1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Sarah's Day's unsurprising baby announcement. 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: Ruby Tuesday, Matthews causes confusion after showing off her second 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: engagement ring and Rachel Dylan's wedding hiccup. Hello and welcome 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest influencer and 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: pop culture news twice a week. I'm Kate Torbert, and 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: I have a question for you guys. Would you raw 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: dog someone's Instagram story? 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: I would never. That is a cardinal scene. 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: Why raw dog and Instagram story when you can create 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: a finster and look at it whenever you want, Like 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: that is just lazy. I just love the term raw 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: dog for those who are a little bit confused. It 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: means going in on your own personal account and not 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: giving a shit about looking blatantly at someone's story because like, 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: of course you can go and see who looks at 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: your story if you're bothered. I would never do this 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: to an everyday person with a normal following, but I 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: will raw dog large influencers who I don't follow, I 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: will look at their story They're. 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: Never gonna know. 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's different, because I mean, who is going to 22 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: go through if you've got a million followers, it's going 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: to go through it, but it is very ballsy to 24 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: do it with someone who's got like two hundred followers, 25 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: and I again I agree, I wouldn't do it. That's 26 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: why you set up a finster. Yes, there's a bit 27 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: of work involved, but at least you have the freedom 28 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: to go and look at whoever store you like that, 29 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: and if you accidentally do raw Dog, because sometimes you 30 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: can accidentally do it because you don't know, maybe there's 31 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: an Instagram story, maybe you thought you were looking at 32 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: their profile pick you can actually block the person and 33 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: your name will disappear from their following. This is from 34 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: an experienced instagrammer. So you block them for a day, 35 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: you disappear from that list. Don't you think it's so 36 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: funny when you do see someone who has raw Dog 37 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: or Instagram story, you're like wow, like what led you 38 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: here down this path? And you make up all these 39 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: assumptions in your head. I saw someone talking about this 40 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: on TikTok and a lot of commenters were saying that 41 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,279 Speaker 1: they have actually had an experience where the person whose 42 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: Instagram story they looked at then message them and said 43 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: who are you and why are you looking at my 44 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: Instagram story. My ex's new girlfriend, well not really new girlfriend, 45 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: has been raw dogging my Instagram stories for three years 46 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: and I want to say why. And the worst bit is, 47 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: you guys have been broken up for ten years. It's 48 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: not like it's a new thing. But I feel for 49 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: that girl. I actually think so for you would be 50 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: amazing friends with her. The fact that she is going 51 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: out and looking at your profile all the time. You're 52 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: quite similar people. I definitely am not saying that I'm 53 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: above stalking my partner's xes and that sort of thing, 54 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: but I think do it in a fake name, have 55 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: a certain level of respect for yourself to not just 56 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: pop up in their feet. You do end up creating 57 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: this almost roster for yourself that you regularly stalk. And 58 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: then you're really thrown one of these people dares to 59 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: put their page on private, You're like, hang on, I've 60 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: just been cut off. 61 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like there is celebrity. 62 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've bought into their life. You want to know 63 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: when they're seeing Jessica on the weekend, or what they're 64 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: puppies up to, or did they break up with that 65 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: boyfriend of yours And it's gone so much past the 66 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: point of them dating your ex, Like, it's more that 67 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: you're just invested in their life and like, oh, what 68 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: are they doing now? 69 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: After this weed to pack? 70 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: And everyone has been really nice to meet because I'm pregnant. 71 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: Are you? 72 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: Sarah's Day has announced she's expecting her third child with 73 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: her husband, Kurt Tills Now Kate. It is the news 74 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: everyone has been waiting for since Sarah shared in December 75 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: that she was starting to try. I don't think anyone 76 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: was too surprised by this news because she has been 77 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: baiting it for quite some time now. 78 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: What I was interested to see was how she decided. 79 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: To make the announcement. So she picked at Instagram reel 80 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: and also a YouTube video, and the Instagram reel included 81 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: a photo shoot. It's quite a grungey photo shoot and 82 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: it was very moody. It was reminiscent of m Davies's pregnancy. 83 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: Announcing is actually the latest that Sarah has waited to 84 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: announce her pregnancy. 