WEBVTT - ASK UNCUT - When it comes to casting for reality TV, how far is too far? 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:22.239 Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.799 un Guard. I am Britney. Laura is sitting next to me. 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:25.800 I'm introducing her. 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:26.720 That was Weirs. 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:27.920 I'm yeah, because I'm on a roll. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:30.160 We are coming to you today from a very very 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:30.920 special place. 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:35.080 We have migrated our recording to not Laura's bedroom, to 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:38.680 not my more professional lounge room, but to my bedroom. 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:40.040 We ah, we're getting saucy. 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:42.760 We are absolutely not getting saucy. 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.559 We're certainly not getting saucy. We usually he's a bit 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:48.040 of like hot news for everyone. You clearly will not 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.239 care about this moment. Hang anyway. We have migrated from 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:54.320 recording in my bedroom because we can't anymore because there's 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:57.440 two children running around like wild feral beasts. And we 0:00:57.640 --> 0:00:59.880 usually record in Brittany's lounge room when we need to 0:00:59.920 --> 0:01:03.160 be more professional. Yeah, but we can't because somebody's outside drilling, 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:05.600 so here we are. Brittany is also so close, like 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:08.319 where she lives is so close to the ocean that 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.319 everything kind of smells seaweedy. I'm not sure if you 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:11.959 can tell. 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:13.160 I think I just wet carpet. 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.480 Either. Your whole apartment smells seaweedy. Or if it's like 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.319 we can say it's because you're ambiently that close to borobee. 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.360 Yeah, I'm very close, and it has been raining for days. 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:23.880 I feel like I just probably have wet carpet. But 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:25.560 I'll put some in sense around next time. If I 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:28.400 knew you were coming in, but not that long ago. 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:31.160 A few weeks ago, I actually, for the first time ever, 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:35.080 was invited on another podcast as a guest. Now, before 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.000 we get into this, why does no one want us 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.440 on their podcast? Why has no one ever fighted you 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:42.399 and I on the podcast? Like we have someone different 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.080 in every second week, but no one wants. 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:45.640 To talk to us. I've been speak yourself. I've been 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:47.800 on a couple of podcasts. Okay, actually, let me rephrase that. 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:52.800 No one wants me on their podcast anyway, That's not 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:54.480 what this is about. This isn't a whoe is Why 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.440 won't anyone speak to Britney. I went on this podcast 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.000 and I went to their office and it just really 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.080 made me reassess some of my life choices. I walked 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:05.680 in and I was gobsmacked. It was the most beautiful building. 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.400 It was all glass. It was immaculate. They had this 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:12.079 big glass office to themselves. They had somebody else working 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.359 from them, a lovely older lady that came in with 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.799 a beautiful tea and biscuit in a really nice teapot. 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:19.720 She's like, what else can I get you? Sparkling or still? 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.480 And I was like, oh my god. When a guest 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:24.840 comes to my house, they come into my laund room 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:26.960 and I'm like, just fight your way through my plans. 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:28.880 Sit here on the ground here. I prepared a cushion 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:30.720 for you and that's it. And I was like, what, 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:32.680 I don't know if we need to up our game. 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.560 We don't need tea, they don't need a chair. We 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.520 can we don't need a desk. I'm quite happy here 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.200 with a pillow propping up this microphone. Anyway, if you 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.160 are new to the podcast, welcome, Sorry that you know. 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.440 This is how we started the episode. But we are 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.080 doing ask on cut today, which is where you guys 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:52.000 write in. You write in all your life dilemmas. You 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:55.480 write in the big problems, the small problems, the ridiculous problem, 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:59.200 wild problems, and we give you our life advice and 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.240 we try and answer them for you. We try to 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.320 come to some solution. But before we get. 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.920 Into that there is something very problematic that we have 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.520 seen that we want to talk about with the new 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:11.680 married first Sight trailer. And now, Laura, you are the 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.720 married at First Site addict. This is your world, so 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:16.600 I want you to take it away, tell us what 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:18.800 this issue is with the new twenty twenty two married 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:19.680 a first Site trailer. 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:23.360 This is your world. Yeah, guys, whole I have nothing 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:25.280 going on in my life, and we all know that 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.400 The Bachelor is about to finish soon, so all I'm 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.560 doing is just sitting here waiting for the next reality 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:33.400 TV cycle. Actually, before we get into unpacking this whole 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.920 mass debarcle, we are going to be bringing out Batch 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.080 Uncut a day late this week. It is finale week, 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.560 so what better than to keep you waiting for an 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:44.880 extra day. So the Batchel on Cut episode is actually 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.200 going to be coming out on Saturday, not on Friday. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.120 Just a little hot tip on that one in case 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.560 you're in your library is looking for it at the moment. Okay, 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.040 so back to the other reality TV show. Okay, talking 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.520 about maths. I am a fucking maths die hard. I 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.960 thoroughly enjoy it. But there has actually been some new 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.560 that's come out about the twenty twenty two Maths, and 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:04.400 I have a few questions that I want to ask, 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:06.640 So just to give you guys the rundown. There is 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.800 a contestant that was cast on the current season of Maths. 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.680 It's finished filming, it's wrapped up, and it will be 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.040 coming out usually. I think it airs in January. The 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.600 contestant who has caused a lot of controversy is named 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:21.000 Simon Blackburn. So, Simon Blackburn was one of the contestants, 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:25.240 and there have been some absolutely vile and horrific social 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.360 media posts from him that have come out since he's 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.920 been casted and since filming has ended. If you haven't 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:31.800 heard of the Wash, the Wash was the first to 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:33.920 report on it. They're a pop culture media house. They 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:37.200 have an Instagram page. It's great stuff. But basically they 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:41.400 have posted some resurface videos of Simon Blackburn, some of 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:45.160 his very homophobic views, some of his misogynistic views. And 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.000 I just want to play for you guys now a 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.680 little excerpt from some of the videos that they have 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:51.080 put up on their Instagram. 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.920 Guys, we'll just jump in a box. You're getting in AIDS. 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.120 If you are okay, you are getting it AIDS. 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:58.480 It's just disgusting. 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:05.120 It's like film actually sexual orientations. How is this? 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.839 So the ex just texts me and goes, can you 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.400 have the boys Friday night? Because I'm supposed to be 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:14.200 going away. I'm like, okay, I'm thinking you're fucking dreaming, mate. 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:15.920 I don't give a fuck what you're doing with your 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.720 new boyfriend, but ask your fucking mother. The only thing 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.440 I'm going to be doing Friday night, lads, is focusing 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:25.200 on Karma, sutra and meditation so that when my cock 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.920 enters this bird's mouth Saturday morning, I don't last thirty 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:29.839 fucking seconds. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:33.080 I'm shooting Saturday. The last thing I'm fucking doing is 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.720 changing fucking nappies and worried about where this fucking retard 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.599 is because she's probably gone down a fucking god knows 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.440 fucking cocker tool or some shit to go to some 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.080 fucking B and B to fucking get the back taken 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:45.480 out of her. 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:45.599 All. 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.760 Not in the day, I used to be like, oh, 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:49.719 keep a bitch at home, mate. I had that the 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.640 cunts do fucking nothing, sit on YouTube all fucking day. 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.000 So if you've if the twenty twenty one world means 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.280 that we I've got to fucking chip in, help out 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.680 with the kitchen and stuff like that, bitch might as 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.320 well make some fucking money. No point having that sit 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.839 at home all fucking day. You come home bust in 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:07.560 your ass all day, and then you've got to chip 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.159 in and do everything as well. The only time we're 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.800 going to fucking chip in is that cunt makes fucking money. 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:15.119 I know that for a lot of people that would 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:18.560 have been very difficult to hear because it is so, 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:23.280 so incredibly offensive. My question here is how is it 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:27.280 okay when doing casting and when putting together the new 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.239 season of Married at First Sight? How is it okay 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:35.159 to platform someone who has such wildly problematic views. Now, 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.080 I will just quickly jump in and say that there 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.200 has been a lot of backlash since these videos surfaced, 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.200 and Channel nine has said that they're going to work 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.240 towards removing him from the current season as much as 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.960 they can, because obviously the season has finished filming. Whether 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:51.200 that means he'll be removed in its entirety or just 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.400 he'll get minimal screen time where yet to see. But 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.359 the question is how do you get cast in the 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.480 first place when you are someone who has such problematic views. 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:03.520 When you you are so dangerous in your ideologies, how 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.680 do you get platformed on reality TV? Because we are 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.680 not overreacting when we say are some of the most 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.880 discussing videos you've seen. The thing is people cry out 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.640 that they want drama on reality TV? But where is 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:15.240 the line? 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:19.640 Because this person has one hundred percent gone too far? 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.040 Channel nine casting this person has gone too far. Now 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.440 Channel nine have said that they didn't realize that his 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.600 thoughts were so prominent. They didn't realize he was like this. 