1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: On the line right now is Sean, who is the 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: owner of Salvatore's Cafe in the city. Good morning to you. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: Sean, Good morning, Katie, thank you so. 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Much for joining us. 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: Now. 6 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: I've got a sales pretty disturbed when I saw a 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: vision come out, I believe it was overnight or I 8 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: certainly just saw it this morning, but from New York 9 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: cafe of a huge group of young people well just 10 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: sort of being very disrespectful and running a mark in 11 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: the city. 12 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: They were That was about seven thirty last night, But 13 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 2: I think they they're normally around a little bit, so 14 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 2: it's not the first time we've seen them, and it's 15 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: the same group. Within the group of twelve last night, 16 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 2: there would be six of them at least that are 17 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: normally around, causing disturbances, stealing from shops, harassing people in 18 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: the CBD, whether it's at shops or just people around city, 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 2: that sort of thing. So they're not new to us, 20 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: and the police know who they are. 21 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: And so what were they doing? What were they doing 22 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: yesterday exactly, Sean. 23 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: So last night we'd written some take. We got those 24 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: little menu boards on top of our table, so we 25 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: went outside and said, look, we have our menu boards backers. 26 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: No one need to touch them. And they said, oh, 27 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: he didn't take them, he was just I said, now 28 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: I saw you on the video night you grabbed them off, 29 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: and YadA, YadA YadA. Then the kids started mouthing off, 30 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: telling us that you know, touch me, touch me, go on, 31 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: touch me, and I said, I don't need to touch you. 32 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: I just want my menu boards back. Yes, And there 33 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: was other tourists and a couple of locals that I 34 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: knew were saying to them, this is disgusting behavior. The 35 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: vial that was coming out of them and the threats, 36 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: and the tourists couldn't believe it. They said, what is this? 37 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: And I said, these are, unfortunately some delinquents that we 38 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: have to deal with. And then as they made their 39 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: way down the street, they started throwing their McDonald's coffee, 40 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: the drink cups I guess, of cocing things back towards 41 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: all of us and hitting a few people. And it's 42 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: just as I said, we know who they are, as 43 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: the police know who they are, but there's not a 44 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: lot of power apparently to be able to deal with 45 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: these lots. 46 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: Sean, what kind of impact does it have for you? 47 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: You know, when it comes to the everyday running of 48 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: your business, when you're having to deal with this condess. 49 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: We do have to be outside as much as possible. 50 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: There's a video on our Facebook page about I think 51 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: it's about a year ago of a couple in that 52 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: group trying to snatch a bag off someone just sitting 53 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: on a table minding their own business. So we don't 54 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: know what the answer is. The kids obviously have some 55 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: idea what their powers are. The police have told me 56 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: we're permitted to physically protect ourselves, protect our business, protect 57 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: others that might be in trouble, as long as we're 58 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: appropriate with the amount of force that we use is appropriate. 59 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: But really, I mean, they're kids, and what do you 60 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: do with the kid. I'm six foot two and some 61 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: of these kids are four foot nothing, and so it 62 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: wouldn't take much to be inappropriate, I suppose. But I 63 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: don't know what the solution is. And I know the 64 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: police are very sympathetic. They would love to do whatever 65 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: we can do. But I have a feeling that as 66 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: a community we need to make changes and what we 67 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: deem appropriate. And what I kept saying before the last 68 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: election is ask your politician, what are you going to 69 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: do today. I'm all about diverse and I think we've 70 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: got to do something. What are we doing today? Yeah? 71 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: And Sean taking that into account, I mean, what is 72 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: your message for the government, What is your message for 73 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: our elected leaders? At this point? You know, when you 74 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: think about what you are dealing with, even like you said, 75 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, someone trying to sit down and have something 76 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: to eat and somebody attempting to steal their bag. 77 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. So I'm on very good terms with Paul 78 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: Arnold and conbut stylists and Paul Kirby, and I'm going 79 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: to reach out to them and say, listen, boys, I'm 80 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: sure you want to do something. I'm sure you want 81 