85 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: She is fifteen weeks pregnant and. 86 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: It's down to the fact that Kurt has been too 87 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: busy to film and take photos of the announcement, and 88 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: Sarah said that she wanted to do something really simple 89 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: and laid back, but Kurt really wanted to do something 90 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: out there and epic, yah, but they didn't end up 91 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: having time, so they did go with Sarah's concept, which 92 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: I think is quite a rehash one. As we said, 93 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: like a lot of influencers are getting into a photo 94 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: studio filming their partner, putting their hands on their star 95 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: mich like, it's nothing revolutionary. 96 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: There would be so. 97 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: Much pressure on Sarah and Kurt to make this a 98 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: big announcement though, because remember her first baby announcement with Fox, 99 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: that video has been viewed millions of time. Yes, the 100 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: difference is though that was a massive surprise, whereas this one, 101 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: like Sarah has been very open about the fact that 102 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: she is trying to have a baby. I did enjoy 103 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: the YouTube video because you did get a real insight 104 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: into how desperate she really was to have this third baby. 105 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: And I think the most relatable part of the vlog 106 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: was the fact that her mum and sisters guessed that 107 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: she was pregnant because she was so grumpy. So it 108 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,119 Speaker 1: ended up that the night before she took the pregnancy test, 109 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: she'd had this this big fight with her sister at 110 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: family dinner, and she said normally they don't actually fight, however, 111 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: they're very brutal with each other. And this time the 112 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: brutal comment really got to her and she stormed out, 113 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, this is every family dinner at 114 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: our house like this? 115 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 2: Literally, are you guys pregnant? 116 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: Because well, I mean, I was gonna put it back 117 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: on you because I think one of your biggest pregnancy 118 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: symptoms has been being grumpy. 119 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: So it was quite relatable in saying that. 120 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: I was shocked how many pregnancy tests that she took, 121 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: because aren't those things fairly expensive. I remember being quite 122 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: taken about how expensive pregnancy tests were when I bought one, 123 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: and I didn't want any confusion, so I did buy 124 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,679 Speaker 1: the expensive digital one. But I did notice that Sarah 125 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: had a lot of the cheaper ones where they do 126 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: the two lines, and then when she thought, okay, I'm 127 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: pretty sure I am pregnant, she did confirm it with 128 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,239 Speaker 1: the digital she brought out the big boys. 129 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 130 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: I liked how Sarah said that she's not normally easily 131 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: offended and everyone in the comments I was like, wait 132 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: a second, you're offended by. 133 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: This, this, this, this. Yeah. 134 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: I also found it interesting that she told her sister 135 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: that she was pregnant before Kurt. Maybe it's because of 136 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: this is a contentious topic with us, Kate, because you 137 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: took I think nine or ten weeks to tell us anything. Yeah, 138 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: but this is her third pregnancy, so I think with 139 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: your first pregnancy, you need to tell your partner first. Also, 140 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: did you notice that she inadvertently actually announced her sister's 141 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: pregnancy because she's like, oh, you're four weeks behind you now. Yeah, 142 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: but her sister might have already done that on her 143 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: own Instagram. But her sister is quite private, so I 144 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: have noticed that her sister doesn't like to share her 145 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: daughter's face on social media. 146 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: But it has popped up a few times on Sarah's channel. 147 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: Doesn't she have some podcast? Because isn't she? She was? 148 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: She did have a midwife podcast, But I think that's 149 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: fallen to the ways i'd actually tried to find that recently. 150 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: One thing that did shock me the most was when 151 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: Sarah announced the news to her parents. They panned across 152 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: to the dinner table. They're writing takeaway Pizza, I really died. 153 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: Didn't Dad make some joke and say, oh, is it yours? Kurt? 154 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: That is just Dad slowed down to a t because 155 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: when we shared your announcement to us Kate, when you 156 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: reveal all of the men were just shaking hands. Yeah, 157 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: I feel like that's the dad thing to shake hands 158 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: and then making. 159 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: Joke and the question of the paternity. 160 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: I think that's just like the Aussie way to kind 161 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: of make light of the situation. It is very clear 162 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: that this type of content really does work for Sarah. 163 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: We've spoken a lot on this podcast how big milestones 164 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: like having a baby or getting married is content gold 165 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: for influencers, and the baby Real announcement has had two 166 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: point five million views so far at the time of recording. 