1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken, the podcast It's not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: That is so fatch. Thank you, welcome back to Outspoken. 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: Now. 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Today's a very special day because it is Christmas Eve, 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: and there has been a lot going on for the 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: last couple of days. How are you guys feeling. I 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: feel like it's been a very different lead up this year. 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: I don't mean to put a dampner on it, but 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: I feel like we've all been trying to stay away 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: from crowds and stay away from the usual activities that 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: we do do in the lead up to Christmas. But 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: I have been trying to make an effort to watch 17 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: a lot of Christmas movies, try and do some festive baking, 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: and just try and do things around the house that 19 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: feel a little bit Christmasy and kind of take your 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: mind off of the current situation. Well, I'm so excited 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: because Chris Eve is actually my favorite day. Of the year, 22 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: and I'm getting pumped to watch Christmas carols because, as 23 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: we've said before, it's kind of a sport in our 24 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: family to sit down make comments on carols by candlelight, 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: yeah and critique it. And last year our dad was 26 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: missing because he was on well on Christmas even Christmas Day, 27 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: which was very unusual. So I'm very much looking forward 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: to his commentary. In particular, I do think that Christmas 29 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: Eve has a more magical field than Christmas Day itself. 30 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of hope and optimism 31 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve. Also, as much as we take the 32 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: piss out of the carols, there are some moments towards 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: the end where I do feel a bit emotional, particularly 34 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: when Anthony Khala is on. I know what you mean, 35 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: because remember when we were little and Mum would sit 36 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: and watch carrows by candlelight, and she'd almost be sobbing 37 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: listening to some of it, and I'm like, what on earth? 38 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: And now as we get older, I kind of understand it, 39 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: because it's this build up of all the emotions, all 40 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: this stress of getting everything organized for Christmas, and then 41 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: it's like you finally sit down. I think this year. 42 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: It will also be particularly emotional listening to the carols 43 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: because everyone has just gone through so much over the 44 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: past two years. And I just want to say that 45 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 1: I really feel for anyone who is spending Christmas in isolation, 46 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: and hopefully because I discussed it with Brandon and we said, 47 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: if any of us have to isolate over Christmas, we're 48 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: going to have a secondary Christmas. So I hope that 49 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: anyone who's isolating can think and put positive energy into 50 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: their second Christmas they'll have, because hopefully they'll get to 51 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: spend it with friends and family and it'll be just 52 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: as good. Well, we've had a listener send us in 53 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: a bit of a juicy Christmas dilemma. So the anonymous 54 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: lista wrote, Hi, girls, I have a large family and 55 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: every year my sisters and I take it in turns 56 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: to host. Each year, we all chip in fifty dollars 57 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: and if the host goes over, they fit the bill. However, 58 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: this year, my sister, who was hosting, has suggested we 59 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: start charging families per head to attend. Wow, what do 60 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: you guys think about this? 61 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: Well? 62 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: I think that's a bit of a Christmas Scrooge moment 63 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: going on, because I feel like when you're talking about 64 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 1: paying per head, that's usually terminology you use around weddings, 65 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: and the per person that generally pays the wedding bill 66 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: the couple or the family of the couple. So I 67 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: just feel like throwing around that they want to charge 68 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: people per head, it's like they're penalizing people who have 69 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: more family members, and I just think it's not really 70 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: in the theme of the day. I think also because 71 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: this listener has pointed out that the sisters take it 72 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: in turn each year to host, it seems like it 73 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: is a pretty fair situation, so proespecially if they're chipping 74 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: in as well. Like, I think there's people generally, there's 75 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: two sorts of people. There are people that love hosting 76 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: and they like to go above and beyond, and I 77 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: think if you're that person, you're pretty happy to put 78 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: in extra money for a very extravagant Christmas dinner. However, 79 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 1: there are the other people that don't really care, sort 80 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: of do the bear basic. Again, that's their prerogative, So 81 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: I think that everyone chipping in a little bit of money, 82 