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Speaker 1: Joining us live from Canberra this morning is well. The

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Speaker 1: Member for Solomon, Luke Gosling.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Luke, Morning Katie, how are you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Good mate.

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Speaker 1: Since we last spoke, you've had You've been promoted your

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Speaker 1: Special Envoy to Wilford, Defense, Veterans Affair and Northern Australia.

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Speaker 2: What exactly does it mean.

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Speaker 3: I'm sort of the de facto Assistant Minister for Defense

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Speaker 3: and Veterans. Given that Matt Thistilthwaya did a great job

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Speaker 3: in that role, He's moved into a Home affairs role,

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Speaker 3: so I've picked up a lot of his duties and

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Speaker 3: I get a couple more staff down here in Canberra,

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Speaker 3: which gives me some more stuff up in Darwin and

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Speaker 3: in Northern Australia. Sorry, so working with Madeline King in

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Speaker 3: the Northern Australia portfolio, and because Madeline's down in Perth

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Speaker 3: and very focused on the resource as part of the industry,

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Speaker 3: as a chance for me now to be able to

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Speaker 3: get across Northern Australia and just get some economic development going.

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Speaker 2: Well, there is so much happening.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even yesterday the Northern Territory News reporting that

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Speaker 1: the US military activity is going to be ramping up

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Speaker 1: along the Northern Territory's coastline. More American bombers and fighter

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Speaker 1: jets set to operate out of the top end as

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Speaker 1: early as next year. Look what does this all mean

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Speaker 1: for us here in the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 3: Well, it means a lot more construction in our basing

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Speaker 3: areas because obviously we've got to accommodate additional personnel. People

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Speaker 3: might know that there's like over a billion dollars things

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Speaker 3: We've got to manage the impact on the residents of Catherine.

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Speaker 3: Obviously in housing is a big one there. But up here,

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Speaker 3: all of our bases are getting major upgrade, more accommodation

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Speaker 3: and so forth, which is part of just being ready

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Speaker 3: for a higher temp. I was exercising together. People might

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Speaker 3: have heard something about exercise Predators Run that held recently,

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Speaker 3: as well as Pitch Black, and we've got a naval

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Speaker 3: exercise coming up Kakadu, so lark here, there's lots of

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Speaker 3: construction going on. We just opened a new wharf there

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Speaker 3: recently out of Robinson. Bag's a lot of construction happening

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Speaker 3: out there. That's great for local jobs and local companies.

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Speaker 3: More local companies are getting a bigger chunk of this

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Speaker 3: defense work, whether it be paid for by our government

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Speaker 3: Then it was really good to see not only the

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Speaker 3: working with our fifty Italian which is out at Robson Barracks,

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Speaker 3: our infantry soldiers. And when they operate together, obviously they

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Speaker 3: become a lot more interoperable, and that's good for any

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Speaker 3: number of contigencies in the Indo specific including humanitarian assistance.

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Speaker 3: We just need to know each other's aircraft, we need

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Speaker 3: to know each other's logistics, and we're doing a lot

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Speaker 3: more joint logistics listeners down online. Down in our springs.

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Speaker 3: I'm sort of pushing for a bit of a logistics

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Speaker 2: That looks like or how are we going to get

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Speaker 3: Well, that's happening out it. They've set up down in Bandyana.

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Speaker 3: Down there, all we were Donger but a lot of

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Speaker 3: the people that I'm talking to, you know, really realize

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Speaker 3: of course any increase though I've heard rumors about massive

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Speaker 1: And so is that being discussed at this point in

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Speaker 3: Now those discussions are ongoing. US has made a deliberate

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Speaker 3: That becomes difficult, obviously, because you know, they've got security

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Speaker 3: But they've realized that we also need to make sure

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Speaker 2: Hey, Looke, I want to ask you.

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Speaker 1: I know it's been reported this morning by the ABC

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Speaker 1: he made some controversial remarks about Taiwan as.

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Speaker 2: Ridiculous is what she said.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: He spoke obviously to seven thirty last week. He described

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Speaker 1: What did you make of his comments?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just thought they were wrong in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: really I visited Taiwan recently and they're very proud of

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Speaker 1: And I always find it interesting when former prime ministers

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Speaker 2: So I do think whatever happened to.

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Speaker 1: Sort of retiring graciously is a question that I've got

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Speaker 2: But looke, I'll move along because I.

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Speaker 3: Do want to ask you a contribution, yes.

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Speaker 1: But you know, but yeah, I agree, definitely making a

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Speaker 1: interesting then when they're out sort of commenting on different

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Speaker 1: whether it's on a federal scale or a territory scale,

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Speaker 1: when they're no longer receiving the briefings in the way

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Speaker 3: That's right, Katie. I think sometimes they might get a

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've heard of that. I have heard of that. Hey, Luke,

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Speaker 1: I know that there's a lot of discussion in Camber

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Speaker 1: They're being bargained over, is what's being reported inside Labour's caucus.

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Speaker 1: As the Prime Minister has warned that a misstep could

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Speaker 2: Where is this all going to land?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we take it the issue very seriously. Gambling

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Speaker 3: does cause harm. We know that. We're talking with a

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Speaker 3: We do need, though, and we will the advertising of

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Speaker 1: Look, just one last one before I let you go.

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Speaker 1: I understand that September actually marks the twenty fifth anniversary

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Speaker 2: I understand it. What's planned from what you know so far?

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Speaker 3: Catie, in my new role of the Minister for Veterans Affairs,

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Speaker 3: That's starting at six o'clock sharp to get there before

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Speaker 3: Ourselves running a commemorative service there. There's services in different

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Speaker 1: Now, Luke, just one quick one from on of our listeners,

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Speaker 1: Paul has been in contact wanting to know if Albo

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Speaker 1: Tracy Memorial.

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Speaker 1: I think you've told me before that he's potentially going

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Speaker 3: it was important to us to get that commitment towards

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Speaker 3: you know, physically and recognizing that significant milestone fifty years.

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Speaker 3: So the Prime Missy will be coming up for that

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Speaker 3: and he is looking forward to it. And I've just

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Speaker 3: got to give another quick update Katie. Last night he

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Speaker 3: You and I have talked about that before. In fact

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Speaker 3: What we've done now though is with a niner side

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Speaker 3: were supported by Beaver Breweries.

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Speaker 1: That good on them for having the AFL mean that

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Speaker 1: we got rid of the breakdowncing had the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Is that what the plan is?

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Speaker 3: I met with some Indonesian parliamentarians yesterday and gave him

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Speaker 3: a little kangaroo hop at the end because they were

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Speaker 3: remarking on how wonderful they thought it was.

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Speaker 1: You'll be able to go to the Olympics now you've qualified.

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Speaker 3: Gangaroo jaatie I reckon I I won had done any good,

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Speaker 3: but well many would.

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Speaker 2: Many would argue you our olympian didn't either.

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Speaker 1: And Looke will leave it there, mate, I don't expect

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Speaker 1: you to comment on that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your time. As always, thank

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Speaker 2: you