1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Here at two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of the land on which we record 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: this podcast. There were innerie people. 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: This land was never seated, always was, always will. 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: Be higher and welcome to two Good Sports sports news 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: told differently. I'm Georgie Tunne. 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 3: And I'm Abby Jelmy and George. My goodness, isn't nice 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: to be back. We've already started with our ins and 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 3: outs of the season. 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: They went down well. 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: I think they went down really really well. Thank you 12 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: so much for all of your feedback. We have taken 13 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: some of it on board. 14 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: And by that we mean none because we stand by 15 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: all of our decisions for now. 16 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: For now, we have the right to change them at 17 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: any time. I would say we. 18 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 3: Did change our format for the opening episode because we 19 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: were our own good Sports and we were just sort 20 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: of catching everyone up on how we've been. But don't 21 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 3: you worry. Good sport and bad sport is in. So 22 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: George hit me good sport of bad sport this week. 23 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: I've got a bit of a combination of both of them. 24 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: Medi sport goldilocks just right. No, I'm calling it a 25 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: reformed sport. So I'm unsure if you know of or 26 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: if our dear listeners know the story of Ryan Peak. 27 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: So he is a former bikey. So at twenty one 28 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: years of age he was in a biking gang called 29 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: the Rebels look questionable history there did get convicted, served 30 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: five years in jail. While he was in jail, he 31 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: turned his life around because he started focusing on a 32 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: very particular thing golf. 33 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, golf. 34 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: Golf, and it completely turned his life around. He got 35 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: out of jail, started like actually training and putting in 36 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: loss of effort and this keiwi. He then won the 37 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: New Zealand Open only a few weeks ago and now 38 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: gets a direct path into the Open in Northern Ireland 39 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: in the middle of the year, so he can compete 40 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: against the best of the best of the best golfers. However, 41 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: because of his criminal history and his criminal. 42 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,919 Speaker 3: Record, so like, why do we keep giving these people 43 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: chances now? 44 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: But this is a reform sport, reform sport. So he 45 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: still has to have a few meetings I'm assuming with 46 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: certain customs agents and see if he can actually travel 47 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: to compete in the Open. But what a story, what 48 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: a story from jail to the Open? 49 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: The only rebels I want to talk about on this podcast. 50 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: Are the Melbourne kind. They can't. 51 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: They don't exist in union, they don't exist any are 52 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: the only rebels. 53 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 3: I don't I mean good on him. I don't know 54 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: anything about him. He might be a guy that got 55 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: caught up with the wrong crowd. 56 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: Exactly. What I love is that in his own words, 57 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: it's one hell of a story, one hell of a moment. Oh, 58 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: he's writing it. He's writing it. I know, I said, 59 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: sport docos around. 60 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: He's riding it. What a motorbike? I don't know. I 61 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: don't know mine. If that, if that wasn't a good 62 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: sport for you, this will be okay, ash Barty, well 63 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: of the goodest sport. 64 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 3: Even Barbie dolls. We love this Barbie have done some 65 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 3: amazing things. 66 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: Mattel. We are all about you. Remember the Mary Fowler doll? 67 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: I do, I do. 68 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: We loved the hair world. 69 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: Now, someone who I'm sure never had being a Barbie 70 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: on her vision board, yeah, ash Bardy, ash. 71 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: Bardy, Yeah, but it makes so much the Bardi Barbie 72 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: come on. 73 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: The Bardi Barbie party. 74 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: Don't say that quickly, but she said, Never in my 75 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: wildest dreams did I think I'd be a Barbie myself. Well, 76 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: no shit, it's just an incredible experience to be a 77 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: part of. And PAUI said, when I first heard about it, 78 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 3: I thought it was so cool because it just came 79 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: out of the blue. I wasn't expecting anything. It's amazing. 80 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: I just can't believe it happened. 81 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: Do you know what? 82 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: My because I've seen these Barbie dolls, and my only 83 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: note to Mattel is that I would have loved to 84 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: see Evon in her playing gear back in the day, 85 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: because I think what they've gone for is what she 86 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: was wearing when she one of the times she presented 87 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: Ash with his trophy. Yeah, I wanted to see her 88 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: in her full aletic prime. Yeah, prow West like her prime. 