1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Bread the flick with ben o'she on ninety six AM. 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 2: Hello, good morning guys. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: You've watched something with the lovely. 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: Paul Mescal. Yeah, Paul Mescal, who is just he's so 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 2: ridiculously hot right now it seems like he is an 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: amory movie since normal people people are obsessed with him. 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: He was in a movie that was shot in Australia 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: that came out a couple of months ago called Carmen. 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: This film Foe starring Paul Mescal, was also shot in Australia. 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: He was actually he's actually just finished shooting Carmen and 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: was still in the country and the Australian director, Garth 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: Davis thought, you know what, I wonder if I could 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: get Paul Meskal. I want to reach out. And so 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 2: they caught up for a coffee in Sydney just before 15 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: he left the country and he put a script in 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: front of him and he said, yeah, you know what, 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: while I while I'm in Australia, I might as well 18 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: make another movie. And that's basically how this came about. 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: Well you're down there, yeah and so and it also 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: is the amazing Sasha Ronan, the Irish actor. Both Irish actors, 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: and she's been nominated for four or five Academy Awards 22 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: over her career, from Brooklyn to Hannah to Little Women. 23 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: She's just really believe Yeah, Lady bird Well, of course, 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: is just a fantastic resume for such a young actor. 25 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 2: And this film is about a very topical thing right now. 26 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: It's about artificial intelligence, which is just interesting timing. Colin's 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: Dictionary just announced the word of the year A curious 28 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 2: to get your take, Lace, Ai. 29 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: Well, you and I are just discussing what's happened to 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: dictionaries where they don't know what a word is because 31 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: that's an abbreviation. It's abbreviation for artificial intelligence exactly. 32 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: So Colin's Dictionary doesn't know what a word is in 33 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: this film. In this film, it takes a sort of 34 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: a dystopian view of the world. It's set, you know, 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: I think it's in the year twenty sixty five something 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: like that. The world has kind of gone to hell 37 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: in a handbasket, and humanity is sort of last hope 38 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: is maybe going up into space to this space station. 39 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: And it's based on based on a book called Foe 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: by Ian Read and anyway, and so there's a kind 41 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: of a conscription system in operations. So they need humans 42 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: to go up to road test to be the guinea 43 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: pigs of this space station. And you don't have much 44 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: of a choice. You get chosen, You go up for 45 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: a couple of years. If you don't like it, you 46 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: land in jail. And so one day this couple who 47 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: live in sort of remote Midwest of America, Paul Mescal 48 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: and Sashaaron and just living this kind of quiet life 49 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: off the grid. Along comes a stranger and says, guess what, 50 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 2: Paul Mescal, You've been chosen. You're going up to space. 51 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: Numbers of your numbers, numbers being called. But don't worry. 52 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: It's not all doom and gloom. You know, you've got 53 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 2: a couple of years to kind of get your stuff 54 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: in order, and then we'll be shooting you off into 55 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: space and you don't come back. You maybe come back 56 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: in a. 57 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: Couple of years. 58 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: But you don't have to worry about you don't have 59 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: to worry about your missus, because we've got a human 60 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: replicant and Ai who's exactly the same as you episode 61 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: who's going to he's going to come in and help 62 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: her look after the house, make sure she's okay, she 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: doesn't get too lightly. And so then this this stranger 64 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: played by Aaron Pierre, spend some time with the couple, 65 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: sort of interviewing them, getting to know them, and sort 66 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: of putting them through some psychological tests, all in the 67 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: name of programming this AI. Yes, so it can do 68 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: a better job of replicating Paul Mescal and so in 69 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: the process accurately. That's right. So in the process of this, 70 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: this these interviews in psychological examination, some cracks in the 71 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: relationships start to appear, and and it almost becomes a 72 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: bit tougher esque, you know. So you're talking about sort 73 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: of strangers appearing out of nowhere, and sort of Paul 74 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: Mescal's character starts to think in as a bit of 75 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: a conspiracy going on, and maybe this stranger is actually 76 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: trying to make moves on his misses. So there's a 77 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: lot of there's a lot of stuff going on, and 78 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: then it kind of culminates with a couple of big 79 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: twists towards the end, which we won't go into. All 80 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: of this probably sounds pretty good, right, sound. 81 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: It's appealing to me, Well, I feel about. 82 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: Coming and so unfortunately that despite the fact that there's 83 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: some fantastic performances. Paul mescal is actually amazing in this film, 84 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: Like some of the scenes are just incredible and social 85 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: Renan is always good as she is again, but the 86 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: film just doesn't work. The dialogue. The dialogue is terrible, 87 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: like it is. Maybe it was because of the book 88 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: that it was based on just didn't translate to the screen, 89 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: but it just does not make any sense. They don't 90 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: talk like the way humans talk, and so they they're 91 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: delivering their lines and you're just going, come on, like, 92 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: give me a break, Like I'm more likely to believe 93 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: the space station and the AI and the dystopian future 94 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: than i am to believe a basic conversation that you 95 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: guys are having in your kitchen, because that's just not 96 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: how humans talk. And it's a real shame because it was. 97 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 2: It was directed and co written by Garth Davis, who 98 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 2: is the Aussie director who gave us the amazing movie 99 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: line from twenty sixteen with Dev Patel Nicole Kimman, like 100 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: such an amazing film based on a true story, and 101 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: so everything lined up for this film to be amazing. 102 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: It looks good, but it just just unfortunately you just 103 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: can never stop thinking that everything that comes out of 104 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: their mouths is completely stupid, and so it was really, 105 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: really quite disappointing. I would say this is one of 106 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: my most disappointing films of the year, not because it 107 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: is the worst film of the year, but because I 108 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: went in with such high expectations and it just it 109 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: just didn't live up to those expectations. And in the end, 110 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: it's probably unnecessarily convoluted, and they've taken a great premise 111 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 2: and it just goes around around in circles and you 112 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: get to the end and you go, Okay, that's the twister. Fine, 113 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: you know what you've sold me the book. That's what 114 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: I'm taking away. I'll discuss is I might just go 115 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: and read the book now, and I think it might 116 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: be one of those books that you just translation. Without 117 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: giving too much away. There's a couple of things in 118 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: the book sort of that they do stylistically in terms 119 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: of like the use of quotation marks and punctuation that actually, 120 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: by the time you get to the end of the book, 121 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: you go, oh, my gosh, that was a clue this 122 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 2: whole time that I didn't pick up. But how do 123 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: you get punctuation into a movie? Yeah, that's weird. You 124 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: can't do it. No, so so I think that worked 125 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: against them. Just a shame, just a real. 126 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: Right, Well, how many not as good as the episode 127 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: in Black Mirror with our own poles? Are you? 128 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: So? 129 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: That's that's a lot to write. 130 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: I don't know what this this one's this one's only 131 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 2: worth two stars? 132 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: Okay, disappointed? Saw you saw all the players involved, and 133 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: you can see why you're just splaining something better. 134 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Ben, all the best.