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: it's up to the host whether they want to go 83 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: above and beyond or just keep it simple. Whatever's in 84 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: their means. I want to know how much per head though, Like, 85 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: how do you work that out? What do you guys 86 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: think would be a fair thing to charge per head? 87 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: I think it depends on what they're serving, because there's 88 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: some people that, as I said, go all out, and 89 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: then there's some that probably aren't putting on that much. 90 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: That's the thing. It is so subjective as well, because 91 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: obviously some people do eat more than other people. Do 92 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: men eat more than women traditionally? I think the other 93 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: thing we do have to remember, though, is that not 94 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: everyone is in the same privileged position. So I could understand, 95 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: for example, if this person hosting perhaps doesn't have as 96 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: much money, and they might think that this is a 97 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: simple solution to make sure that everyone gets what they want. 98 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: Where does it end? Like, are we you know, charging 99 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: for drinks at Christmas Day or drinks extra? You know, 100 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: if you have second helpings? Are you paying more per head? 101 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: I've just never ever heard anybody charging per head. Well, generally, 102 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: if you were to do a wedding fee a per 103 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: head wedding fee, drinks are included in that. So perhaps 104 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: this person is charging drinks. Who knows? Because there are 105 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: some people who go to weddings, and because they're paying 106 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: a lot of money for the gift, they go, Okay, 107 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to get back what I've put in for 108 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: the gift drinks. So do you reckon? Maybe people are 109 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: gonna take advantage of this per head thing and just 110 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: get absolutely smashed at the Christmas line. Yeah, but Amy, 111 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: you're forgetting that this isn't a professional event, and I 112 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: think again, it's more professional events that are catered for, 113 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,119 Speaker 1: or there's an event higher feet that you charge per head. 114 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: It's not like they're going to have some limitless bar, 115 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: like they're only going to have what's there. And I'm 116 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: guessing if they're charging per head, it's not going to 117 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: be an abundance of alcohol. Do you know what? Though, 118 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: this question actually makes me feel so Christmasy because to me, 119 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: family arguments are a big part of the festive season 120 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: and I don't feel like it's Christmas without one. Every 121 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve growing up, there would always be an argument 122 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: between our parents about oh I'm doing more outside. I'm 123 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: not even just them, but even just their family members 124 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: bickering about you know, who's going to bring what and 125 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: who's coming and who's sitting next to each other? Every 126 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: family goes through that, but it just actually makes me 127 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: feel Christmas. It doesn't make anyone else feel Christmas? Or 128 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: is this just like a fucked up situation? It does. 129 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: I feel like it does. And it's funny because I 130 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: was saying to Reese, because Reese and I are hosting 131 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: a joint family Christmas dinner with our family and then 132 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 1: the turners are you charging per head? Because we actually 133 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: did our big shop just before, And I said to Reese, 134 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: well that was quite a lot. How much are we 135 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: charging per head? But what I was going to say 136 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: is I saying Toese, do we need to do like 137 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: place cards? Yes? What do you mean? And I'm like, 138 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, so this person sits near this person. He's like, 139 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: I don't think so, because it was such an important 140 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: part of Mum's family Christmas because it always was like, oh, 141 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: this person would prefer to sitney this person and you're 142 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: trying to keep everyone happy. Well, I for one would 143 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: love to hear if any of the listeners have ever 144 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: been asked to pay per head on Christmas Day, because 145 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: I've never ever heard of this happening. So also, how 146 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: much they did pay per yes? And what do you 147 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: think would be fair as well, So go to our 148 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: Facebook community which has outspoken the podcast community. Do you 149 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: like some other dad? 150 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: I love it? Like deniche Mes? Please do these? Do you? 151 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 152 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: Please? 