89 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: That's what I would have loved to have seen. Still 90 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: an amazing, amazing concept and definitely the good of sports 91 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: there in Yvonne and Ash. But yeah, that was a 92 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: one I thought missed opportunity. Or as someone did point 93 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: out to me, she's a doll. You could change her clothes, 94 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, and I could just like I could maybe 95 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: do that. I was like, Okay, maybe that's what it is. 96 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: They're thinking. You can buy in multiple outfits. 97 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: I get it. 98 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 3: I don't know for these limited edition options that they 99 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: can it be bringing out outfit changes for on I 100 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: just don't. 101 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: Know potential potential Mattel call us. 102 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 2: Call us on our vision board. I'll give you ab 103 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 2: hot tip. 104 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: Imagine that Ash Barty never in my wildest dreams, Young 105 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: Jelmy and George, you know. 106 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: What it'd be. 107 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: We mentioned, of course, the fact that Mary Fowler has 108 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 3: been a Barbie Doll. Yes, and that weaves beautifully into 109 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: our topic this week because the Matilda's found themselves in 110 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: headlines a lot of throughout the last months that were 111 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 3: we don't want to get into people, I think know 112 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: how we feel about criticism of women's sport that is 113 00:04:59,000 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: blatantly sexist. 114 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: We don't need it. 115 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 3: We're moving on from it, and what we do want 116 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: to provide though, is critical analysis of women's sport. We've 117 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: got one of the great brains of women's sport in Australia, 118 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 3: in ev Owens, coming on to take us a talk 119 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: through about what's happening with the Matildas. 120 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: Yes, what is going on because as you and I 121 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: Jelmy have said very publicly, most recently, the Matildas aren't 122 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: above criticism. No, they're above disrespect, so we don't want 123 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: that in any way, shape or form. But something is 124 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: not right with our favorite team. 125 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: And we are on what feels like the eve of 126 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: an Asian Cup. Yeah, without a long term coach and 127 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: just without the recent success that we'd hope for for 128 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: our favorite Tillies. 129 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: So let's find out what's going to happen. Nev Owens 130 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: is coming up next. 131 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: There has been a lot of commentary surrounding them Tilda's 132 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: for a lot of this year, a lot of the 133 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: end of last year. Some of it warranted, some of 134 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: it most definitely not and a throwback to a time 135 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: that we had hoped did not exist anymore. We're not 136 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: going to focus on that though. What we are going 137 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: to focus on is what is going on with everyone's 138 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: favorite team. What is happening to the Matildas. 139 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: And it is a big question because we are on 140 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: what feels like the eve of an Asian Cup, and 141 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 3: how often we get to see this side come together 142 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 3: because a lot of them, of course have club duty 143 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: and international duty. It feels like it's sneaking up and 144 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: we are still no closer to the answer of who's 145 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: going to be coaching our beloved tillies and what should 146 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 3: our expectations be and perhaps what is the change that 147 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 3: we need to see to this super experienced side that 148 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 3: we all fell in love with at the World Cup. 149 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 3: If you weren't already on board, we're now all on board. 150 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: We're merched up. But what do we need to see happen? 151 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: Because they are underperforming and someone who never underperforms, no never, 152 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: who's joining us an expert commentator. You would have seen 153 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: her across of course SBS as well as. 154 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: Now ten Now ten. 155 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: She is the football commentator, the expert with the mostest. 156 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: She's also in my phone as Nestar BFF awesome legends. 157 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: It is Nevo and woo woe an introduction. Oh my god, Nevo, 158 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: welcome back to two Good Sports. You've also filled in 159 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: on this podcast a lot of times, so our listeners 160 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: would be so so familiar with you. Firstly, how you're feeling. 161 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: Look, I'm I'm all right. I'm just trying to fit 162 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 4: in with the footballers. So I did my ACL you know, 163 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 4: pre season January window and I'm three weeks postop now, 164 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 4: so I feel like that whole exposee about what ACL 165 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 4: recovery actually looks like it's going to be out, you know, 166 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 4: any day now. And do you know what it's going 167 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 4: to It's going to contain a few expleted. 168 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you go the I mean I've always said it, 169 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: you go the extra miles. 170 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: She's a messagic coverage. 