1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Get a. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter and professional oversharer. 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: our blind spots. Each week I'll interview a different guest 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: about their highs as well as they're lows, all in 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: a bid to inspire us. 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: To fearlessly fail. Heloha. 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: We have an Australian Love Island winner on the pod today, 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 2: Anna McAvoy. Fun fact, we were mates before she went 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: on Love Island and she reminded me she'd back in 12 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: the day she'd gone through a rough breakup and I'd 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 2: given her a Rose Courts crystal to bring her luck 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: in love and romance. 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: I'd totally forgotten about it. So this chat is literally 16 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: what it sounds like. It's two girls friends catching up 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: over a tea. And she was such a legend. She 18 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: was holidaying. 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: Environ Bay with a beautiful boyfriend, Michael, and they came 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: over recorded the pod and then we dropped them at 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: the airport. So what a legend for sharing her time 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: on their holiday. No less ps. She has an incredible 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: podcast out as well. It's called Where's Your head at 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: give it a listen, Anna, I cannot wait to see 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: what's next in store for you. You're a goodie, Anna macavoy, 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: Hello on this pod. Okay, so you are an incredible podcast. 27 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: I've been loving your pod. You're an ambassador for like 28 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 2: a zillion different amazing companies. 29 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: And then I would say you're a digital creator too. Yeah. 30 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a nice little intro. Thank you. 31 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: You just reminded me though our first our first few 32 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: hangs involved crystals. 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: Is that right? They did? 34 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: Honestly, I like I was thinking that because this is 35 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: actually the first podcast that I've been on that's not 36 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: my own, and. 37 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: I know I'll research all the one she's gone on, 38 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: I guess, And I was like, shit, okay, okay, we're loing. 39 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: My cherry honored my friend. Yeah. 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: So I think like one of the first times we met, 41 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: I have like a really nice memory of you. 42 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: Because you know that I'm a bit of a hopeless romantic. 43 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: You totally are. 44 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: You're You're like a self confessing hopeless romantics, which I love. 45 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: And we've always talked about heart stuff. 46 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like you're just like the guru, Like you're 47 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: just like the go to and you. 48 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: We always spoke about how I was like one. 49 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: Of my prints charming and I had just broken up 50 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: with my boyfriend of six years and I was a 51 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 3: bit down in the dance and I remember you gave 52 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: me like a really nice chat and you were like, look, 53 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 3: what's meant to be? 54 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: Will be? And you gave me a rose. 55 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 3: Call it's a crystal and it was a hard for 56 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: the heart and I still have it. 57 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you are the best thing ever. 58 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: That's totally mamutd because my memories of you, because obviously 59 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: we hung before Love Island, I think I feel like 60 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: I saw you with different book launchers. You're also friends 61 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: with Matt, my boyfriend at the time, and I remember 62 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: when I first got together with him, like brand Spanky Fresh, 63 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: you and I run into each other and I was like, oh, 64 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 2: that's right, and you go, he's a good one. 65 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: I remember you said that I was so excited to 66 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 3: see you guys together because I knew you separately, and 67 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: then to see like two separate entities that like people 68 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: who you think are great come together, it's like such 69 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: a nice, like heartwarming feeling. 70 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: I would see you are hopeless romany. 71 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: You do love, love and so I do have I 72 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: can't have you on this pod without asking about Love Island. 73 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: Is that why you were like, You're like stuff this, 74 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: I'm a hopeless romantic. I am because I've spoken of 75 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: Georgia Love on the pop perform and she's like, I 76 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: went on too fine, Blove. 77 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: That was my one goal. That's all I really wanted 78 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: from it, just like and I did and I did. 79 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: So was that the same mo for you? 80 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred and twenty thousand percent. Like I was 81 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: just like, oh my god, this is my chance to 82 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 3: meet someone. And honestly, before even going on there, like 83 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: before auditioning, I already knew that I was going to 84 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: go on, like intuitively, I was just like you could 85 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: feel it. This is my path. I know it's going 86 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: to happen. And yeah, I just like really wanted to 87 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: go on there and meet someone, and I did and 88 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: we were together for a year. Like it didn't work 89 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: out in the end, but it's so cool to say 90 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: that I've been on a show and met someone and 91 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: you know, like I remember before I went on being 92 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: like I'm going to be showing my kids these videos 93 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 3: and how I met the dad. 94 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: Oh your proper hopeless from me. I was I was 95 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: well down the garden. 96 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: I was just like I was like I was onto 97 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: grend kids and kids stories. 98 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I can totally relate. And I must say, 99 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: like I've soaked up so. 100 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: Much Love Island content of Bee because there's a lot 101 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: of awesome bids on YouTube, and you did, I feel 102 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: like you had a really like what I loved about 103 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: watching that show was like your goofy and I mean 104 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: that in the best possible way. But Josh had this 105 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: beautiful goofiness too, and so it was quite fun to watch, 106 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: yeah as a viewer. And then like my favor was 107 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 2: when there were a few favorite bits, but like the 108 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: way you're super anti fuss. 109 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: And everyone would be like, oh was it you and 110 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: I you were like fuck oh, I was like, leave 111 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: me alone. Do you know what it was? 112 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: I feel like I Love Island Like it was like 113 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 3: being at like a boy's frat house or like living 114 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: with just like all of these yakky boys and all 115 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: they were doing was like fighting on people and farighting 116 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: and they literally play the clip of meeting like turning 117 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: my nose. 118 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: Up and being like, nap, I don't fun. 119 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: I remember, but it was literally I was driven to 120 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: that point, like I was on the edge. I was like, 121 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: enough is enough of this fucking party. 