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Speaker 1: Well, look, joining me in the studio and we are

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Speaker 1: has been, in fact an incident overnight. And joining me

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Speaker 1: Support Command within the Northern Territory Police, Jack Evans. Good

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Speaker 1: morning to you. Good morning Katie, Jack, thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for your time. Now, Unfortunately our Northern Territory Police. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're due to speak to you about some training exercises

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Speaker 1: which are happening next week, but your skills had to

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Speaker 1: of ersh an incident out in Palmerston. Can you tell

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly, look like you say. Is that at Palmston

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Speaker 2: yesterday afternoon, just before four o'clock, police attended an address.

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Speaker 2: They're following up on a previous complaint of domestic violence

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Speaker 2: as they've attended trying to find the alleged victim from

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Speaker 2: the matter. Speaking with the mail he denied that she

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Speaker 2: the mail was informed he would be arrested for a

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Speaker 2: Luckily no injuries on the police officers, but it was

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Speaker 2: and try and resolve that. So quite a long night.

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Speaker 2: It was about twelve hours of negotiations before we were

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so about twelve hours of negotiating. So over

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Speaker 2: I'm not certain on how long exactly. I've got the

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Speaker 2: information it was a short period, so okay, but when

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Speaker 1: Yeah it be yeah, it can be short. For the police.

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Speaker 2: I understand that they were able to get her out

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Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like an incredibly dangerous situation, first

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Speaker 1: So this person was allegedly throwing hot water at the

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Speaker 2: We always tried to isolate, contained, negotiat We've got some

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely well done. Well done to the Northern Territory Police.

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Speaker 1: Now Jack, I've got you on to talk about the

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Speaker 1: It sounds like you guys are well and truly putting

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Speaker 2: we're going to kick off around eighteen hundred till about ninety.

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Speaker 1: Six, so that's this Thursday's tomorrow night tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: And this one, there's not going to be in explosions,

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Speaker 1: not be alarmed. Tomorrow evening there is some training happening

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory Police doing some really important training the TRG.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like it'll be an interesting scenario and interesting

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Speaker 2: keep doing these sorts of big style exercises. This one's

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, you know, to really simulate that crowded place. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And the difficulty is that that many people upset, nervous

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Speaker 1: Have you've done an exercise of this magnitude before? With

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Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like it is going to be very interesting,

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Speaker 1: The Northern Territory Police obviously going to be undertaking the

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Speaker 1: exercise tomorrow evening. Acting Commander Jack Evans really appreciate your

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Speaker 1: time this morning. Thank you so much for joining us

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you