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Speaker 2: How would you describe the music you make and how

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Speaker 1: the last show that we did. We went so there's

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Speaker 1: like what we would call rises, so that's where they

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Speaker 1: put the instruments or you kind of step onto it.

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Speaker 1: We stepped on a rise on myself and one day

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Speaker 1: who's sample sister who was also a musician, and we

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Speaker 1: were doing back in Focus together, we stepped on the

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Speaker 1: riser and the rise of slid what oh okay, nobody

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Speaker 1: came to apologize. Nobody said it was was mad and

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Speaker 1: we looked around like, yo, who was responding, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: he has it? What has it crazy? Yeah? So you

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Speaker 1: deal with like a lot of things, like little things

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Speaker 1: and like yeah, yeah, while life.

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Speaker 2: Is a whole other for sure, and yeah, what would

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Speaker 2: you I know we're going to come to a closing,

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Speaker 2: but I would love for you to share your advice

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Speaker 2: for artists who come maybe from a similar background as

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Speaker 2: we do, artists where maybe art is not prioritized as much,

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Speaker 2: and where for me, for example, I really think we

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Speaker 2: are a creative people, but we have been denied our

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Speaker 2: creative outlets a lot of the time. So what would

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Speaker 2: your advice be, or what do you hope for our people?

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Speaker 2: And you know, maybe our future generations, so maybe they

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Speaker 2: don't land where we landed unfortunately or fortunately.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for the young people coming up, my

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Speaker 1: advice would be so cliche, but just keep going and

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Speaker 1: find ways that you can still maintain that. So for

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Speaker 1: some people it might the blockage might be like I'm

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Speaker 1: in my parents' home, so I can't really do things

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Speaker 1: in a particular way that I imagined write. More like you

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Speaker 1: have the agency for yourself to be like, at least

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Speaker 1: in this season in my life, I'm going to sharpen

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Speaker 1: my right school. Yeah, in this season in my life,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to learn how to sing better, have to

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Speaker 1: have more agility in my voice, how to do all

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Speaker 1: these things. I'll probably learned keys, I'll learn how to

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Speaker 1: do the logic stuff. I'll learn, like just do something

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Speaker 1: like don't like when you're faced with an obstacle, then

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Speaker 1: give up completely because there's always a way and you

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Speaker 1: can always find a way, and just trust God.

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Speaker 2: Why do you make music? And I know you added

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Speaker 2: to it, but why do you make music? Because I'm

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Speaker 2: hearing you and like you this is probably just like

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Speaker 2: the tip of the iceberg of the things you have

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Speaker 2: to have had to navigate and all that, But why

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Speaker 2: do you make music and keep going? Aside from it

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Speaker 2: being a god given talent?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who you're I make music because it gives me

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Speaker 1: a sense of freedom that's both tangible and INTANGI yeah,

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Speaker 1: like on the stage, I feel like and it's weird because,

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Speaker 1: like you know, on a stage you can have a persona,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think that's a persona for me necessarily.

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Speaker 1: It's more of like a more what's the word that

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for? An extension, extension and a revelation of

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Speaker 1: the full extent of because I feel like when you

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Speaker 1: deal with people and people don't actually know this about

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Speaker 1: me that I am quite shy, which is quite strength

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Speaker 1: in person, Like if I don't know you well enough.

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Speaker 1: I'm quite straight back. I can have a conversation. I've

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Speaker 1: learnt how to do that over time. But yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: just like you're there, you leave your all. It's fun

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Speaker 1: as well, and it's actually enjoyable to be able to

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Speaker 1: do that. Music has also been therapy for me in

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Speaker 1: some of the hardest moments of my life that I've

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Speaker 1: been able to write about as well. So it's like journaling,

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Speaker 1: but it's with maybe write music instead of journaling. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, So in high school when I was getting fullied,

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Speaker 1: like you know, all of that kind of stuff, I

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Speaker 1: would just write. And it's interesting, most of the music

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Speaker 1: that I've written, I will write it like subconsciously, and

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Speaker 1: then later on I will sit with the music and

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Speaker 1: reflect and be like, oh, I was actually honestly experiencing

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Speaker 1: this at a time in my life.

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Speaker 2: To all her bullies, how at her now?

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Speaker 1: Look at her now? God?

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Speaker 3: Bless yes, God bless you know, I mean twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: five at the top of it. Are there any upcoming

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Speaker 3: projects you want to see, things you want to share

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Speaker 3: let the people know, do you think?

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Speaker 1: Yes? So so many things I won't reveal too much.

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Speaker 1: But what I can say is that new music is

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Speaker 1: coming out. Yeah it's wrong your coon. Yeah, We're coming

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Speaker 1: with Ginger and it'll be music that's expected from me,

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Speaker 1: but different from what I've done before. And once again,

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Speaker 1: like I just I love music, so I can This

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Speaker 1: is not just to brag, but I feel like I

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Speaker 1: can make any music as long as I like it.

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Speaker 1: Like if you told me to write a country song

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Speaker 1: right now, I could be like, okay, I'll write it,

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Speaker 1: but I'll write what I like. Yeah, if you ask

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Speaker 1: me to make an I'm a piano track, I can

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Speaker 1: make it. It'll be the way you like, get a vibe.

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Speaker 1: But it's going to be music from I guess music

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Speaker 1: from Southern Africa. It's like a blend mixture of things.

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Speaker 1: I'm just titling music for the people. It doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a title. We has a title, but I can't reveal

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Speaker 1: it yet. Yeah, but yeah, it's music for the people.

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Speaker 1: Exciting and can find you socials and all that. You

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Speaker 1: can find me on socials. You can find me on

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Speaker 1: Instagram at miss Niasha so that's m s n I

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Speaker 1: A s Ha. You can find me on Facebook TikTok

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Speaker 1: my TikTok. Hey that's a long story. I didn't come

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Speaker 1: back with a new one. Can that blocks me from

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Speaker 1: since like January twenty twenty four, I took a break

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Speaker 1: from TikTok, tried to log I have to make a

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Speaker 1: new one and then on Spotify all the music platforms.

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Speaker 1: Is just and I a s h A in all

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Speaker 1: capitals because we come with yeah, dynam.

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Speaker 2: And small hotage that let's just say thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for your time, like this has been so insightful,

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Speaker 2: and Amanda and I are artists at heart, and so

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Speaker 2: we love to celebrate other artists and give them the

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Speaker 2: time to shine.

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Speaker 3: And we also realize our country can sometimes belated for

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Speaker 3: they and we really, we really want our platform to

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Speaker 3: keep celebrating creatives because you also know the blood, sweat

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Speaker 3: and tears.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot, and especially when you feel like you know,

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Speaker 1: people aren't suppose supportive or you don't have the finance, yes, backing, backing,

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Speaker 1: the resources, the oh your apply for grats, you don't

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Speaker 1: get the grads, Like you can be really discouraging, but

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Speaker 1: there's always a way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's always that the church that amen, yeah take risks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 2: So much for listening everyone. This has been another episode

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Speaker 2: of a live podcast, Amanda's Great as

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Speaker 3: Always Yes see you on the next episode by Guys