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.800 I mean, that's rubbish because casting do a deep diving 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.240 to every person they cast. That's why they cast them. 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.000 They know everything about them. They know if there are 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.280 any connections, they know what their political views are, they 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.360 know what their beliefs are. The whole reason you were 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.720 cast on a show is because you're either there to 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:43.960 be the really normal person that's going to have a 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.120 successful relationship, or you're going to be the one that's 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.640 there for controversy and drama. I don't believe for a 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:51.040 second that casting agents said they didn't know, because it 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:52.760 takes you two seconds to look on his page to 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.640 find it. So unless they cast him blindfolded, they knew 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:57.680 what it was about Channel nine and have now come 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:59.960 and said that they are going to try and work 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.120 towards removing him completely. But they've only said that They 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:04.960 obviously didn't think that they were going to remove him. 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:06.600 They didn't think that the response was going to be 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:08.680 at the level it was. Otherwise they wouldn't have put 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:10.440 him in the trailer and advertise they would have already 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.320 cut him out. They have said that they're now going 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:15.360 to cut him out purely because thousands of people have 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.800 already said I'm done not watching the show, like this 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.480 is the most ab horrent behavior. I'm done, and this 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.440 is their response. So I don't know, is it a 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.160 bit too little, too late? Do you think that they've 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:25.800 just shot themselves in the foot by doing this? 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:27.720 Well, I guess the issue that I have is, like 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.160 every year there seems to be someone who plays that 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.280 misogynistic role. Like every year the characters on Maths get 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.280 a little bit more controversial, they get a little bit 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.360 more wild in their belief systems. But at what point 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.920 does that cross the line and become quite dangerous? And 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.160 you know, when we put someone on a reality TV show, 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.280 whether or not they are there to cause controversy, or 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.400 drama to be the villain or whether they're there to 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.600 have the genuine love story. We're still platforming that person, 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:57.080 and if that person's views are misogynistic or they're homophobic, 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:59.960 that can do a lot of damage to reinforcing other 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.160 people who were out there in society who had those 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:05.680 same views. They feel reinforced that there are other people 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.560 who believe the things that they believe. I mean, what 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.520 you just said, Britt, you absolutely hit the nail on 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:12.840 the head when you're like it's one thing to say 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.920 that they didn't know. That is the whole purpose. That's 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.439 the whole reason why this person was cast is because 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.480 they were cast to be that controversial character. But there 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.080 definitely has to come a line where not only is 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.520 it problematic for the viewer, but there also has to 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.680 be a duty of care to the other contestants in 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:32.480 that season. Because some woman has signed up to be 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:34.840 matched with a man, and she's been matched with a 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.240 man who has such vile views against other women. 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:41.760 Well, this is the thing too, because okay, apparently rumor 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.600 has it, and we're not going to know obviously until 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.280 we see the show, but rumor has it. Simon lasts 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:49.160 on the show for about two weeks. We're never going 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:52.240 to know exactly what his time on the show was like. 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.760 If he was expressing these views strongly for the two weeks, 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:56.720 We're not going to know, because it seems like he's 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.640 done and dusted. Channel nine or eight. Well, we went 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:00.760 too far, we'll cut that out. One's on board. 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:01.520 But also I. 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.600 Don't know what person he was matched with for that 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.360 two weeks. But if he gets wiped out, does this 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:10.600 other poor person get wiped out as well as collateral dammage? 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.120 Does that just ruin the whole show for them? Only 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.640 three hours ago, the Wash released another post. Now Simon 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.840 has responded. Simon has contacted the Wash. This is only 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:20.880 three hours ago that the Wash posted this as a 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.640 follow up after their original post. So the original post 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:27.040 from the Wash was a swipe series of clips that 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:30.360 they had taken from his own TikTok and Instagram, from 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.560 other people's TikTok and Instagram, but they're all of Simon. 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.400 Simon messaged the Wash and just said, can you remove 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:37.400 your latest post? 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:38.440 That is it? 