1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: Oh, now it makes sense. 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Wednesday, 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: the twenty eighth of January. I'm Zara Seidler. 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 2: I'm Billy fitz Simon's. 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: Since the last federal election, One Nation's popularity has been 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: steadily growing across the country. It's led to questions about 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: whether the party's leader, Pauline Hansen, could become Australia's Prime minister. 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: In today's podcast, we're going to explain why everyone is 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: talking about One Nation, what the polls tell us, and 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: whether or not Pauline Hansen can actually become the Prime minister. 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: So Zara, today we are talking about One Nation, which 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: is a political party that is led by Pauline Hanson. 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: I feel like my whole life, Pauline Hansen has been 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 2: someone that is always in the news and I I 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: do you know a lot of people are familiar with 17 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: her but maybe don't exactly know what her policies are 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: or much more about her other than she is always 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: in the news and in and around politics in Australia. 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: Do you want to just set out who is she 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: and what is One Nation? 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: Well? Billy, you just said there, then it feels like 23 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: your whole life. That's because she entered parliament before you 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: were born. Oh so quite literally has been your wife. 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm twenty eight years old, so I was 26 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: born in nineteen ninety seven. 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: So she yeah, I know what you were born in. 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: So she entered politics before then. 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, she entered politics in nineteen ninety six. So she 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: was successful in running for the Lower House in nineteen 31 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: ninety six. A year later, in the year we were born, 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: in ninety seven, she founded One Nation. So she was 33 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: an independent in the lower House when she was first elected. 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: She then created One Nation. I'm not going to go 35 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: through a very long career in politics, but safe to 36 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: say it's been up and down. She's been in Parliament, 37 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: out of parliament, Lower House, Upper House. She was in 38 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: jail for a bit. She was then released from jail. 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: So lots to Pauline Hansen. But I guess to just 40 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: give context to today. One Nation is a party, as 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 1: we said that she founded today it has four senators 42 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: and one Lower House MP. One Nation's policies are conservative 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 1: in nature. They're on the right wing of the political spectrum. 44 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: They include things like reducing the number of people allowed 45 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: to migrate to Australia each year. They want to limit 46 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: the number of countries whose citizens can move here. The 47 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: party's website says it's the only political party to question 48 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: climate science. They want Australia to withdraw from the Paris Agreement. 49 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: One Nation has a family tax policy which aims to 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: reduce the number of children attending preschool and encourages parents 51 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: to quote look after their own children, and it also 52 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: encourages homeschooling. I was just looking around on the website, 53 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: so I'm just pulling a bunch of different ones. One 54 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: Nation also says it's the only political party to have 55 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: held a free speech conference and has led nationwide protests 56 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: against what it calls government intrusion on this essential right. 57 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: So that just paints a bit of a picture as 58 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: to what One Nation today looks like. But it's been 59 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: around for a very long time. 60 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 2: So that's an overview of One Nation's policies that you know, 61 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: they've changed a little bit over time. But that gives 62 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: us a broad idea. Why are we talking about Pauline 63 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: Hanson and One Nation today. 64 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, So the reason we're talking about it is because 65 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: One Nation's popularity has just grown exponentially, especially since the 66 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: last federal election. So the reason we're talking about it 67 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: is because of a few opinion polls that have been 68 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: released lately. We had one earlier this month. It's news poll, 69 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: so that's commissioned by News Corps, that showed that One 70 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: Nation had overtaken the Coalition. They were at that point 71 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: together overtaking the Coalition for the first time ever. So 72 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: newspoll asked more than twelve hundred people who they would 73 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: rank first if they had to vote tomorrow in the 74 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: House of Reps. Twenty two percent of respondents said they 75 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: would vote for One Nation and twenty one sense said 76 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: they would vote for the Coalition. A lot more said 77 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: they would vote for Labor, but because the Coalition and 78 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: One Nation are both on the kind of same side 79 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: of politics, that was really really significant. And then yesterday 80 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: new media outlet Capital Brief also released polling that showed 81 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: One Nation leader Pauline Hanson had overtaken Susan Lee as 82 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: preferred prime minister. So the poll found Hanson ahead of 83 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: Lee by ten full percentage points, though both were solidly 84 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: behind current Prime Minister Anthony Albanizi. But all of these 85 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: polls are painting a picture. You know, polls can famously 86 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: be wrong. They have been on many occasions. Only one 87 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: that matters is the election day. But said, like a 88 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: true politician, this is this is significant. Our opposition has 89 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: always been either the Coalition or Labor and now we 90 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: have a minor party that is polling higher than the coalition. 