1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: So you alluded that we're going to the blood zones 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: I've got. Well, that's what I like to call it, 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: because we've got the Kleenex here for you. And do 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: you want to put on when don't? Don't? Don't? Oh, 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: I don't. Well, this just gets it out of your sister. No. Well, 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: if my sons were listening to this, they'll be horrified. 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: But I listened. I read a piece that Mere Friedman 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: wrote a couple of weeks ago, and it's she has 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: you know how I've spoken recently about when Liam turned 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: eighteen and how the rush for motion I had. Oh, 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: can you turn the music off? It's not going to 12 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: help me turn it off? Thanks you. I started the 13 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: blo started talking about how it feel my own fingernails 14 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 1: back as I talked, okay, breathe, and she just articulated 15 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: so brilliantly what it's like to be a mom of 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: a of a boy who grows up to be a man. 17 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: And I'll just read you some of it if I can, 18 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: if I can get through it, she said, being the 19 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: mother of a son is like someone breaking up with 20 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: you very slowly, because she had recently seen a movie 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: called Otherhood and that's where those movies are from. When 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: she said the movie is supposed to be about boys 23 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: growing up, moving out of home, and it's supposed to 24 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: be a comedy, but she said it examines what it 25 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: means to be a mother of a son who's no 26 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: longer a boy, no longer your boy, but a man. 27 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: And when she spoke about it recently and Mama mia 28 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: out loud, look at you. You're getting You've got boys too, Yeah, 29 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: you've got two boys. She said that there were audible 30 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: gasps of recognition and yelps of pain in the room. 31 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: And she spoke about this, and she said that if 32 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: our boys will grow up and grow away and break 33 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: up with us, and if they do, oh god, this 34 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: is a heart. If they do, we've done our job correctly, 35 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: and we have. That's what you want your kids to be, 36 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: to be, to grow up and leave you. That's what 37 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: our job is. But it's so hard. And she said 38 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: here that there are many crazy things about being a parent, 39 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: and one that definitely wasn't in the brochure is the 40 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: way you don't actually parent one person or one child. 41 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: Your parents very differently have a newborn, a baby, a toddler, 42 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: a preschool schooler, a primary age kid, a preteen, an adolescent, 43 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: a full blown teen, a young adult, and then an adult. 44 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: And they all answer to the same name, and they 45 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: all call you mom. And you never notice. I can't 46 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: even read it on Braith. You never notice the inflection 47 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: point where one morphs into the next. You never get 48 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: to now I've got a snot okay, this happens as well, 49 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: She says. You never get to properly say goodbye to 50 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: all the little people who grow up, because you don't 51 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: notice the growing and the changing. Except when Facebook sends 52 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: you those bloody memory reminders that make me cry, she said, 53 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: because it's like showing me the face of someone I 54 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: could never see you again. No, and she says, she's 55 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: crying as she writes it, And she knows that it's indulgent, 56 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: and she knows it's almost insensitive, because if you've experienced 57 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: the loss of a child, they would give anything to 58 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: feel this exquisite pain of missing a healthy child. And 59 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: she says, while I know they love us, their lives 60 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: no longer spin around us, they don't no longer have 61 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: their mother as their main access. We are not the 62 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: sun around which they spin. It'd be very weird if 63 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: it were, she said, And I know that logically. And 64 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: she goes on to say how great it is to 65 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: have tall people in the house. It can get down 66 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: things from talk cupboards, and she says, it's an ongoing 67 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: wonder to me that I grew one of my best 68 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: friends in the world, one of the best men I 69 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: know in my own body. And I just thought that 70 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: just sums up exactly how it is to have a job. 71 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm thinking a lot about this. How you bet you 72 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: you know how to physically love a little baby, but 73 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 1: when they're taller than you and their giant units, how 74 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: you can express your love for them as you watch 75 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: them go? And it makes me miss my own mum 76 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: because she she graciously let me leave home and I 77 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: never said thank you, and she's not here anymore. So 78 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: I thought, just me and nailed that absolutely. And I'm sorry, 79 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: I've beloved. I just wanted to say, isn't this a 80 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: great piece of writing? Are you're all smoke? It's just 81 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: smoke on the sardines. Alright, let's all take a deep breath, 82 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: all right. And if I've made you cry this morning, 83 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but it's you know, Okay, take a deep breath, 84 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: and let's move on. Catch Jonesy and Amanda's podcast on 85 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app w s f M