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Speaker 3: It's tech Time with Flex and Frooms on cater.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're about to get it.
Speaker 2: While we've been dedicating the majority of our time to
Speaker 2: TikTok and Instagram and other social media platforms, there's one
Speaker 2: that stood the test of time that I think we
Speaker 2: might have overlooked. That search engine is Pinterest. I know
Speaker 2: what you're thinking, it's for crafty mums and people planning weddings,
Speaker 2: but I promise it's perfect for a special third thing.
Speaker 2: So I don't think people understand what sets TikTok apart
Speaker 2: from Instagram. What makes it slightly different is it's not
Speaker 2: just a social media app. It doesn't exist to connect
Speaker 2: you to people that you know or broaden your networks
Speaker 2: by one or two degrees.
Speaker 4: It aimst introduce.
Speaker 2: You to things that you have not encountered before by
Speaker 2: aggregating information from the Internet and serving it to you
Speaker 2: based on your metadata and stuff like that, so you
Speaker 2: can search things in TikTok, like, you can't search things
Speaker 2: in Instagram, but pinterest did it first, and pintest has
Speaker 2: been doing it for ages. People claim to like it
Speaker 2: because there's no extra pressure on building like a persona
Speaker 2: or likes or anything. All you do there is curate
Speaker 2: your own social utopia. You look at little pictures of
Speaker 2: things that you like, and then you put those pictures
Speaker 2: and folders and you look at them.
Speaker 4: And that's what every platform is anyway.
Speaker 1: True looking at your own Instagram.
Speaker 4: No looking at other people's stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh that's true.
Speaker 2: So pinterest just you, you know, it uses all of
Speaker 2: your little metadata. It sees what you like, and there's
Speaker 2: this regenerating feed that just shows you cool new stuff
Speaker 2: based on other cool stuff you looked at before.
Speaker 4: It's great.
Speaker 1: Okay, Pinterest, Baddy, Are you getting paid for this?
Speaker 4: No, not at all.
Speaker 1: You should be pretty sure they've got a budget.
Speaker 4: What would you know about it?
Speaker 2: You're not an influencer. Price, but tell me about influencing.
Speaker 2: Stay in your lane.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: So I started using Pinterest to figure out what to
Speaker 5: do with my book cover amazing, and it hits differently.
Speaker 5: I'm in a little pink section and suddenly I'm getting
Speaker 5: you know, what's it called inspiration for days? I do
Speaker 5: think some people are better at Pinterests than others.
Speaker 4: Like with all platforms though.
Speaker 5: You my bestie Madison both just understand design and stuff,
Speaker 5: and so I would go on her Pinterest and.
Speaker 1: Be like, Damn, I'm dabbling, but I haven't done I
Speaker 1: don't do.
Speaker 5: Enough research to have breadth of creativity visually.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that might be the floor with
Speaker 2: every platform. I know a lot of people who didn't
Speaker 2: get onto Twitter, so it's because they didn't know how
Speaker 2: to curate their fee to see tweets they wanted to like. Similarly,
Speaker 2: similarly with threads, Instagram, TikTok TikTok, I think is the
Speaker 2: only one that you can get away with no curation,
Speaker 2: have a really good time. Yeah, they've nailed it.
Speaker 1: An ex and frooms on Kaya.
Speaker 2: This time five maybe ten years ago, buying a copied
Speaker 2: or counterfeit item was fau par. It was frowned upon.
Speaker 2: It wasn't something you admitted to publicly, and even something
Speaker 2: you might deny if you were questioned on it. But
Speaker 2: apparently gen Z is changing the way people perceive duped items.
Speaker 2: So I was reading this article on CNBC that I
Speaker 2: was really intrigued by.
Speaker 4: First.
Speaker 2: It started out with talking about the difference between jupes
Speaker 2: and counterfeits. Soupes short for duplicates are just cheaper alternatives
Speaker 2: to premium or luxury products.