91 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 2: One thing that I always think about these polls is 92 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: that they're not always representative, or they're rarely representative of 93 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: how people do actually vote on the day the question 94 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: about the preferred PM. How Australia's political system works is 95 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: such that on election date, no Australian is asked who 96 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: do you think the Prime Minister should be? So it's 97 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: kind of confusing because it doesn't actually reflect how Australia's 98 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: political system works, but it does give you a broad 99 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 2: idea of kind of how Australians are thinking. 100 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: It's just a popularity gauge more than anything. You're right, like, 101 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: you vote in your electorate. That's how we determine who 102 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: makes up the House of Reps. But it is just 103 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: an interesting snapshot into what the electorate is thinking and 104 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: feeling at any given time. 105 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: And so I've seen kind of I guess over the 106 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: past few weeks, I have seen comments online about Pauline 107 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: Hanson potentially being the prime minister. What can you tell 108 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: us about that? 109 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we had a chat yesterday about this because 110 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: I mean, there are a few things that made me 111 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: think about this. The first, on January twenty sixth, the 112 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: March for Australia rally, people would have seen photos and 113 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: images that actually came past our office. So we went 114 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: out and had a look at it, and I was 115 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: struck by how many signs there were saying Pauline for 116 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: Prime Minister. They were everywhere. There was also a lot 117 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: of One Nation paraphernalia, so a lot of One Nation colors, 118 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: T shirts, signs. But you know, there was probably i'd 119 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: say around two thousand people that walked past our office 120 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: or march past our office, and there was really a 121 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: lot of One Nation and Pauline Hanson's support among them, 122 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: and so there were people on the sidewalk having conversations 123 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: about that. And then also separately we had Karl Stefanovic, 124 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: who is of course a Channel nine journalists, have Pauline 125 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: Hanson as his guest on his new podcast. The first 126 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: question he asked her was would you like to be 127 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: the Prime Minister of Australia. 128 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: And what was her answer? 129 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: Her answer was that yes, she would love to take 130 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: control of the country for a little while. That's what 131 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: her answer was. 132 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: But this is what is so interesting and why we 133 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: have been talking about it in the office because again, 134 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 2: like I just said, the way Australia's political system is 135 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: set up is that she actually in her current role 136 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: as a Queensland senator, cannot be the Prime minister. 137 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: It's not as back and whight as cannot. Oh so yeah, 138 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: here's a fun fact. 139 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: Oh we have had this. 140 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: We have had one senator who was a prime minister. 141 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: Ah yeah, who His name was John Gorton. So he 142 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: became the prime minister after Harold Holt died. He went 143 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: swimming and didn't come back. At that time, he was 144 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: a senator and he was sworn in as Prime Minister 145 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: as a senator. But then he resigned as a senator 146 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: and ran in the House of Reps. So his prime 147 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: ministership was in the House of Reps. But he was 148 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: sworn in as Prime Minister while a senator. Because there 149 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: isn't actually like a rule that you cannot be in 150 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: the Senate. It's a convention. We've never had a Prime 151 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: minister come from the Senate other than old mate who 152 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: I just mentioned. 153 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I did not know that. I thought it was 154 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: a formal thing that the Prime Minister of Australia needed 155 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 2: to come from the House of Representatives. 