1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: It's twenty years on today from the Barley bombings, unbelievably so. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: And Peter Hughes is joining us from BALLEI. Good morning, Peter, Hey. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 2: Good morning. Good. 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: What is it like in Balley this morning? 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: Oh? A little bit overcast? Look a botor up and 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: about and Barley as usual, usual day in Bali. 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: Now, for those who are unfamiliar with your story, Pete, 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: tell us what happened to you on that day. 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: Oh? Look, I was in Patty's my club, around about 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: eleven o'clock and I silicide bomb went off next to me, 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: around me, and then I slightly tried to walk out, 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: and it's something I didn't know. And then second last minut, 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: which is how bomb out in front of the Sorry 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: Club which is about forty meters away. And then basically 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: it was all help breakwast and then it's just about 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: survival then and going through the process of not only 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: trying to look after himself but many others around me, 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: which it was just it was just hell on water basically, 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 2: It's just it was just a massive battle. 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, to feel like a battlefield. And pet did you 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: realize do you have any idea what had happened there's 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 3: what thoughts are racing through You minded that stage? 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: Oh, no idea. I thought it was a gas bottle 24 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: behind the bar, and I thought it was a gas 25 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: made in the front that exploded. So I had no 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: idea the whole time. It was all based on look 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: at that situation and a lot of people around me 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: dead and badly injured. So it was and it was 29 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: fire everywhere, so it was no panic, but it was 30 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: it was sort of you in terms of trying to 31 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: get out of the place. 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: Over the years, we've famously seen that shot of you 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: sitting outside the site after it happened, or you were 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: outside the hospital maybe at that stage, and you were 35 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: so swollen that a mutual friend we have didn't even 36 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: recognize you when he was watching the news. When did 37 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: you know just how badly injured you were? Considering the 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: way burns work. 39 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: Oh look, I no idea about burns, but I knew 40 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: that I was stuffering a lot, and you know, it 41 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: was probably not going to make it. And then I 42 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: had a girl that was with him at the time 43 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 2: that looked after me, Chrissy from her exact that just 44 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 2: did an incredible help to look after me. How I 45 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 2: mean life. She did everything she could and I could 46 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: just tell that desperation on people around her, and everyone 47 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: else was looking at me very strangely because I couldn't 48 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: see myself, but I just yeah, it's probably my last 49 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 2: parents to do anything. So yeah, I thought I was 50 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: going to die. And that was my message back to 51 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: a suddenly cred KT at the time, and back to 52 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: everyone back here in Australia. I was okay, but I 53 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: realized I wasn't. 54 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 3: You're talking you're talking it up? Ye had a lot 55 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: of people have spoken about that and saying you probably 56 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 3: didn't know, but you did, it was in your mind. 57 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 2: Yeah I did. Yeah, I didn't know. 58 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: I just I like, yeah, yeah, standable for you. 59 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 2: Boy. 60 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: So does it become more of a blur after that? 61 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: Then after you do finally get into some kind of 62 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: hospital situation and did you know when you were being 63 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: taken down to Darwin, Yeah, oh. 64 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you a whole lot. I wouldn't let anyone 65 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: put me to sleep, wouldn't let anyone touch me by Chrissy. 66 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: Yeah. 67 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 2: Whatever Christie brought to me, whether it was whether it 68 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: was water or some sort of saline injection, I only 69 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: trusted her. So basically by the time I actually got 70 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: evacuated to the Tempso Airport, we're all our If Australian 71 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: medical people turned up from the Air Force. That was 72 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: the only time I relac. 73 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: Pet. What's it like being in Bali today and we're 74 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: not talking about the weather or anything now for you, 75 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: how does it feel? 76 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: No? No, no, no good. It's We've got this ceremony 77 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: the next forty five minutes or so, and we got 78 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: to get there and just reflect and say my respects 79 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 2: to everyone that didn't make it home and also the 80 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: family that lost of loved ones and the people that 81 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: were injured, and and just just do that and be 82 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: a part of that. And then later on tonight they'll 83 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: do the candlelight visuals at the at the site in 84 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: opposite the Sarry Club and then probably have a couple 85 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: of cold Vintang and just reflect. But I'm not going 86 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: to make it sad day. I'm just going to make 87 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: it to day that it's been coming for a long 88 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: time and I'm glad it's here and now I can 89 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: move on. 90 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: All right, Mats. What's been harder the physical recovery or 91 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: the mental and emotional recovery. 92 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 2: Oh more, the mental and the emotional that gets me 93 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 2: all the time. I get on edge, and you know, 94 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: if I'm working harder i exercise, something seems to be 95 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: a lot better. But as soon as I don't, things 96 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: tend to kick in. So it's a battle every day. 97 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: But you know, I'm not the only one. A lot 98 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: of people battle with it. So I just just find 99 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: out what the triggers are and just move on. 100 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: I know, at the time, very sad side of it. 101 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: You asked your son to kill you because you were 102 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: in so much pain, and of course he wasn't having anything. 103 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: He wasn't having any pain. And you know, twenty years on, 104 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: do you sort of do you take something from that 105 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: to give to other people that are in terrible situations? 106 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: In terms of hope, I. 107 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: Just that's that's the word of hope. Ye you kick 108 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: the heype, going to see it positive about take the 109 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: distraction away from yourself and look at others, because there's 110 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: always someone worked off and in terms of where you're are, 111 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: even though you probably aren't yourself, but just look look 112 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: that as a process of what you need to do. 113 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's what I look Husually, we had a 114 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: discussion on my driveway this is that small perthy it's 115 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: us with work last year my drive when we're talking 116 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 3: about it, and you said to me on the phone, 117 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 3: I knew who you were, and you said Peter Hughes 118 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: were mate shaming fun on our radio mate Lissa as well, 119 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: that we know you wealth I've lost and we had 120 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: we had a discussion. Yeah, we had it. Yeah, we 121 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 3: had a discussion that day about how busy you were. 122 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 3: I take it you're talking about when you're busy. That's good. 123 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 3: So you weren't sad about the business being busy, but 124 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: probably part of the thing to take your mind of 125 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 3: other things. 126 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: Yes, that's it. Just that seems like when someone wings 127 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: about something. Yeah, I just laugh. Yeah, this is real. 128 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: This is real. It's how we live our lives. So 129 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: I really understood what the life is on. It wouldn't 130 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: be winding about nothing anyone. But I laugh at that, 131 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: and I think that's really well. 132 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: Pete. 133 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: We are very glad to be talking to you this morning, 134 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: and we hope that you have a very peaceful day 135 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: in Bali today. And thanks for chatting. 136 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: Oh, thanks guys, thanks a lot. I really appreciate its. Guys. 137 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 3: Petty Hu's from from Bali twenty years on