1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts here, more gold one on one point 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: seven podcasts. 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: Playlists and listen live on the free iHeart app. Well, 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: it's our podcast and what a podcast it was. 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 3: We put something very interesting to the pub test. 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: This is something that I've been talking about on Double 7 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: a Chattery, the podcast I do with Anida McGregor. Lying 8 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: on your CV? Is it okay? Is it all right 9 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: to exaggerate yourself? Is it all right to lie about yourself? 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: To lie about the jobs you've had in the past 11 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: and what those roles were. At what point does it 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: become untenable? And is it wrong speaking about lying? 13 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: We've got an expert, a human lie detector, if you will, 14 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: Steve van Appern, joining us on the show. 15 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 16 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: He's worked, he's been a detective and he's worked in 17 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: many many murder cases. He's called in to look at 18 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: people to see if he thinks they're fibbing. We've got 19 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: some questions that we like to ask you, Brendan, So 20 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: get ready, what does come down to me? 21 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 4: Smart versus dart again? Footy tips? 22 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of miss the days when we've got 23 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: unreliable football's ex. 24 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 4: Footballers to come in on the show, which was dreadful 25 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 4: as to think. 26 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: I can't think of anything worse than trying to round 27 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: up ex footballers. And then there is getting darts straight 28 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 2: at me by you, the worst dart thrower in the world. 29 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm still winning the comp between me and professionals. Just 30 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,919 Speaker 1: just go to show and we talk about La Boo Boos. 31 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: La Boo Boo is the latest cult a small furry toys. Jenna, 32 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: our digital guru, has a selection of a collection of 33 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: La Boo boos. 34 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: What are they? 35 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 4: What are they worth? Why? 36 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: People going crazy? We'll find out. 37 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 2: She's gone to Lulu for La Boo Boos. Enjoy the podcast. 38 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 4: That the miracle of recording. We have so many requests 39 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 4: for them to do it again. 40 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 5: Mistress Amanda's MS killer Amanda doesn't work alone. 41 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 6: Good friend Groom making the tools of the trade. 42 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: I've heard them describe him as a drunken idiot. 43 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 7: I've been doing a bit the legendary part of Jersey 44 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 7: and Amanda the actress wigs. 45 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 8: Congratulations, We're ready right now, Jersey and Amanda, you're doing 46 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 8: a great job. 47 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 9: Anyone your Selfie Giant. 48 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 10: Good Radio. 49 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 7: Sorry but it's a tongue tongue twist set and Amanda, 50 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 7: it's shoot timey. 51 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 4: We're on the air. Top of the moment to you, Amanda, Hello, 52 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 4: how I am doing all right? I'm very well. How 53 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 4: are you today? 54 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sort of battling a minor cold, I think, Yeah, me, 55 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: me too. Yeah, you tour think a lot of people 56 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: have got at the moment slightly sore throat it. She 57 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: knows runny bits everywhere. 58 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 4: Because what today is. You don't running runny bits everywhere? 59 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: You do not. 60 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: Today is the twenty second of May. 61 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: I know what happened on this day. 62 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: It's Liam's birthday. Liam's birth Liam is twenty four. So 63 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: Jack turned twenty two on Sunday and today Liam terms 64 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: twenty four. 65 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: We certainly know what you're upper up to around us 66 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: nine months before these. 67 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: Having iva. 68 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 4: Sex. 69 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: But no, but you don't sex it up because I 70 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: was such a grateful thing to finally I would to 71 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: say the words I never thought i'd say, is that 72 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: I've had a baby. It was such a big, big 73 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: deal And the only reason I bring it up, apart 74 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: from you know, it's a big part of our family, 75 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: is that people always will say to me, I remember 76 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: where what I was doing. 77 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 4: Don't always say but. 78 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Of course, people say I 79 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: remember what I was doing when Liam was born, because 80 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: it's a marker of their lives too, that that's twenty 81 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: four years from that day. 82 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: I remember, I was in the studio we rang You. 83 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: I was with Andrew Dennon and mc malloy. Mc molloy 84 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: was filling in for you, and I was on the 85 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: show afterwards, and we all gathered in the studio to 86 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: talk to. 87 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 4: You about you. 88 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: Avenue of the little baby boy who was called Norbert 89 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: up until that point. 90 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: It's funny about his name because we really didn't know 91 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: what we're going to call him. And then two weeks 92 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: before I went in for a check up and they 93 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: said to me, I think you're fully dilated. I thought, 94 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm a goddess. I've gone through labor and I didn't 95 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: feel a thing. 96 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 4: This baby's going to fall out of it, and. 97 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: I thought I'd better think of a name. I was 98 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: looking at a magazine at a picture of Liam Neeson 99 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: in it. I thought, well, Liam's quite a nice name. 100 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: And so then, of course, when I was I went 101 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: home two weeks later when I was in actual labor, 102 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: and eighteen hours later on I dilated two centimeters. I 103 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: realized how foolish I'd been thinking I'd been fully dilated. 104 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: And when Liam was born and the nurse said, well, 105 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: what's his name? I said, I don't know, maybe we're 106 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: thinking of Lim. I really didn't know. And she went 107 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: out the back and did a nice calligraphy thing with 108 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: Liam and put on the crew. But I thought, well, 109 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: that has to be his name. Now, once it's in calligraphy, 110 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: someone's written it out in texter, that's their name. 111 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: Well, Happy birthday, Laber, birthday Liam. 112 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 4: I don't believe he's twenty four. 113 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to be a trained physiotherapist at the 114 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: end of the year's doing a master's in physiotherapy because 115 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: it works with Brown Rugby as a physio therapy student there. 116 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: And also wouldn't be uncool for me because I sprained 117 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 2: my ankle a couple of weeks ago. 118 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 4: I rolled. 119 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: It wouldn't be uncool if I just you know, when 120 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: I saw Lamb, I said, hey, mate, ankle's a bit No, 121 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: not at all. 122 00:04:59,440 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: Not at all. 123 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: Why would band over your face? I don't know, use him, 124 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: use him, that's what he's there for. 125 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Liam. Action packed showed today, Gmy rise not here. 126 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: He's having a day already. 127 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: Well, Jemi Ri's not here, but you know who is 128 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: coming in and that's Steve van Apron the human light detector. 129 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 6: Yep. 130 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: We've asked you to submit questions you'd like to ask 131 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: of Jonesy while the human light detector zones in on him. 132 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: We've got some interesting ones coming up. 133 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, do I have to wear some sort of 134 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: hat like a colander as I. 135 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: Know, the tin hat? I'm not sure. 136 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 137 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: I think he just looks at your face. 138 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: I think Instagram makes its return as well. We can't 139 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: do anything to we do the Magnificence. 140 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: Six question number one, which Disney Princess loses her shoe at. 141 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 4: A ball gem Nation. 142 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: We have for you the Magnificent seven. There are seven questions. 143 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: Can you go all the way and answer all seven 144 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: questions correctly? If you do that, a man will say, we're. 145 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 3: In for a couple of more days of rain. Can 146 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: you believe it did just that footage yesterday. 147 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 2: In Tarima, Mate Paul Stanley's house got flooded again. 148 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: Oh did you see the footage of people being saved 149 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: from their roofs? People losing their cattle, trying to rescue 150 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: their pets. 151 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: It's just absolutely heartbreak. 152 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: And did just see that other story down south heading 153 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 4: towards Mudgie. We're in drought. 154 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Australia. 155 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: Someone should write a poem about this. Join it'd be good. 156 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: Melanie's join us. 157 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 4: Hello, Melanie, Hey, how are you? 158 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: We're very well, Melanie. 159 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: He's question number one of the Magnificent Seven, Which Disney 160 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: princess loses her shoe at a ball? 161 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 11: Cinderella? 162 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 3: Cinderella, that's the one. 163 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: Which empire was ruled by Julius, Caesar, Augustus and Nero. 164 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 9: The Roman Empire. 