1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Mix one at four point nine dot com dotu for 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: all the latest news and information. Now three sixty with 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Katie Wolf. Everyone is listening Mix one O four point 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: nine one hundred percent. 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: It's fifteen minutes away from ten o'clock and it is 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 2: Tuesday morning. Time for you to catch up with the 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: Lord Mayor of Darwin convat Scarlets. 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 3: Good morning, corn, Is it Tuesday already? It's Tuesday already? 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 4: And live when you have fun? 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 3: Oh sure does. 11 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: And I tell you what's going to be a big 12 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: day today for all of our parliamentarians. Lots of stuff 13 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: floating around also here and I read. 14 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 4: It the newspaper, Kate. 15 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 5: And one thing I have to say about that is 16 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 5: be a parliamentarian is a very important position. Now you 17 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 5: have parliament, you got privilege and yes, anything you like 18 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 5: in parliament nobody can do anything about it. But at 19 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 5: the same time is a great responsibility. If you say 20 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 5: something that may destroy somebody's reputation on family, you have 21 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 5: to remember that one. But again, as a parliamentarian, you 22 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 5: say is something wrong, you have to bring it up 23 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 5: to the attention of the government. But this is something illegal, 24 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 5: you have to bring to the attention of the police. 25 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 5: So they're not even bad's there. But what I hear 26 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 5: and what I read, not only now, but previous governments. 27 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 5: I remember with Cop Kate, Claire Henderson, the Martin Headstone 28 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 5: governments were really boring. Nothing like that happened. Nothing it 29 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 5: came out. Mind you, both Claire and Paul will eviscerate 30 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 5: you if something like that came out. 31 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 4: But I was very pleased we were boring. 32 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: Well, I agree. 33 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: I think it's a good thing for our politicians to 34 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: be quite boring, if I'm honest. 35 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 3: Con let's talk. 36 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 2: Firstly, I want to ask you about that Nightcliffe Mahogany tree. 37 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: How did it go? That removal over the end of 38 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: last week. 39 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 4: I was there Friday morning. 40 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 5: When the people turn up to the movie, it was 41 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 5: very professional, I would say, surgical operation. 42 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 4: The people knew what we were doing. What really worried? 43 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 5: Mean when some people came to us and said, guys, 44 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 5: we hear some cracky noise from the trees, which is 45 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 5: not a very good sign because it was a really 46 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 5: big tree and the branches were huge. If they fell off, 47 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 5: they would destroy property. But most importantly, you've got the 48 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 5: Nightcliff markets there. The last thing you need is one 49 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 5: of the branches coming down in the middle of the markets, 50 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 5: because it will not be one or two people killed, 51 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 5: would be many. And we had already a child that 52 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 5: in athics and marriage school, and we had one in 53 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 5: the council's golf course and we learn a lesson. So 54 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 5: we got our local arborist, our own arborists. We examined it, 55 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 5: said it's extremely high risk. And then to get a 56 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 5: second opinion and got somebody from down south and some equipment, 57 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 5: and the advice was the same. So we decided to 58 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 5: remove it. We removed these huge branches. Some of them 59 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 5: actually are so good. We're going to mill them and 60 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 5: store them now in the depot, and eventually we will 61 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 5: make furnitures that we will put in the Nightcliff. 62 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 4: Area in that area. 63 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 5: And now we're looking for a good sculptule with a 64 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 5: good chainsaw to actually sculpt something on the trunk. Rather 65 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 5: than waste it, let's do something there and we have 66 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 5: something as a memorial to the three, because I remember 67 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 5: the three being so big when I first came to 68 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 5: downy years ago. And of course the other thing is 69 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 5: now we have to plan some more, say the trees, 70 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 5: and put some say to. 71 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 4: Cover the area because it's quite often. No, I no, 72 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 4: trees are very important. I just finished planning eleven thousand trees. 73 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 4: But they're living things. 74 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're born, grow, die, and I don't wonder when 75 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 5: they die to take somebody else with them. So important 76 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 5: thing was the safety of the public. I can plant 77 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 5: other trees that can grow very quickly. 