122 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: So it's so good. It was. It was very, very 123 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: fun to watch. 124 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: The other bit that I love watching was when Josh 125 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 2: officially asked you his girlfriend and everyone got. 126 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: Involved, like Matt, you made on the pod and everyone's like. 127 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: All the boys were excited to go pick flowers and 128 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: make it like super special, and then like everybody just 129 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: popped out of the book work. I was like, it 130 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: seemed like a really cool school camp, Like it seemed 131 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: like a fun gang. 132 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 3: Everyone was so bonded and like it's kind of like 133 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: this really traumatic holiday go on. 134 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: That's the best way to describe it. 135 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: But everyone just gets so connected and so bonded, and yeah, 136 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: like everyone got around us. It was a really nice moment, 137 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: like even like to live it was beautiful. 138 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: But then to see it back was so cool. Well 139 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: that was my question, did you watch everything back? Yeah? Yeah? 140 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: Was it weird? 141 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 3: It was like it's funny, Like I talked to my 142 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: friends about this, and I have my own memories of 143 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: being in there, but then I feel like somehow my 144 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: own memories have transformed into what I've seen. 145 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: In a really strange way. 146 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: So like I feel like I've kind of like lost 147 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: a little bit of my actual memory for being in there, 148 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: and I just remember like all of the clips and 149 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: got it. 150 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: You know, episodes. But yeah, I watched it back pretty. 151 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: Much as soon as I could, because I was like, 152 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: I need to see what's been shown. And yeah, I 153 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: mean I thought it was pretty real. I didn't really 154 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: feel like the edit was off. 155 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: That's so good. 156 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I I think there was probably three people 157 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: in there that I think either got like a better 158 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: edit or there was like one person who I was like, 159 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: that's really shit, Like they got a yucky edit and 160 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: they probably don't deserve that. I think they're a nice person. 161 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: But all in all, I think it was pretty like 162 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: true to character. 163 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: That's so nice to hear. As the view are as well, 164 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: I have to ask being a nutritionist. 165 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: Was the food line, Oh my god, Like so obviously 166 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: the boys were on like a chicken and veg and 167 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 3: rice diet because they have to all like bodybuilding and 168 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: you know, all of the shit I don't like. Yeah, 169 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: but anyway, they were like bodybuilding, and so I think 170 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 3: from like day one, lunch and dinner was just chicken 171 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: and rice, chicken and rice, veggies, chicken and rice, and 172 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: it was honestly awful, like like I was having chicken 173 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: and rice with like tomato ketch up with flavor because 174 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: I was so like, I was just craving different flavors. 175 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: And I really like mix up what I eat, like 176 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: I don't like eating the same thing more than one, 177 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 3: like the same, Like yeah, what am I trying to 178 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: say the same night. 179 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: Over and over? Like you're not over You're not one 180 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: of those people. 181 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: A lot of people can make the exact same like 182 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: my dad, same brecky every freaking day, and I'm like, mate, 183 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: you want to mix up, but it becomes a routine. 184 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: Humans actually a habitual creature, so they get used to it. 185 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 186 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: Interesting. 187 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: Interesting in like from a psychological perspective, tho, if you're 188 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: eating the same thing every day, it stops you overeating 189 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: because you're just like, well, I'm bored of this food, 190 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: so I don't need to have more for flavor. 191 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: Unless that's why you needed to catch it because you. 192 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: Were like, mate, and he's saying fun and he's really fascinating. 193 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: Though I had I was like I've got to ask 194 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: this question. So question would you. 195 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: Do it again if like now going through it though, 196 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: like in retrospect looking back like it it's had a 197 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: really positive it looks like from the outside effect on 198 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: your career and all, like you've been doing some amazing 199 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: like Ambassadors stuff and opportunities. 200 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: Would you say, are you glad that you. 201 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: I'm so glad I did it. I think it was 202 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 3: like the right move for me. At the time. I 203 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: was kind of like looking like when I went on 204 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: Love Island, I felt like I was at like a 205 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 3: fork in the road and I was like, I'm either 206 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: gonna go to La or I'm gonna go on Love Island, 207 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 3: and the cards just kind of fell into play. 208 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: I didn't know this about La modeling in La. 209 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: Modeling in La may potentially acting like I was kind 210 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: of just open. 211 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh this excites me so much. I said, right 212 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: before you hit record, I'm like, I want to talk. 213 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: That's unreal. 214 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: Well, it makes if they're the true things you're kind 215 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: of into. It makes sense that you've done this because 216 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: like you'd be that comfy like with cameras now, but 217 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: also like if you're acting in America, like multiicam sets 218 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 2: and stuff, you'd be like, mate, you've probably had cameras 219 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: in your face. 220 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: That show looks like these cameras everywhere. 