

990
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 3: give one to two takes, do two takes to make

991
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: them sound totally different.

992
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great tip.

993
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then when you're also two, when you get

994
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 3: when you get an audition, like read you the whole thing.

995
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 3: What is the line before, Like the character before you,

996
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 3: what are they saying to lead you in? And then

997
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 3: the person after you, what are they saying so that

998
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 3: you know, like you know, you don't want to be

999
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 3: all excited if it's like a sad scene. You know,

1000
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: it's like pay attention to like the entire script. So

1001
00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: like when I get an audition, I read the entire

1002
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 3: script one time for the first time. Then I do

1003
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 3: the audition. I don't read it a bunch of times

1004
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 3: because then you get stuck in your head.

1005
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: And there's those habits you build too in a way

1006
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: in which you'll internate the exact same way.

1007
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 3: That's the same way. So I just read it one time,

1008
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: I do it three different ways, and I let it

1009
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 3: go into the world.

1010
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: Oh you're amazing.

1011
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: I have been so inspired by you today, So thank

1012
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 2: you so much. In the show notes, I'm going to

1013
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: put all of your details so that people can get

1014
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: a hold of your incredible books and also see more

1015
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: of you and hear more of you. I can't wait

1016
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 2: to keep watching your journey. You've got a total fan

1017
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 2: in me. Thank you, Thank you so much, my friend,

1018
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: of course.

1019
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1020
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

1021
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

1022
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: on Instagram.

1023
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: I'm at Yamo Lullerberry.

1024
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1025
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1026
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,320
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1027
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