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was short for duplicates. I just
Speaker 1: thought it was a made up work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Whereas counterfeit is when someone is making an exact
Speaker 2: replica as something else with lower quality items and trying
Speaker 2: to sell it to you as if it's real, so
Speaker 2: it carries an unauthorized trademark or logo of a patentent brand.
Speaker 2: Jupes simply mimic certain features of more expensive products, and
Speaker 2: they can get real close to these dupes. They certainly can,
Speaker 2: and interesting enough, I feel like, I mean gen Z,
Speaker 2: what the oldest gen Z'd be twenty six, so I
Speaker 2: don't think it's unusual for any generation to come across
Speaker 2: their contradictory. Is the way that the media, in particular
Speaker 2: documents gen Z's contradictions makes it really confusing when you're
Speaker 2: looking at it from just an analytical point of view
Speaker 2: and not like a lived point of view. So gen
Speaker 2: Z is responsible for this rise and authenticity marketing this
Speaker 2: idea that they no longer want to be kind of
Speaker 2: like sold a lie, or they no longer want to
Speaker 2: be positioned as people who are buying into the lies
Speaker 2: of the world. Jupe culture fits neatly right into something
Speaker 2: because realistically, what's happening with these jupes and the argument
Speaker 2: that people used to make is that dupes are good
Speaker 2: because luxury brands overcharged. But there are dupes for finely
Speaker 2: priced items. There are jups of items that are sixty dollars,
Speaker 2: there are dupes for items that are easily accessible, there
Speaker 2: are dupes for items that don't really need to be duplicated.
Speaker 2: So what is it about jupe culture that's so enticing?
Speaker 2: If you look at the hashtag for jupes on tikto,
Speaker 2: it's like billions of millions, of billions and millions. I
Speaker 2: can't get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 5: I feel like everybody loves the idea that there's like
Speaker 5: a little like ooh, like I think.
Speaker 1: It's the thrill of the chase a lot.
Speaker 4: The purchase is no longer thrilling enough. Yeah, the purchase
Speaker 4: feel extra good.
Speaker 5: It's because we do so much online shopping nowadays, fascinating.
Speaker 1: We have a burning question.
Speaker 5: Usually its Flexiya brings these to the table. It is
Speaker 5: part of her remit. However, Mickey has brought one to
Speaker 5: my attention, as per usual. Working over time, we want
Speaker 5: to know, would you rather go back in time and
Speaker 5: give your sixteen year old self advice or have a
Speaker 5: visit from yourself in ten years and give you advice. Now, personally,
Speaker 5: I would want to see myself in ten years, come
Speaker 5: back and give.
Speaker 1: My self advice.
Speaker 5: Why because youth is waning, y'all, And I reckon the
Speaker 5: last two years is when I started to realize that
Speaker 5: I am just like everyone else and I will get
Speaker 5: old one day, and that has been a process of mourning,
Speaker 5: also a process of excitement. I feel like in the
Speaker 5: last two years I realized It's like when pick meism
Speaker 5: became a thing that we all talked about. I really
Speaker 5: realized that my pick meisms have been a lifelong trait.
Speaker 1: And I realize and I don't.
Speaker 5: Mean that in the context of men necessarily, I mean
Speaker 5: more just me thinking that I am like terminally unique.
Speaker 5: So my friend says, terminal uniqueness, You think that you're
Speaker 5: so unique that you die. So I would want my
Speaker 5: thirty eight year old self to come down and give
Speaker 5: me advice, because I feel like she would tell me
Speaker 5: to just enjoy myself and go out more. And I
Speaker 5: think also she could give me some I think I
Speaker 5: would trust her because when I was sixteen, I thought
Speaker 5: that I knew everything, and it's only now every year
Speaker 5: I learned.
Speaker 1: So much more. I sound like Kylie realizing things.