221 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, I've been modeling since I was like sixteen. Yeah, 222 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: so it was honestly like second nature for me. But 223 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: it's interesting because I feel like with Love Island, when 224 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: you're actually filming the show, you think that there's going 225 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: to be cameras everywhere, and there is an exception of 226 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: like when you go on like one on one dates 227 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 3: there is, yeah, and that's different, But when you're in 228 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 3: the house, it's literally like little CCTV cameras in the 229 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: very corner of the room. Like you're you're aware, but 230 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: you're so unaware. Like at the same time, do you 231 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: kind of like the longer you there almost forget they're there. 232 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: I think that you never one hundred percent forget that 233 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: they're there, because obviously you know and. 234 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: You see the microphone. 235 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, you definitely just get comfortable with it really quickly. 236 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: Like twenty four hours in, I was like, Okay, this 237 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 3: is Manu life. 238 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: I've moved in here to this new place. Yeah, that's 239 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: so like awesome. 240 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: But also, like I dated a dude many years ago 241 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: who was on Big Brother early days, big brother, and 242 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: I was. 243 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: Like, how do you go to the toilet? 244 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: And he's like, when I think when he did it, 245 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: they put a camera there or something like, it all 246 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: got changed off then and I was like I could 247 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: not handle that at all. 248 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, when we were in there, there was cameras on 249 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: the toilet. 250 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: No, yeah, that's a real thing. 251 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: And like I swear to God, for the first like 252 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 3: twenty four hours I was holding I was. 253 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: Like, I can't do it. I won't do it. I 254 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: refused to do it, and then you know you gotta go. 255 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you get used to it eventually. So how 256 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: long we there in total? So if you want it, 257 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: you would have been there. 258 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: For I was there for like seven weeks and it 259 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 3: was shot in Fiji. 260 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: Fiji. 261 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, bugger right before all this stuff where you would 262 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: have had to do it somewhere in Australia otherwise. 263 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,479 Speaker 1: I know Fiji was beautiful. 264 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 3: But the thing is is, like I hate to say 265 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: this because it sounds so ungrateful. A bit the season 266 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: before season one was filmed in Spain, so that's right 267 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 3: when I So when I like got the gig, essentially 268 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: like I got onto the show, I like I'm planning 269 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: there some of the akaarter I'm gonna go to Italy 270 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna go here and here and here afterwards, 271 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: and then they were like, no, it's in Fiji, and 272 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: I was like, oh okay, like that's still good. 273 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, I got yeah, I gotcha, I gotcha. 274 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: So okay, So I promise I'll talk other stuff. I 275 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 2: just find it so so fascinating. So I remember what 276 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: usually happens when people do reality is like when you 277 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 2: or from like earlier on the region process, you have 278 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: to say pretty like secret squirrels, like you can't tell people, right, yeah, 279 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: so it's like top secret, top secret. And then do 280 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: you kind of like go in hiding for a little while, 281 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: Like do they send you there a bit before? They 282 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: send you there a week before and they take your 283 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: phones away there's no internet, like you're in a hotel 284 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: room by yourself, and like it's funny because I've heard 285 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: heaps of people from Love Island like talk Love Island, 286 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 2: but no one really talks about like that week before 287 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: where you literally it's honestly so terrifying, like your your 288 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 2: head just goes a million miles an hour. They give 289 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: you like a USB with five movie on it, and 290 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: like that's your entertainment. Like it's intense, and you're literally 291 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 2: like like hotel quarantine. 292 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: You're hotel quarantine, but with nothing to do, and like 293 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I suffer from like anxiety. So for me, 294 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 3: like my head was going a million miles an hour, 295 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 3: and I guess like the only thing to do is 296 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: like you get to leave the room to eat food, 297 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 3: and then you just exercise in the room because you're like, shit, 298 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be on TV in a bikini soon. 299 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: This is intense. I should do some sit up. 300 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh that would have freaked me out straight away. Yeah, 301 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: Like but you you're freaking gorgeous, so you have nothing 302 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: to worry about. I can imagine that would be confronting, bets, 303 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: so confronting especially, But yeah, the hotel quarantine beforehand, like 304 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: I've just done it coming back from La and it's 305 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: no joke, like it is an experience. 306 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: It really is so okay. 307 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: So after you win, you like you've been in Fiji, 308 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: life's all fun and happy and like I've saw like 309 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: as well, your YouTube. 310 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: Went up, your Instagram, like everything was just kind of 311 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: like blowing up. And now so. 312 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: Now we're fast waking because that was twenty nineteen. We're 313 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: chatting now in twenty twenty one. This will come out 314 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: and start twenty twenty two. What's next for you? Like, 315 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: first of all, I feel like pause that question. I've 316 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: got to talk your pod because it's so good. Where's 317 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: your head at? 318 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: Thanks you? Yeah, where's your head at? 319 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: I have been soaking it. I've got a few favorite apps. 320 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the one I listen to today. But 321 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: also I love when you got Josh on your ex. Yeah, 322 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: And I love the you introduced him as your ex, 323 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: like he was like, not winner of Love Island, not 324 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: like competing on the block, just and his X And 325 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: I was like, yes, that's correct. 326 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: I was like, yes, you are beyond my podcast, and 327 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: that is your place at the marment. 