165 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: Now we've set all the men off. They just stopped 166 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: thinking about it. 167 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: It's a certain demographic. I'd say between twenty eight and. 168 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: Thirty eight, when they get out of their ice baths, 169 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: they'll be thinking about that. 170 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: To see doctor Carlson. There are coln the ice barts. 171 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 2: Everyone's wasting their time. 172 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: I know. But if it makes you feel better, if 173 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: it's a mental health placebo show for it, Let's play 174 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: lyrical assassin. Now, how does this go again? 175 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 4: We quote the lyrics from a song. 176 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: Okay, we just say say the fashion. 177 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: And Melanie has to work out where they're from. Okay, 178 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: you do it, Melanie, don't let go. You got the 179 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: music in you. One dance left this world is going 180 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: to pull through. 181 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 11: You've got the music in you. 182 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: What's the song? 183 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 4: Song? You've got a reason why? 184 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 5: You've got the. 185 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 6: Music in you? 186 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 11: Oh my god, I know it, I know it. 187 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: We need the name, Melanie. I'm sorry. 188 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: Warren's in Castle Hill High, Warren. 189 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: Let me have a go. 190 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: You have a crack. 191 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: Don't let go. 192 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: You've got the music in you. One dance left this 193 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: world is going to pull through. Don't give up. 194 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: You've got a reason to live. 195 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 4: The song. 196 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: I could sing the entire song and people wouldn't. 197 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 4: Know it's a great song. 198 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: Well that's question number three Lyrical Assassin. 199 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: Podcast. 200 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: Where into the magnificence to. 201 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: Question number three? We're playing Lyrical Assassin. Hello Barbara in. 202 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 9: D y Hi mana, how are you going? 203 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: Very well? 204 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: Have a listen to these lyrics. Don't let go, You've 205 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: got the music in you. One dance left this world 206 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: is gonna pull through. Don't give up. You've got a 207 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: reason to live. Do you know what the song is? 208 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 209 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 9: You get what you give by the new rally. 210 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 4: Call et cetera. 211 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: Question number four for you, what country has the most 212 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 2: pyramids in the world. This is a multiple choice, Barbara. 213 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: Is it a Egypt, B, the Sudan, C. Mexico. This 214 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: could be a little bit of a tricky one. 215 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 4: By the way, Sudan. 216 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 3: Wow, it is Sudan. 217 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 4: You've got a Manda midsip of lembs. 218 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 3: It has over two hundred and twenty. 219 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 9: How I had my lempsick? Yes, sir, I know how 220 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 9: you feel. 221 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 3: That's good start, isn't it the lemsip help you? Barbara? 222 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, remember during the pandemic you couldn't get lemsip. 223 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 4: For love nor money because everyone and then Elton John. 224 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: Was coming out here was suggesting that maybe he could 225 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: bring some lemsips over, you know a. 226 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 9: Lot of other things. 227 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very true. 228 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: I'm happy to go there, Barbara anytime. 229 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: Question five, True or false? Kryptonite is the hardest natural 230 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: substance on Earth? Is that true or false? Barbara? 231 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 12: Oh, well, let's say it's or kryptonite the hardest service. 232 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 9: I'll say I'll say true. 233 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 3: No, sorry, Nixon Canley Vale, Hello on. 234 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 4: Nied It's a good reason for that, Nick. 235 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 3: Kryptonized the hardest natural substance on Earth? Is that true 236 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: or false? 237 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 9: Oh? 238 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 6: Must be false? 239 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: And do you know why it's false? 240 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: No? Well, yes it's false because Kryptonite doesn't exist. It's fictitious. 241 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: It's a material that's used in the DC comics, that 242 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: Superman's nemesis. So it's not real. 243 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, there you go. 244 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: Do you need some. 245 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: Question six for you? 246 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: Great Expectations and Oliver Twist are books by which author? Nickum? 247 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: There you go on it's. 248 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: Not Leonne Great Expectations Oliver Twist? Who wrote those? 249 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 4: Classic? 250 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: Sorry? 251 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 4: Nick? Dom is in Winston Hill. 252 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: Do you know who wrote Great Expectations? And Oliver Twist? Dom? 253 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 12: I do it with Charles you think it was? 254 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 2: Who is playing against the Bulldogs tonight at a Core Stadium, Dolphins. 255 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 4: You've done it? 256 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 13: You know it? 257 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 4: All money? 258 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 3: Oh, Dom, So you've done it. 259 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: Job Nick wishes he was dopping today graduations. My man, 260 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: you've won the jam package all coming away a Sheraton 261 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: Grand Sydney Hyde Park, famous Sunday seafood buffet, including a 262 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: beverage package for two. 263 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: You will love it. 264 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty dollars to spend the flowers for 265 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: everyone shop Sydney's precious flowers and gifts for flowers for everyone, 266 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: dot com dot and Jones Gnomadic Coach, jews be the Calorie, 267 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: and some state of pencils. 268 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 4: I say, Dom, if that's your real name, You got 269 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 4: anything to add. 270 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 6: To this other than that's a great price. 271 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 4: It's a nice price. If I could adapt a bit 272 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: of glen Ridge there. 273 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 13: Jonesy and Amanda Podcast. 274 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 7: The Legendary Bot Jonesie, Amanda the Actress. 275 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 4: I'm going to build a golden dome above the station. 276 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 4: Do it? 277 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: What will it protect us from a lot of our 278 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: thoughts leaking out? 279 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: If you want these thoughts, you can have them. 280 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: I'm combing through the germ of that guy big book 281 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 2: of musical facts. 282 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 4: Well and do you well? 283 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 11: Well? 284 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: Well, on this day in two thousand and one, Amanda 285 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: Keller gave birth to a bouncing baby boy, weighing in 286 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: at five. 287 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 4: We remember that, you remember it. 288 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: I think I was. 289 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 2: There, weighing in at five pounds and two ounces, A 290 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: small little thing, Liam Rhodes came into the world. I 291 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: remember we're working over Triple Lamb at the time, and 292 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: I knew your journey with I IVF, and you told 293 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: me that you were pregnant with Liam, and because you 294 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: knew I was good with the secret. 295 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you were so good with the secret. The 296 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: next day you said, where were you yesterday? I'd been 297 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: to have some test, You said, where were you? Sicking 298 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: the gats you'd forgotten this enormous news en after years 299 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: of ivy, if something had finally stuck. 300 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: Not in your head, though, But I remember when you 301 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: gave birth to Lim and I was so happy, and 302 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: everyone was so happy for you. And we're in the 303 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: studio and Andrew Denton rang you to see how you 304 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: were going. 305 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 4: You remember this. We all feel the same. We feel 306 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 4: the same. I had a baby done. 307 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 12: It wasn't here after all. 308 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 6: With the baby, we knew you had it in. 309 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 4: You had it in here. Now look at him, twenty four. 310 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 4: He's going to style, he's tall, he's. 311 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: He's such a great person. The thing is Liam, Jack's 312 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm very conflicted. Jack's birthday was on Sunday, and so 313 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, we didn't make a big gush of it. 314 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 8: And I'm going oh to in the German ac lim 315 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 8: Firth and you were you were upset, well, you were 316 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 8: you agonized over the fact that you didn't post anything 317 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 8: for jem I didn't. 318 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: I saw him all day and so I didn't. I 319 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: forgot about it. So yes, it is conflicting. But the 320 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: twenty four years and the radio station gave out little 321 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: onesies for people who had babies on the same day, 322 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: and people come up to me all the time, and 323 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: so I've still got more onesie. It was a trigger 324 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: for a lot of people to remember what they were 325 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: doing on that day too. So it's twenty four years 326 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: ago and if I play this song, oh, You're going 327 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: to make me cry. 328 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: You are so going to go go the blog Happy birthday, mate. 329 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 4: Oh stop it. It's too late, too late. 330 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: Once't you start, Creed, you can't stop it, gem go 331 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 2: one of one point seven. Hello there, it's Jonesy to 332 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: money to held that together quite well, Creed with arms 333 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: wide open? 334 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: Now what I'm trying to hold it together because there's 335 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: a lot going on in my life and if I 336 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: start balling, I'll lose it. 337 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 8: So that song it's mean to play well. I put 338 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 8: it on dedication A lovely her backstory. I used to 339 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 8: hate that song well when we were I but I'm. 340 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: Just going to read a nickelback. 