Speaker 2: I would go back in time, but not to give
Speaker 2: myself advice, just to get perspective. I think that a
Speaker 2: lot of people make the consequence of living in the
Speaker 2: future when they should be living in the past is
Speaker 2: a good indication of where they're going. I don't think
Speaker 2: future me has anything to say that is relevant right
Speaker 2: now that won't just because realistically, like, if I get
Speaker 2: there anyway, then what do you have to tell me?
Speaker 4: I'm her?
Speaker 2: Like I'm her right now, So if you're just ten
Speaker 2: years in the future, I'm gonna get there regardless me
Speaker 2: in the past, though, I think that we do a
Speaker 2: lot of, like you said, this mental gymnastics on what
Speaker 2: the past was really like and is it the way
Speaker 2: I imagined it? And I would like to just get
Speaker 2: perspective on all the things. Just observing me? Was I
Speaker 2: as quiet as I thought? I was Was I as
Speaker 2: friendly as I thought I was? Was it really that
Speaker 2: hard to be raised in a certain environment?
Speaker 4: Was school that hard? I just want to watch and
Speaker 4: then bounce.
Speaker 5: That's a good idea to watch. I feel like I
Speaker 5: like retroactively get. I saw this meme which was like,
Speaker 5: I want to know if my childhood was actually harder,
Speaker 5: if I'm like I have told myself that or like
Speaker 5: that thing was just like I had a medium hard childhood.
Speaker 1: And that's why I like struggle. I can't really relate
Speaker 1: to either one of those. But I just thought, that's
Speaker 1: funny you're listening to Flex and Rooms on kit.
Speaker 2: Some Hollywood studios are pissed off with Australian cinemas and
Speaker 2: that's odd because I really feel like the world isn't
Speaker 2: really checking for Australia like that. So what mistake did
Speaker 2: we make in the movie realm that they're angry? So basically,
Speaker 2: the summary of the gossip is that some cinemas locally
Speaker 2: want to put an intermission between manscor Sacy's new film
Speaker 2: Killers of the Moon.
Speaker 4: The movie is three and a half hours long. Oh
Speaker 4: what is it about? Zn't worry about it, zongorry.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Some independent cinemas in America have
Speaker 2: already just made an executive decision to just put an
Speaker 2: intermission in the middle of a movie at the one
Speaker 2: and a half hour point. Let's just pause, get a snack,
Speaker 2: like the theater, go to the bathroom, see how you feel.
Speaker 2: But the issue is they're doing it without permission, which
Speaker 2: is illegal. Number one and number two violate's licensing agreement,
Speaker 2: which says that you can't like, change or doctor the
Speaker 2: film in any way. That's just like a legal point
Speaker 2: like porriob. Now the Australian cinemas are arguing that if
Speaker 2: the movie were streamed, people would take breaks anyway. So
Speaker 2: why are we making the watching process difficult in the
Speaker 2: environment when they should be experiencing the most luxurious way
Speaker 2: to watch this movie. We shouldn't be punishing them for
Speaker 2: spending fifty bucks on a ticket to come see this movie.
Speaker 2: Make it easy for them. And in response, they're saying,
Speaker 2: that's not the director's vision, but is the director's vision
Speaker 2: walking out through a movie because it's too long. Mickey
Speaker 2: has actually seen the movie in cinemas.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw it at the movies. How was it
Speaker 4: Saturday night?
Speaker 1: It was too long?
Speaker 3: Yes, and as I got my snacks. You know, I
Speaker 3: got my popcorn, my malteesers, my big drink of coke.
Speaker 3: Was it done halfway through the movie?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Was I thirsty? Yes? Could I leave?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: And I turned around. And to be fair, I watched
Speaker 3: it on Saturday night and everyone was asleep.
Speaker 4: Oh stop.
Speaker 3: There was a man snoring behind me. People with their
Speaker 3: feet up. Everyone's like leaning on each other's shoulders.
Speaker 1: People were tired.
Speaker 3: It was too long.