171 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, she is a method journalist, so you best believe 172 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: that when those reports are coming out. Nevo speaking from 173 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: the Hut. 174 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 4: And now I've now decided I can diagnose that everyone 175 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 4: on the sideline as well. Like any player comes off 176 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 4: the field, I watched them come off and I'm like, oh, 177 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: you come down to me. Boys, I've got this. I 178 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 4: don't need to ask a physio what's wrong. I've looked, 179 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 4: I've seen the response. You come down to me. 180 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: I'm ready now, Nivo. 181 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: Usually when you have a guest on, you try to 182 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: hit them with a warm question to start with, or 183 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: something that's a little bit lighter. Most unfortunately, there doesn't 184 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 3: seem to be any light news or angles around the 185 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: Matilda's and their performances at the moment, most recently off 186 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: the she believes carp and it has to be said 187 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 3: that four nil match against Japan was one of the 188 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 3: most difficult games of sport I've ever watched. We had 189 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 3: one shot at goal that wasn't on target for a 190 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 3: whole game of football, and we were just technically outclassed. Yes, 191 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 3: is that an outlier, Nevo Or Is this where the 192 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: team's at at the moment? 193 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 4: I think that's where the team's at at the moment, 194 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 4: and I think there's a combination of reasons for that. 195 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 4: Right It's felt even more disappointing considering the fact we 196 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 4: are twelve months out from the Asian Cup and we 197 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 4: see Japan as one of those key oppositions, the defending 198 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 4: champs that we'll have to take on as near on 199 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 4: home soil in order to lift that trophy, which is 200 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 4: a really coveted trophy, especially because we're hosting the tournament 201 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 4: here in Australia. But I think there's a combination of 202 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 4: reasons why that tournament itself went so terribly in the US, 203 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 4: and it did. 204 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: Go really terribly Hei Neevo, because we lost everything, didn't we? 205 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? We did. 206 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, we lost all three games. We even lost the 207 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 4: last one to Columbia, which we kind of hoped maybe 208 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 4: that was going to be you know, we wouldn't get 209 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 4: something out of the tournament in that final class. But 210 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 4: it wasn't the tournament itself. Wasn't it the right kind 211 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 4: of time for the window for the Matilda's. Okay, it 212 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 4: was three games, maybe a two game window would have 213 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: been better. There was travel between each game and we 214 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 4: know this is a team that already travels has more 215 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 4: air miles than any other international team in the world. 216 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 4: And even within the side, some players were coming in 217 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 4: on really heavy workload. Some are coming in in pre season, 218 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 4: like Mackenzie Arnold who had hardly any minutes under a belt. 219 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 4: So on the field it was a really tough balance 220 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 4: for Tommy Somani as the interim coach. But off the field, 221 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: I think that's where the main issues lie at the 222 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 4: moment and the main reason for the fact that by 223 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 4: all reports it really wasn't a very happy dressing room 224 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 4: throughout the She Believes Cup for tom Somani, hugely respected 225 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 4: by the group, still there in an interim capacity, which 226 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 4: leaves him pretty handstrung and look at leaves the girls 227 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 4: in a bit of limbo as well. There's also rumblings 228 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 4: about a disagreement between the players in Football Australia. They've 229 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 4: got this new CBA in play certain deals around that CBA. 230 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 4: It's a new agreement that parties themselves are still figuring 231 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: things out as they go. I just hope that as 232 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 4: they continue to figure that out, they can do it 233 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 4: together by talking and that things don't escalate from here. 234 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 4: But I think ultimately that whole picture meant that the 235 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 4: She Believes Cup was never going to be the successful 236 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 4: kind of tournament that we wanted to see twelve months 237 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 4: out from the Asian. 238 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 3: Cup, and it is difficult to head into a tournament 239 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 3: when there is so much noise around. And of course 240 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: there was the debate about whether Sam Kerr should still 241 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: be captain that was raging back here in Australia, and 242 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: we had former Matilda at least Keller Knight allude to 243 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: the fact that there's been a pay dispute. 244 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: As you said, there's some disagreeance. 245 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: With Football Australia. 246 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 2: Was this the. 247 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 3: Idea nevo that they were promised a certain amount or 248 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: it was so far less than what they'd previously been paid. 249 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: Was that the disconnect. 