153 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: As well? We have. 154 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: A number of high profile comedians have contracted COVID during 155 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: an influence a boat party. Creators and influencers from across 156 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: the country attended the event in Sydney, with many now 157 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: forced to get tested last minute in the lead up 158 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: to Christmas. Sophy this sounds like an absolute nightmare. Can 159 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: you fill us in on what's gone on? Yeah? Well, 160 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: over the weekend influencers from around the country converged on 161 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: Sydney for a boat party held by Instagram and Creators Now, 162 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: so there's no confusion. That is in fact Instagram the 163 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: platform I'm referring to, and also a platform called Creators 164 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: which supports digital creators. So this was a huge event 165 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: and the event was held on the Grass Island Yacht 166 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: which is a three level boat which cruises the Sydney Harbor. 167 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: Now. 168 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: Comedians who've made it big on social media, including Millie Ford, 169 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: Matt Hay and Maxie Shield was there, as well as 170 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: mummy blogger Olivia White and a number of other well 171 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: known influences. Now, on Tuesday, things took a turn for 172 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: the worst when Matt Hay revealed on Instagram that he 173 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: in fact contracted COVID from the boat party event. He said, 174 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: judging by my DMS, everyone has already worked out I 175 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: caught it from the boat party, which is weird because 176 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: we were all outside for the majority of the night 177 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: and I have no idea who the original positive case was. 178 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: And I really commend Matt because he has spoken so 179 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: openly and honestly about his experience so far with COVID, 180 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: and he also approached it with such humor. Now he 181 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: joked that he feels like the kid in the class 182 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: that got back from Disneyland and everyone wants to know 183 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: every detail, as his phone has not stopped ringing since 184 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: he announced he has COVID. But aside from the jokes, 185 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: Matt shared that his symptoms have been very severe and 186 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: he believes that had he not been double vaccinated, he 187 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: would have died. This is what he said. 188 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 3: The first thing people ask is any symptoms, Yes, all 189 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: of them and times a hundred. So bad. Every time 190 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: I breathe, I'm in so much pain in my chest. 191 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: It's a very bronchhiadasy okay, very bronchidas, vibes, saw throat cough, 192 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 3: dry cough and flemy cough, running, nose, blocked nose, body aches. Oh, 193 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: I fucking got the fevers. The fevers, doll. Yesterday was 194 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 3: the worst day. I probably should have gone to hospital. 195 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: And I will say I reckon. If I was unvaccinated, 196 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 3: I probably this virus probably would have killed me. And 197 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 3: I don't say that lightly because during this whole two years, 198 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: I've been someone who was like, well, if I get it, 199 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: I'll be fine, you know, protect everyone else. But like, 200 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 3: if I get it, I know I will be fine. 201 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 3: I reckon I would have died, just quietly. And I 202 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: say that because if these are the symptoms that I 203 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 3: am having being fully vaccinated, I wouldn't want to be unvaccinated. 204 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: God. That was so frightening. And Matt backed it up 205 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: by sharing himself coughing on camera, and you could really 206 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: see the immense pain he was in. It. It was 207 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: very difficult to watch. He also said that at one 208 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: stage he was lying on the shower floor with boiling 209 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: water on his head, trying to breathe, and that he 210 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: should have gone to hospital, but didn't bring an ambulance. 211 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: He also said that his family was so frustrated and 212 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: angry with him for not doing so. And I think 213 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: that this just highlights the importance of vaccinations, as he said, 214 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: had he not been vaccinated, he believes he would have 215 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: died from this virus. Well, it also highlights the importance 216 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: of continual testing because at first Matt actually returned a 217 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: negative COVID result, but his symptoms continued, so he went 218 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: and got tested again the next day and that's when 219 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: it came back positive. So in just one day, scarily, 220 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: the result had changed. So Matt explained that the reason 221 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: he tested so regularly is because on Friday he was 222 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: seeing a friend who was immunocompromised, on the Saturday he 223 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: was seeing his nan and on the Sunday and Monday 224 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: he had symptoms. Well good on him, because I feel 225 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: like that's just a fear for everyone at the moment, 226 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,359 Speaker 1: particularly when we're going and visiting all our relatives tomorrow. 