341 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Stu hated it and then the morning Lean was 342 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: born or listener dedicated it. 343 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just heard the lyrics. 344 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 4: It's beautiful, it's beautiful. 345 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: I've seen it so differently ever since. I've got a 346 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: big lump in my throat. 347 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: That's okay. 348 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: But also, you know, you don't have to worry about 349 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: posting a tribute on the on your social I didn't 350 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: do it. 351 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: For Jack on Sunday, so I'm conflicted. I have to 352 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: ignore them all day. 353 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: You've got and played a song for him, Jack's can 354 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: and where's my song? 355 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 4: I want? 356 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: So you know the song triple and played for Jack 357 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: when he was born, as when I was working with 358 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: Migie Robinson Peter Burner. 359 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 3: She's got the Jack. 360 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: That'll make you cry for rather than Yes, it's twenty 361 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: to seven. You know, being a parent is fraud. And 362 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: I was just thinking about Elena Dokic. Demir has passed 363 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: away and at the age of sixty seven, and they 364 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: went on speaking terms. He left the country, went away. 365 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: I don't speak ill of the dead, but you know. 366 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: But how conflictioned is Father of the Year awards? 367 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: No it's not. And she's written about her struggle with 368 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: the emotional and physical abuse. She copped his at his side, 369 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: And as she said here, it's never easy losing a 370 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: parent and a father, even if you're estranged from them. 371 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: The loss of an a strange parent comes with a 372 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: difficult and complicated grief. So whether you see them as 373 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: your traditional appropriate guardian or not, there's a lot of 374 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: mixed emotions she'll be feeling right now, as she says. 375 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: And we spoke to her only just last year with 376 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: her book, and I asked, did she actually receive an 377 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: apology from Demir? 378 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 4: Have you ever had an apology from your father? 379 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 9: No, I haven't. I haven't. I've tried to reconcile with 380 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 9: him at one stage years and years ago, but it's 381 00:15:54,280 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 9: not possible. I think ultimately, no matter what you go through, 382 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 9: I think with your family or your parents, you kind 383 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 9: of feel like maybe you can get to a stage 384 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 9: where things can change and you can have a relationship. 385 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 9: But no, I jolt. I think when someone isn't even 386 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 9: able to say sorry, or when they actually think that 387 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 9: they did everything right and in fact, in his words, 388 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 9: he will do it all over again, that's where you 389 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 9: draw the line, Especially as you get older, you need 390 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 9: to get their toxicity out of your life. 391 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 4: She's a very impressive woman. 392 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: Your Landa Docky, Absolutely, and she's been so vulnerable and 393 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: so open in talking about her relationship with him, and 394 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: the post she did yesterday about him passing was no different. 395 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very from her perspective. It's about letting go. 396 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: When you're a parent, you know you don't have all 397 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: the answers, do well. 398 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: We assume that parents have their children's best interests at heart, 399 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: don't we. That's it's horrific to hear that's not always 400 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: the case. 401 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 4: Jesus. 402 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: Let's get on down to the judgment arms contest and 403 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: today lying on your resume? Does it pass the pub 404 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: test out number? By the way, thirteen fifty five twenty 405 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: two if you'd like to join in. And it's just 406 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: because of a chat that you had in your podcast 407 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: A Chattery which drops today. 408 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: That's right, Anita McGregor and I do a podcast and 409 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: it's an interesting thing. 410 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: Anita works at a university. 411 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: She runs a department of forensic psychology and often has 412 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: to mark work and employ people and evaluate students. Is 413 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: it okay to lie? That's what we're wondering. Do you 414 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: lie on your CV? Apparently seventy percent of workers confess 415 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: that they've lied on their resumes. Now, that may be 416 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: a slight exaggeration as to how many people are in 417 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: the team that you managed, or how long you work somewhere, 418 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: or it could be a big lie as to what 419 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: your qualifications are. There's a very gray area between begging 420 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: yourself up and actually lying. And if you get the 421 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: job and prove yourself doesn't matter. 422 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 4: Embellish a little bit. You're not going to say that 423 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 4: you're stealing from the company. 424 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: And Anita made a good point about Robert Patterson. 425 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 14: Robert Pattinson, he was the guy at Twilight. He said 426 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 14: that he went to Oxford to get the role of 427 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 14: Cedric Degree in the Harry Potter films, and you know 428 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 14: obviously hadn't done that, So I mean it's it's kind 429 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 14: of like, is it ballsy or is it just see 430 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 14: how as an actor it's probably not as bad. 431 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 1: If you said you went to Oxford and you're an 432 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: English teacher, that has bigger implications. 433 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 14: Yes, especially if you're trying to go and mark your 434 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 14: student's essays. 435 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 4: That wasn't very good. There is that if you're if 436 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 4: you're a doctor or a lawyer. 437 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: Or an engineer. 438 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: An engineer maybe, but you know this is the stuff 439 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: a folklore of you know the guy from Twilight he faked. 440 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: He said he went to Oxford to look how successfully is. 441 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: Isn't that funny? But there's a flip side to that, 442 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: and some people have gone to jail years after for 443 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: lying about their results early on, and when they end 444 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: up being CEOs, they go, hang on a minute, you've 445 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: lied back here and you're responsible. Back here. 446 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 4: I remember you told me that you had a degree 447 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 4: in nickelback. 448 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: Don't have well, my degree was actually in Leo Sayer. 449 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: Lying on your CV does it pass the pub test? 450 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 4: Jem jam Na said. 451 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 10: God, right now, crazy now your windows, stick your head 452 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 10: on a jel. 453 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: Down to the Jonesy, no matter of arms for the 454 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: pub test today. Lying on your CV? Does that pass 455 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: the pub test? This was brought to light in your 456 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: podcast Double a Chattery which drops today. 457 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 4: Your friend Anita McGregor, who is a clinical psychologist, forensic psychology, 458 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 4: forensic psychologist. So she went to university, she did the training. 459 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 4: She didn't just make that up. 460 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: No, but seventy percent of workers confess that they've lied 461 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: on their resumes. There's a fine line between overselling yourself. 462 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: Is that just playing the game or does it creep 463 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: into lyne And does it matter if you can do 464 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: the job at the end of the day, which you're 465 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: competing as other people who have proper qualifications? 466 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 15: Is it fair? 467 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: How do you feel lying on your resume or your CV? 468 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: Does it past the pub test? 469 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 4: No, it doesn't pass the pub test. 470 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 11: If you stall your TV, you go for a job 471 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 11: and oh, yeah. 472 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 9: Great, I've got the job. 473 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 11: How much to afford you? 474 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 9: Look, you turn up that job and you can't do it, 475 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 9: so tag on your face. 476 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 4: Lying on the CV it's a no go. I don't 477 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 4: want to experience. 478 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 11: You should lie what you can do, but you should. 479 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 4: Be able to embellish what you actually can do and 480 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 4: hopefully you prove yourself. 481 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 9: Absolutely not, no way. Well, if you lie on your 482 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 9: CV and you're getting to your job and you can't 483 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 9: do your job and you're going to look. 484 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 4: Like a fall, everybody does it. 485 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 11: You know. 486 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 9: I wouldn't say lie, but you. 487 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: Know, pump yourself up a bit, just you know, a 488 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: little bit of confidence doesn't hurt everybody, does it. 489 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 9: I don't think it's a problem. 