250 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 4: I think the disconnect in this case is probably drilling 251 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 4: down to kind of one part of the deal in particular, 252 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 4: and it's a conversation that will be ongoing between the Players' 253 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 4: Union and Football Australia. So yeah, I think I mean 254 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 4: KK would have a brilliant insight into what's going in 255 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: within the team. She's also involved with the Players' Union 256 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: as well. It's a conversation that is definitely ongoing and 257 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 4: I think it probably goes beyond just the monetary side 258 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 4: of things, and there are some big trust issues thrown 259 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 4: in there as well, and I think it's really important 260 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 4: obviously that the federation and this side, that the Federation 261 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 4: is supported to grow into the incredible team that they 262 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 4: are and as you guys said off the top, you know, 263 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: one of the most loved sporting teams in the country. 264 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 4: You just want that relationship between the Federation and the 265 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 4: Madildas to be a really strong one. And I think 266 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 4: right now it's not. 267 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: I think that you've hit the nail on the head then, Evo, 268 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: because we love this team so much and it's an 269 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: entire country that loves them, not just like football fans 270 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: or soccer fans. 271 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 3: Which has never been more apparent given recent headlines and 272 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 3: the movement to support the Matilda's exactly exactly. 273 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: So when you say, Nevo, things like an unhappy dressing 274 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: room alarm bells are going off in my head because 275 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: you know these players so well, you know kind of 276 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: their mannerisms, and if they're enjoying their football or if 277 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: they're not, I mean, how do we turn it around. 278 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 4: I think having that new head coach in charge will 279 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 4: be a really big part of that, building that bridge 280 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 4: between you know, the organization and the team and having 281 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 4: a really clear direction moving forward. So I think who 282 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 4: that head coach be is a super important one to 283 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 4: get that right. And we need that head coach to 284 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 4: take the whole pathways program, the whole pyramid, if you like, 285 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 4: under their wing and look at this as one part 286 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 4: of the whole Japan for example, and we've seen the 287 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: kind of football they played at the She Believes Cup. 288 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: They have a one hundred year plan in place, and 289 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 4: they're about a quarter of the way into that one 290 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 4: hundred year plan, and they have things like a national 291 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 4: setup from under fourteens, under fifteenth, under sixteenth, under seventeens, 292 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 4: I go on all the way through to the national team. 293 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 4: They're really clear on their strategy, they're clear on the 294 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 4: their ideology, and it's all part of one system that 295 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 4: is pushing in the same direction. 296 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: I just see Japan having one hundred year plan in 297 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 3: Australia being Phoebean friends when she's like, we don't have 298 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: a plan the beginning of a plane and they've got 299 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 3: a century of success that's mapped out for them. 300 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: That doesn't make for good pries. 301 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: We saw that as well with like the success of 302 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: Spain at the most recent World Cup, right like that 303 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: was because of all of their junior development programs and 304 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: we could see that in full effect. 305 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: They had disarray, yes, totally. 306 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 4: But conversely then we also saw that even within a 307 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 4: camp itself that was at odds with the coach and 308 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 4: the coach putting it lightly, players were able to come 309 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 4: together and you know, play some really beautiful football and search, 310 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 4: like strive for that goal that they were searching for 311 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 4: as a team, and they were still able to do it. 312 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 4: So look, forget everything. I just said, We're going to 313 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 4: be fine because Bain showed us it can still be done. 314 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: But nevo, if we're calling out and eating stability and 315 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: change and to know who that head coach is, but 316 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: why is it taking so long? 317 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 4: It's a million dollar question. Ads. I think there's been 318 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 4: a lot of talk around Joe Montemurro, for example. He's 319 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 4: an Australian coach and Australian footballer. He's currently in charge 320 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 4: of one of the best women's teams in the world 321 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 4: in Lyon. That's where Ellie Carpenter plays her football in France, 322 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 4: and Joe's been in Europe for the last seven years 323 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 4: or so. He's a former Neuve coach. He won titles 324 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 4: at Arsenal in the WSL. He is a really strong option. 