1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Susie Burrow and I'm Leanne Wood and welcome 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: to the Nutrition Couch, a weekly podcast from two of 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Australia's leading dieticians, bringing you everything that is new in 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: the world of nutrition, diets and good food from the 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: Nutrition Couch. Today, the latest food craze on TikTok is 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Lizzo Ciria or something we all should be making. Our 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: client case study is looking at weight loss shakes. Are 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: you using them the right way? Leanne has found some 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: lower card pizza bases that will help turn your favorite 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: pizza into a healthy option. And our listener question is 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: all about milk. There are so many out there, how 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: do you. 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: Choose the right one. 14 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: But to start us this week, Lane, You've got some 15 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: big news to share with our listeners. 16 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Susie, we just bought a house. I'm so excited, 17 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 3: so as some of our listeners will know, I'm up 18 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 3: here in Brisbane. The property market at the moment is ridiculous, 19 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 3: but we're very very stoked to have our very own 20 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: place and moving out of our townhouse very soon. 21 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: Very exciting, but a lot of work. 22 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so we don't know if we're going to renovate, 23 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: or just it's too far gone and we're just going 24 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: to knock down and completely rebood. So time will tell. 25 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: Very exciting congratulation, thank you. But it's also been a 26 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: big week on TikTok. Now, I'm not a massive TikTok user. 27 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure that will change as it gets bigger and 28 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: bigger out there, but you are, You're big on TikTok. 29 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: Tell us what is happening with? What's the latest food crazy, Susie. 30 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: The TikTok trend of the week is really around Lizzo's 31 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 3: Nature's Cereal. So let me explain for our listeners at 32 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: home what it is. It's basically some coconut water with 33 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 3: some freshberries and a bowl. She's got some berries, she's 34 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: got some cranberries, and she's also then put some ice 35 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: cubes in it. So essentially she's called it nature cereal. 36 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 3: Nothing healthier, nothing more fresh, nothing, you know, closer to nature. 37 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 3: And yeah, people are going nutspreat, Susie. It's trending all 38 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: over TikTok. It's trending, it's breaking the internet and it's 39 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: literally I looked at it and I was like, it's 40 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: fruit and ice in coconut water. I don't get it, 41 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: but people going nutspread. 42 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: It'd be pretty refreshing. 43 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: It would be lovely and refreshing, but I just I 44 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: couldn't see it as a as a balance stuff she 45 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: for breakfast. To me, it's really lacking that protein and fiber, 46 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: and breakfast is one my favorite meals of the day, 47 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: and if I don't eat something substantial, I'm hungry literally 48 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: about seven thirty about half an hour later. 49 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: So because there's no Cereal grains in it, so you're 50 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: not getting any dietary fiber. Really well, you're getting some 51 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: from the berries, I guess, but none from any grains 52 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: and none of. 53 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: That full factor. 54 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: But I think it would be light and refreshing, but 55 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: I couldn't have it definitely it would be hard on 56 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: your teeth. 57 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. They're chewing these like huge ice cubes down 58 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 3: whole as well. So for me, I see it as 59 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: a really lovely, refreshing summer almost like a snack I think, 60 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: rather than a meal replacement. Definitely not comparative to Cereal. 61 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 3: I would say. There are definitely some terrible zero options 62 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: on the market, but there are actually some good ones 63 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: these days as well, So for me, I wouldn't really 64 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: see it as a replacement to cereal, but lovely and 65 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: refreshing for summer, I would think. 66 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: And if I'm thinking about with clients that I do 67 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: recommend cereals for, you know, there's definitely some amazing ones 68 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: with digestive health benefits. You know, if someone's got you know, 69 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: chronic constipation or upset tummy, getting some of that really 70 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 1: good cereal fiber can be a really strategic way to 71 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: make them basically feel better and get their digestive system working. 72 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: And I think you'd be more familiar with this than 73 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: I am. But my understanding is TikTok's full of a 74 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: lot of younger people, like a lot. 75 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: Of sort of schoolgirls. 76 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: And I guess the concern with celebrities giving that kind 77 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: of dietary suggestion and advice is that it's teaching young girls, 78 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: for example, potentially quite vulnerable when it comes to disordered eating. 