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Speaker 1: Here at two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge

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Speaker 1: the traditional owners of the land on which we record

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Speaker 1: this podcast. There were innerie people. This land was never seated,

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Speaker 1: always was always will be hi there and welcome to

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Speaker 1: do good sports. Sports needs told differently.

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Speaker 2: I'm Georgie Tunny and I'm Abby Jelmy, And my goodness,

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Speaker 2: has it been an overwhelming week of just feeling so

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Speaker 2: privileged that we get to do what we do and

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Speaker 2: your feedback on our last episode, Yeah, the term is overwhelming.

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Speaker 2: We were inundated with messages about how you'd felt the

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Speaker 2: same yep in the reaction to the GWS scandal, but

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Speaker 2: also just that women in sport need a voice.

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Speaker 1: George, Yes, yeah, And I think what hit me most,

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Speaker 1: Jelmy was all of the wonderful feedback from all of

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Speaker 1: the listeners, thank you for sending it in, But it

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Speaker 1: was the messages from our colleagues as well. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: all of the women who have fought like us so

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Speaker 1: hard and for so long to get a space at

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Speaker 1: the room. Who was saying thank you for voicing this

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Speaker 1: and speaking about it so eloquently, which is great for

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Speaker 1: us because I remember us recording that episode being very

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Speaker 1: highly charged and not quite sure what was coming out

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Speaker 2: That I also couldn't breathe.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there were layers to theas there were layers, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we shared some personal stories too, and to

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Speaker 2: have them received the way they were. Although I mean,

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Speaker 2: the headline that came out of my story was Channel

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Speaker 2: seven presenter in disgusting photo incident, which I just feel

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Speaker 2: paints me seven and a half months pregnant in a

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Speaker 1: So in my mind I see that, I see that

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Speaker 2: But we do. While we're on the topic of the giants,

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Speaker 2: we did want to have a correction because, as we

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Speaker 2: had both mentioned in the episode, but perhaps because of

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Speaker 2: what we should have. We both highly respect the Giants

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Speaker 2: as an institution and have had.

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Speaker 1: All of our dealings with them have always been positive.

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Speaker 2: And they have a lot of strong women in their

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Speaker 2: a very long time, and one of them reached out

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Speaker 2: just wanted to clarify that the club certainly didn't sit

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Speaker 2: idly by when these allegations were made, which is what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but pats on the back all round to everyone

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Speaker 1: The responses Jelmy has said was overwhelming, and therefore you

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Speaker 1: This is one of the only times I can remember

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Speaker 2: end for the Commonwealth Games. That's what we're discussing today.

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Speaker 1: Jell mey, our dear listeners may have been able to

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Speaker 1: hear my little cackles just as you were introducing this

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Speaker 2: Where are we Well, I'm going to wax lyrical and

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Speaker 2: take you on a different journey to start with, because George,

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Speaker 2: You know, Australia, the country that dropped the ball and

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Speaker 1: Well tell me because as you recall, I know, because

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Speaker 1: And he said that it was quote to quote him

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Speaker 1: Which is actually what I thought at the time. The

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Speaker 3: Heard it in twenty fourteen and it's coming back in

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Speaker 1: They weren't interested. The Victorian government wasn't interested in saving

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Speaker 2: Is that true? No?

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Speaker 5: We've released a significant amount of information. Plus the Order

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Speaker 3: You go to Glasgow.

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Speaker 1: Will you go to Glasgow in two years and watch it?

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Speaker 2: I doubt it?

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Speaker 5: No, Right, I'll be focused Tom on building more homes

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Speaker 2: Not going on holiday building houses, Tom, building houses, Tom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, moving right along, Tom.

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Speaker 2: Moving right along us. Because we've mentioned the ten sports

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Speaker 1: Scale down version of the Comonwalk games that will be

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Speaker 2: So they will take place from Thursday, the twenty third

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Speaker 1: That's actually terrifyingly not that far away.

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Speaker 2: He's not that far away at all. A total of

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking down the list. I don't seem to

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Speaker 2: No hockey, or diving, or road cycling or badmington or

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Speaker 1: Yeah, rugby sevens No rugby sevens.

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Speaker 1: Which I actually love. I will always fight for rhythmic gymnastic.

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Speaker 1: Huge, huge, so a lot a lot of big outs,

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Speaker 2: Do you know why we love the comm Games, Georgie.

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Speaker 2: We win, we win. We locked the floor with them,

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Speaker 2: Commonwealth Games, Georgie. Why I get emotional about it, and

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Speaker 1: No, And it's this is the thing about the Commonwealth

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Speaker 2: Apart, it's the friendly game. It is.

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Speaker 1: It's the Friendly Games. You see the power program integrated,

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Speaker 1: I was talking to Queen Lizellis last week, yes about

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Speaker 2: I just think in the global climate at the moment,

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Speaker 2: But once you remove something, it's very very hard to

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Speaker 1: It does, And I think you're right, Jemmy. Does this

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Speaker 1: then mean that there will be a time when we

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Speaker 1: I know you'll have World Champs, but it's not the same.