325 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 4: He is currently what you know, halfway through if you like. 326 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 4: At the end of this season, he'll be halfway through 327 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 4: a two year contract with Lyon. So maybe, and this 328 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: is complete conjecture on my part, maybe they're waiting for 329 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 4: the end of that first season of his contract, the 330 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 4: end of the Champions League, which would be you know, 331 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 4: late May, and maybe then Football Australia and Olympic Leona 332 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 4: can come to some kind of an agreement for them 333 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 4: to part ways and Joe to come home, and that 334 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 4: could be a reason for the delay. There are other 335 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 4: options as well. Tanya Oxtorby, for example, she's the current 336 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 4: coach of Northern Ireland. She's a former assistant coach of Chelsea. 337 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 4: Another really beautiful human. She's doing a really great job 338 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: with Northern Ireland at the moment. They missed out on 339 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 4: qualifying for the Women's Euros this year but got to 340 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 4: the playoff stage. I think they're probably two of the 341 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 4: strongest options that we have available. Katy Stoney is a 342 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 4: coach that I love, but she's just signed with the 343 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 4: Canadian women's national team, so she's no longer an option 344 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 4: that's on the table. So maybe it is a question 345 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: of contracts that are already in place, waiting for those 346 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 4: contracts to get to a certain point where perhaps they 347 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 4: can be bought out. I mean Joe Montemiro, if he 348 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 4: is the target, he was available pre Olympics last year, 349 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 4: coaching that I think could definitely be an accusation that's 350 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 4: leveled at them. You know, there were rumors at Tony 351 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 4: Aten was looking at other options for himself overseas that 352 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 4: he wanted out of the end of his contract. There 353 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 4: were other coaches who were available at that time. Maybe 354 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 4: maybe we moved too slowly in that moment and now 355 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 4: we're paying the price of that and having to wait. 356 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 4: If indeed Joe is the preferred candidate for a time 357 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 4: that suits him and suits the club that he signed with. 358 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: And that we don't have to bring out the checkbook 359 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 3: to pay him out of a current contract. 360 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: Yes. 361 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, two things that we love on this podcast Nevo 362 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: number one when people are described as beautiful humans. Yes, 363 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: like you did about that already. I'm like, wow, we 364 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: should write we should get her. 365 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 4: She sounds the same thing about Joe Montemiroz agree. Both 366 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 4: Joe and Tanya were part of the Opti Sport commentary 367 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 4: team for the Women's World Cup last year and it 368 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 4: was such a joy working with them. Both their insights 369 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 4: into the game, the way they sowed a game and 370 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 4: described it. Just sitting with them and watching game of 371 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 4: football was a joy. Look, I'm happy to jump on 372 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 4: the bandwagon for either of them. I'm sure there are 373 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 4: other incredible coaches in Europe that don't have that Ossie 374 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: passport and so perhaps we from outside of the box 375 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 4: aren't looking at as closely. For example, I think international 376 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 4: coaching experience has always been a real focus for Football 377 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: Australia and Joe Montemuro doesn't have that international coaching experience. 378 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 4: He's coached PLUB teams and he's done it throughout Europe 379 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 4: at some of the biggest clubs in Europe, but he 380 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 4: hasn't coached the national side before. 381 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: He also that he has that rapport with the players 382 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: because Nevo. I think back to you and I covering 383 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: when it was then known the W League as sideline 384 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: commentators and hosts, and Joe Montemuro correct me if I'm wrong, 385 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure he was the coach of Melbourne 386 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: Victory for a whole lot of time when I was 387 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: at least there, and so him and Steph Catley know 388 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: each other very very well. And the other thing I 389 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: was going to say never on this podcast that we 390 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: love so we love people being described as beautiful humans. 391 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: We also love so I am upset with best chat 392 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: and I love that you've taken us through all of this. 393 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: One thing I would love for you, if you feel 394 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: en up to it, to speculate a little bit further 395 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: on what is happening with Samantha Kerr, Everyone's favorite Matilda's player. 396 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: When is she going to come back? Is she ever 397 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: going to come back after this ACL injury? And if 398 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: she does come back, will she be wearing the captain's armband. 