490 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 6: No, because it will come back to bite you. 491 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 12: Later on. 492 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: It's true you said you had a degree in culture. 493 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: I do. 494 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 4: I do have that degree, you can I see it. 495 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 3: And I've got a master's in Barry Manila. Well, I 496 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 3: was the only one in the course. It might surprise 497 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 3: you to hear that. 498 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 4: Was done by Barry Manelow himself. Sham notion podcast. I 499 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 4: do apologize. I lied earlier before because I. 500 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: Was thinking that maybe the rains would go away a 501 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: little bit, you know, That's what I was thinking. 502 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: Well, are you lied because you don't even check the weather? 503 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: It's going to rain again tomorrow. Our next guest is 504 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: a human lie detector. His name is Steve van Apron. 505 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: He's a world renowned specialist in human behavior, in deception, 506 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,479 Speaker 1: detection and analyzing a person's body language, which allows him 507 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: to read people like a book that he's often used 508 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: to help in homicide cases. Let's assume Jonesy hasn't murdered anybody, 509 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: but Steve, hello and welcome. 510 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 6: Thank you, Amanda. This is exactly why I have my friends. 511 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: Well, how socially does it go? Are you treated by 512 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: your friends like psychic? Say? 513 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 3: You think you read too much into me, therefore we 514 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 3: can't socialize. 515 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 16: Well, my golfing partners know better to lie to me 516 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 16: about the scores, that's for sure. But look, when I 517 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 16: was a detect for fourteen years, and back in those days, 518 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 16: what really amazed me is that some of the detectives 519 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 16: were not very good at reading body language and detecting deception. 520 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 16: So I was always interested in psychological profiling. 521 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 6: So I went over to the FBI. 522 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 16: But the more time I spent with their behavioral analysis, 523 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 16: you know, the more interested I becoming cognitive and behavioral anything. 524 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 16: I wanted to know why some people made really good 525 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 16: liars and others were absolutely terrible, and. 526 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 3: What is the difference? So some people are better at it? 527 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 16: Well, yeah, look, the more complex the lie, it takes 528 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 16: a lot of cognitive processing. So if you're fabricating, creating 529 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 16: a false memory, or embellishing, for every one lie you tell, 530 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 16: you have to invent two or three to protect yourself 531 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 16: from the first one. And I don't care how well 532 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 16: prepared you are, you can't possibly pre anticipate every likely 533 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 16: question that I could ask you, what. 534 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: Do you mean? It was an example of that. 535 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 16: Well, let's say I'm interviewing you for like a homicide, 536 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 16: and the pathologists established a time of death at seven 537 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 16: pm last night and you were seen in the locality, 538 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 16: I'd ask you what you did from saying four to 539 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 16: ten and you might say went out. And these were 540 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 16: the questions questions of the tools of my trade. But 541 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 16: more importantly, it's not necessarily the questions, it's how you 542 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 16: react to the questions. So typically give you a real 543 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 16: quick example I was doing. I was training profilos in 544 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 16: Dubai for Emirates and these guys are really switched on 545 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 16: and these weapons they do. It's amazing what you can 546 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 16: get me using weapons. But anyway, one of the they 547 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,239 Speaker 16: wanted me to put some questions together to work out 548 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 16: with or not people may have been potential terrorists. So 549 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 16: one of the questions I put together for them is 550 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 16: have you do you have any terrorist associations? And they 551 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 16: looked at me and they said, why on earth would 552 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 16: a terrorists admit to that? I said, it's got nothing 553 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 16: to do with the question, but everything to do with 554 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 16: their reaction. Truth will people take ownership, whereas deceptive people 555 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 16: create distance, disassociation and separation in language. So many cases, 556 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 16: I've worked on eighty nine homicide cases, and sometimes what 557 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 16: I look for is whether or not the person is 558 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 16: taking ownership or creating distance. You know, Bill Clinton, I 559 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 16: did not have sexual relations with that woman. Often some 560 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 16: police departments will get me to look at a plea, 561 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 16: you know, media plea for the return of their loved one, 562 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 16: and there's a case here, kayjh Abrams, I don't know 563 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 16: if you remember that one, and the mother went there 564 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 16: with her de facto boyfriend, and as soon as I 565 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 16: saw it, I knew that they were involved because he 566 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 16: turned around and he said she was such a wonderful child. 567 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 16: When when he said, was that's past tense. Trust me, 568 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 16: if you've ever spoken to a parent who's had their 569 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 16: child abducted, they will never ever talk in past tense. 570 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 16: Why because their expectation is their child will be returned 571 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 16: to life safe and well. So it's almost like I 572 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 16: had given up. So getting back to the homicides, I'd 573 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 16: ask you, you know, where did you go? 574 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 6: I went out? 575 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 16: Where did you go restaurant? What was the name of 576 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 16: the restaurant? Have you been there before? What time did 577 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 16: you leave, What was your route it took to get there, 578 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 16: what time did you arrive? What was on the menu? 579 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 16: Have you been there before? That's a very interesting question. 580 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 16: Because if they have and they were involved in the 581 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 16: murder another place, they can draw from memory that they've 582 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 16: been there before, So then we have to take them 583 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 16: beyond that. So you may be able to think of 584 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 16: a lot, but do you sound believable and credible? And 585 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 16: sooner or later your story will fall apart at some 586 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 16: stage just. 587 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: Listening to that must not confessed to something I haven't done. 588 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 2: These are the questions that Amanda asked about me on 589 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 2: a Monday. 590 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 4: What did you do? What did you get up to? 591 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 4: It said, what are your cop How many questions are 592 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 4: you going to ask? 593 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: Well, we have some questions here, Brendan that our audience 594 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: has asked that I ask you, and Steve will observe 595 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: you right and let us know whether he thinks you're 596 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: telling the truth or not. 597 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 4: Okay, well I'll put my truthful face on. Will take 598 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 4: a break or come? 599 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 6: You should be very worried? 600 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 4: Should so? I don't know what the questions are? 601 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 3: Do you know what mushroom looks like? 602 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 4: Ohious? 603 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 13: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning on Gold one one 604 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 13: point seven. 605 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 4: Well, this is good. We've joined in the studio by 606 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 4: Steve Van Appron. 607 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 2: Poker faces out on stand, which I'm looking looking forward 608 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 2: to seeing. 609 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 4: That's such a great, great show. 610 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: But Steve has come along here today and give us 611 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: the ins and outs of detecting is a human lie detected? 612 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: He is, and he's worked with police departments and homicide 613 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: teams and all kinds of things for a number of years. 614 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 3: We're going to put his skill. 615 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: Set to looking at you, Brendan as I ask you 616 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: some questions, why to me as you put your hand 617 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: up and said you'd do it when you were tired 618 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: after a meeting one day. 619 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 4: I think I was paying attention. 620 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: I know, so Steve, I think that Jonesy has I 621 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: don't think he can play poker because I think he 622 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: has such a gurning face that he rubs his eyes, 623 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: he mimics and move I think I can. 624 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 4: Tell when I often find that people. 625 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 2: That's a tell when someone you know, how you going, 626 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: and they go, oh, I'm great, they touch their face. 627 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: Is that really is town? 628 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 4: What is? 629 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 16: We look for conflict or contradiction between what a person's 630 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 16: saying and what their body language is stating. So there 631 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 16: are more neural connections between the hand and the face 632 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 16: than any other part of the body. So usually it's 633 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 16: what we call a masking, consummer or blocking behavior. So 634 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 16: psychologically our hand goes up to our mouth to block 635 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 16: those false words really yeah, because we feel uncomfortable about it. 636 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 16: But at the last moment will be a deflection, like 637 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 16: a nose tarch to eye rub or something. If you've 638 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 16: got a decent itch, you give it a scratch as 639 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 16: opposed to just a cursory touch. So also, behavior psychologists 640 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 16: believe it's a way of offset and the anxiety of 641 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 16: being associated with knowing that they're telling a lot. 642 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 4: Because I saw the boss the other day and I said, 643 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 4: has the show going? He said, oh, it's so good you. 644 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: Guys face you're here forever. 