227 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: I do wish that they're there were more of those 228 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: rapid tests available. I know they're not one hundred percent, 229 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: but it would just be better to have a feeling 230 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: of security when you are going around vulnerable people. Well, 231 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: they are available in a lot of other states except 232 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: for South Australia at the moment, so we actually can't 233 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: get our hands on them until the twenty eighth of December, 234 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: which to me seems like a really silly thing because 235 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: I would love to have one to take before Christmas Day. Yeah, 236 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: and the thing is, I'm not saying that because I'm symptomatic. 237 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: I feel completely fine, but it's just a scary situation 238 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: because there are so many many people that are asymptomatic. Well, 239 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: I think the fear is that in South Australia, Nicolas 240 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: Spiria said that she doesn't want to put them out 241 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: until we reach ninety percent because people I don't want 242 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: people using them as a fallback because they're not completely 243 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: activate all the time. But it's better that someone has 244 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: some form of testing rather than no testing at all, 245 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: because there are such long wait times and if you're asymptomatic. 246 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: You've also been told not to go and get testeds 247 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: for people who have symptoms, so I feel like it's 248 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: a bit of a backup for people to feel safe. 249 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: Now back to Matt, Clearly, the most devastating part of 250 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: this for him is that he can't Christmas with his 251 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: family and partner and he does have to spend it alone. 252 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: But he did joke that the good news is that 253 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: he hasn't done any Christmas shopping yet, so he'll be 254 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: saving a lot of money this year. 255 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 2: Now. 256 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: As we know, one of the symptoms of COVID is 257 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: that you lose your sense of taste. And it was 258 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: pretty funny because he wanted to prove to follow us 259 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: just how bad it had got for him. So he 260 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: did a shot and he totally freaked out because he 261 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: just could not taste anything. I do remember seeing a 262 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: viral TikTok where there was a girl who got COVID 263 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: and she lost her sense of taste and one of 264 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: her favorite things to drink was coke and now to 265 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: her it tastes like garbage. I won if that will 266 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: happen to me in the teller that Mama had actually 267 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: been a good thing. Well, soph who else has tested 268 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: positive from the boat party? Well, so far we know 269 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: that comedian Maxi Shield also has tested positive to COVID, 270 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: and he used his platform to urge others to get 271 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: their booster shots and tests done. He said he was 272 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: really frustrated because he did have his booster shot locked 273 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: in for Monday bed Now unfortunately he won't be able 274 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: to go and get it done. Now. Another influencer who 275 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: has got caught up in this is a Olivia White, 276 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: who is a mummy blogger and runs account House of White. Now. 277 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: People might remember her because we spoke about her earlier 278 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: in the year for selling body shaped glasses that she 279 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: did in fact purchase on Ali Baba. Now that's just 280 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: to trigger anyone's memory who doesn't know who she is. Now. 281 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: Olivia lives in Melbourne and she traveled over to Sydney 282 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: for the event and it was quite ironic because on Tuesday, 283 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: Olivia shared a comedy clip on her Instagram story where 284 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: she said she was done with COVID and I think 285 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: it's safe to say that we all feel that way 286 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: at the moment. But she did cop quite a lot 287 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: of abuse over this, and she explained that being done 288 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: with COVID it didn't mean that she was done with 289 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: growing masks or getting vaccinated or booster shots. It just 290 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: meant that she's so mentally over the virus. 291 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: Now. 292 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: The next day, Olivia shared that she was in fact 293 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: in line at a testing clinic and that she could 294 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: see the irony in the post. Now she explained that 295 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: she did in fact go to the boat party event 296 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: in Sydney and there have been a whole bunch of 297 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: positive cases since from it. She said that she never 298 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: got a message all was notified from New South Wales 299 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: Health and believes it's because she is Victorian. Now, the 300 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: only reason she was in line getting a test was 301 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: because a friend had notified her of what had happened, 302 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: and in the friend's message it said that people on 303 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: the boat were classified as casual contacts and they had 304 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: to monitor for symptoms. See. To me, I was a 305 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: little bit surprised that she was only considered a casual 306 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: contact because I remember a couple of weeks ago there 307 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: was a cluster of omicron from another boat party in Sydney. 