328 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: He did good, though, you both did good. 329 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I love the podcause these these are two 330 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: reasons I love it. One it's honest, yeah, and from 331 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: the get go, like I listened to early early Epps 332 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: as well, Like it just feels like I'm having a 333 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: coffee with you. 334 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 335 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: And Matt sounds like a legend too, Like you sound 336 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: like you have this really lovely respect for each other. 337 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: But like you're comfortable like bantering a bit. So how 338 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: what made it happen? Like, well, how did it come about? 339 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: I think then that we just have some really fun, exciting, 340 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 3: wild chats and we have a really fun and like 341 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: very energetic friendship and there's so many laughs, and we 342 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 3: were like, we really want to share this with people, 343 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: Like I feel like on Instagram you get like a 344 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: really small part of people's lives and then Instagram Story 345 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 3: gave you like a little bit more, and I think 346 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: with podcasting you can just share so much. 347 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: Its long forms. 348 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, good, And like I think we made a part 349 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: to be really honest, really open and transparent and like 350 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 3: people say that, but we really like pride ourselves on 351 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: just you know, just not holding anything back, and I 352 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 3: think that's what we've done. But also we've tried to 353 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: keep it really fun. Like a lot of people listen 354 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: and they're like, god, I was having a really bad 355 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: day and like I just end up laughing out loud, 356 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: like I'm having fun with you guys. 357 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: And we were like, well, that's like that's what we wanted. 358 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: That was the goal. So yeah, we're really lucky, and. 359 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 3: I think it's a it's a good dynamic having like 360 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 3: a relationship podcast with boy girl because I don't think 361 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 3: there's a lot out there like that. So I think 362 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: people are interested to hear it from a guy's perspective 363 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: but also girl's perspective, and you know they want it. 364 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 3: They want me to kind of like sometimes put Matt 365 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 3: in his place or like corrective and you know it's fun. 366 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 2: So, yeah, you've got such a good kmardo And because 367 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: it is like I know, you've had like little mini 368 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 2: pass but like because it is platonic, there's this underlying respect. 369 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: So it feels really fun to listen to it. A 370 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: bit reminds me of like, yeah, like that Best Mate 371 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: where you're. 372 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 2: Just like no, no, no, no no, a pull upia, 373 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: Like it's got that really nice band to do it. Yeah, 374 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 2: and you're getting an overwhelming response from it, aren't you. 375 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 2: Like people love it because, let's be honest, podcast can 376 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 2: be a bit of work. 377 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's no joke, and you guys are doing it 378 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: all yourself. 379 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, we just signed to an agency because they're good. 380 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and it is. It's so much work. 381 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that it could be a full time job. 382 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: Like it's full on. 383 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 3: It and it does it like it takes up so 384 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: much of my time because it's kind of like your baby, 385 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 3: like you want to put like so much love and 386 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: energy and like you know, positive vibes towards it, and 387 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: like any like off minute that I get like I'm 388 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: on it or like I'm doing things for it, and 389 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 3: like thinking about any episodes and you know, it's so 390 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: much fun. 391 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: I love doing it. Do you have a favorite app? 392 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: I feel like. 393 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: I love the episode that we just did and with 394 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: Matt because he talks about his infertility journey, which I 395 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 3: just sound to be really powerful because I know how 396 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,239 Speaker 3: much he's struggled with that, and like even since like 397 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 3: starting the podcast, we've spoken about potentially talking about it, 398 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 3: and he's always been ummie and eyeing, and I think 399 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: him like basically just taking a step and being like, 400 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: you know what, like if I can help people or 401 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 3: like be someone who people can look up to and 402 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 3: be like, oh, Matt goes through this as well, Like 403 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: that's like what better reason. 404 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 2: The bit that got me when I was listening to 405 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 2: that was when he said his mom cried and I 406 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: was like, oh, matey, Like I felt I really and 407 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: having watched him in the house with you. I was like, oh, 408 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 2: it's like a bit of a goober, too excitable goober. 409 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: And I was like, ah, and like I don't think 410 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: I've heard anyone of his age talk about that from 411 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: a male's perspective as well, So that would have been 412 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: so confronting. But imagine how many people that would have helped, 413 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: females and males, because like, I'm thirty six, so I 414 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: face people DM me like about my fertility all the 415 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: time without me asking for it. 416 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: Ps. But it's such a it's really full on what 417 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: he'll say. 418 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 2: So I think he's done something really amazing just by 419 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: as scary as it would have been for you guys both, 420 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: And like, well done to you for holding space for him, 421 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: because he would have had to have trusted you heaps 422 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: to do that. 423 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and he said like he was like I 424 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: couldn't have done it with anyone else. And I think 425 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 3: that's why we're so like we're great co hosts because 426 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: we do have like a really strong friendship. 427 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: That's okay, yeah, and you're but you'll like think about 428 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: your I feel like you're tourists. I'm a virgo, so like. 429 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: Loyalty is important for us one hundred and even if 430 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: we go back to the first time we met with 431 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 2: the Rose Courts, that would. 