167 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: She also followed it up with two more pregnancy related 168 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: real so. She filmed this video and Get Ready with 169 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: Me for her baby announcement photo shoot that has had 170 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: one point four million views. The second was actually a 171 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: real promoting her maternity workout program Body and Bump. So 172 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: she said that she's been consistently doing this program since 173 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: she fell pregnant. That reel has one point two million views, 174 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: So it's pretty clear that this is a very good 175 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: content strategy for it. I'm not saying she's had the 176 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: baby for content, no, but it's something that draws a 177 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: lot of interest around her, and I did have a 178 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: look at Social Blade and last month she actually lost 179 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: over fifteen hundred followers. However, in the last couple of 180 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: days since she made this announcement, she's attracted at three 181 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: point one thousand new followers, and I feel like that 182 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: number is only going. 183 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: To go up. 184 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: I do feel like often Sarah will use her baby 185 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: announcements as a little bit of a redemption arc. We 186 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: have spoken a lot about how she has been hemorrhaging followers. 187 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: Do you guys think that this. 188 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: Pregnancy announcement will be enough for Sarah to gain relevance 189 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. Look, I definitely don't think that 190 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: she's just having a baby because she's had a laalin 191 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: followers and she's trying to think of a way to 192 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: get them back. I think it's saying that, but I 193 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: think her strategy has been very different than it has 194 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: been the last pregnancies because we've never seen her be 195 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: so open about her conception journey. She has really been 196 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: sharing the details, and I think it's also, you know, 197 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: put a few people off because people have actually questioned 198 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: how sensitive she's been because she is someone that clearly 199 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: finds it quite easy to fall pregnant, and she spoke 200 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: a lot about how it was hard on her because 201 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: it took four months this time, whereas last time it only. 202 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: Took one try. 203 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I did find it a little bit uncomfortable 204 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: to put out there, you know, the amount of times 205 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: that you're trying and going into those sorts of details. 206 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: I think that the reason she's sharing differently about this 207 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: pregnancy is because her pregnancy with Malachi was high risk 208 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: and he had a lot of medical problems, and she 209 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: probably shut down and didn't want to share about it, 210 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: and she received a lot of criticism when she did 211 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: share about it. 212 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 2: I also think it's. 213 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: Due to the changing nature of social media and TikTok. 214 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: I think that there are more creators on TikTok who 215 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: are falling into these niches where they are sharing about 216 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: their pregnancy journey ahead of time. And I think that 217 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: she really relates to that content and wants to share it, 218 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: and she's seen other people do so I'm a little 219 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: bit surprised she hasn't used the tactic we've seen Aspenovi 220 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: I'd use, which is actually pre filming the content and 221 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: then putting it out there because I think she really 222 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: did put herself in a vulnerable position to be sharing 223 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: live updates about how long it was going to take 224 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: her to conceive. Yeah, it's interesting though, So if you 225 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: mentioned Malachi's health problems, I'm surprised she's being so open 226 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: now because of that experience. I'm almost surprised she didn't 227 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: pull back completely. Well, I suppose maybe because she's fifteen 228 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: weeks pregnant, so she has waited a little bit longer. 229 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: So maybe she's already had a ton of those tests 230 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: done and she's got they okay. I also think it 231 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: has to do with the fact that Sarah shared that 232 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: her sister Emily was struggling with her fertility when Sarah 233 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: felt pregnant with Malachi so quickly, so I think she 234 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: was trying to protect her sister as well. It is 235 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: really difficult when you do make a pregnancy announcement to 236 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: make sure that you don't upset anyone because obviously fertility 237 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: is one of those touchy topics where you are going 238 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: to trigger people. How do you think she's navigated this process. 239 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: I think you do have to be mindful, But at 240 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: the same time, I think a lot of influencers feel 241 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: like everything they do is wrong. So it's a very 242 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: sensitive topic and one little thing that you say can 243 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: trigger someone. I think that she be an unpopular opinion, 244 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: but I think that she has actually tried really hard 245 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: not to offend anyone and to do a lot of 246 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: trigger warnings and preface things that She's very lucky. I 247 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: wish we haven't seen her do before. See, I actually disagree. 