308 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: So it seems like a pritt of the high risk situation. 309 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm assuming because maybe the most of the party was 310 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: outside and they consider it casual. Then Marinos was a 311 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: three tier yacht and yeah, as as Matt was saying, 312 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: they were outside for the majority of the crews. I 313 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: do wonder if we will start seeing brands shy away 314 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: from holding events and parties like this because I do 315 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: feel like it is a little bit of bad pr 316 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: for the brands involved. I think they will be opting 317 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: to do a lot more intimate events and also doing 318 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: events out in open public spaces, not inside small, confined spaces. 319 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: Oh well done. She didn't want them, she wanted a diceon. 320 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: Oh oh well, I love a dicing, I love a 321 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: dicen Well, actually I did get a Dyson as well, Valerie. 322 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: What a Christmas implants and a dice. 323 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 4: In the paper about a woman who had m plants 324 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 4: and she went on on aircraft and how implants blew 325 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 4: up the aircraft. They didn't blow up the plane, ma'am. 326 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: They just popped out of a braw. 327 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: This week, Sarah's Day raised eyebrows after making controversial comments 328 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: regarding gift giving on her podcast, The Health Code Daily, Amy, 329 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: can you tell us more? Yeah? 330 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 4: So. 331 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: Sarah and Kurt recorded an episode this week entitled Santa's 332 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: Coming to the Teales House and the majority of the 333 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: episode was very sweet and it revealed that Kurt and 334 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: Sarah were very excited for Christmas. And I also touched 335 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: on how Kurt had put up Christmas lights to please 336 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: Fox and Sarah this year. So Kurt started the episode 337 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: by saying that he hoped everyone had been a good 338 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: boy or girl this year, to which Sarah responded saying, no, 339 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: one's getting a sack of coal. She then followed up 340 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: by saying this cutting comment. 341 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 4: Actually, Kurt said, this is the best comeback. Kurt said 342 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 4: to me, to someone who I don't particularly like in 343 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 4: our life, and he was like, why should I get 344 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 4: this person for Christmas? 345 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: I said, A sack of coal. 346 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 4: A sack of coal. So if you want to buy 347 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 4: a call for someone in your family you don't particularly love, 348 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 4: that's my recommendation. 349 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: So what really fascinated me is, if you listen closely, 350 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,359 Speaker 1: Sarah refers to the person as someone I don't particularly 351 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: like in our life. But then later she said she 352 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: recommends for people to buy a sack of coal for 353 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: someone in their family that they don't particularly love. So 354 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: it seems like she slipped up a little bit here 355 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: and now Kurt's response was pretty telling. Let's have a 356 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: listen to what he said. 357 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 4: Kurt has given me the stick guy. My gosh, oh wow, 358 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 4: we've done that. 359 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, we're going there now. While Sarah did not 360 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: name the specific family member, it's quite obvious that it's 361 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: someone from Kurt's family, and to me, I thought this 362 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: was really poor form to put this out there into 363 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: the universe, particularly when they're about to spend Christmas Day 364 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: with this person. All I can say is, I'm going 365 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: to be very closely watching their Christmas Day vlog to 366 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: see who's there if there's any tension involved. It also 367 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: seems like Kurt has quite a small family, so it's 368 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: there's not many too many people to pick from who 369 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: she may have beef with. It's rather interesting though, because 370 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: I remember when their wedding video came out, Sarah's family 371 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: featured heavily, whereas Kurt's seemed pretty sideline. There wasn't much 372 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: content of them in it, and this is I mean, 373 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: when you think about it, this is not just a 374 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: YouTube video on Sarah's channel and that's why Sarah's family 375 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: are on it. More, this is their actual wedding video. 376 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: I just find the thing so awkward because, of course, 377 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: as an influencer, you want to be really relatable and 378 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: open up about your life, but I think when you're 379 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: just dropping hints like this, it's not really very helpful. 