78 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and I do think that you've got 79 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: to make sure that the public is safe. 80 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 3: There is no doubt about that. I do want to 81 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: ask you. 82 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: Yesterday on the show, we were joined by Larakia Nation, 83 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: and we spoke about some of the issues that we've 84 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: got at the moment with there being a lot of 85 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: people coming in from different communities and they're being a 86 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: little bit more of that public intoxication in the city. 87 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: Is this something that's an issue for counsel at the moment. 88 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 89 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 5: People come from the communities, first of all, because they 90 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 5: are lauded with money, with this money given to them 91 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 5: by the welfare and the federal government because of COVID nineteen. 92 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 5: There's no way to spend the communities because there's no entertainment, 93 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 5: nothing at all. 94 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 4: So they come here a lot with money and they 95 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: go to the into the alcohol. 96 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 5: Now my worry is we've got all these measures in place, 97 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 5: b ther you know the floor price, and these people 98 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 5: still get alcohol. 99 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 4: Now. 100 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 5: I was talking to one of my fellow mayors in Mataranka, 101 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 5: Judy McFarland said to me, when COVID came, the liquor 102 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 5: commissioner made the decision, if you don't live in the area, 103 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 5: you can't take get takeaway. And from one hundred and 104 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 5: one incidents last the month before, only all of them 105 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 5: alcohol related. The incident that the clinic attended the month 106 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 5: after was only three and none of them alcohol attended. 107 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 5: So alcohol is the big problem, not only Dowin but 108 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,679 Speaker 5: other places. That's an idea that the gument should consider. 109 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 5: If not from Darwin, you can't get takeaway. You can 110 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 5: go to the restaurant, you got the pub and drink, 111 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 5: but you can't take takeaway. 112 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 4: I reckon this one might reduce the number of people 113 00:04:58,440 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: in toxic people they come here. 114 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 5: You don't see them in the mall because our patrols 115 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 5: and our out its program works really well. But they're 116 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 5: hiding in Casuin, across a Reserve and East Point. 117 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: Con Is it something I mean? Is it? 118 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: Is it something that takes up council resources in terms 119 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: of you know, we do see a lot of bottles 120 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: and things like that obviously around the place and it 121 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 2: has an impact. Do we Is it something that that 122 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: council spends quite a substantial amount of money on. 123 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 5: Absolutely, kid, We've got the outreach program people the two 124 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 5: of our rages. 125 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 4: They're Indigenous. 126 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 5: They go out six o'clock in the morning and they 127 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 5: go around to check all the people that sleep rough 128 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 5: and they advise them instead of the doctor. Then we 129 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 5: pay for the patrol, the city patrol, quite a significant 130 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 5: amount of money per per year. And then of course 131 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 5: we've got the people that go to clean areas where 132 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 5: there's rubbish or overgrown so people don't hard. 133 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 4: Underneath, so we reckon. 134 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 5: We spend about three to four million dollars a year 135 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 5: just for the tinerance with significant amount of money, and 136 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 5: my beef is a year. 137 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 4: Absolutely where's the police. 138 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: So that's clean up, security, patrols, outreached people, everything else. 139 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 4: But the issue is that it can be done is 140 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 4: what was done before. 141 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 5: We found out from experience that foot patrols by the 142 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 5: police in the hot spots if reduces immediately the problem. 143 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 5: But unfortunately we haven't seen it. I mean the police 144 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 5: station here and now and stay closed. We have to 145 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 5: go to Palmerston. I mean people calling for it, but 146 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 5: obviously somebody's not listening. 147 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 3: Is that something that you want reopened? 148 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 5: Mate, I've been asking for that one for a long time, 149 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 5: US be asking for foot patrols in the city. I 150 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 5: can't see why it's so difficult when previous commissioners did it. 151 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 5: I mean, if the police got problem. 