248 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: I think that it can come across as quite disingenuous 249 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: when you put a disclaim in but then still say 250 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: something that is going to trigger someone. So she has 251 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: very openly spoken in the last couple of months about 252 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: how her first baby, Fox was a love child, and 253 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: then she said she fell pregnant with Malachi straight away, 254 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: and that you know, she detailed how many times she 255 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: had sex with Kurt and order for that to happen. 256 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: And now she's almost trying to get sympathy for it 257 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: taking a couple of months longer than she thought with 258 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: her third child, even though four months is a very 259 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: quick time around. 260 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see where you're coming from. 261 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: If I was struggling to conceive, I would definitely unfollow 262 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: Sarah's day. And I think the tricky thing with Sarah 263 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: is that she built her brand originally on talking about 264 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: fertility issues that she was having. PCOS was such a 265 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: big part of her channel, and it's so fantastic that 266 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: she is able to feel pregnant so easily. However, I 267 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: think because she would know that she has a fan 268 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: base that probably followed her from the start because they 269 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: may have potentially had the same fertility issues, it would 270 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: be difficult to be following this journey along and not 271 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: be triggered. I actually think the pregnancy would be a 272 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: happy time for her, but also a stressful time for 273 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: her because she does know that she has the added 274 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: scrutiny on everything that she does, particularly being a fitness influencer, 275 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: whether she gets back into it too quickly, whether she's 276 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: promoting on ahealthy lifestyle. But she's invited that scrutiny by 277 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: literally before she's even conceived inviting people along the journey. Yeah, 278 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: and the whole thing is regardless of what she posts, 279 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: I think anyone sharing baby news when you're struggling to 280 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: conceive is going to be upsetting. But I think what 281 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: you're trying to say, Kate is that she almost shares 282 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: too many details about. 283 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: It eighties Frost Yourself. 284 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: Ruby Tuesday Matthews has showed off a second engagement ring, 285 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: almost three years after being proposed to by her fiance, 286 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: Shannon Dodd now on a surprise romantic getaway. Ruby shared 287 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: two separate Instagram stories showing off the new ring. So 288 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: this ring is almost identical to her original engagement ring. 289 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: So it's a large rectangular diamond. It is around three 290 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: point eight carrots, so it's a little bit larger than 291 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: her original ring. And in the photo, the new ring 292 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: was stacked on top of the original engagement ring. And 293 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: in the post she wrote saying yes again and tagged 294 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: her fiance. And in the second post she did another 295 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: close up shot of the ring and said yes again 296 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: and tagged a jewelry brand. 297 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 2: This really confused me. 298 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: Is this a new thing where if you don't get 299 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: married in a certain amount of years that you then 300 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: get a second engagement ring, Because if that was the case, 301 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: I might have put out my wedding vewe well, my 302 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: engagement was over two years. I think I'm owed as 303 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: secondary engagement ring. It definitely did lead to a lot 304 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: of confusion and many people thought, well, maybe Shannon and 305 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: Ruby had split and this is a second proposal. Surely 306 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to promote the fact that we've actually 307 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: broken up since being engaged the first time. 308 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: No, but well you wouldn't. But there has been a 309 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: lot of. 310 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: Speculation that they broke up last year because Shannon hadn't 311 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: appeared on any of Ruby's Instagram posts since February, and 312 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: they also weren't liking one another's post, which is a 313 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: telltale sign. But she put the rumors to bed back 314 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: in June, saying, I love my kids and I'm not separated. 315 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm very much committed and engaged in my relationship. There 316 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: are things I sometimes like to keep private. This was 317 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: also around the time that Ruby had checked into a 318 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: facility to get help for a nervous breakdown, so there 319 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: were a lot of rumors around that time. So that 320 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: is what is leading everyone to think, well, maybe there's 321 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: a second proposal because of a break up. It's a 322 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: strange one because I have seen influencers share when their 323 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: engagement ring has been upgraded. So remember Georgie Stevens got 324 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: a new engagement ring, but that was after they got married. 325 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: I think even Beck Judd has had a improved engagement ring. 326 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: But the fact that she has stacked the new and 327 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: the old one on t top of each other. 