156 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: No, so, I mean there is testament. It's just the 157 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: way it's always been. We have never had some come 158 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: from the Senate. So the way it happens, and let's 159 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: just unpack this for our listeners. So Pauline Hansen is 160 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: a Senator, she's in the upper House, and by convention 161 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: in Australia, the Prime Minister, as we've just said, always 162 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: comes from the lower House. So for Pauline Hanson to 163 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: become Prime Minister, let's walk through what that would have 164 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: to be. So she would have to first resign from 165 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: the Senate. Then she would need to stand for election 166 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: in the House of Representatives. If she were elected to 167 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: the House of Representatives, she would need to become the 168 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: leader of a party or a coalition of parties that 169 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: had a majority of members in the House, like Anthony 170 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: Albinizi is the leader of the Labor Party today. It 171 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: is only then that she could become Prime Minister. So 172 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: there are a lot of hurdles there for Pauline Hanson. 173 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: I mean, the next election is in two years time, 174 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: and I think the last part of the equation is 175 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: the biggest hurdle for her because I mean it's easy 176 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: enough for her to resign from the Senate and to 177 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: say that she's contesting a Lower House seat, but for 178 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: Pauline Hanson to be the l leader of a majority 179 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: party in the House seems fairly unlikely at the moment. 180 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: Because one Nation, my understanding is, currently doesn't have any 181 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: seats in the Lower. 182 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: House one one. But at the election they didn't. 183 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 2: They didn't, but Barnaby Joyce has since moved to one Nation, Yes, 184 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: resigned from the Nationals exactly. 185 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: So he left the Nationals and decided, I mean, after 186 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: a very long time, a lot of reporting and deliberation, 187 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: he did end up going to one Nation. So now 188 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: they have one one nation House of Reps MP. But 189 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about them having to have a majority. 190 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 2: Which is seventy six exactly, so they need seventy five 191 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: more in order to have a majority, correct or to 192 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: form a coalition. 193 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: Yes, So famously the Coalition is no longer at the moment, 194 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: So I mean, there is a world in which I 195 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: don't know, someone could negotiate a deal, they could form 196 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: a party with the National I don't know what it 197 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: could be, but nothing's impossible. But for you know, context, 198 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: Labor one ninety four seats at the last election, the 199 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: Coalition together one forty three seats, So we're a long 200 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: way off One Nation being kind of in contest with 201 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: those people. I guess what the opinion polls are telling 202 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: us though, is that there has been a really significant 203 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: surge in support for One Nation and that could lead 204 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: to them getting more seats at the next election. So 205 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: if Pauline Hanson wants to become Prime minister the work 206 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: begins today, that would be a real uphill battle for her. 207 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: I listened to Pauline Hanson's interview with Karl Stefanovic, and 208 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: she was realistic about the fact that, you know, becoming 209 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: the Prime minister would be there would be many hurdles 210 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: for her to get there. However, she did say that 211 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: at the next election, something that she hopes to achieve 212 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: is having the balance of power. Do you want to 213 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: just explain that for the listeners. 214 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is far more achievable or far more realistic 215 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: for her right now. So having the balance of power 216 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: would basically just mean that at the next election, if 217 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: either party weren't able to get an absolute majority in 218 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: both houses, they would need to rely on minor parties 219 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: or independence to pass legislation. And what Pauline Hansen's saying 220 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: is she wants the government of the day to have 221 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: to rely on her, that one nation would have the 222 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: balance of power to be able to either you know, 223 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: help or hinder legislation to pass. And she's saying that's 224 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: a far more effective way to hold the government of 225 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: the day to account. And I mean it's happened plenty 226 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: of times before. And it is also far more realistic 227 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: for her because, as we said, in the Senate, one 228 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: nation has four seats and it is harder for the 229 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: government of the day to have an outright majority in 230 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: the Senate. So we're talking about, say Labor having to 231 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: negotiate with one nation every time they had a contentious 232 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: piece of legislation. And she thinks that would be a 233 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: way for one nation's power and influence to really grow. 234 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: And that is something that the Greens often say that 235 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: they are chasing, yes exactly, but One Nation Greens, very 236 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: different minor parties. 237 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: Yes, very different sides of the political spectrum. And you know, 238 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: historically the Greens have had far more seats in Parliament, 239 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: but now One Nation is it's really increasing its popularity 240 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: and its influence. 241 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: Zara, thank you for taking us through that Ian cute Billy. 242 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: I love every time that you get to talk about 243 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: politics because your eyes just light up. 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