79 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: You know, I think it could potentially be a little 80 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: bit of a concern. So keep an eye on what 81 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: the kids are watching. The last thing you want is 82 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: your growing teenage daughter suddenly munching on a bowl of 83 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: ice and berries when they need a substantial breakfast. So 84 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: I guess that's the other little slight concern I have 85 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: with that when any celebrity is giving some kind of advice. 86 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: That's impressible teens one hundred percent. 87 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: And the other thing I think is how many people 88 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: are going to break their teeth on those ice cubes? 89 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely very expensive. 90 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: And now, Susie, our listener question of the week is 91 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: around meal replacements weight loss shakes. Should we be using 92 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: them at? What are the best types? Do you want 93 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: to chat about a case study with us today? 94 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: It was just by chance, and this often happens when 95 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: you're talking to people, and this wasn't specifically. 96 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: Klind of mind. 97 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: It was more a friend and she's a friend of mine, 98 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 1: had been friends a long time. She's in her fifties, 99 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: and she just did mention that she was trying to 100 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: lose weight. And she's quite a small frame, like at 101 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: her fighting weight, I'd say she's about forty nine kilo, 102 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: so very very small. She's probably weighing about fifty three 103 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: fifty four, but for her that's quite significant because of 104 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: course the smaller you are, the kilos. Really she's very 105 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: quite small, and she said that it hadn't been working. 106 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: She'd bought a meal replacement product, and when she went 107 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: through what she'd been eating, she'd been having two of 108 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: these meal replacement shakes per day. I think it was 109 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: the Lady Shake. One in the morning that she was 110 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: adding some yogurt coconut yogurt to some berries, some seeds, 111 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: some chea, and then she was having she's vegetarian, so 112 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: a fairly healthy lunch of some sort of salad some 113 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: nuts in the afternoon, and then she was often having 114 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: a second shake per day. And just when I was 115 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: doing a quick macronutrient calculation sort of how much protein 116 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: is she having, how much carbohydrate, I had a look 117 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: and that specific product had twenty eight grams of protein 118 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: per serve. Now, a mirror replacement shake, for our listeners, 119 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: is a product that has been scientifically formulated to replicate 120 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: the nutrients of a meal, as if you were having 121 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: a steak and veggies in much lower form of calories. 122 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: So the average mirror replacement product, and they're all pretty similar, 123 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: will have about two hundred calories, which is a very 124 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: small meal and hence supportive of weight loss, particularly when 125 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: they're consumed as a complete meal replacement. And I guess 126 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: the thing for me, though, was that I thought, twenty 127 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: eight grams of protein in a single mirror replacement shake. 128 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: That's not without the milk added, that's not without the 129 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: yogurt added, was quite a lot. So when I calculated 130 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: for my friend, given that she's five foot nothing, she 131 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: was having two of those a day, So that's instantly 132 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: fifty six grams of protein plus all the other proteins 133 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: she would have been having from nuts and adding some 134 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: meal course some coked out yogurt to that mix. So 135 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: she was awake at having sort of seventy eighty grams 136 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: of protein. Now, even at an upper recommended limit of 137 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: a gram of protein per kilo, she was twenty thirty 138 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: grams more than she even needed to be her ideal 139 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: weight of forty nine to fifty kilos. And I thought 140 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: it was worth a bit of a chat because so 141 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: often clients were talking to, or people interested in weight 142 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: loss will go to a pharmacy or go to a 143 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: supermarket and pick up a weight loss product, but it 144 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: doesn't always mean that it's specific enough for the individual. 145 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: What is your experience with mial replacement shakes and particularly 146 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: with women. 147 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, in my experience, I find that I've had clients 148 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: in the past use them, And it's more that they're 149 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: so hungry afterwards that they're eating additional on top of it, 150 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: which sort of defeats the purpose as well. So yes, 151 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: they can. I mean, they've been scientifically formulated to give 152 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 3: us some good nutrition, you know, better choices than maybe 153 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: some sugary cereal or something like that. But a lot 154 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: of the times if you're going to then add additional 155 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: calories on top of that, they sort of defeat the purpose. 