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Speaker 2: It's also the accessibility for mine. So if you wanted

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Speaker 2: to get to Paris, my goodness, bring your check book. Yes,

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Speaker 2: these are the best that we've ever seen in the world,

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Speaker 2: And again it's the feel good games. I just a

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Speaker 2: So not only does this bring into question the Commonwealth

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Speaker 1: You can't complain about Saudi shareholders taking over world sport

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Speaker 1: that's if that's it, because there are genuine questions to

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Speaker 1: be raised about it being a financial element. Those are genuine.

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Speaker 1: You know, Birmingham still struggling after it hosted a couple

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Speaker 1: wake of that.

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Speaker 2: In what was seen as a very successful games, it

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Speaker 1: What we're saying is we will always be advocating for

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Speaker 1: to be full time professional athletes are dwindling.

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Speaker 2: And do you know what makes me go, ah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's a direct quote, is all of this paves way

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Speaker 2: for the Enhanced Games. It's true, George, it is because

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Speaker 2: if you're getting one hundred thousand American dollars just to

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Speaker 2: qualify as an athlete, and they have a scaled down

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Speaker 2: programer think of only five sports, so it's going to

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Speaker 2: be a lot more viable to host.

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Speaker 1: The future is scary.

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Speaker 2: It is scary and potentially druggy. It's a real Genure's

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Speaker 2: another quote. But my thing, I love the Commonwealth Games.

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Speaker 2: They're the feel good games. I think the integration of

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Speaker 2: the power program is something that cannot be underestimated in

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Speaker 2: terms of its power of bringing us all together. And

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Speaker 2: when you watch Australians win, there's something about it that

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Speaker 2: feels really good. And we win a lot at the

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Speaker 2: Common Games. So don't take it from me us tell

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Speaker 2: me yes, okay us everyone, But twenty twenty six is

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Speaker 2: not too far away. We wait and see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and hey, they better be an Australian flag

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Speaker 1: put somewhere. We're paying for the Games after all.

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Speaker 2: Do you think there is another Commonwealth Games after Glasgow? Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm not so sure, Georgie. Yes, it's time for our

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Speaker 2: favorite segment, fun facts. Sometimes they just land in your lap.

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Speaker 2: One of our favorite fun facts there's a pineapple on

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Speaker 2: top of the Winwooden Trophy. It came to me while

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Speaker 2: I was watching Gold Like you win a Larry Emda

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Speaker 2: on the chase. I love the chase. Judge me accordingly. Yesterday,

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Speaker 2: my dear at the half was having a well earned

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Speaker 2: and he looked at the lid and said, aren't you

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Speaker 2: talking about the con Games this week? And I said, yes,

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Speaker 2: yes we are. And he goes, there's a fun fact

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Speaker 2: on my lid, and I went, this is a gift

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Speaker 2: from the beer gods. From the beer gods, so I

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Speaker 2: have brought in said lid.

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Speaker 1: She hasn't.

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Speaker 2: She's got to read to you a fact that it's

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Speaker 2: so fun. A beer company thought it was relevant to

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Speaker 2: put under a top. I do not even know anyway.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, here we go at the nineteen Oh no.

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Speaker 1: It's scrubbed off.

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Speaker 4: Oh fact, the fact has been compromised because it turns

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Speaker 4: out printing them on the bottom of a bottle cap

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Speaker 4: is not very.

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Speaker 2: I think it says at the nineteen sixty five games.

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Speaker 1: Question mark fact check fact.

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Speaker 2: At the nineteen sixty five Comnwealth Games, every single Aussie

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Speaker 2: diver won a medal.

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Speaker 1: Oh, shut up, that is fun.

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Speaker 2: Let's find out if it was the game in sixty five,

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Speaker 2: because it can also.

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Speaker 1: If we weren't even numbers, Sure.

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Speaker 2: That not every every I'm really trying.

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Speaker 1: You can hang on, now I have the bottle cap. Okay,

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six? Are you blind?

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Speaker 2: Apparently? Is it sixty six?

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Speaker 1: Sixty six?

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Speaker 2: Oh? There you go, Yeah, that makes sense. Sixty six

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Speaker 2: It would have to be even it's a games. Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, my two brain cells that are knocking around anyway,

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Speaker 2: Diving no longer a Commonwealth game sport. Oh but every

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Speaker 2: diver one.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy, that's mental. I wonder how many every diver

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Speaker 1: won a medal. We do always punch above our weight

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Speaker 1: in the diving exactly. Well, look look how fun that

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Speaker 1: fact was, and sadly no fun facts like that heading

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Speaker 1: into Glasgow possible.

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Speaker 2: I'm off to get my eyes.

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Speaker 1: I cannot begin to tell you, dear listeners, how easy

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Speaker 1: this was.

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Speaker 2: It is speckled. Okay, it's aged anyway. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: listening and helping me see with two Good Sports in

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Speaker 2: Sports News told me differently. Again. I know that we

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Speaker 2: said it off the top, but thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for the feedback and reaction to our last episode. We

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Speaker 2: it was really overwhelming and we're prepreciate it so much.

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Speaker 2: As always, you can follow us on Instagram at two

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Speaker 2: Good Sports Podcasts. We'll catch you next week, but until then, Georgie,

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Speaker 2: you be a good sport