328 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: It's very ruby, isn't it. 329 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: I wonder if this is some kind of marketing ploy. 330 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: I have seen a lot of people advertising dupes of 331 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: their rings. Maybe this is some kind of jupe copy. 332 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a bit bigger. I don't think as 333 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: a jupe, but I do think that she is trying 334 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: to drum up engagement for this new jewelry business, because 335 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: I had a look at the brand. So it's called 336 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: two Jaws and the account was launched on the twenty 337 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: seventh of March. It only has one hundred and ninety 338 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: three followers and six posts, and two of the posts 339 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: feature Ruby's new engagement ring. So I wonder if this 340 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: is a friend's business, she's trying to create some engagement 341 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: around it. I did love in our Facebook group that 342 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people were commenting on the photo because 343 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: it was Ruby's hand with so much jewelry on it, 344 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: and someone's like, how much does that hand cost? 345 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: Because she had. 346 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: Several Cartier rings, two Cartier bracelets, two engagement rings, Like 347 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: really going to have to bump up your household insurance 348 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: with that? It does come at a weird time to 349 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: do this lavish display of wealth because she recently complained 350 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: that she and her fiance were feeling the mortgage pinch, 351 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: so it kind of comes at odds with that now 352 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: since the speculation around these rings, she actually did delete 353 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: the two Instagram stories. But it gets even more confusing 354 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: because then on Monday, she followed up with a feed 355 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: post about the ring, writing double whammy. Yesterday, I was 356 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: beyond spoiled by Shannon with a spa day, massages and 357 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: Margi's and a night away, a Blackbird Byron and a 358 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: beautiful dinner. We are so lucky to have a daddy 359 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: like you, and I'm lucky to have you as my 360 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: best friend. Life isn't simple or easy, especially with me, 361 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: but I'm grateful for your commitment to our family and 362 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: by always sticking it out. This is a big statement because, 363 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: as you said, a lot of people have been questioning 364 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: whether the pair have broken up or their status of 365 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: relationship always seems to be up. 366 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: In the air. 367 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: So while there is a part of me that does 368 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: think this is a part of a partnership, I also 369 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: think it's a declaration of their love, and I do 370 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: wonder if we will see Ruby now getting into some 371 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: wedding planning. There were a lot of followers who were 372 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: excited for Ruby about the second engagement ring, but there 373 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: were also. 374 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: Others who question why the need for a second engagement ring? 375 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people said it was actually very greedy, 376 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: and Ruby responded to one of these comments and said, 377 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: I actually agree with a lot of what you've said, 378 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: But in saying that, I think the biggest message here 379 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: is the assumption that I got another diamond that would 380 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: be absolutely gluttonous. There are many other sustainable options to 381 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: add a little sparkle to your life without costing the 382 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: planet or your pocket. 383 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: It sounds like an ad. 384 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: So is she talking about mozernite rings or lab diamonds? 385 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: Is she trying to obviously say, well, this jeweler does 386 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: amazing lab diamonds that everyone will believe is a real diamond. 387 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: The more I hear about this, the more I think 388 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: that this is a big ad. 389 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 2: No, one's rocking those two huge rings. 390 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: Finger No, Because Emily Radikowski recently revealed her divorce ring. 391 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: So she had a princess cut diamond and also a 392 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: pear shaped diamond on one band, but then after her divorce, 393 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: she had it reworked into two separate rings, and she 394 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: said that it's part of her personal evolution. And I 395 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: don't think a woman should be stripped of her diamonds 396 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: just because she's losing a man, which I think is 397 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: a great message. So when I first saw Ruby's two 398 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: rings together, I thought, are they separated or what is 399 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: going on. 400 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: To break up engagement with? 401 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 402 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: Has she refashioned it? 403 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: Because there's a huge relationship announcement coming, but a negative one. 404 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 2: We are fourteen weeks out from the wedding. 405 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: We are upping the Auntie Finnis influencer Rachel Dylan married 406 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: entrepreneur Toby Pierce in Italy late last week. The pinterest 407 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: worthy wedding didn't go off without a hitch though. 408 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, this really surprised me. 409 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: So a couple of days out from the wedding, Rachel 410 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: revealed on TikTok that she actually had to reschedule the 411 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: date because of the weather. So the couple jetted off 412 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: to Italy early last week and they've been living it 413 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: up in Capri as all brides do so for you 414 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: know this, they were keeping a keen eye on the 415 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: weather report and according to the weather report, it was 416 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: set to rain on their wedding day. So it's currently 417 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: spring in Italy, and while Rachel and Toby had expected 418 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: it to be a little bit cooler, they were hoping 419 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: for a nice sunny day for their outdoor wedding. Now, 420 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: five days out from the big day, Rachel's wedding planner 421 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: organized an emergency meeting and she proposed rescheduling the wedding. 