156 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 3: And for me, drinking like a cup of fluid isn't 157 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: going to cut it in the morning. Like for me, 158 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 3: it's just not substantial enough to actually fill me up, 159 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 3: which is going to drive me to eat more and 160 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: snack more later. And I think the thing is a 161 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: lot of times people will add healthy ingredients to the shakes, 162 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: you know, nuts, seeds, nut butters, coconut water, whatever it is, 163 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: and that's all well and good, but healthy is different 164 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: to bat loss. And that's one of my favorite quotes, 165 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: because something can be healthy but not actually helpful for 166 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: us for fat loss, particularly when it comes to fats 167 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: because they are quite energy dense. 168 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: So well, that was exactly what was happening because she 169 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: started with this two hundred calorie shake, and then she's 170 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: adding coconut yogurt, which is really high in fat, so 171 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: high in calories, plus chia, which again is really good 172 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: for us, but really high in calories. I think she 173 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: would put a banana, so her two hundred calorie meal 174 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: replacement was actually turning out to her four hundred, five 175 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: hundred calorie breakfast, which is far more than if she 176 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: had a couple of slices of toast and two eggs, 177 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: and probably would have been better for weight loss. So 178 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: I think just it's a good reminder that first of all, 179 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: weight loss is not a one size fits all model. 180 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: A mirror replacement shake can be used, but it's got 181 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: to be used the right way. And third, I would 182 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: say for women in particular, my small females who are 183 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: that five foot nothing, you know, ideally weighing between fifty 184 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: and sixty kilos, the upper recommended limit is about a 185 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: gram percula of protein, So for me, twenty eight grams 186 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: of protein in a single mirror placement is a bit 187 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: on the high side, and I tend to go for 188 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: about twenty and that gives you a little bit of 189 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: room to move if you're adding milk to it, So 190 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: just be aware that the product. Sometimes it's worth a 191 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: bit of a check before you're using them again. 192 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: And there are some definitely higher protein recommendations for some 193 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: of our athletes out there, But in this case, or 194 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: in this situation, I think about a gram to one 195 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: point two would have been absolutely more than enough because 196 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: more protein definitely isn't always better, which is sometimes a 197 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,479 Speaker 3: message we receive from the media, isn't it ZUZI. 198 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: One hundred percent? 199 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: All right? 200 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: Well, moving on to more exciting things, because I think 201 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: this is a product that so many listeners will love 202 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: to hear about. 203 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: We all love pizza. 204 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: Who doesn't look but you know it does tend to 205 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: be a little bit on the high carb side, particularly 206 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: if you having a big one that you buy away 207 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: from the home, or even you know, making one on 208 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: a Lebanese base, you're going to get between say forty 209 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: eight and sixty grams of carbs. But you have found 210 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: a brand new pizza base for us, which is going 211 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: to revolutionize the way we enjoy pizza. 212 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 3: I have. I was at US the other day, Susi 213 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 3: and I picked up our high protein pizza bats and 214 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 3: it sparked my interest because you know, protein is good 215 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: for fat loss and for maintaining our muscle mass helps 216 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 3: us metabolically. Again, we don't need protein in absolutely everything, 217 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: but on a pizza typically we've got sometimes vegetarians for example, 218 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: or I love just popping some veggies onto a pizza, 219 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: but again, most of the time it lacks that protein. 220 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 3: So finding a base with the extra protein in it 221 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: very much intrigued me. It was a bit lower carb 222 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 3: as well, So the brand was actually just Woors, so 223 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: it was Wororse Home brand. It was called thin Crust 224 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: high Protein Pizza Bases. You got two per packet, and 225 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: the nutritional information on that was actually pretty good as well, 226 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: Like it was quite high in fiber, a little bit 227 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 3: lower carbohydrates, and higher in protein than what a standard 228 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: pizza base would be as well. 229 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: And so what was what was making giving those nutritionals? 