432 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: Have been seven years ago, like it's a long time ago. 433 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to before I talk about dreams again 434 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 2: because that's like my favorite topic. I have to bring 435 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: up my favorite YouTube prase that you did, and I 436 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: just so so. 437 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: You see that it was on job and you were 438 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: doing the. 439 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: Ugly makeup that's can you take just for people that 440 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: might not have seen it yet, what you did. 441 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 3: It's so funny because I saw this prank online before, 442 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 3: like pre getting a boyfriend, and I was like, the 443 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 3: next boyfriend I get, I will do this rank on him, 444 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: whether I posted or not, Like I was just like 445 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: committed to one day doing this. So I basically like 446 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 3: put on really bad makeup like I had like the 447 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 3: blue eyeshadow hates. 448 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just like purple was it? Purple lip? 449 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: Purple overage your lips, like the most disgustingly dirty contour 450 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 3: you've ever seen in your life. 451 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 2: I am like super lighte on the foundation, but then 452 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 2: conto it it like. 453 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: It almost it looks really dirty. 454 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: That is a yeah, it just it looked foul like 455 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 3: on on my camera. 456 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: It actually looked better than it was life, but I 457 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: was still pretty much it was so much. 458 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 2: It was so yeah, take me through because I have 459 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: a favorite moment from this video. 460 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, so did the really bad makeup Josh up from 461 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 3: the gym. 462 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: I then got in the car. Sorry. 463 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: He then got in the car. I acted completely normal, 464 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 3: like nothing was wrong. His face was shocked. He was 465 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: shook to his care and then I pretended that I 466 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 3: was just like trying any papa color my lips, and 467 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: he was like, are you sure you want to go 468 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: out like this? 469 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure that I want to go out 470 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: with you like this? 471 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: My favorite bits, this is my favorite. He just says 472 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 2: it's a lot to take in. 473 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: And I was. He was trying to be the sweetest thing, 474 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: but he just could not. 475 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: He's like, do you maybe want to go to like 476 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: it's okay? Do you feel like like takeaway or like 477 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: a quiet cafe? And you're like, babe, women, do you 478 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 2: feel like filming of log today? And You're like, do 479 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: you think I might be like really putting the bread? 480 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: It's like, I just I really liked yesterday's makeup off 481 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 2: and I was like, this is so well done to 482 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: you that was you nailed that right here. But I 483 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: also think like your personality carries over into your pod 484 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 2: as well and obviously across your socials. 485 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: But thank you. 486 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 2: I yeah, I think I'm excited to see hear more 487 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: of the pod because it just it just is you, 488 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: and I like, yeah, I think as well have like 489 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: becoming extra famous through reality team. It's nice to see 490 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 2: real people doing it, you know what I mean. Here, 491 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: let's talk dreams because we were talking we were talking 492 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 2: La in the car here and so yeah, I love 493 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 2: La as well, and I've just started building a home there. 494 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: So do you. 495 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: Do you see yourself going over there or do you 496 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 2: want to focus on like what's the next few years 497 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: for you? Do you want to focus on modeling acting? 498 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I think modeling has like I've 499 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 3: done that. I did it for ten years, and I'm 500 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: kind of like I've closed that chapter. But I mean, 501 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: obviously the Ambassadorships. I don't know if I ever see 502 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 3: myself doing another reality TV show, but I think anything 503 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 3: is possible. 504 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: Like I really. 505 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: Want to write a kid's book, to be honest, I 506 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 3: like I have so much in like the woodwork, Like 507 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 3: I want to start a business I just want to 508 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 3: kind of be like a master of all trades and 509 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: just kind of do a little bit of everything, Like 510 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: nothing is off limits. You know, I did acting when 511 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 3: I was younger. Could I see myself doing acting? I'm 512 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: not sure, but like I'm still open to it. Presenting, 513 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 3: like I've done courses. 514 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: I could see you presenting. Yeah, I would love. I 515 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: would love to do presenting well in Melbourne. It's because 516 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: you're a Melbourne girl. In Melbourne. 517 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: You've got postcards comes out of there, project comes out that, 518 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 2: You've got a couple of good shows that come out. 519 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 3: Now. Yeah, there's definitely, like so many cool options. But 520 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: I'm just honestly excited, Like there's so many cool abba 521 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 3: news that I could take and I kind of want 522 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: to take them all. 523 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: Do it, jump run at them all. 524 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: If you did a kid's book, would you illustrate it 525 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: as well or would you bring on an illustration? 526 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: I bring on an illustrator. I'm not the best because 527 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: Sneaky didn't tell it. I didn't know. 528 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 3: I wish, but no, I'd bring on an illustrate kid's 529 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 3: book that's just come out. 530 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: I feel like you'd like it. It's it's by Rebel Wilson. 531 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: It's called Bella the Brave and it's all I'm pretty 532 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: positive it's kids book about bravery. 533 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: How cool is that? I love that. 534 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 3: I would love to just like do something that kind 535 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 3: of incorporates like mental health into a kid's book. I 536 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 3: have a boyfriend now, Michael. 537 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: You just got to hang with him. 538 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: He's so sweet, and you know we've been talking about 539 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 3: doing that potentially together, which could be fun so good. 540 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, like there's so much in the 541 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 3: pipeworks and I'm your secret. 542 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: Keep whatever you need to secret. 543 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: I totally get that you are really open about mental 544 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: health and you are really open about. 545 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: Anxiety as well. 546 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: Have people What's been in the response when you have 547 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 2: shared stuff like that with your audience. 