399 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 4: I think she is definitely going to come back, Absolutely 400 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 4: she is, and yes, it is taking longer than any 401 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 4: of us would have hoped, and certainly I'm sure than 402 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 4: she would have hoped. We've heard a little bit from 403 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 4: Chelsea in the last couple of months. We know that 404 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 4: there's been some complications with her recovery, so we know 405 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 4: those lays has taken place. Chelsea have said they're expecting 406 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 4: a late said maybe March return in the WSL. We 407 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 4: know she was back kicking a ball in January, which 408 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 4: feels like a big win. Back training with the team 409 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 4: in February, and we're seeing some of her teammates post 410 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 4: sup acute pictures of how soaps they are to have 411 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 4: her back in the setup. I think also, she's thirty one. 412 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 4: As her second ACL, she has had a whole heap 413 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 4: on her plate in the last twelve months, so taking 414 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 4: the time that she needs to be in the right 415 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 4: place to make that comeback is super important as well. 416 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 4: From a captaincy perspective, George, I reckon that comes down 417 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 4: to who the new coach is. Ultimately, that is a 418 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 4: decision that that new coach will make. I think Steph 419 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 4: Catley has done a very good job in her absence. 420 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 4: I don't mind the idea just me personally as a punker. 421 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 4: I don't mind the idea as a fan of your striker, 422 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 4: the most important player in your team in terms of 423 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 4: scoring those goals. Actually just being able to firmly focus 424 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 4: on banging the ball into the back of the net 425 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 4: and leave the captaincy to someone further down the park, 426 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 4: you know, holding midfield as traditionally make great captains, maybe 427 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 4: a defender and let Sammy focus on scoring goal after 428 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 4: goal for her national I don't mind that. But ultimately 429 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 4: that's going to be decision that the new coach comes 430 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 4: in and the new coach will make and when Sam returns, 431 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 4: I really hope the new coach is there so in 432 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 4: you know, a nice clear way that decision can become 433 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 4: to as a team, as a leadership group, and they 434 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 4: can announce it together. 435 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 3: I think clarity is certainly what fans are looking for, 436 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 3: and the fact that Football Australia have come out time 437 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 3: and time again saying they're going to back Sam. It's 438 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 3: also what does Sam want given what she's been through? 439 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: Is the captain see something that she even wants when 440 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 3: she wants to? Just like I agree with you entirely, Nevo. 441 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 3: Just Steph Catley's an amazing job. Let Sam Kerr focus 442 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: on being Sam Kerr. But she's not the fix all. 443 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 3: She's obviously one of the greatest women's players that we've 444 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 3: ever seen in football, but her returning to the side 445 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: isn't going to fix the Connider magic. 446 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 2: Sal No, it's certainly not. 447 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 3: I guess the final question for you, Nevo, are we 448 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 3: going to see a changing of the guard of some 449 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 3: of these names and faces that we've loved before the 450 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 3: Asian Cup? Or is the Asian Cup going to be 451 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: our chance potentially to fare well a few of these 452 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: players in what needs to be a bit of a 453 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 3: changing of the guard. 454 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 4: I think I see the Asian Cup as exactly that 455 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 4: ads that chance to farewell a number of the players 456 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 4: who have become household names over the last decade in Australia. 457 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 4: I think for a number of those older players, that 458 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 4: will be the last major tournament that we see them play, 459 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 4: and then we'll see that ushering in of the new 460 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 4: generation that Emma Hayes in the US is currently doing 461 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: and doing with huge success. Even though Japan won that 462 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 4: she believes Cup. It's been incredible the way that she 463 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 4: is moving those pieces on the chess board and still 464 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 4: finding ways to make that team successful throughout that transitions. 465 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 4: I think that is a really cool kind of prototype. Obviously, 466 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 4: the depth that they have in the US and the 467 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 4: structures they have over there are very different to what 468 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 4: we have here. But yeah, I think that changing of 469 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 4: the guard is coming. I think perhaps we will see 470 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 4: one or two older players drop out pre this Asian 471 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 4: Cup when the new coach comes in. But the length 472 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 4: of time that new coach has to work with the 473 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 4: team will really determine how much change they can make. 474 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 4: If they get two international windows with the team pre 475 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 4: Asian Cup, how many wholesale changes can you genuinely make 476 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 4: in that time or do you have to go? Do 477 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 4: you know what? These are the cards I'm dealt. I've 478 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 4: got to get the most i can out of these 479 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 4: cards because of the time frame I'm working within. But yeah, 480 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 4: I think that Asian Cup will probably be a last 481 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 4: major tournament for some of those players that we have 482 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 4: very genuinely grown to love and feel so fond of 483 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 4: over a decade long period where they've all played such 484 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 4: a huge part in the growth of this team. 485 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: Oh nevo, I mean, I answer to Mary Fowler, such 486 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: as my single white female obsession with her. So you 487 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: are one hundred right there and