230 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 2: What was the base? 231 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the main ingredient was wholemeal wheat flour and 232 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: also modified wheat starch, wheat gluten, and wheat protein isolate, 233 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: which I think is from that higher protein. So in 234 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 3: each pizza one base was two hundred and seventy calories 235 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: with close to fifteen grams of protein. Twenty two grams 236 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: of carbs and nineteen point six grams of fiber, which 237 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 3: is whopping. 238 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: That is a really positive profile because I'm just thinking 239 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: that if you then use that so less than three 240 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: hundred calories, you know, a small meal in itself admittedly, 241 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: but those levels of carbohydrate and protein are very strong. 242 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: The fib is. 243 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: Huge, so you're going to hear a lot full of 244 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: Like to give you a reference, if you had a 245 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: wholemeal Lebanese bread, you'd be getting got four grams of 246 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: five best, I think, So it's really going to be. 247 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: A much more filling option. 248 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: And then if you had that is a vegetarian pizza, 249 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: so had your capstick up and your mushrooms, use youukini 250 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: all quite low calorie veggies with a little bit of 251 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:58,239 Speaker 1: a white cheese. 252 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: A ricotta, a feta. 253 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: You know, that is actually going to be a really 254 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: low calorie meal overall when you can have the whole thing. 255 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: Exactly, and that's the most important part, so is you 256 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: can actually eat the whole pizza. Brace. Nothing breaks my 257 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: heart more when I have to give clients you know, 258 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: you could have two or three slices and they're like, 259 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 3: canate the whole thing, I'm like, sorry, Like it's just 260 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 3: too high calorie to promote bat loss for you. So 261 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 3: the fact that I found these makes me very, very excited, 262 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 3: And we definitely are recommending more of a plant forward 263 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 3: style of eating, particularly for our Got Help. There's so 264 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: many wonderful benefits of focusing more on plants within our diets. 265 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: So using these as a vegetarian pizza option is wonderful 266 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 3: I think. 267 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: Because yeah, absolutely with those calories, could factor that in 268 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: it is a meal a week and still be clocking 269 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: in definitely less than four hundred calories, which is great. 270 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: How much were they were they retailer? 271 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 3: They're actually pretty reasonable. I was surprised, so five dollars 272 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: for a two pack. 273 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: Fantastic, well done, Willies, and just in the regular bread section. 274 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were where the wraps and the pizza bases 275 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: were is where I found them. Yeah. And I've been 276 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: to a couple of wors up here and I'm Brisbane 277 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: now and they've been in each one, So I don't 278 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 3: think it was a one up sort of product. And 279 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: I hope that will Worst continues to stock them. 280 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: We will put because we're always trying to track down 281 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: these products. We will put an image of those both 282 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: on our Instagram and our Facebook page at the end 283 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: of this episode so you can track them down to 284 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: and if you make any of the recipes using it, 285 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: put a post out. We'd love to see what you 286 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: come up with, because they're really strong product nutritionally. 287 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 3: And on socials. We are at the Nutrition Couch podcast 288 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: on Instagram and on Facebook as well. So moving on, Susie, 289 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: we're up to our listener questions. So our listener question 290 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 3: of the week is what type of milk is best? 291 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 3: And should I be drinking? Susie, any thoughts on milks, 292 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: because if you walked into a supermarket aisle, what are 293 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 3: we at? Maybe thirty forty different types of milk in 294 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 3: the long life sections. It's a little bit ridiculous, isn't it. 295 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: And the first thing I do want to say is 296 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: can we all please acknowledge that a lot of them 297 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: aren't actually technically milk? 298 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: You know, ylk, shouldn't it? 299 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 300 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: Plans, So it does need to come from actual memory 301 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: glands to be considered milk. So that's a bit of 302 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: a spin on words and what I would describe sort 303 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: of plan based milks, whether it's rice or oat, alm 304 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: and milk. I call them kind of more nut or 305 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: grain waters. Really, if you look at the nutritional it's 306 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: often quite a low percentage of the ingredient three maybe 307 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: six percent of the nart or the grain a lot 308 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: with a lot of water and often a little bit 309 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: of oil and sugar to get it to mix together 310 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: and be at least a little bit like the consistency 311 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: of milk. Now, when it comes to food choices, and 312 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: you'll be the same with your clients at the end 313 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: of the day. People might have preferences. They may also 314 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: have dietary intolerances, so they might find that dairy, for example, 315 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: doesn't agree with them, or soy doesn't agree. 316 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: But what we do want to be. 317 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: Quite clear on is nutritionally, the milks that mimic the 318 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: non cow's milk that mimics it is soy. Really, soy 319 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: is the only one that comes close in protein and 320 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: if it's fortified with calcium close to those key nutrients 321 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: binding hows no. And as such, if clients are happy 322 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,359 Speaker 1: to have that, will tolerate it. My first two preferences 323 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: does tend to be a reduced fat cow's melas just 324 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: to take out a little bit of that saturated fat 325 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: or soy is the next best choice nutritionally. But then 326 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: of course we've got the oat milk, the coconut milk, 327 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: the rice milk them day. 328 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 2: Well, give me some thoughts on those. 329 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, So for me, it's a taste thing, you know, 330 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: I do. I don't drink a lot of milk, but 331 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: I do definitely have at least one milky coffee a 332 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: day occasionally, Susie, we got very early this morning to 333 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 3: start podcasting, so I will probably have two milky coffees today. 334 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: I don't. I have a bit of lactose intolerance, so 335 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 3: I tolerate a small amount of dairy and I love 336 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: to have yogat or cheese most days, and soft type 337 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: of cheeses as well, with a bit more lactose than 338 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: what a hard cheese does. So my lactose intolerance sort 339 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: of stops me at having, you know, a full cup 340 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 3: of milk in my coffee. So probably my preference would 341 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: be a skin milk if I got coffee, But I 342 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: actually drink soy milk. I actual quite enjoy the nutty 343 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: taste of it, and the protein really keeps me full 344 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: in soy milk, which when you're looking at your milk alternatives. 345 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: Very very low in protein is probably the biggest thing. 346 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: And if you're going to have that as a snack choice, 347 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: you really do want that protein to just fill you 348 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 3: up and keep you satisfied, don't you? 349 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: And you you use a lot because it's another question. 350 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: A lot of the soy is full strength, which means 351 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: it's got quite a relatively high amount of plant fat 352 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: in it, and it's about ten grams per So do 353 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: you seek out a light. 354 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: Soil or REGI you do, so I use a light 355 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: soy milk, Yeah, I do. That's my preference again as well. 356 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: And then I think when it comes to rice or 357 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: oat or to me, it's more they sort of sit 358 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: in that space of formulated foods. 359 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: They're not offering me a huge amount of protein. 360 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: So what I think the message is for people if 361 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: that's your personal choice or you need to choose those 362 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: because of intolerances. I'm always looking for an unsweetened variety 363 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: and be careful when you go to coffee shops because 364 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: often the almond milk in particular and the oat milks 365 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: they use are not. They're sweetened because they taste better. 366 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: And then the barista type, which is a lot higher calories. 367 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: So a lot of people are ordering almond milk coffees 368 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 3: because the unsweetened almond milk you might be in the 369 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 3: supermarket might only be forty calories a cup, but the 370 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: barista sweetened almond milk that you're genuinely getting in the 371 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: majority of cafes is more, if not, you know, similar, 372 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 3: if not more calories than just using skim milks. You're 373 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: doing you're doing that just for weight loss, It's probably 374 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: the wrong call. So if you're doing that because you 375 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: love almond milk and that's the only one you can 376 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 3: tolerate fair enough, But. 377 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: So look, if you're choosing your own, look for unsweetened 378 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: and just check what the brist is using, because I 379 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: guarantee you it's probably the sweetened variety. And the other 380 