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Speaker 1: Jam Mission with Jones and Amanda Well.

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Speaker 2: Our next guest is the British writer, entrepreneur and designer

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Speaker 2: who comes from both British and Design Royalty. She also

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Speaker 2: happens to be my absolute style icon. She has a

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Speaker 2: new book that I just can't put down, called An

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Speaker 2: Entertaining Story. This has got lots of fabulous table scapes

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Speaker 2: and table settings and recipes and family anecdotes. And she's

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Speaker 2: with us now India Hicks, Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 1: How lovely to be with you.

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Speaker 3: I always feel that Amanda hogs you here India. I

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Speaker 3: can be into table scapes and table settings. Oh not

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Speaker 3: like I like a scented candle like the next man.

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Speaker 2: No, you're out of your league, Brendan step aside.

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Speaker 1: No, I No, I think there's definitely room for Brandon

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Speaker 1: in this conversation.

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Speaker 3: See, I like the cities. What's happened? And Amanda is

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Speaker 3: so jealous.

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Speaker 2: He's going to break us up.

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Speaker 3: India, he said to me before this interview, she said,

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Speaker 3: do not say anything to India, do not embarrass me,

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Speaker 3: don't say she's my friend.

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Speaker 1: I think there's definitely one for truth from here. Absolutely bad.

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Speaker 3: This is my fantasy.

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Speaker 2: Now, normally you're in the Bahamas, but at the moment

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Speaker 2: it's pandemic. You're based in Paris, you're only a train

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Speaker 2: ride away from your mum. What's the feeling in Paris?

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Speaker 2: What have you gone back into lockdown?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you've got it absolutely right. We did.

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Speaker 1: We did seven months at home on the island. And

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Speaker 1: the island remember it's half a mile wide and two

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Speaker 1: miles long, so it's trainy and it was it was

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Speaker 1: just an amazing chance to be at home with my

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Speaker 1: five kids. But they need to get back to school

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Speaker 1: and and so we had to leave the island. And

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Speaker 1: I did not feel comfortable having two of my younger

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Speaker 1: kids across in those other world and we have all

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Speaker 1: this gang on, so we decided to become with them.

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Speaker 1: And then David and I just thought, you know, what

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to actually try and have a bit of

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Speaker 1: an adventure. So we looked around and as well as

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Speaker 1: that many many cities have got lots of bacon departments

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Speaker 1: at the moment, and you're actually able to rent foot

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Speaker 1: sort of quite an inexpensive amount. And so we work

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Speaker 1: in Paris and it's been rather beautiful, but of course

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Speaker 1: for now in a lockdown here in Paris. London is

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Speaker 1: also in a lockdown, although I gather you in Australia

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Speaker 1: just coming out you're eating out of your lockdown, just

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Speaker 1: because Europe is going back into one. So it bonkers

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Speaker 1: around the world.

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Speaker 2: Oh it is. And that's what's interesting. I think about

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Speaker 2: the timing for your book, because I know that you've

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Speaker 2: said in the midst of all this, you felt a

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Speaker 2: strange putting out a beautiful book about entertaining, but at

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Speaker 2: the same time, we're all focused so much more about

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Speaker 2: eating at home and only seeing a couple of people

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Speaker 2: at a time, that this actually is the perfect time

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Speaker 2: for it.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right, and I feel strange in the

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Speaker 1: fact that there are a lot of very serious events

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Speaker 1: going on in the world. So when I talk about,

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Speaker 1: you know, i'ming a napkin and putting down a presentatives.

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Speaker 1: I feel strange about that, but I do recognize it exactly.

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Speaker 1: You just said. Everybody is back home, and during lockdown,

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Speaker 1: I realized with my family that if we were actually

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Speaker 1: going to sit together and make a really lovely evening meal,

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Speaker 1: we wanted to make the most of it. And so

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Speaker 1: actually I began to pay quite a lot of attention

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Speaker 1: to laying the table, to putting out my separation, to

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Speaker 1: having flowers, to lighting candles, and I remember for once

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Speaker 1: that was actually bothered into my family and not just

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Speaker 1: for friends and guests, And actually that became much more meaningful.

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Speaker 1: And my book an entertainment story, just as you said,

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Speaker 1: because there are hopefully quite a few entertaining stories in there.

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Speaker 1: It's not just about table setting. It's also about breast

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Speaker 1: in bed because your mama, or Christmas lunches or traditional

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Speaker 1: key pasties, or how to do a birthday, pay for

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Speaker 1: what's for dinner, or how to choot. I do an

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Speaker 1: awful lot of don't feel you have to do it

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Speaker 1: all yourself, do order it, don't try and make yourself

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Speaker 1: have to do it all. So there's not such different

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Speaker 1: into the book. It's not your average entertaining book. I'd

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Speaker 1: say that, no, that is so true.

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Speaker 2: And the life on the Island it looks idyllic, but

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Speaker 2: you're very honest about some of the hardships. Tell us

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Speaker 2: about your fridge.

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Speaker 1: For example, our fridge went through a rather strange chapter

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Speaker 1: of its life where it actually did give us electric

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Speaker 1: shocks every time I touched it. So we would have

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Speaker 1: this pair of foottops, just sticking a bunch, and everybody

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Speaker 1: knew you had to put on the fliptops before you

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Speaker 1: have the fridge. And even my tiny daughter at the time,

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Speaker 1: I put on the gigantic fliptops before she could touch

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Speaker 1: the fridge. Oh my god, that's funny. You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 3: Well, India, it's great to talk to you, and I've

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Speaker 3: learned so much. I even now decant my Kentucky Fried

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Speaker 3: chicken when I have people over into nice serving boles.

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Speaker 3: There you go, you you made an impact. An entertaining

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Speaker 3: story available online and in all good bookstores today. India Hicks,

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Speaker 3: thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Always lovely to speak first you sure,

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Speaker 1: With and Amanda