152 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: Chalk must have a big juggle on his hands at 153 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: the moment into I. 154 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 4: Don't know even at all. 155 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 5: He has to be to deal with the COVID nineteen 156 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 5: and that takes a lot of resources. But at the 157 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 5: same time, I understand police need more people. Of course, 158 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 5: please listen that you hear. To listen to the chief 159 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 5: minus say they're going to get three more groups of 160 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 5: policemen coming out. 161 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 4: It's music to my ears. 162 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 5: But what I need I don't need people in the offices, 163 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 5: and need people on the streets and every territory. 164 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 4: And if you ask them, they say, where's the police? 165 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: Con Can I ask? 166 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: I let's move along slightly because I do want to 167 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: talk to you about the bombing of Darwen event that's 168 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: being held on Friday. I know that it is such 169 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: a significant event and such a significant memorial in our history. 170 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: What's happening on. 171 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 5: Friday, celebrating, commemorating, remembering seventy nine years from the day 172 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 5: that the war came to Australia. I came from another country, 173 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 5: didn't know anything about it, and it's justifiable. We're not 174 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 5: taught in history of Darwins too far away from from 175 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 5: where I grew up in Greish. 176 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 4: But you've got Australians. 177 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 5: They have no idea about the bomy of Darwin, simply 178 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 5: because it was not taught in the history. It was 179 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 5: hidden by the public until recently. And I believe that 180 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 5: it has to be taught in history. It has to 181 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 5: become a natural day of commemoration rather than just in Darwin. 182 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 5: This is something that affected Australia. It changed the view 183 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 5: of Australia in the shape in the sphere of Asia. 184 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 5: We're not an island that nobody can invade. Actually an 185 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 5: island that we can invade. Even with the technology of 186 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 5: eighty years ago, you can imagine today what can happen. 187 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 5: So Darwin is the front line of defense for Australia. 188 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 4: We're happy to Darwin. He has to be remembered and lessons. 189 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 5: Learned from what we did to write that time and 190 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 5: make sure we don't make the same mistake. 191 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: Corn there's a message here. 192 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: There's one that's just come through and it says, I'm 193 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: cruising Mindle Beach and down high down to the Silent Club. 194 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: Plenty of empty wine casks littered around the place. I 195 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: know that this is something that we hear quite regularly. 196 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 4: Yes, and this is something that comes from cleans all 197 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 4: the time. 198 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 5: That's where the money go because I have to deploy 199 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 5: people to clean up the mess that other people live. 200 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 5: What really really angers me is people from other places 201 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 5: come here, don't respect the place where they are. This 202 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 5: is like a Kia country. This is not your country. 203 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 5: What do you leave the rabbits behind? But at the 204 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 5: same time, these people are beyond shaving. The only thing 205 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 5: that cares about the daily fixure of alcohol. And what 206 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 5: argues me too is the people that prove the one 207 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 5: second supply. 208 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,479 Speaker 4: I think the police. 209 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 5: Would throw the book at them, and I think we 210 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 5: should get some really tough measures. 211 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: Makes me really cross is that people are then obviously 212 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: you know, on selling this alcohol to people who are 213 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: already in a very vulnerable situation, which I just think 214 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: is terrible. Kate. 215 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 5: I know sometimes people are confused, they actually say, what 216 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 5: the count is not doing that one because simply we 217 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 5: can't do it when other police. We can't pour alcohol out, 218 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 5: we can't arrest people, we can't imprison people. But we 219 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 5: are patrolling out there. I've seen my seven o'clock in 220 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 5: the morning. I've been out and I see out its programmed. 221 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 5: People are out there talking to itinerance direct them to services. 222 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 4: But this is only a little bit we can do. 223 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 5: If we are going to stop the problem, we have 224 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 5: to actually get a heavy hand approach to both suppliers 225 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 5: and drinkers. 226 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: Contact scarlets. We are going to have to leave it. 227 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: They're always good to speak with you. Thanks so much 228 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: for coming in this morning. 229 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: It is my pleasure. 230 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 3: O kay, thank you