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: key thing, particularly for children and teenagers, you've got to 381 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: make sure they've got a decent serve of calcium. And 382 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: there are still a handful of oat milks and that 383 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: don't have added calcium. Now, as a reference, you get 384 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: about three hundred milligrams of calcium from a serve of 385 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: cow's milk, and most soy milks are now fortified, but 386 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: not all of the others. So absolutely that is imperative 387 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: that you check that because we do see people with 388 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: bonushes over time, and calcium intaking Austraia does tend to 389 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: be a bit on the low side, and that's particularly 390 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: the case for people who don't include a lot of 391 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: milk or dairy or specifically plat milks that aren't fortified. 392 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more. Definitely choose an unsweeten variety and something 393 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: that's fortified with particularly calcium. Definitely. 394 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 395 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: So we're almost at the end, so we always have 396 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: a weekly wrap up on something that we're kind of 397 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: a bit obsessed with, and this week you've got something 398 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: to share. 399 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 3: What am I obsessed with this week? Susie I started, 400 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: I don't watch a lot of TV for our listeners 401 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 3: at home. I'm quite busy and if I do like 402 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 3: to relax, I like to go for a walk or 403 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 3: read a book, or you know, catch up with friends 404 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: or reply to questions on my socials that sort of thing. 405 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 3: So for me, it's quite rare for me to turn 406 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: on a Netflix series. And I think just with all 407 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: everything that was happening with Meghan and Harry, I sort 408 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 3: of went, you know what, where did Meghan and Michael start? 409 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 3: Whe did she come from? So I turned on suits 410 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 3: and I must say, Susie, I'm a bit obsessed. My husband, 411 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: David's a lawyer, and you know, he can't watch it. 412 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: He just goes. 413 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 3: I cringe while I'm watching it. But it's just so 414 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: easy and so lighthearted to watch. So if you haven't 415 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: tuned in, I think I'm probably a couple of years late. 416 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: There's about nine seasons I'm catching up on, but it is. 417 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 3: It's I'm enjoying it. It's really fun, it's really easy 418 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: to watch, very much enjoying it. 419 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: Of all the things I thought you were going to 420 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: talk about, that was not what I was going to say, 421 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: because I think that series is really like it's a 422 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: lot of years old. 423 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I haven't. 424 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: Watched it either, but I will say I do like 425 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: to have a series on the go, and I particularly 426 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: like it when you know there's several seasons to watch. 427 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: Yes, and coming into winter, maybe. 428 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: Not a bad idea. So since is the thing, I'll 429 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: give it a go. Next week, I'm going to watch 430 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: one just to see because I could do with a 431 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: new series, and the fact there's nine is doing it 432 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: for me. So I'm going to take that recommendation and go. 433 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: But I'm sure plenty of people will be rolling their 434 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: eyes right now because you're like ten years behind. 435 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: I reckon, Yeah, well, I love that. 436 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 3: There's nine seasons I started. You know, I have probably 437 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: got told fifteen times to watch was it Bridgeton, the More, 438 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 3: the Olden Day? Whatever it was? It was only one 439 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: season of it, and I got to the end. I 440 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 3: think I kind of again, I rarely watched something yet 441 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 3: if I do, I'm definitely got a binge watch it 442 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: in space of about two or three days. And I 443 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: did that and it was over and I was like, well, 444 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 3: what now I have to wait nine months for a 445 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: second season. So my preference is always to watch something 446 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 3: that's older that I know that there's been multiple seasons 447 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: for so it stood the test of time. It's got 448 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: to be good if it keeps coming back, you know. 449 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 3: So that's that's my recommendation and my obsession this week. Guys. 450 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 2: I love it great. 451 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: So that wraps us up on the nutrition catch this week. 452 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: Please follow us on our social media profile so we 453 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 3: are at the Neutrients Couch podcast on Instagram and Facebook. 454 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: Send us through your listener questions. Send us some products 455 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 3: to a review that you find in the supermarket. We 456 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,719 Speaker 3: would love to hear your feedback. 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