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Speaker 1: Powered Buddy, I have Radio Happened from ninety six AIRVM.

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Speaker 2: So whereever you're listening today, this is Clezy and Lisa's podcast.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 4: On our podcast, we've got some more of the bits

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Speaker 4: you may have missed out on John Jarrett's movie What

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Speaker 4: About Sal thirty seconds in I was just a mess

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Speaker 4: of goosebumps. John Jarrett joins us, Now, good morning, this

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Speaker 4: movie looks wonderful.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: What About Sal is about a man with Down syndrome

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Speaker 4: who is about to lose his mother to cancer, so

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Speaker 4: he goes on a journey to find his strange rock

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Speaker 4: muso father.

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Speaker 3: Enter mister John Jarrett.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and he finds me and I'm.

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Speaker 6: On drunk having.

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Speaker 7: A lot of disappointment and nay, tell us about what.

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Speaker 5: I'm dying a lung cancer from smoking. And he finds

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Speaker 5: the old man and he's a drunk. Yeah, tell us.

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Speaker 3: About about Jared O'Dwyer who plays Sal.

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Speaker 5: Jared O'Dwyer is one of the best actors I've ever

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Speaker 5: worked with, and not down syndrome make the best one

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Speaker 5: of the best actors I've ever worked with.

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Speaker 7: Yes, very extraordinary.

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Speaker 5: He won Best Actor in two thousand and nine at

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Speaker 5: trop Fest you know. So he's been around and he's

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Speaker 5: exceptional in If he doesn't get the best actorate nod,

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Speaker 5: I'll be very disappointed.

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Speaker 3: He holds John Jared Angry.

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Speaker 6: Don't make anger.

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Speaker 5: It's an extraordinary performance, and he holds the film. We

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Speaker 5: don't think of down syndrome actors held a film before.

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Speaker 5: What I mean by that is usually there's a partnership

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Speaker 5: going on. Yes, but he's on his own and he's

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Speaker 5: on a mission, and he ends up in this in

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Speaker 5: Sydney City, living with a derelict and trying to find

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Speaker 5: his dad. It's an extraordinary journey and it's being a

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Speaker 5: box of tissues and kind of uplifting, happy ending. But anyway,

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Speaker 5: it's one of those wonderful domestic dramas, classic classic ouzzie

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Speaker 5: indie film that we're very very good at.

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Speaker 8: I say so myself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you says he's one of your absolute

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Speaker 4: favorite actors full stop, not you know, specifying down syndrome actors,

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Speaker 4: but the number of incredibly talented actors that come from

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Speaker 4: the down syndrome community is amazing.

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Speaker 5: Well that's because they're emotionally more intelligent than.

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Speaker 7: Will ever be I suppose.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, well ninety.

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Speaker 5: Eight percent happiness. I've got, you know, every reason to

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Speaker 5: be filmed. Sad occasionally, but they really they really enjoy life.

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Speaker 5: They embrace life, and they're very happy people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, John, you play his rock musician father Tommy, who

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Speaker 1: doesn't mind a drink.

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Speaker 7: Did any particular rocks star did you have to sort

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Speaker 7: rockstar that you modeled yourself on?

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Speaker 5: No, I just yeah, I was inspired by John Jarrett's past.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a drunk anymore, but I had an a

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Speaker 5: fair share in the seventies, you know, different times. And

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Speaker 5: if I didn't get into Nider, yes, trying to become

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Speaker 5: a singer in a band. So I think, all right,

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Speaker 5: I've seen pretty well.

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Speaker 4: Right, So well, I can tell you got into Nider

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Speaker 4: from the way you've pronounced it. We have to we

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Speaker 4: can't talk to you without saying the words Wolf Creek

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Speaker 4: and I don't do. And I imagine that that is

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Speaker 4: something that has become part of your life that people

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Speaker 4: have got to either you know, they quote a bit

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Speaker 3: Are you okay with that? Does it? I mean?

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Speaker 5: and we're going to do We're going to make Wolf

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Speaker 5: lot COVID kill us then, but we're going to try

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Speaker 5: and do three, four and five when we're chasing a package.

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Speaker 6: Hopefully we'll get it together.

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Speaker 7: Because there's still a lot of backpackers out there.

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Speaker 3: I heard it. Yeah, there's still a lot of people

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Speaker 6: It keeps me fit.

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Speaker 5: It's got to stay fit and healthy to bude me.

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Speaker 4: Separates the men from the boys as to who comes

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Speaker 5: Go on travel, Separate the men and the boys and

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Speaker 4: Well, John, what about sal looks absolutely beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. It's always a real pleasure to chat to you.

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Speaker 2: More more, Lisa, More podcasts soon.

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Speaker 4: But we want to talk about things that cost you money.

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Speaker 4: You know, some things just seem to never end the

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Speaker 4: money like dogs can do it. Yes, Busy, he's a

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Speaker 4: bit of a seasonal, you know, money drainer because she

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Speaker 4: gets those you know, sort of allergy things where she's

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Speaker 4: literally loick on her foot and then she starts pulling.