645 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 11: Yeah. 646 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 16: But the FBI teacher agents to baseline or benchmark, then 647 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 16: look for deviations from that. So if you've got somebody 648 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 16: who always does that and then you ask a question, 649 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 16: they do it again, that tells me nothing what we 650 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 16: look for. Does the question become the threatening stimulus which 651 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 16: engages a change in behavior, and they're evasive, missive, dismissive, 652 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 16: side step the issue, don't answer the question. I'm sure 653 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 16: you both have interviewed politicians and they'll ask you a 654 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 16: question and they'll just deflect. Good journalists go back and 655 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 16: ask the same question again because there's usually a pretty 656 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 16: good read. And when those red flags are there, and 657 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 16: that is because they feel uncomfortable. 658 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: With a question, be as just ask you this before 659 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: we start. Are women better at detecting lies than men? 660 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 16: Not only are they better at detecting lies, they're better 661 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 16: at reading body language because you have more evaluation centers 662 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 16: in your brain. So there was a study and they 663 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 16: found that women make better lies because there's less response latency, 664 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 16: arms and ours, and they can include more content, information, structure, 665 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 16: and detail. So sometimes I get people on stage and 666 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 16: I'll say, look, tell me you know a lie whatever, 667 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 16: And what will happen is often women will not only 668 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 16: create a false memory that never existed, they'll also create 669 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 16: a false conversation with someone that never existed. So it's 670 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 16: like lying twice within the one lie, whereas men's lies 671 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 16: are very basic, like you know I'm running late, or 672 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 16: you know no, your bum doesn't look bigger than well. 673 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: That's question one. 674 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 4: Well, Steve, I said, what do I do? Just do 675 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 4: I just act? 676 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 3: I'm going to ask the question, ask a question. 677 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 16: Now, bear in mind I can only see the up 678 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 16: your head over this concerpt, You're going to drop the desk. 679 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 10: Good. 680 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 3: I just like playing with the d all right, Brendan 681 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 3: his question, I'm like. 682 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 4: Do I look at Amanda or you? 683 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 6: I was just looking at a man. 684 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: He's looking awkward already. Brendan. His question one, This is 685 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: from a listener. When you say people have adelaide legs, 686 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: what do you really mean. 687 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 4: They're athletic legs? 688 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I have a problem with that. 689 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 16: When somebody has a doubt, or they're not serious about something, 690 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 16: or they may not actually believe what they're saying, there'll 691 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 16: be a number of things that happened. The shoulder, shrug, 692 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 16: the eyes and hands usually up towards this, which is 693 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 16: indicative of doubt or uncertainty. 694 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 6: So I'm not too sure on that. 695 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 4: So he's saying, lie, I. 696 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: Think when you're athletic, you don't When you say adelaide, 697 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: you don't mean athletic. 698 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 4: I mean athletic. 699 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 16: Okay, it depends on where your definitions. 700 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 4: That buzzy coming from. 701 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: All right, here's another one. Brendan, do you think that 702 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm a good driver? 703 00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 4: No? 704 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 16: Yeah, Look what I saw then was his body language 705 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 16: matched what he was saying. So he shook his head 706 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 16: in the nugget while saying no. 707 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 6: So, yeah, I believe him. 708 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: Oh that's horrendous. Do you think you're superior to the 709 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: women who work here? 710 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 4: No, of course not. 711 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I actually believe that. 712 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 3: Really, yeah, do you believe that he does or does? 713 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 4: No? 714 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 6: No, I believe he's telling the truth. 715 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 16: And the reason why was sometimes I look for tonal 716 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 16: inflections and changes. 717 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 6: That was very direct. 718 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 16: Usually truthful people will answer the question very clearly, very succinctly, 719 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 16: and very directly, whereas deceptive people will often use an objection, 720 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 16: why would I do something like that? 721 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 6: I'm not that sort of person. But he answered the 722 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 6: question very directly. 723 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: Here's another one. Would you be a better host of 724 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: Sunrise and Matt Shirvington? 725 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 4: Of course I would. 726 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 16: Now this is interesting, right because this is an opinion question. 727 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 16: So a lie by definition, is where somebody wilfully misleads 728 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 16: somebody knowing that what they're saying is factually incorrect. But 729 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 16: you're asking him a question that calls for his subjective opinion. 730 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 16: So can your opinion be wrong or right? 731 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 4: Is the question? 732 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 6: So yeah, look, he probably believes that's the case. 733 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: He doesn't make it a line's quagging in his boots 734 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: this morning. 735 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: Right, here's one. A lot of people have asked me 736 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: to ask you have you had a crush on me 737 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: for twenty years? 738 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 4: Of course I have rubbing his face? 739 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 16: So what was interesting about that? It's quite an animated response. 740 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 16: And there was hand to face masking, concealment blocking behaviors, 741 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 16: and there was what I call the ant he'll I 742 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 16: remember watching Shane Warn being interviewed once and the question 743 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 16: has become a litt bit uncomfortable in the slight shift in. 744 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 6: The chair, a slight shrivel in the chair. 745 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 16: So usually if a question makes someone feel uncomfortable, there 746 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 16: will be some sign. In your case, it was had 747 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 16: to face moving and. 748 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: He's uncomfortable with that. 749 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 16: And also what we know through science is when a 750 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 16: person lies there, blink rate increases six to eightfold after 751 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 16: the livery of the deception, not necessarily during it. And 752 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 16: that makes sense because you're looking at the interview and 753 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 16: you're thinking, does he or she believe this or are 754 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 16: they buying this story? 755 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: So can you train yourself not to have those traits? 756 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: Can you train yourself not to look like you're lying? 757 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 16: Yeah, look, I interviewed a clinically diagnosed psychopath. And a 758 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 16: lot of people say, I think psychopathy is one of 759 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 16: the most misunderstood words in the English language. A lot 760 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 16: of people think psychopaths people who go out and kill, 761 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 16: not necessarily guarantee you. 762 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 6: Both of you, at some stage in your. 763 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 16: Career have worked with somebody whose psychopathic behaviors. A psychopath, 764 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 16: by definition, is somebody who is recklessly oblivious to the 765 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 16: physical or emotional harm they cause somebody. So if you 766 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 16: and I applying for a job, I'll destroy you, but 767 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 16: I'll get the job. I don't care what happens to you, 768 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 16: but I get it. And there's a great study done 769 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 16: in the US and they found that even psychopaths are 770 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 16: not very good lies. The difference is you or I 771 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 16: may feel guilty about if we've done something wrong with 772 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 16: some minor misdemeanor, whereas they don't. They're more concerned about 773 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 16: being apprehended for their crime. But the tells are pretty 774 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 16: much the same. So everything from and usually one of 775 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 16: the things I always look for is breaking into three parts, verbal, nonverbal, 776 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 16: and paralinguistic. Parallinguistic is tone, pitch, voice, modulation of response, latency. 777 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 16: When you felt uncomfortable, your tone changed, and usually there's 778 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 16: a slight tunnel change towards the end of the sentence. 779 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 4: Right, can I ask a man of a question. 780 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: Oh don't I don't want you to. 781 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 4: Did you enjoy me. 782 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 2: In a pair of speedos when I came onto the 783 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: set of the living Room? 784 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 16: No, Actually, I believe one hundred percent that's true. And 785 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 16: the reason why is Professor Paul Ekman. Professor Paul Ekman 786 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 16: did a lot of research into micro expressions. Micro expression 787 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 16: takes place within one twenty five to one one hundredth. 788 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 4: Of a second. 