Speaker 1: It was he feels like work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like I was like itching, Like I was
Speaker 3: like itching to get it done, like I reckon for
Speaker 3: the last hour. I was like, get me out of here.
Speaker 4: Did you enjoy it?
Speaker 1: That was okay?
Speaker 5: That's how I feel when I go to musicals. Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: except for Angelia that hit different.
Speaker 4: I always appreciate an intermission when it comes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have loved an intermission to go refill
Speaker 3: my coat, just like stretch my legs a little.
Speaker 4: Bit or off of service.
Speaker 2: I mean you went in gold class ware. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: how they get. Yeah, it's upgrade for next time.
Speaker 4: Have any of these complaints?
Speaker 1: You had it here first, folks.
Speaker 5: Troy Savanne is the new Kylie Minogue.
Speaker 1: Hand or heart. I am obsessed with this man.
Speaker 5: I only understand fan culture when I got across choy Savan.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: It was in the last six months, a late adopter.
Speaker 4: Perfect timing. That means the marketing is working. Marketing, the marketing, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you mean? Well, I just love his
Speaker 1: songs and what you think you think you.
Speaker 2: Just happened to like Choice one in the last six
Speaker 2: months because he's fresh and underground, not because he's been
Speaker 2: on a rigorous marketing and PR campaign for the last
Speaker 2: six months.
Speaker 5: Honestly, I love when things work, so if that's it
Speaker 5: feels organic. His dancing, his songs, the way that bag
Speaker 5: Raders let him do, the little bit of shooting stars
Speaker 5: in got me started. Tell me why I'm listening to
Speaker 5: Chroy Sevan every single day about ten times a day.
Speaker 5: Going to walk got me started.
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's the.
Speaker 5: First like person where I've wanted to learn a dance.
Speaker 5: That's that song. So obviously, because I'm a new fan,
Speaker 5: I had to go and do my research. There were
Speaker 5: some prior songs that I did get around, including my
Speaker 5: My My and nineteen ninety nine was Charlie xx I remember,
Speaker 5: but I went in some research and realized that he was.
Speaker 1: A child star.
Speaker 5: He was on the Perth Telethon in two thousand and
Speaker 5: six and we're also the same age guys, and he
Speaker 5: was giving twenty four, so you know what that means.
Speaker 5: I'm giving twenty four as well. And he was also
Speaker 5: the little baby in Wolverine. I feel like he's one
Speaker 5: of the Australians who is going to transcend the Australian
Speaker 5: cringe thing, not.
Speaker 4: Of fans like you keep gripping on him, rimon.
Speaker 2: Australians love to grip when things are in their peak
Speaker 2: and prime. He's really going to transcand the Australian cringe.
Speaker 2: Ee if you leave him alone, let him transcend to
Speaker 2: different markets and then he won't maintain any people who
Speaker 2: have not been able to escape Australian cringe though the
Speaker 2: Australians cannot unsell their claws.
Speaker 1: From Also, sorry, I've got the biggest thing. His architecture.
Speaker 4: What was the comparison between Carli.
Speaker 5: Mean, yeah, okay, let me break it down for y'all.
Speaker 5: Choice of arm was in Architectural Digest. His house in
Speaker 5: redacted suburb. I reckon it's the best architectural digest I've
Speaker 5: seen in terms of like people love it because like
Speaker 5: I could get that lamp, or like you couldn't, but
Speaker 5: I could get that lamp. Compared to Kylie. When I
Speaker 5: was a kid, my parents used to drive down Kylie
Speaker 5: Minoaks Street to show us the house.
Speaker 1: It was in Glen Something. Someone will know it anyway.
Speaker 5: We used to do drive by to her house and
Speaker 5: I think, oh, my old Kylie Minoake's house. So that's
Speaker 5: an architectural dry jest in and of herself Number two
Speaker 5: Camp number three pop songs that will stand the test
Speaker 5: of time.
Speaker 4: I feel like I've.
Speaker 1: Unlocked something here, Guys, Kyler men O choice of arm.
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