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Speaker 3: Her hair out and that I threaten her with the collar.

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Speaker 7: Put the collar.

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Speaker 3: And every time you go to the vet.

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Speaker 4: Anyone who's ever had an animal know how much that costs.

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Speaker 3: So it might be a pet in this case.

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Speaker 4: What brought this up today was Susie, our producer, telling

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Speaker 3: Plumbing and I do mean ousehold plumber now where she lives.

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Speaker 4: They've had a bit of an ongoing problem with a

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Speaker 4: blockage in the pipes.

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Speaker 3: No one ever wants to hear the words.

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Speaker 4: Blockage and pipe and plumbing together because you know it's

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Speaker 4: going to be expensive. And they've had to get someone

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Speaker 4: out three times in two three years, four hundred and

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Speaker 4: forty dollars as a pop. Get it right, Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: Also, you have to go to the shops to go

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Speaker 1: for pooh. That's not good. It's really not good. Have

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Speaker 1: you scared about your pipes being blocked?

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Speaker 3: Bas in secret harbor? What is the money drain?

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Speaker 2: I've got a banjo, right, not a musical instrument, a

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Speaker 6: Banjo okay, right. So he's a rescue dog.

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Speaker 5: Yes, he was a part with the other part. We're

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Speaker 2: And he's when we got him. We got him as

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Speaker 8: So we got him home and he hit.

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Speaker 6: Escape from five houses.

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Speaker 2: That's why he was sort of at the pound. That

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Speaker 2: He chewed all the wiring out of the gay. He

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Speaker 6: Wiring of the RETI.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he wasn't happy, just ripped the heads of

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Speaker 2: He wanted to lug in.

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Speaker 6: He wanted the light.

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Speaker 8: You hit this guy.

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Speaker 6: You've got to give him points for intelligence as well.

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Speaker 6: He's smart as a whip. The problem is for all

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Speaker 7: Run he could use it for good far out. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Him now for four years.

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Speaker 4: Has changed Really, He's still costing your money.

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Speaker 6: No, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: We put him on anxiety medication, didn't work. We're took

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Speaker 6: Just replace it.

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Speaker 2: And he looks looks at me, big.

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Speaker 7: Big tongue hanging out.

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Speaker 8: He says, look what I did today?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got some buried treasure or something for your beans.

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Speaker 4: Banjo wants to be a landscaper. Yeah, thanks bad.

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Speaker 3: My wall again.

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Speaker 1: But all the wiring as well.

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Speaker 3: Pease are in Bentley? What keeps costing you money?

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Speaker 8: Morning guys by gar.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we wouldn't.

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Speaker 8: We wouldn't have it any other way. We don't have

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Speaker 8: and we've done it. So we don't have little dollops

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Speaker 4: Now, devil, you give him this, You know this sort

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Speaker 3: You're given the freedom. Give him an inch, he takes

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Speaker 8: And what happens is, yeah. The other thing is too,

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Speaker 8: And when he does that, I say to him, listen,

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Speaker 7: A good Where's his name is? Hungry Charlie, Charlie.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Charlie's a good Charlie boy.

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Speaker 8: And yeah, and he runs along the window still bobbing

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Speaker 6: You the finger. He pretty coffee.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like you're giving a bit of freedom.

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Speaker 1: He takes off his ankle bracelets a little thank.

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Speaker 8: You to talk account. Yeah, and we're down at all

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Speaker 8: the blonde shops for placing.

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Speaker 1: It's a new light fitting more crazy More Lisa Poor

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Speaker 1: podcasts soon Guest Today is an inaugural legend of Western

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Speaker 1: Australian Football Hall of Fame and inducted into the Coaches

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Speaker 1: section of the Australian Football Hall of Fame in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and three. He was a Sandover Medalist here in

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Speaker 1: Western Australia, playing for South from Mantle as a teenager

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Speaker 1: and coach Swan Districts to their third straight Waffle Premiership.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty four. The Great John Todd joins us Tony,

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Speaker 1: good morning.

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Speaker 4: Good morning morning, how lovely to talk to you, nineteen

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Speaker 4: eighty four. The Big three Peter was September twenty two,

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Speaker 4: nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 3: What do you remember from that day?

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Speaker 6: John? We're warning the clock back.

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Speaker 2: We are.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, we'll never forget forty years.

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Speaker 6: Could Yeah. I could tell a lot of lives and

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Speaker 6: you wouldn't know any different.

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Speaker 7: We wouldn't make it up, That's.

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Speaker 6: What I'm saying. I could make stories up and as

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Speaker 6: Yeah, were there, They're pretty easy.

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Speaker 3: Was that a real issue for the waftball coaches at

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Speaker 6: we end up winning three or four goals, which is enough,

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Speaker 7: Run into that.

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Speaker 7: A big day. John.

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Speaker 1: I think about that era of Swan District's footing and

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Speaker 6: We won five games out of there first fifty, so wow,

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Speaker 6: it wasn't a good record early. And Johnny Cooper was

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Speaker 4: Forty one thousand people attended that nineteen eighty four Grand

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Speaker 6: It was in fifty in eighty two it was over

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