380 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: At the end of the day. If you're not going 381 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: to say what the issue is. Is there really a 382 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: point in dropping these breadcrumbs and alluding that there is 383 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: an issue there. I think that Sarah is trying to 384 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: be relatable in this sense, particularly because family issues do 385 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: really arise around Christmas time. However, I think that it 386 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: isn't really helpful for the family dynamic going forward, and 387 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: I don't really think it's something that we, as you know, 388 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: consumers or followers, really need to know about their life. 389 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: We don't generally see much of Kurt's side of the 390 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: family as it is, so I don't really think it's 391 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: our place to know that information or her place to 392 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: share it when the family member can't actually really have 393 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: any sort of right of reply to it. Well, particularly 394 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: when it was kind of a dig. It wasn't like, oh, 395 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: let's do an episode about how to deal with family 396 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: at Christmas time, and the fact that they brought up 397 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: that a lot of people have issues with their family 398 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: and you have to work on those sorts of relationships. 399 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: It was kind of said as an immature I do 400 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: find it fascinating that they do seem to be dropping 401 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: a few bombs like this on the podcast, and it 402 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: seems like I don't know ifluences seem to think that 403 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: they can be a lot more real and raw on 404 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: a podcast as opposed to a YouTube video. I'm not 405 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: quite sure why that is. Yeah, And the funny thing 406 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: to me is that they think it's not going to 407 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: get back to this family member, like I swear that 408 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: someone will tell the person and this person is going 409 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: to be particularly shitty on Christmas Day. I would love 410 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: to know what Sarah and Kurt have ended up getting 411 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: this family member. That would be particularly interesting, because do 412 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: you think it's appropriate to give a family member that 413 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: you're not that fond of a shit gift? Or do 414 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: you be the bigger person and get them something that 415 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: they'd actually like. Well, personally, I wouldn't really want to 416 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: waste my money on something that someone is going to dislike, 417 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: even if I don't really like the person. I don't 418 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: really think that Christmas is the time to make digs. 419 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: I think it is the time to come together and 420 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: be nice to one another. I mean, particularly if you know, 421 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: for Sarah, if it's her husband's relative, I think for 422 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: the sake of your husband, you want to be nice 423 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: to that person. 424 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: Where do you think you're going Nobody's leaving nobody's walking 425 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: out on this fun, old fashioned family Christmas. No, no, 426 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 2: we're all in this together. This is a full blown 427 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: four alarm holiday emergency. 428 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: Here. 429 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: We're gonna press on and we're gonna have the half 430 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 2: happiest Christmas since bing Crosby tap dance with Danny fucking 431 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: k And when Santa squeezes his fat white ass down 432 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: that chimney night, he's gonna find the jolliest bunch of 433 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: assholes this side of the nuthouse. 434 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: The Kardashians Annual Christmas Eve Party is back after a 435 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: pandemic driven hiatus. The extravagant, star started event isn't without 436 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: drama this year, though, with the Kardashians ex'es causing headaches. Now, 437 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: before we get into this year's drama, Ky, can you 438 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit more about the Kardashians Annual 439 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve Party. Well, I feel like always on Boxing Day, 440 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: I'm living for seeing this event. It kind of extends 441 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: my Christmas joy out a little bit. So for those 442 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: who don't keep up with the Kardashians Instagram or Snapchat, 443 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: they have been throwing this annual Christmas Eve party for 444 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: over forty years now, Chris Jenner, the Mummager or the 445 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: matriarch of the Kardashian family. She hosted the first party 446 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: back in nineteen seventy eight when she was married to 447 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: Robert Kardashian, and the event started out as a small 448 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: gathering with friends and family, and as you said, Sophie, 449 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: is now an a list of event that costs hundreds 450 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars to host every year. Now. Chris 451 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: continued the tradition on after she divorced Robert. However, it 452 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: really was the success of Keeping Up with the Kardashians 453 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: that really took this party to the next level, and 454 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, Chris made the tough decision to pass 455 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: the baton on to her daughters. So in an episode 456 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: of Keeping Up with the Kardashians, Chris broke down in 457 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: tears and said, I want you guys to be able 458 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: to do this until you're my age and when of 459 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: your kids takes over. That's the job. It's just the 460 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: thought of actually not doing it at my house. I'm 461 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: getting emotional. It makes me sad, it does It makes 462 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: me so sad. It's just the magic that you can 463 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: make and make everybody feel so amazing on one night 464 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: a year. It's that love. It's not just a party, 465 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: it's changing of the guards. It was actually Kim who 466 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: took the reins from her mum in twenty eighteen and 467 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: reportedly spent one point three million dollars on the event. 