789 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 16: And you just showed the facial expression of shock and horror, 790 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 16: so your body language reflected your exact answer. 791 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 10: Well, have you. 792 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 4: Seen the footage? Steam? Every I would agree that was fascinating. 793 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 4: Thank you for joining us, Steve. 794 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 2: Season two of Poker Faces out now on stand Steve, 795 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: Steve Van Apper and thank you for joining us. 796 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. 797 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 13: Thanks Steve, Jonesy and Amanda Podcast. 798 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 3: Brendon and Evanda and you're on the same show. 799 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 6: Let's start wearing lipsticks. 800 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: Fantastic, so fascinating. We've been talking to Steve van Apprin. 801 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: He is a human light detector. He's worked with homicide detectives, 802 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: homicide teams, and he just looks at people and looks 803 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: at their behavior and looks at how they answer questions. 804 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 3: You can tell whether people are lying or not. 805 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 2: He's asking him some questions about cases has just been happening, 806 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 2: and I can't say them now. 807 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 1: WHOA fascinating? He's absolutely fascinating. We asked him some interesting things. 808 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: I was horrified when you asked him a question. I thought, 809 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: what's this going to be? 810 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 2: Did you enjoy me in a pair of speedos when 811 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 2: I came onto the set of the living Room? 812 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: No? 813 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 6: Actually, I believe one hundred percent that's true. 814 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 16: And the reason why is Professor Paul. Professor Paul Ekman did. 815 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 6: A lot of research into micro expressions. 816 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 16: Micro expression takes place within one twenty five to one 817 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 16: one hundreds of a second, and you just showed the 818 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 16: facial expression of shock and horror. 819 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 3: A whole lot of micro was going on. 820 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 4: I'm sure about that last. 821 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm where do you get. 822 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 4: Moose pings from? 823 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Well coming up, you better pad up, 824 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: Brendan Patrick, micros up because you're going to have some 825 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: darts shown at you with smart versus dart. 826 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 4: I forgot about that. Well, it's round twelve, she writes. 827 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: Round twelve of the NRL. And then you were experimenting 828 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: with who's a better tipper, the experts or the universe. 829 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 4: The experts whose knowledge and. 830 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: Insider information I representing the universe. Just throw darts at Jonesy. 831 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: He holds ping pong bats, representing the team. Where they land. 832 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: We call this smart versus Dart. Now, last round, Smart 833 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: got three out of eight, Dart got five out of eight. 834 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 3: I'm winning. 835 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: Dart is winning the whole year five to four. It 836 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 1: just goes to show you don't need any knowledge. Sure, 837 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: Now we just had a panic because you haven't got 838 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: your leg pads on. And just then you put your 839 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: cricket box in. So I'm nervous for you. 840 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 4: Take it hard as a. 841 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 3: Rock and now put it in. 842 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 1: So you were anxious about your new driving, Miss Daisy Glass. 843 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 4: Look at these clubs. 844 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 2: They're four hundred and twenty dollars waterproof gortex glass. 845 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 3: You knew this was Thursday, and they. 846 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 4: Looked stylish and they're so comfortable. 847 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: Well, let's get on with it because we've got actually 848 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: there's one, two, three, four, five regular rounds was a 849 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: state of origin I'll also be throwing darts to you 850 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: to pick state of origin of course. 851 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 2: Okay, back up, Brendons to Brian for coming in filling 852 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 2: in for Bryan. 853 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 4: Brian in for Ryan. Good work mate, Thanks. 854 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 3: We've added a b and getting on with it. 855 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 4: Coming in and doing this, Brian, you could have said, no, okay. 856 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: Now, I'm just anxious over here. Let me just move 857 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: this across the screen. So you stand in front of 858 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: the screen, and here comes the first round. 859 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 3: Bulldogs versus Dolphins. 860 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: Experts have picked the bulldogs. 861 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 3: Oh you close your helmet. 862 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, experts of picked bulldogs. 863 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 4: What will I pick. 864 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 15: That? 865 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 4: Wow? 866 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: Oh right in the face. Okay, move them around a 867 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: little bit. That hit a dolphin? 868 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 4: Okay. 869 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 1: Eels versus manly. The experts have picked manly. What will 870 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: my darts say? 871 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 3: Manly? 872 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 4: There you go. 873 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 1: Panthers versus Knights. Panthers have been selected. Let's see which 874 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: ones I'm going to get? 875 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 3: Ready right into you? 876 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 4: Oh did that hit? 877 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: Okay, ready, don't move them too much. No, that got 878 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: your new glove. Sorry, everybody. Knights versus Panthers, what's. 879 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:53,720 Speaker 17: Going to happen? 880 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 3: That went into your head? 881 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: That got a panther? Roosters versus sharks. 882 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 3: Brenda, I'm going for the growing. 883 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: Into what We'll go roosters when I can aim when 884 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: I need to. 885 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 3: And warriors and the raiders. 886 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: Warriors have been picked by the experts right off your head. 887 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 3: Okay, that got into a warrior. 888 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 13: Now. 889 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: Hold, we've got two balloons here. One is marone and 890 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: one is blue. This is for state of origin. No, okay, 891 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: you want to move them around a bit. Okay, let's 892 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 1: see what happens. Sorry, I'm just trying to hit Jonesy's 893 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: bosom balloons. Oh no, I've picked queens Land. I've picked 894 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: Queen's Land. Well, the universe speaks through me. I'm channeling 895 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry. Well that was exhausting. And he Glove's okay, Okay, 896 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 1: thank you, Amanda. 897 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 3: Brendan, You're welcome. Till next week. 898 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: Till next week we will put all those results because 899 00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: I know a lot of. 900 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 3: People bet on what I'm doing here. I'm like, who 901 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 3: was the name. 902 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: Of the octopus that could pick the World Cup? Unlike 903 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: that octopus? All the results all be on our. 904 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 17: Socials make podcasts free instance, and Amanda's here we go 905 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 17: ten questions sixty seconds on the clock you can pass 906 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 17: if you don't know an answer, we'll come back to 907 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 17: that question of time permits. 908 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 4: You get all the questions right, Happy days one thousand dollars. 909 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: You could make it two thousand dollars by answering a 910 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: bonus question, but it's double or nothing. 911 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 4: Liz is in Hearstville. 912 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 9: Hello, Liz, Hello, Jonesy, Hello, Hello Amanda. 913 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 3: We're trying to give this money away. Are you feeling 914 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 3: lucky Liz? 915 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 9: I'm lucky, Liz. 916 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 4: Hotally luckily Liz. 917 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 3: Let's see what we can do for you. 918 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: Good idea of that ten questions sixty seconds? Say no 919 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: if you're not sure, because we usually have time to 920 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: come back. Okay, lucky Liz, Okay, thank you, good luck. 921 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 4: Here we go. 922 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 3: Question number one? What's the main ingredient in pumpkins? 923 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: Question two? What spiky backed animal is on our five 924 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: cent coins? 925 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 9: Kid now? 926 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:07,479 Speaker 3: Question three? 927 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: How many Miller liters are in Alita? 928 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 15: It's alim? 929 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 4: Question four. 930 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 1: Mary Fowler is known for playing which sport soccer quession five? 931 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 3: True or false? 932 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: Scooby Doo's real name is Scubat. 933 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 4: False It's true, it's Scuba. 934 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: It sounds stupid, but Scuoby's real name does sound like 935 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: stupid Scubat. 936 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 2: Is actually Scuba as Shaggy actually says it. Dude, who's 937 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 2: going to know that when you started so well, sorry. 938 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 9: That's okay, thank you so much. 939 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 2: Cis you had me at le boo boo. I like 940 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 2: just saying the word l booboo. 941 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: Well, I didn't know what a la boo boo was, 942 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: but I'm hearing it more and more, and not just 943 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: from Jenna who works with us. The La Booboo is 944 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: a character created in twenty fifteen by a Hong Kong 945 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: born artist, an illustrator, and these have just taken the 946 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: world by storm to the point where they're so popular 947 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: in the UK. They're plush toys that the sale of 948 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: these plush toys have created a lot of tension, a 949 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: lot of aggression and violence in shops, to the point, 950 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: as I said, where one particular chain is saying we 951 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: are not going to stock them anymore really because we 952 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: do not want our customers put at risk. 953 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 4: How is that? 954 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: Well, let's work out, first of all, what a La 955 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: booboo is, Jenna High, You've buy three. 