that is how you 488 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: do it fair critical analysis of women in sport, Neva Owens, 489 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: you are a superstar. Thank you again for joining us 490 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: on Two Good Sports before you go, very pertinent question, 491 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: because it's not just football that you love. You also 492 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: obviously die hard legie. Why will the Brisbane Broncos win 493 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: the premiership in four? 494 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,239 Speaker 2: It's breaking up. 495 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 4: I've already looked, George, and you just won't surprise you 496 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 4: at when the Broncos play the nights. Yeah, season it's 497 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 4: in you. You need to come to Chew on the road. 498 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: Oh, Neva will see you in Newcastle. Thank you so much. 499 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: And a reminders she believes in what it better be 500 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 3: critical analysis. 501 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: That is what we believe in at Two Good Sports. 502 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 3: Nevo. 503 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: It's always a. 504 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: Pleasure and of course we'll speak to you throughout the season. 505 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your time and rest up. 506 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 4: Love chatting with you. Both speak soon. 507 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: Oh we love Nevo. 508 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: I tell you what, John, I always feel smarter after 509 00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: talking to that woman. 510 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 2: I was just dum and that I need to learn more, 511 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: but she's. 512 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: Led a details, you know what I mean. I'm like, oh, oh, 513 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: thank goodness, she's imparted her wisdom. She is using that 514 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: gigantic brain for good. What a segwe because I am 515 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: going to use my gigantic brain. 516 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 2: The mind palace, as you like to call it, my mind. 517 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: Palace, my mind palace. And I've gone down a couple 518 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: of staircases, I've rooted around in the dungeon, and I'm 519 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: in a drawer. Now what I have found is this 520 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: lovely fun fact. 521 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: I'm ready. Are you ready with that intro? Absolutely? 522 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: So tell me. You know, we've not met a tennis 523 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: tournament that we've not liked, Let's be honest. And part 524 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: of that you may not have actually wondered this before. 525 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: I hadn't before I'd found this fun fact. But there's 526 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: a lot of tennis balls that are used in a 527 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: tournament correct correct, correct? What happens to them when the 528 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: tournament ends? Where do they go? Well? I have the answer, 529 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: the mind palaces face. 530 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: This is already a sensational fact. 531 00:25:53,840 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: So apparently Wimbledon so obviously one of the biggest slams 532 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: that exists. They donate fifty five thousand tennis balls to 533 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: make cozy homes for mice to keep them safe from 534 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: the rain. Such a vistaal reaction from you, and it's 535 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: everything I've ever wanted. Listener, Jellmy has thrown herself from 536 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: her chair and hit her elbow on the way out. Yes, 537 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: they don't. 538 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: Look at this photo. 539 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Listener for you, I am showing jel 540 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: me a photo of three mice, gorgeous little mice trapped inside. 541 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 2: That's not the visual. I had tiny green little houses. 542 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: But all they've done is cut a hole in the ball. 543 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's adorable because. 544 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: Tennis balls hollow, obviously, and they've cut little holes in them, 545 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: and then they put them on little spikes in different 546 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: farmland or wherever. They're like the mice need house. 547 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 2: Yess, that is adorable. 548 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: Fifty five thousand just from Wimbledon. So if we all 549 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: did this, I mean, do we need another mice play? 550 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but here's a way that you could 551 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: just save the cute little critics. 552 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 3: I was thinking, like for people, for people, and like 553 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 3: somehow we're using it in the walls of homes. 554 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be good. I have also seen that 555 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: people do repurpose them as furniture for actual humans too, 556 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: So houses for mice and furniture for people. You're welcome, 557 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: You are welcome. 558 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: That is what we're looking for here on Two Good Sports. 559 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: That is a fun. 560 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 3: We will provide the images online because they're very cute. 561 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: But it's also making. 562 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 3: Me like now scared of every tennis ball that I 563 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 3: have lining around in the backyard. 564 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 2: It might be like someone. 565 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: Mouusis, yeah, yeah, they've recognized that's where they live. Now. 566 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 3: Sensational from you, George, But what an episode has been. Again, 567 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 3: thank you Denied for joining us and what we love. 568 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 3: Critical analysis of women's sport. That's what you'll find here. 569 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Two Good Sports. This has 570 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: been an iHeart production. We'll catch you next week. But 571 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: until there be a good sport. 572 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 4: The classical f