468 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Courtney, she hosted the following year and she 469 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: seemed to skimp on the event in comparison to a 470 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: sister and only spent four hundred and forty six thousand dollars. Geez, 471 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: not good, okay, Now, just to put those budgets into perspective, 472 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, Kim had real snow brought in so 473 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: people could go sledding, and they also have had performers 474 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: like Sea and John Legend, whilst guests have included people 475 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: like Christina Aguilera, Drake Paris Hilton, Jennifer Lopez, Chrissy Teagan 476 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: and also Hailey Bieber. So you're definitely not going to 477 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: be skimping when you've met people of that caliber at 478 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: the party. Now, it's quite clear that an event like 479 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: this takes a lot of planning, and Chris Jenner revealed 480 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: that it takes her more than five months to organize, 481 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: so Chris said, we start organizing in July. The first 482 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: call they make is to Jeff Leithman. He's responsible for 483 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: my house decorations, flowers, garlands, fireplaces, and most importantly, my trees. 484 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: It's a major collaboration between him and me, and we 485 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: get so excited with like two little kids that I 486 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: get together with Sharon Sacks of Sax Productions and the 487 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: ideas start to take off. Now I just hope that 488 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: one day I am rich enough to have a stylist 489 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: to help me with my Christmas decorations. I also love 490 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: that Chris said trees rather than because I really would 491 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: love to have multiple Christmas trees in my house. 492 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 2: Now. 493 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 1: Last year, the Kardashians were in fact forced to cancel 494 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: the event because they received a lot of backlash for 495 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: hinting that they were still planning on having the event 496 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: during the pandemic. Now, despite the omicron situation that is 497 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: impacting the world currently, the party is still on this year, 498 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 1: and the drama is real. It definitely is, and it 499 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: all surrounds the important invite list. So Chloe Kardashian has disinvited. 500 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: And I love that week because we heard it so 501 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: often on Kim's fairytale wedding. She kept talking about disinviting 502 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: I think on inviting anyway. So she's disinvited Tristan and 503 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: then reinvited him. And this is of course amid another 504 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: cheating scandal. So this time Tristan has admitted to having 505 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: an affair with Mara Lee Nichols, who claims that the 506 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 1: basketballer is the father to her son born earlier this month. Now, 507 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: Tristan filed a lawsuit disputing the child's paternity, which has 508 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: been dismissed, and things have gone from bad to worse, 509 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: with court documents leaked to The Daily Mail revealing that 510 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: Tristan has alleged that the medical reason behind Mara Lee 511 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: being induced into labor was due to a sexually transmitted disease. Now, 512 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: in the league documents, Tristan also claims that he wasn't 513 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: the only athlete Mara Lee had been involved with, and 514 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: said that their relationship was just casual sex and nothing else. 515 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: Now to me, it's pretty clear what Tristan is trying 516 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: to do here. He's trying to create this narrative that 517 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: Mara Lee is promiscuous and sleeps around with a lot 518 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: of athletes, and therefore he was just coerced into cheating 519 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: on Chloe, and it's not his fault. When you said that. 520 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: Tristan claims that Merrily was induced into labour due to 521 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: a sexually transmitted disease, I automatically assumed that that was 522 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: because it would have been from Tristan, because Tristan is 523 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: the one who sleeps around with so many different people, 524 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: not her. No, no, no, he's trying to make out 525 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: that she's the issue here. That's disgusting. Yeah, So, Marilee 526 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: has denied the allegations, refeeling that she was actually induced 527 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: because of a placenta abnormality. She also claimed she thought 528 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: Tristan was single and denied that their relationship was just 529 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: casual sex. She said they communicated daily and saw each 530 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,239 Speaker 1: other several times a month. She also said that he 531 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: invited her to see him on Christmas, New Year's and 532 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: his birthday. And I just feel so bad for Chloe 533 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: seeing this play out again, and particularly with these