956 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 15: Three in but I've got fourteen at home. 957 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 4: What do they look like? 958 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 15: Okay? So I've got them here and they come. So 959 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 15: these are three different sets, so one from three different 960 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,479 Speaker 15: sets look identical. Yeah, well you hold it upset. First, 961 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 15: the first set, that's the first set, is the Macron set. 962 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 15: So I've got Toffee here. Toffee is like a toffee 963 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 15: colored one and standing up. Then I've got Zoo Zoo 964 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,439 Speaker 15: from the Have a Seat range, and then thirdly I've 965 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 15: got the super rare one from the Big Into Energy range, 966 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 15: which is the latest range. 967 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: Of La Booboos. What's that's name? 968 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 15: It doesn't have a name. It's a secret one, and 969 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 15: well how'd you get that? So it's one in seventy 970 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 15: one boxes is a secret one, and I was lucky 971 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 15: enough to get one of the secret ones. 972 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 3: And so when you buy them, you don't know what 973 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 3: kind you're getting. It's like a lucky dip. 974 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 15: They're called blind boxes, so they're available from PopMart, and 975 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 15: everything at PopMart is essentially a blind box, so you 976 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 15: don't know what you're going to get until you open it. 977 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,240 Speaker 15: So that's why unboxing videos are so popular. 978 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 3: So you could get three of the same one. 979 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, so I've from the Macaron range, I've got 980 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 15: two of the same and Why do you like them? 981 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 15: They're just so cute, you know, and it's just the 982 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 15: fun of lining up with everyone too. 983 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 4: How long you've worked in it? For now? 984 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 15: I don't work in it. I've worked her seven years. 985 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 3: What are you trying to say, Brendan? 986 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: What does your I'm intrigued by this though, as to 987 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: what There'll be lots of cute little things. 988 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 15: No, I've only got two of them and they're outdated. 989 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 9: Now. 990 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 4: These on your bed? 991 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 15: No, the squish mellows, yes, but these aren't. These are 992 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 15: on my windows. 993 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 3: Don't make her sound a little bit deranged? 994 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 4: Are you single still? 995 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 15: Or yeah? 996 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 3: Jenna can ask you. 997 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 1: Lots of these kind of toys come and go. Why 998 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: have these ones taken the world by storm? Why are 999 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: these ones getting parents to queue up? One of these 1000 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: stories here is that they were queuing up till one am, 1001 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: waiting for nine hours to get some. 1002 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 15: So that's especially this latest range, which is the big 1003 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 15: Into Energy range, which a lot of people are lining 1004 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 15: up for. They're just popular. It all originated essentially from 1005 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 15: Black Pink and the singer from Black Pink, Lisa. She 1006 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 15: was also on the White Lotus. 1007 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 4: Oh yes, so she. 1008 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 15: Has over one hundred million followers, and she really was 1009 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 15: the one who started this like popularity. 1010 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 3: Around because she bought ones that I like it, yes, 1011 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 3: and she's a. 1012 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 15: Big fan of La Booboo, so she puts them on 1013 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 15: her bags and everything, and since then it kind of 1014 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 15: blew up because it originated in twenty fifteen, but it 1015 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 15: wasn't until the collaboration between PopMart and La Booboo in 1016 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 15: twenty nineteen that it blew up. 1017 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 4: So my eyes are stundyed to try out now. 1018 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 3: I find it fascinating. 1019 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: And they're saying that people are attaching them to their 1020 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 1: backpacks and things in cages. 1021 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 3: So they don't get stolen. 1022 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,439 Speaker 4: There's cues, there's cues over overseas. 1023 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 9: Trying. 1024 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,240 Speaker 2: There's little kids getting lost in cues for grown people 1025 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 2: like yourself. 1026 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 3: And I saw someone getting a religious leader to bless one. 1027 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 15: Yes, but you also have to be careful because you 1028 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,879 Speaker 15: have to make sure that you get a legit one 1029 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 15: because the fake ones are called lafu foos, and you 1030 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 15: don't want a lafu fu So you see this QR 1031 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 15: code on the back of the my ones, so you 1032 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 15: you use that code in China, it's Chinese. 1033 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 3: If it's legit, if it doesn't say it's a labuobu. 1034 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 3: It could be a laf fu foo. 1035 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 15: Yeah, and you don't want a leaffu foo. 1036 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 1: There's much there's so many questions in a single. By 1037 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: the way, Well, Jenna, thank you, there's no shame. Come on, Brendan, 1038 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 1: Well do you like stuff? 1039 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 10: This is her. 1040 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: This is Jenna's version of you going on eBay and 1041 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 1: you know, looking for dumb stuff. 1042 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 2: There, you know, I would imagine I remember years ago, 1043 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 2: my daughter when she was younger, one of a Disney 1044 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 2: princess or Barbie Disney princess carriage, you know, like a 1045 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 2: horse and carriage thing for her Barbie, and you couldn't 1046 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 2: get him for love or money. And my wife had 1047 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 2: to bring my father in law, her father in more 1048 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 2: woman bar who then had to drive to Brisbane to 1049 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 2: pick it up. 1050 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: I've got baku gun that I got a friend in 1051 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: Gosford to buy and then I arranged to get that 1052 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: brought to Sydney. This is the stuff you've do in 1053 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 1: your parents when you buy them from children Jenna. 1054 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 2: For children, Jenna, the tribal trouble beat for this. I 1055 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 2: went mad trying to buy DoD Dudd excuse me. 1056 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm trying to find the Troubleman dog. Remember that. 1057 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was all the way Arnold Schwarzenegger. That's right, Sam, 1058 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 3: sit podcast. 1059 00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 12: I do what. 1060 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be chewing up for stupid toy. There's a 1061 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 4: little kid trying to find it. 1062 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 1: Bad in Mom the Laboo Boo for mama. You know, 1063 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: Jenna's mum just texted her and said, Jonesy's so mean. 1064 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: Jenna has a collection of La Boo boos. She hasn't 1065 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: mistaken them for the fake lafufus. 1066 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm just trying to help digital Jenna. I like 1067 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 4: digital Jenna. 1068 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 3: You know, Jenna should actually be Japanese. 1069 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: She should live in Japan because that their rooms are 1070 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: filled with all that stuff with no judgment from people. 1071 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:30,879 Speaker 4: I have no judgment. I'm here. 1072 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 3: It sounds like you've got some judgment. 1073 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 4: How is that judgment? She's a thirty year old woman 1074 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 4: with a bunch of fluffy toys and. 1075 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 1: That's okay too. These Laboo Boos, though, are absolutely everywhere. 1076 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 1: The popularity has meant that PopMart, who sells them, have 1077 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: had to close some of their stores in the UK 1078 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: because people are getting aggressive. People have been queuing up 1079 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: for nine hours to get their hands on some of 1080 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: these collectibles. 1081 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 2: Yep, the tribal drama is beating for this. I went 1082 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 2: mad trying to buy dot guards. 1083 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 6: Yes, I'm trying to find. 1084 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 4: A Troubleman dotto. Do you remember the movie jingle all 1085 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 4: the way? 1086 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 3: What was he trying to buy a turbo? 1087 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 2: The turboman doll that became a thing, the doll. In 1088 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six they released the doll. I just looked 1089 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 2: on eBay five hundred and fifty dollars for a Turboman doll. 1090 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: Well, how about this. Jenna spent just around thirty dollars 1091 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: to buy one of her lafuf la boo boos. No 1092 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: lafufu a la boo boo, and it was a special one. 1093 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: One in seventy or something. In the unboxing she got 1094 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 1: a special once worth two thousand dollars. 1095 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,240 Speaker 4: You could put it into a home. 1096 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 3: I could put you in a home. Leave her alone. 1097 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 4: She's got Hello, Wendy, how are you hi? 1098 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,280 Speaker 11: Back in the early eighties, I ran a toy department 1099 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 11: at the Old Wall with variety stores, and we had 1100 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 11: cabbage patch dolls but no one else had them, and 1101 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 11: I was carrying them out into the shop. They opened 1102 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 11: the doors too quickly and the women just flew through. 1103 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 11: I got thrown into a gondol around the glassware. 1104 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 9: I had to go and get your legs skeets. 