422 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: It sounds worse than it is, though. They actually ended 423 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: up moving the wedding celebrations one day forward, which meant 424 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: that they would get sunshine on all of the wedding 425 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: day events, so it was a multi day wedding. I 426 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: was watching this eagerly because I really felt for Rachel, 427 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: because a week out from my wedding I found that 428 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: it was going to be thirty five degrees and it 429 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: started to grow to forty degrees and a little bit 430 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: of me was envious, thinking, gee, I wish I had 431 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: the ability and the money to move everything a day 432 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: forward or a day back, But unfortunately for me, we 433 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: had a heat wave the whole weekend, so that was 434 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: not a possibility. Well, I don't think it would have 435 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: been easy logistically because it turned out that bringing the 436 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: date forward meant that some of the guests who were 437 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: traveling across from overseas ended up missing the welcome dinner. 438 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: Oh sorry, thought you're gonna say the wedding. Can you 439 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 2: imagine that? It's like, oh, yeah, fuck you guys. 440 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: We care more about You've flown all the way over 441 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: there and you miss it. 442 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 2: Well it was. 443 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: It was actually a very intimate wedding, So she and 444 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: Toby invited fifty guests, so there was only a handful 445 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: that actually missed out on this welcome dinner. What I 446 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: couldn't believe about this dinner was the fact that everyone 447 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: has been focusing on what one of her bridesmaids Isabelle 448 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: Mathers war So Isabelle, she is an influencer and model. 449 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: She's fucking stunning, But so was Rachel Dillon. The whole 450 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: wedding party were beautiful. I just couldn't get over how 451 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: stunning they all looked together. So the Daily Mail have 452 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: gone out and done this story about how Isabelle tried 453 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: to outshine the bride at this welcome dinner. So when 454 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: you do look at the dress, it was very revealing. 455 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: It is a sheer cream dress, sort of a bit 456 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: like a ball gown, and it's got this diamond cutout 457 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: where it shows off Isabelle's apps. She looks stunning, but 458 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: so did Rachel Dillon. 459 00:20:58,720 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 2: She was wearing a. 460 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: Short, cue white dress, looked perfect for the event. 461 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: They all looked good. 462 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: I don't like it because in this situation, it's actually 463 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: the media who was pitting these two women against each other. 464 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: Because it would be a different scenario if Rachel came 465 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: out after the wedding and said, Hey, I was a little upset. 466 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: My friend actually purposely tried to outshine me. Just say 467 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: if she did that and something that question never happened, 468 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: but some people might. Some people do share stories and say, oh, 469 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: I've had a falling out with this friend over extraanzettes. 470 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: Later or years later. 471 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: But I think that in this situation where everything seemed 472 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: to be planned to the absolute tea, Isabelle would have 473 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: got permission to wear that gown and she actually did 474 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: come out and say that. Because so the Daily Mail 475 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: have picked up on this story because a couple of 476 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: people in the comments said, oh, this was an inappropriate 477 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: dress for you to wear, and you tried to outshine 478 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: the bride, and she came out and said, the bride 479 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: is my best friend. You don't think I've discussed every 480 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: single one of my outfits with her. 481 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 482 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: I don't like the whole outshining the bride thing because 483 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: I personally have the theory that if you get really 484 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: dressed up for a friend's wedding, it's actually quite a 485 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: compliment because you've made a big effort. I find it 486 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: more offensive when people don't make an effort at someone's wedding. Well, 487 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: the thing is, it wasn't even at her wedding, was 488 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: at her bloody welcome dinner. I have to disagree with you, guys. 489 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: I can see why people are up in arms about this. 490 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: She has come along to this wedding dinner. Rachel is 491 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: wearing white because she is the bride to be. This 492 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: dress is like a sheer white dress. It's showing off 493 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: her amazing abs. It kind of does like it does 494 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: take the focus off. 495 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: What Rachel is wearing. 