548 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: Really really positive? I think. 549 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: When I first got out of Love Island, I guess 550 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: I just had like this a whole new, huge audience, 551 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: and I guess they didn't really know what to expect 552 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: from me because they'd just seen me on the show 553 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: and I was like really happy and bubbly and like 554 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: they got to see that type of side of me. 555 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: But I mean, I guess what you don't see straight 556 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: up when you watch people on reality TV is that 557 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 3: they might suffer silently with things like anxiety, and so 558 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 3: like from the moment I got out, I would post 559 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: things that would help me, that I would see online 560 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: that would help me with anxiety. 561 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: The amount of times I've like screen grabbed those memes 562 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: you share about anxiety, They're so helpful, and I think 563 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: the more people can share about it, the better any 564 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 2: form of mental health, like even for me, Like, and 565 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: I got really sick of talking about nutrition all the time, 566 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 2: and like how many times can I talk about gluten 567 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 2: free pancakes? 568 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: And I said, can we just talk about mental health? 569 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: And they're like what, And I'm like, I just love 570 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 2: talking about therapy and the importance of it. 571 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: Do you have a therapist? 572 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 3: I used to go to therapy up until about six 573 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 3: to eight months ago. I haven't been recently because I've 574 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 3: been just like I feel like I worked on myself 575 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 3: so much and I just felt really happy, really content, 576 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 3: really grateful with where I was at, and I kind 577 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 3: of just. 578 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: Felt like I could take a break and I was 579 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: totally that's how therapy works. 580 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, And like it didn't mean that I wasn't working 581 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 3: on myself anymore. I wasn't doing things that were gonna, 582 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 3: you know, make sure that my mental health was like 583 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 3: doing the best it could. But I mean, if tomorrow 584 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: I have a moment and I'm like I need to 585 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: go back and see him, you know, I'd be straight 586 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 3: back there. 587 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thanks for sharing that because I'm so pro therapy. Yeah, 588 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 2: I love like I've got one on chooshow and I'm like, 589 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: I just love, I just love. 590 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: I just love having it feels like you've got a cheerleader. 591 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 2: Almost that you can just share your life with and 592 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: know that their feedback is going to be non bias. 593 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: And I just think, like, I'm so pumped for you 594 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 2: because I'm a fair chunk older than you, and I 595 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 2: just think I'm so excited for you because like. 596 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: You do book, you do hivbie presenting. 597 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 2: There's some really great TV presenting stuff in Melbourne too. Coursewise, 598 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 2: i'll send it to you after I know you've trained 599 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 2: in it. But so much fun just to be doing 600 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 2: it fun and like, yeah, I can totally see you 601 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 2: doing that a thousand and ten percent. Do you see 602 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: yourself staying in Melbourne or do are you open to 603 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: moving around? 604 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: I'm really open to moving around, Like, I don't know 605 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 3: if I've told you this before, but growing up, I 606 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 3: basically lived all over the world as a kid. We 607 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: moved around because of my dad's job, so we lived 608 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: in crazy places, like we lived in Mexico for a year, 609 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 3: we lived in America for a couple of years. 610 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: I was born in the UK, so well, you'd have 611 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: duel passports, I do. Yeah, so good. 612 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean, and it's funny because Michael, my 613 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: new boyfriend, his family did exactly the same thing. Like 614 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 3: both of our families lived in Saudi Arabia at different 615 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: times that we were like similar ages, really yeah, and 616 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 3: so I mean it was one of the first things 617 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 3: that we like connected on on our first day. We 618 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 3: were like, oh, I don't know anyone else who's lived there. Yeah, 619 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: And so I think, just like you know, obviously we 620 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: have those things in common, and I would just I 621 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: could totally see myself just picking up a moving especially 622 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 3: after the last few years of just. 623 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: In lockdowns and whatnot. 624 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 3: We were forced to become homebodies, which was good. But 625 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 3: I'm so adventurous and I'm like ready for the next 626 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 3: I'm a taurist, like you know, I just that's where 627 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 3: my passion lies. Like I love pushing myself outside of 628 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 3: my comfort zone. Yeah, Like I just feel like when opportunities, sorry, 629 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: opportunities arise and such a yes person and like I 630 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 3: just think, you know, life starts outside of your comfort 631 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 3: zone totally, And how cool is a kid to grow 632 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 3: up in all those different places? 633 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 1: I did. 634 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: I grew up in Australia, but my parents got divorced 635 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: real young and my and everyone sees that as like 636 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: a negative, but my brother and I got to like, life's. 637 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, so cool. We see the positive. 638 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: We got to see both parents chase careers and like 639 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: do what they loved, and so now we're both very 640 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: career driven. I'm like, it's so interesting when you look 641 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: back and see how and it's really interesting that you 642 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: and Michael have the same childhood. And I have to ask, 643 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: because Michael's lovely. How did you guys meet? 644 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: So he works for Channel nine and I was being 645 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: like a guest judge. 646 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: On Biddy and the gee, yeah is that fun? So fun? Yeah? 647 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 3: And I kind of like turned around from like the 648 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: judging panel and I spotted him and like, I I'm 649 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 3: like a stucker for a tall man. 650 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: I know I've heard this on the pod because. 