recent 534 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: allegations around the STD, because it would just be so 535 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: not only humiliating, but you'd actually be very fearful for 536 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: your own health. And sources say that Chloe is disgusted 537 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: and disturbed by the allegations. Now it's believed if that 538 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: Chloe has reinvited Tristan to the event for the sake 539 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: of their daughter, True, Chloe does appear to be taking 540 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: a leaf out of her parents' book and trying to 541 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: stay civil for her daughter. But I think at this 542 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: point things have gone way too far. I do not 543 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: think I would feel comfortable at all to have this 544 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: person at an event with my family and friends, and 545 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: I can only imagine how fucking awkward this is going 546 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: to be because her family would be so furious at him. Well, sadly, 547 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: this isn't the first time that Tristan has cheated on Chloe, However, 548 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: the first time when it was made public was of course, 549 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: when Chloe was pregnant with True and Keeping up with 550 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: the Kardashians documented what happened, and it was quite clear 551 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: that Kim was absolutely furious. She could not hide her emotions. 552 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: She deleted him from Instagram, and I feel like it's 553 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: not going to be different this time around. If anything, 554 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: they're going to be more pissed off. It seems like 555 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: there is another awkward meeting brewing at this party, because 556 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: not only as Kim Kardashian's new boyfriend Pete Davidson invited, 557 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: but so is her ex husband Kanye God. This is 558 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: going to be so awkward because it's pretty clear that 559 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: Kanye wants Kim back, because last month, he shared a 560 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: screenshot of a fake TMD article with the headline Kanye 561 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: West says God will bring him and Kim back together 562 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: Inspire millions Now. Kanye tagged Kim in the post, which 563 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: featured a black and white photo of them kissing. So 564 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: I just feel like this is not an ideal situation, 565 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: particularly if he's trying to win her back and she's 566 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 1: there with her new boyfriend. In this situation, who do 567 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: you think should go to the party and who do 568 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: you think should stay at home? It is a tough 569 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: one because I feel like Kim and Kane have been 570 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: very amicable. Obviously, Kim went to a lot of his 571 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: album launch parties and she's been very supportive of him. 572 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: And the fact that Tristan Thompson is invited for the 573 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: sake of their children, obviously, Kim wants to keep a 574 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: close relationship with Kanye for exactly the same reason. I 575 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: think it's okay for both of them to come, but 576 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: I would be staying on separate sides of the room. 577 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure that this party is big enough for both 578 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: of them to exist without coming into contact with one another. 579 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: It's interesting, though, because I wonder whose house it's at 580 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: this year, because the sisters do seem to be rotating. 581 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: Kim's had to Go, Courtney's how to Go? Maybe it's 582 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: Chloe's turn. I do think if Kim was hosting, that 583 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: would make it even more awkward in terms of who 584 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: should be attending. It seems like things must be pretty 585 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: serious between Kim and Pete if she is bringing him 586 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: to the family Christmas party? Do you reckon they're charging 587 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: per heads for this party? Jeez? Can you imagine it'd 588 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: be pretty costly considering the last party was around four 589 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: hundred thousand and the other one was one point three million. 590 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: I do think it's funny looking back at the guest 591 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: lists of the cut Ashian Christmas Party because it seems 592 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: like they've had so many awkward years in terms of guests, 593 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: because if you recall, in twenty thirteen, Tiger and Black 594 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: China attended the event as a couple, and then two 595 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: years later Tiger was there as Kylie's boyfriend, and we 596 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: all recall that black China and Rob then went on 597 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: today and have a baby together. So it seems all 598 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: a little bit in zestial, and I do feel like 599 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: the good thing about the Kardashians is that they do 600 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: include everyone. There was a year when Caitlyn Jenna wasn't there, 601 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: but she's back on the invite list, so who knows 602 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: what will happen the year after. Do you know how 603 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: much I'd pay to go to this party? It would 604 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: be the best people watching exercise, but I will just 605 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: have to look out for the Insta stories and live 606 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: vicariously through them. On Boxing Day, Well, I think that's 607 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: all we've got time for today. 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