496 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: But Rachel wouldn't have included Isabelle in her wedding if 497 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: she was concerned about that. I mean, the girl is 498 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: absolutely stunning. They're all stunning, as I said before, and 499 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: they were getting ready together. So if they're best friends. 500 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: Surely there would have been a point where she could 501 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: have said, do you mind, not worry. 502 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: I think it's a really. 503 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: Sad concept that anyone is out shining anyone, because, as 504 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: you said, Kate, Rachel is absolutely stunning in her own right. 505 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: All of the women are stunning. Why does anyone out 506 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: shine anyone. I think people get confused when brides allow 507 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: their bridesmaids to actually look nice at these events, because 508 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 1: there is that old trope of a bride trying to 509 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: dress their bridesmaids in some hideous dress that they never 510 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: want to wear again and making. 511 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 2: Them look bad in order for them to look better. 512 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think it's clear that Rachel is very 513 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: confident in herself and was like, I want everyone to 514 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: look good. I think it just reeks of insecurity to 515 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: try and purposely make your bridesmaids look bad. They're your 516 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: friends and they're there for a reason. You want them 517 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: to feel confident and comfortable as well. 518 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: Now I want to. 519 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: Get into the wedding day because I could not get 520 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: over the place where they got ready. It looked straight 521 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: from a Pinterest board, with that breakfast overlooking the mountains. 522 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: That was incredible. I do love how Rachel's mum was 523 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: keeping it real though, because they showed her steaming the 524 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: dresses and it just reminded me of our mum doing 525 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: the same thing. I'm surprised they could have just paid 526 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: someone to be there to yeah, but that's the way. 527 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: It was nice because it was clearly a very expensive wedding, 528 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: a lavish wedding, but then they had touches of oh, 529 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: that's so normal for them to do that. One thing 530 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: that really stood out to me was how different this 531 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: was to Kayla at Senas's wedding. So Kayla and Toby 532 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: were of course engaged and they have a daughter, Anna together, 533 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: and Kayla was very open about the fact that she 534 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: was happy to go to a registry office. She didn't 535 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: care about having a big ceremony. She just wanted it 536 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: to be her and Jay. Her pa actually talked it 537 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: into having a wedding in her backyard. I mean, it 538 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: wasn't your typical backyard wedding. It was beautiful, but this 539 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: wedding between Toby and Rachel, this was a pinterest wedding. 540 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,239 Speaker 1: This is one of the most beautiful weddings of an 541 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: Australian influencer. I have seen for a very long time. 542 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: It just shows you how different Rachel and Kayla are, 543 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: even though they have both been compared the whole time, 544 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: and everyone's like, oh, well, he's just dating another I 545 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: mean fitness influence, And of course. 546 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: Neither is right or wrong. 547 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: Ye like, whichever way they want to get married. But 548 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: it was quite interesting having the wedding so close and 549 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: being able to compare the aesthetic and how they went 550 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: about it. Do you think Toby had much to do 551 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: with the wedding. I actually do think it has to 552 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: do with Toby as well, because if you do cast 553 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: your mind back, I think they had quite an elaborate 554 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: engagement party him and Kayla back in the day. I 555 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: get the vibe he's more flash than you. Yeah, I 556 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: think that this wedding is going to dictate a lot 557 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 1: of wedding trends moving forward. She did have light yellow 558 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: bridesmaid dresses, and I'm kicking myself because for the past 559 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: two years I've been talking about wanting to do yellow 560 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: bridesmaid dresses. I didn't have the nerve to do it, 561 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: and now I'm seeing them pop up everywhere. Even Margo 562 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: Robbie was in a wedding recently for her friend and 563 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: was wearing a light yellow fucking brides maid dress? 564 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: What did I do? 565 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: My advice would be just to get over it because 566 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: over no, I know, by the time you get the 567 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: wedding video, no one cares. I know you guys are 568 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: getting your soon. 569 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: But I came no. 570 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I've just got to unfollow a 571 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: lot of these wedding pages. I think that's what you 572 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: got to do. Well, that's so they're going to leave 573 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: things for today. Thank you so much for listening to 574 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: another episode of Outspoken. If you do want to hear 575 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: more content from us, we drop a subscriber episode every Thursday, 576 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: so keep an eye on your feet for that if 577 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: you aren't already a subscriber. All the details are in 578 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: our show notes. This episode was recorded on the traditional 579 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains. 580 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: We pay respect to elders past and present.