651 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: I'm like five eleven, so I'm like, you know, yeah, 652 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 3: like I love it all man, And yeah, I saw 653 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: him and I kind of was like on the lookout 654 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 3: for him for the whole night and then I couldn't 655 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 3: find him, and on my way out, I spotted him 656 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 3: and I went up. 657 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: And said hi. 658 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 3: I was like, Hi, I'm Anna, how good are you? 659 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: You know, because I've heard you say on your pod 660 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: you do not respond to like people sliding into your 661 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: d no. 662 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: You know. 663 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: My favorite was when you read like Matt and your 664 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: history and you're like, yeah, I didn't respond to that one. 665 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: Yes, more flames didn't respond to that. 666 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 3: I also didn't respond to that. 667 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: So good. 668 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I think like me and you were quite similar. 669 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 3: Like I don't know like if you're responding to Dan's 670 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 3: or whatever, but like I just like love like meeting 671 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 3: someone and getting their like vibes and energy and like 672 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 3: just feeling that. 673 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: You're super connected to your Like I feel like there'd 674 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 2: be a very spiritual side, do you as well. I'm like, 675 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: even the way you were saying, like even though you 676 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 2: don't feel like any therapist to be very connected to 677 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: yoursel and know when you need time out and know 678 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: when you need to be in nature and go to 679 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 2: buy them for a week of rain, you know. So 680 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: I feel so I've recording this podcast on. 681 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: Your last day in my rain. It's sunny outside. I'm like, 682 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: she could be at the beach ride now. No, I'm 683 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: so happy to be here. 684 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: Do you want just because you are a hopeless romantic 685 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: and I hope you got my mosses, but like, do 686 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: you do you want the like fam bam and all 687 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff as well down the track, Yeah. 688 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 3: I definitely see like in the next five years, like 689 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 3: settling down. But I feel like when when people say 690 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 3: settling down, that doesn't mean like I'm stuck and like 691 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 3: I can't do anything with my career because that gives 692 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 3: me anxiety, you know. But like settling down as in 693 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 3: like yeah, like getting a husband and like maybe having 694 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 3: kids doesn't mean I have to stay in the one 695 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 3: spot and like no, only be a mum. 696 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. 697 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: I wanted. 698 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: I kind of want to do it all. 699 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to send you a personal interviewed on this pot. 700 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: Her name is Urshula Carlson and she's a hilarious comedian 701 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 2: on have you been paying attention? 702 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: Had I think had a kid at forty three. 703 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, two kids, I think, but just really like change, 704 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: change careers to become like one of the most incredible 705 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 2: sound up comedy is. 706 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: At thirty three. Good. But you know what I mean, 707 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: there's no rules. 708 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: There's no rule, especially for entertainment industry, like where you're 709 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 2: the space you're kind of in. Did you love being 710 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 2: a judge on Bidding a Geek? 711 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 712 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so fun, like Sophie Monk was hosting 713 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 3: it to be like familiar territory. Yeah, yeah, because she 714 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 3: was the host of Lover. Yeah, so yeah, no, it 715 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 3: was it was really fun. But like, yeah, obviously the 716 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 3: standout of that night was meeting Mife of course. 717 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: Of course. 718 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: But I just mean as in, like if you went 719 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: into that more like entertainment, it sounds like you're comfy 720 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: in that space totally. 721 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, And like I just love connecting with new people 722 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 3: and like, yeah, I think that's why I would love 723 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 3: to do presenting, because I just I think that's that 724 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 3: I feel. Yeah, like I feel like warm when I 725 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 3: talk to people and it makes me happy, and I 726 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 3: love like exploring new connections. So I'll be looking out 727 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: for you and get away. I reckon, you'd be great 728 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 3: on because. 729 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: Then you get to travel again. And yeah, mate, just 730 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: let's manifest. 731 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: I got all the crystals out there after this, that's 732 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 2: what we're doing. Honestly, I'm so so pumped for you, 733 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: and I just I can't beg you enough for sharing 734 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: because I imagine, like being on Love Island means that 735 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 2: now your love feels like it's in the public eye 736 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: and I've seen you've already been papped and stuff like 737 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 2: that with Michael, Like it's pretty full on, right, Yeah, 738 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: how do you kind of like manage that? 739 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: You know? 740 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 3: I think it was hard initially, like when I realized 741 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 3: that the relationship wasn't right with Josh, Like we felt 742 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 3: like an incredible, like immense amount of pressure to stay together. 743 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 1: I remember your post yeah breakup. 744 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 3: The breakup, Yeah, and like, you know, me and Josh 745 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 3: went to therapy for the last like five months of 746 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 3: a one year relationship to try and hold it together 747 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 3: because we just felt like shit, like we won Love 748 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 3: Island together, we can't break up, but we both knew, 749 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 3: like we just knew it wasn't right. And then I 750 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 3: think after that break up, it was really difficult just 751 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 3: having people like messaging me on social media and keeping 752 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 3: me updated. 753 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: On what he was doing, and like vice versa. 754 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 3: It's just a lot of pressure and it's it's hurtful 755 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 3: to go through, especially like we all know how bad 756 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 3: going through a breakup is, Like it's awful totally, but 757 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 3: then that added pressure, Yeah, it just makes it super challenging. 758 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 3: And you know, I was going like I was seeing 759 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 3: a therapist maybe like two three times a week at 760 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 3: that point. 761 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: I was really like leaning therapy. 