1105 00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 11: Oh wow, they were punching on over cabbage patch doles. 1106 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 3: These mothers. You got crossed into a glass cabinet and 1107 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 3: sliced your legs. 1108 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 9: I got just got a cut on my leg. 1109 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 11: But yeah, I've got pushed aside. They ripped the dolls 1110 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 11: down in my hands and just threw me aside and 1111 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 11: then started punching on trying to get them crazy. I 1112 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,800 Speaker 11: was only eighteen nineteen. 1113 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 4: It was terrific. Wow, wow, it was only nineteen. 1114 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 13: The Horror Jonesy and Amanda podcast, man see Joel. 1115 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,320 Speaker 4: I've heard them describe him as a drunken idiot. 1116 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. 1117 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 2: I think I remember where I was when I heard 1118 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,760 Speaker 2: about the la booboo craze? 1119 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 3: Was it about ten minutes ago? 1120 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 12: It was? 1121 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 2: I was right here listening to that nice man and 1122 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 2: that lady for gotten no name on the radio. 1123 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about la boo boos. 1124 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 1: This is if you're a parent of someone who's obsessed 1125 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: with la boobos, you're not we're talking about. These are small, 1126 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: little fluffy toys that you get via a mystery box, 1127 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,879 Speaker 1: and the pop popularity has just gone through the roof 1128 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: all around the world, to the point where PopMart, who 1129 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 1: has released all these toys, is saying that their stores 1130 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: in England will be closed until further notice because there's 1131 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: been violent There've been nine hour cues. 1132 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 2: And digital Jenna who works for us, who actually pays 1133 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 2: tax and owns a house, she's got fourteen of them. 1134 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 4: She's got fourteen labooboo. 1135 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but one of them is worth two thousand dollars. 1136 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 1: She knows not to get a lafufu, which is a ripoff. 1137 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,280 Speaker 1: Don't get a lafufu, that's a fake laboobu. 1138 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 4: What a lafofou idiot. I don't understand this stuff. They travel. 1139 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 4: What did you do? 1140 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: You had a daughter? 1141 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 3: Your wife cued up to buy. 1142 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 2: Stuff for the princess carriage? Are the tribal dramas pleading 1143 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 2: to listen? Yes, I'm trying to find a troubleman. 1144 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 4: They made a whole movie about it. 1145 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 3: In Jingle all the way, Hello Chelsea, good morning, How 1146 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,919 Speaker 3: are we here? What did you go mad? Trying to buy? 1147 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 4: Well? 1148 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,800 Speaker 9: The problem is you can't buy them. You had to 1149 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 9: go to McDonald's to get them, and they were those 1150 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 9: Minecraft toys. 1151 00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 15: I had a lifetime supply of nuggets in that time, 1152 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 15: going about and did I get them all? 1153 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 4: No? 1154 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 9: Of course they were so for my five year old son. 1155 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 9: But I was doing my motherly duty as you do it, 1156 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 9: and you go around and you scour the McDonald's, the local. 1157 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 9: I ever went further afield. No, couldn't get them more? 1158 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 9: Could I? They're feeling very deflated and fast. 1159 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 4: Which ones you're missing? The collection? You know what? 1160 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 9: It's a saw point change. I couldn't even tell you. 1161 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 6: Now I've let it go. I've made peace for. 1162 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 3: That is really tad Chelsea. How many nuggets did you eat? 1163 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 4: Steven's Stephen. 1164 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 12: Yeah, nineteen seventy seven when we're in year eleven for 1165 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,359 Speaker 12: Star Wars movie came out and my friend bought all 1166 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 12: the Star Wars merchandise. He's still got it all in 1167 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 12: the original packaging. I think it'll probably fund his retirement. 1168 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 1: That's the scene, and particularly in the original boxes, all 1169 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 1: the crap that we bought them, the packaging, it. 1170 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 12: Didn't open, he didn't open and play with it, like 1171 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 12: all the other kids because it was like sixteen. 1172 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 3: Did you know that he was onto something then or 1173 00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 3: do you think he was an idiot? 1174 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 12: Well, I've called your privilege because I collect the Ken dolls, 1175 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 12: so I mean I'm a bit like him as well. 1176 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 3: And has your Ken dolls come out of the box? 1177 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 12: I no, No, thirty years are also in the box? No, 1178 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:11,799 Speaker 12: thirty five years? 1179 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 3: And what will that be worth to you? 1180 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: Stephen to me. 1181 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 12: From the original price they've paid for mine? And they 1182 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 12: say I would because I'm going to give it them 1183 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,320 Speaker 12: to my niece. I reckon she could sell them for 1184 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 12: twice or three times the price because it's not going 1185 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 12: to be released again. And the same way with my 1186 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 12: friends are Star Wars stuff. You can get copies of stuff. 1187 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 12: But that's the original one from the original movie, because 1188 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 12: now you though it was going to be that big. 1189 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 1: No, and only because I'm fascinated. What's your weirdest one? 1190 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,360 Speaker 1: I've seen an empanada kind of Ken when I was 1191 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: overseas Ken holding an empanada. 1192 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 3: What's the weirdest one you've got? 1193 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 12: I haven't got anything really weird. It's just that I've 1194 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 12: got pretty much everything for the last thirty five years. 1195 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,400 Speaker 12: As you know, one or two of them missing. But 1196 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 12: I've seen collections online, but people have unboxed them and 1197 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,919 Speaker 12: they say collectors don't like guffin box, so you kind. 1198 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 3: Of open them to look at it. 1199 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 4: You can't. You can botch them. 1200 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 12: You can't play with me, you can't open them. 1201 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 3: Wow, goods. 1202 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 12: My friend starts like fifty years old? 1203 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 3: Nearly, yeah, fifties. How can that be? 1204 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 1: Fifty years old? 1205 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 4: What a shock? 1206 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 3: Thank you, Stephen. What are you laughing? Brandon? 1207 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,320 Speaker 4: Nothing at all? Thank you for all your calls. 1208 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 3: Amanda Sham Notion Podcast. Thank you to the Cells, Stocks 1209 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 3: and Gravies. 1210 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: We have twenty thousand dollars at the end of the 1211 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,880 Speaker 1: year to give away to our favorite goolie of the year. 1212 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: We're pretty much halfway through the year, so please feel 1213 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:40,879 Speaker 1: free to join in any time. 1214 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,280 Speaker 4: When did that happen? What have we got today? 1215 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 15: It really gives me the ghoulies when people have their 1216 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 15: mobiles on speakerphone in public places. 1217 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that happens a lot. 1218 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,320 Speaker 4: You know, I hate as well. Sailor Jerry does this 1219 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 4: all the time. 1220 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 2: He'll be talking to some person on FaceTime and then 1221 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 2: he'll bring me into the conversation, Oh you know Jones. 1222 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 4: He's here, and then you're talking to some person over 1223 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,919 Speaker 4: in England and Jerry. 1224 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to be a part of the people 1225 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 1: that just walk along with their phones in their hands, 1226 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 1: like the Kardashians do, having loud conversations. 1227 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 4: What's with that? What is with that? To yourself? What 1228 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 4: else do we got? 1229 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,879 Speaker 5: What gets my gulies is when it's raining and people 1230 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 5: walk through a train station with their big umbrellas and 1231 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,439 Speaker 5: they don't hold them pointing to the ground. They hold 1232 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 5: them sideways and swing their arms with the umbrella in 1233 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 5: their hand. So in peak rush hour we we're all 1234 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 5: cramming upstairs and through walkways. You almost get stabbed with 1235 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,839 Speaker 5: their umbrella because they have no self awareness of people 1236 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 5: in front of them, all behind them. So easy, point 1237 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 5: your umbrella to the ground, the ground. 1238 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 3: Guilty, guilty of that. 1239 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 1: The other day I had it sort of under my 1240 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: arm and wasn't aware that it was poking right out 1241 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 1: the back of one of those big golf umbrellas. 1242 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, and in front of those ones that said who 1243 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 4: deser to to say about? 1244 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 1: Actually embarrassingly it said, big brother, how holds that from 1245 00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 1: the vault? I just grabbed a giant golf umbrella from 1246 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 1: the underneath the house and. 1247 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 2: It was it was that with a bat him with 1248 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 2: the good. If you did that, you can contact us 1249 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,839 Speaker 2: via the iHeartRadio app. 1250 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 4: It is seven to nine. 1251 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 3: Our favorite caller, email or Facebook friend. 1252 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,840 Speaker 1: When's three hundred dollars to spend at Jackleberry Bar and 1253 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: Restaurants in his spot for global Flavors and creative cocktails. 1254 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: Now the booboos are a big new cult craze. We've 1255 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 1: been hearing about them. 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