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 2: our community to be a lot. We've done so much 82 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: to beautify it and improve it. This is undoing it. 83 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: So let's all sit down and let's say, listen, what 84 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: are we going to do. Let's invite the police and 85 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: they say what what? What's our goal? What are we 86 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: going to do here to clean this up and make 87 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: our city what it should be. It's a beautiful city. 88 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: Some nights it is so lovely here and I'm thankful 89 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: to be here. But when this sort of stuff happens, 90 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: we just got to look at ourselves and say, what 91 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: are we doing? Yeah, why can't we stop? This is 92 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: such a problem that we can solve. Why aren't we 93 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: doing that? Well? 94 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: And we have for anybody out there listening who does 95 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: want to see what unfolded last night. That video that 96 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: you shed on the Salvatore's page, we've just shed it 97 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: on the Mixed page as well, so people can get 98 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: a bit of a better idea, you know, Sewan, Even 99 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: just a little bit earlier, we caught up with the 100 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: Lord Mayor and I did ask him about whether he 101 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,239 Speaker 1: was aware of this situation, but he also spoke about, 102 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: you know, even the palm trees at the end of 103 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: the mall near Pass Paley, they're having the you know, 104 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: having the wires cut on the fairy lights, and you 105 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: just go, why why, you know, why can't they just 106 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: do the right thing by each other? 107 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. And look, we do see a little bit 108 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: of that. And look even the other day, probably another problem. 109 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: There was a young lady of this group who had 110 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: one of those aerosol can and she was sniffing it 111 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 2: and I stopped them, and I wasn't rude to them. 112 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: I said, listen, you know, you shouldn't be doing that. 113 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: That's really bad. And they just told me to get lost. 114 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: It's none of my business, and I said, it is 115 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: my business. You're right on my corner. You're walking past 116 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: the things out me open, you're sniffing it. Yeah, come on, 117 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: and your friends should be telling you this is really 118 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: bad for yourself, and they're telling me that knock off. 119 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: It's none of my business. And I know there's people 120 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: in the community that do care. We do try, yeah, 121 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 2: like the mayor with his lights. We do try, but 122 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: we just don't understand. How do we fix this? 123 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? And you know, I think that you hit the 124 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: nail on the head earlier when you said we as 125 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: a community do need to stand up and say that 126 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: it's not acceptable. And I think that you know, we 127 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: are all saying that. But then when you watch this 128 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: vision and you see this kitty looks buddy young, you know, 129 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: throwing something, and you just think, oh, come. 130 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: On, exactly, And like I said, you know, like yourself, Katie, 131 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 2: we're a lot bigger and a lot smarter than that. 132 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: We don't need to get started into that sort of behavior. 133 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: But how do we fix it? Yeah? And I don't 134 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: have all the answers. I hate going with a problem 135 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 2: without an answer. We may have to look at some 136 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: other places how they fix it, but we need to 137 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: do something because this is unacceptable. 138 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, Sean, I really appreciate your time this morning. I 139 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: know you're a busy man with a wonderful local business, 140 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: and I really appreciate you taking the time to have 141 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: a chat with me. 142 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, thanks for reaching out. 143 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: Thank you and that number if you are kean to 144 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: call through this morning eight nine four one one four nine. 145 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: And we have just shed that vision up on the 146 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: mixed one oh four nine Facebook page. Joanne said, why 147 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: would they care? They get away with earth? Where are 148 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: all the politicians and members mentioned in this? Dan said, 149 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: that's disgusting behavior, but they know that there's no consequences. 150 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: But as you've heard there, as Sean had said, I 151 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: think we are all as a community, we are all 152 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: pretty sick of this kind of thing. And it does 153 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: look like even in this vision, you know, you've got 154 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: other adults there trying to tell them, don't behave that way, 155 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: don't do that, and trying to tell them to, you know, 156 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: stop what they're doing and move on. But then you know, 157 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: even where you can see a woman sort of trying 158 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: to talk to these kids and say stop it. They 159 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: then continue throwing things and behaving in a manner which 160 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: is totally unacceptable