762 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and yeah it was hard. But then I 763 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 3: think my next like fear was when I did meet 764 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 3: Michael and I was like ship, Like I really like 765 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 3: this guy and like I could definitely like see a 766 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 3: future with him. 767 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: Then I was like, what's. 768 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 3: Every I'm going to think now that I have a 769 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 3: new boyfriend, and like you know, it's all of those 770 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,959 Speaker 3: things that play on your mind, like is it too soon? 771 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 3: Like it was I guess it was like a year 772 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 3: later that I announced it. 773 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah that's not too soon, but yeah, it's not too soon. 774 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 3: But then people were like a few people said, like, 775 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 3: you know, that's that's a bit soon, and I was like, is. 776 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 2: It You got to you gotta put your happiness first too, 777 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 2: as well, but also that in thanks for touching on that, 778 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 2: because I thought it would be so hard to feel 779 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 2: You're like, you're it's one thing having every move scrutinized, 780 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 2: but then like being hopeless roman. 781 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,959 Speaker 1: And loving love. You know, it'd be hard when you know. 782 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 2: That you want love, when you feel like you're finding that, 783 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: you also want to protect that too, And so it's 784 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 2: kind of I can And then you're kind of like 785 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 2: you want to shout it from the rooftops, but you're like, no, no, 786 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 2: but I want to keep this like special for me. 787 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 2: So I get there the pressure to put you under 788 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 2: My final question, I've kept you and we're going to drop. 789 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: You to the airport next. 790 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 2: Is for anybody that might want to be like, all right, 791 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: I think I can do this. I could go on 792 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 2: a reality show or like, what would your advice be? 793 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 2: Is it just like be real, have no filter, or 794 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 2: is it just like listen heaps of what the other 795 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 2: people are saying, because there's a little bit of manipulation sometimes, 796 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 2: like everyone's not going to be a legend. 797 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: There's going to be the odd dingo, which you might 798 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, what would your advice be? 799 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 3: I mean I think my advice is like, if you 800 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 3: go on to a reality sorry, if you're about to 801 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 3: go onto reality TV show, like your mental health needs 802 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 3: to be at a ten out of ten, like not 803 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,919 Speaker 3: a nine, not an eight, like ten out of ten. 804 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 3: I went on there so solid. I probably came off 805 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 3: about three out of ten. Like, it really is detrimental 806 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 3: to your mental health. It puts a lot of pressure 807 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 3: on your mental health. I think if you, like you've 808 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 3: decided that your mental health is like there and you 809 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 3: can cope with it, then I think my advice is 810 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 3: be real, because you don't want to look back and 811 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 3: be something that you're not. And maybe if you were 812 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 3: going to say something but you've kind of filtered yourself, 813 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 3: like sometimes like the best thing is just to be real, 814 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 3: like if you believe it and in your heart, like 815 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 3: that's right in the moment, I would go with it. 816 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 3: That's what I did, and it turned out, well, that's great. 817 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: That's so. 818 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 2: Actually I remember watching segments and you kind of got 819 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 2: put on the spot a bit. So if you'd be like, Anna, 820 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 2: how are you feeling, and I'm like, oh my god, 821 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 2: letter b thing like and you're like nervous. 822 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: And anxious, Thank you thank. 823 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 2: You for highlighting that basically, like and so you almost 824 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 2: don't even want to have a filter. You just want 825 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 2: to be like I can't. Yeah, balls to the wall 826 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 2: kind of thing, you know, like just go beat this 827 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 2: is me, like take it or leave it. 828 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: And totally I think that's never going to let you down. 829 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 2: But I thank you for sharing the vide about mental 830 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 2: health too, because I think you've got to be solid and. 831 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: Know who you are, yeah, right in anything. 832 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, if if you're if you're still figuring things out 833 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 3: or you know, a lot of the people who went 834 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 3: on there in my season, some of them were like nineteen, 835 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 3: They had no like sense of who they were. 836 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,439 Speaker 1: They were still working it out. 837 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 3: Like I remember one of the girls on my season 838 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 3: had only kissed one guy. The boys are coming in, 839 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 3: by the way, but I've just said they've been coming. 840 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,959 Speaker 1: I'm like, come in. What are they doing? They're going around? 841 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 2: They a little they the boys just just went for 842 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 2: a walk to see the koala as while we were recording, 843 00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 2: and now they're like. 844 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: Just chilling out the back together. I was excited me. 845 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 2: So, yeah, you were saying some people went in really 846 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 2: really young, and so like if you go in solid, Like. 847 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: You know, I was twenty seven when I went in there, 848 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: and I really like. 849 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 3: Had like a great understanding of who I was. And 850 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 3: I think like when you said that, it reminded me like, Yeah, 851 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 3: if you're a bit unsure and you're still trying to 852 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 3: figure things out, like it might not be the best 853 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 3: place for you to go. 854 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 1: That's such good advice. 855 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 2: So like know yourself, yeah, simply, And I think that's 856 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 2: the same. 857 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: We'd love to know yourself before you jump. Yeah, you're 858 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: the best. 859 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 2: Total honored to have you on the pod and having 860 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 2: me let's get you to the airport, my friend. 861 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 1: Sounds good. Let's not miss that flat. 862 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 863 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 2: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation 864 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 2: on Instagram. 865 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm at Yumo Lullaberry. 866 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 2: This potty my word for podcast is available. 867 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: On all streaming platforms. 868 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 2: I'd love it if you could subscribe, rape and comment, 869 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 2: and of course spread the love.