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Speaker 1: Now we know the Northern Territory Police have now arrested

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Speaker 1: a total of fifty eight offenders in relation to reason

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Speaker 1: to unrest in Whatever. So the local police members with

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Speaker 1: the assistance of Strikeforce Trident. They've also had the Territory

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Speaker 1: Response Group and the Catherine Criminal Investigation Branch. They've been

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Speaker 1: working together in an effort to quell some of the

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Speaker 1: unrest that's been experienced in the community for several weeks.

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Speaker 1: Now joining us on the show is Anti Police Commander

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Speaker 1: Terry Zang. Good morning to you, Commander.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 3: Lovely to have you on the show now. Commander.

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Speaker 1: I know police have been well, really busy and you

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Speaker 1: guys particularly out there in Whatever fifty eight people arrested

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Speaker 1: over the last sort.

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Speaker 3: Of week or so. Can you tell me a little bit.

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Speaker 1: More about some of the unrest that has been experienced.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Katie. Yeah, your relation to the ongoing community and

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Speaker 2: rest that has been going for a number of weeks,

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Speaker 2: We've deployed a lot of resources into that community and

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Speaker 2: I haven't done it up to date media release, but

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Speaker 2: in fact we actually have made ninety three arrests, including

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Speaker 2: eighty three associated with the recent community arrest and ten

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Speaker 2: people on active warrants and that has concluded our operation.

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Speaker 2: In what I we have now restored calm and stability

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Speaker 1: Wow, ninety three arrests, Terry, that sounds like some incredibly

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Speaker 1: hard work and it actually sounds like a lot of

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Speaker 2: Sense, correct, Katie, A lot of most all of our

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Speaker 2: police officers. They have done a fantastic job. And also

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Speaker 2: that also includes the judicial staff and the stuff at

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Speaker 2: the Palmston workhouse. It was a huge police operation, but

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Speaker 2: logistical challenges around moving remanded prisoners using air wings. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: everyone has done a lot of hard work to achieve

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Speaker 2: what we have achieved today.

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Speaker 1: Commander, tell me in terms of those ninety three arrests,

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Speaker 1: how many of those people or do you have an

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Speaker 1: idea like how many has still been remanded in custody?

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Speaker 2: The majority of them are still remanded. It's only a

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Speaker 2: small number of them received bail as they are facing

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Speaker 2: serious offenses. The majority of them either are still on

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Speaker 2: and as a result they have received a term of imprisonment.

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Speaker 1: So what kind of impact I mean, ninety three people

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Speaker 1: that have been arrested.

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Speaker 3: First off, what kind of ages are.

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Speaker 1: We talking here and have them like what have the

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Speaker 1: majority been men or some women?

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Speaker 2: The majority of them are men and the majority of

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Speaker 2: them are young males. But we do have you know,

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Speaker 2: it varies from seventeen year old to forty four, but yes,

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Speaker 2: you correct, the majority of them are young man.

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Speaker 3: Commander.

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Speaker 1: I know that often the police are not keen to

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Speaker 1: sort of give you know, some of those gangs notoriety.

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Speaker 1: But are we talking about people here that are part

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Speaker 2: No, most of them are just what I resident, Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: it is unfortunately a large number of people decided to

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Speaker 2: resolve their longstanding dispute using violence, and I just want

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Speaker 2: to reiterate that I don't see this as a success. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's a large police operation. We have arrested a lot

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Speaker 2: of people, but we can't arrest our way out of it.

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Speaker 2: Now we have provided that safe environment, it is time

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Speaker 2: for the community leaders to resolve some of those underlying

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Speaker 2: long standing issues to make sure we don't see this

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Speaker 3: Oh spot on.

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Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, Commander, I

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Speaker 1: would imagine you've got women, you've got children, You've got

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Speaker 1: people fighting in the street, houses being set on fire,

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Speaker 1: some of the terrible stuff that you've seen in recent weeks.

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Speaker 2: Correct, Katie, this has sound. The violence has caused a

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Speaker 2: lot of disruption to service delivery and it is those

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Speaker 3: Commander, can you just talk me through.

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Speaker 1: I know you won't have all of the charges in

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Speaker 3: Them all off. But what kind of things have people

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Speaker 2: The charges evolve around aggravated burglary, criminal damage to property.

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Speaker 2: Most importantly is to take part in the right that's

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Speaker 2: a common charge for those people who involved in the

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Speaker 2: harm and those so people engaging in miland conduct. It's

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Speaker 2: a wide range of charges associated with what you have

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Speaker 2: seen sort of in the recent weeks. And also I

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Speaker 2: do want to thank the community. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: have done the right thing. They've facilitated their family members

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Speaker 2: who were involved in those kinds of offending to surrender themselves,

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Speaker 2: hund themselves into the police. And also as we started

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Speaker 1: Terry, what kind of damage have you seen in the

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Speaker 2: Gone on, it's just the violence has been very destructive.

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Speaker 2: There are a number of houses got damaged, rendered them inhabitable,

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Speaker 1: I know you said just a moment ago as well

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Speaker 1: that long term stability it really is going to depend

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Speaker 2: This is not the first time that we have seen

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Speaker 2: these type of issues. In what I and from talking

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Speaker 2: and I urged the community to work together with each

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Speaker 2: takes that the community leaders need to have some positive

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess you know, that does take me

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Speaker 1: to that point as well, that had been made in

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Speaker 1: You know, at one point there had been one of

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Speaker 3: He you know, he'd.

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Speaker 1: Been arrested at that point in time, a key destabilizing

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you feel as though.

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Speaker 1: Now those destabilizing figures have all been arrested, you've got

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Speaker 3: Longer term sense.

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Speaker 2: I remain hopeful, and we are doing everything we can

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Speaker 2: to support the community to identify some solutions. And in fact,

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Speaker 2: this week there are twenty community leaders from what I

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Speaker 2: that presents an opportunity for the community leaders to start

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Speaker 2: those conversations and also learn from their counterparty in from

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Speaker 2: other remote communities in that Law and Justice group to

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Speaker 2: establish one and have some meaningful outcomes identified.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Terry, before I let you go, obviously you had

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Speaker 1: a surge job of police when this trouble started. Are

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Speaker 1: all those police still out there in whatever or of

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Speaker 1: some now come.

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Speaker 3: Back to Darwin.

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Speaker 2: There's still a large number of police in what I

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Speaker 2: it's actually one of the biggest remote police stations, and

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Speaker 2: we're going to maintain that ongoing capability. I won't go

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Speaker 2: into the details, but yes, it will be ongoing well,

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Speaker 2: maintain a large number there as well as some specialists

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Speaker 2: up again. But i'd all remain hopeful that some of

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Speaker 2: the instigators are already out of the community and the

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Speaker 2: community leaders are working hard to be able to maintain

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Speaker 2: what we have achieved well.

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police Commander Terry Zang, I really appreciate your

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Speaker 1: time this morning and thank you very much for keeping

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Speaker 1: us up to date with what's going on those ninety

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Speaker 1: three arrests. They're phenomenal numbers, and you know, hopefully that

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie and listeners, thanks.

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Speaker 3: So much, appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Terry