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:40.440 Then he proceeded to say leave the past in the 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.120 past with a beer emoji. That was it. And so 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:46.000 the Wash has just said, following on from our last post, 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.079 he has now responded asking us to take it down. 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.719 But there was no apology, no accountability or anything like that, 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:52.960 just to comment with a beer emoji, a six word 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.200 private message to us, and a random post to his 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:58.480 personal page, appearing to play the victim because he has COVID. 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.200 Well, one extra thing he did say, which I saw 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.079 this morning as well, was that he said, these posts 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.000 that have been collected, this carousel that was put on 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.760 the wash is a collection of videos from over six 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:12.240 months ago, and they're not my current views. How does 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.199 your opinion on life change so dramatically in six months? 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.600 I think, you know, I do believe in this idea 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.319 that you know, we can learn and as people, not 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.760 necessarily things that come up from ten years or fifteen 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:24.760 years in the past. We can be very different people 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.440 to who we were back then. But six months is 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.240 not a big enough timeframe. You still need to be 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.880 accountable for your actions from six months ago. Just one 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:33.760 other thing I want to add on this now. Something 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:37.000 we discussed earlier this year was doctor Tricia Stratford, when 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.040 she was one of the relationship experts. She left the 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.480 show on the current season so on twenty twenty one 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.559 season she wasn't on there and she was replaced by 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:49.200 Alessandra Rippola. Now, when Tricia left, originally she said she 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.640 wanted to go and focus on her writing and focus 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.040 on other academic endeavors. However, she later came out and 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.480 said to media, by the end of my time on Maths, 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:01.040 I couldn't compromise my professional and personal stay because there 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.640 were participants on the show who I felt shouldn't have 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:07.280 been there. Now, this new casting of Simon Blackburn just 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.640 goes to reinforce that there are some very very problematic 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.960 ways in which reality TV are cast, in particular Maths. 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:15.440 And the reason why this struck me and I was like, 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.680 I really want to talk about this is because Maths 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:21.760 is the biggest reality TV show in Australia. It commands 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.520 the most eyes. And we've seen this on The Bachelor 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:26.480 this year that there's been this real pull away from 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.680 The Bachelor, and I feel like The Bachelor has almost cast. 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.439 There's been so little drama, there's been so little controversy. 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.880 Everything has been very politically correct and as much as 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.160 we have said and the public have said that that's 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.080 what they want to watch, the ratings would suggest otherwise, 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.920 And when the bachelor is going in one direction to 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.440 try and cast the least amount of drama and the 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.080 least amount of controversy. On the flip side, we have 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.400 Married at First Sight, which is only ramping up the 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.720 drama and the controversy. It makes you question what is 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.560 it as the viewer are we wanting to consume? What 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.040 is it that's keeping us hooked on reality TV? 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.360 Yeah, and I mean we all love some drama, but 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:05.960 as long as it doesn't get to the point where 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:12.080 it's hardcore bullying or dangerous views. But casting somebody like Simon, who, 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.160 even if he has said he has changed his views 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.800 now we have to take that at face value. But 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:20.680 who only six months ago was a homophobic bigot is 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.920 toxic and dangerous. And to put that on a platform 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.600 as big as Married at First Site in Australia, and 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.199 knowing that Married at First Site also gets picked up 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.120 in the UK, like Married First Site Australia is huge 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.240 over in the UK, and I don't know, maybe America. 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.119 We're not sure what's going to happen, But voicing somebody's 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.480 opinion that is that dangerous and toxic at that level 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:44.040 should never ever be happening, especially not in twenty twenty two. 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.320 So I'm very disappointed. If he gets any airtime, I 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:47.520 will be extremely disappointed. 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.160 Pretty's gonna come for you. I am right on Britdie's like, 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:51.920 I am very disappointed in you. 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.280 I'm not mad. I am disappointed. No, but it's just like, 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.760 it's almost like, how is it still happening? We need 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:59.760 the drama in these TV shows. People love it, but 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:01.679 we've got to find a happy medium of drama where 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:03.760 no one's actually getting hurt, no one's being bullied, and 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:05.320 we're not voicing toxic views. 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.120 I one hundred percent agree. And there has to be 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.080 a fine line where there is a duty of care. 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:10.800 That's the big thing in this Well, you. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.840 Know you've crossed the line when an old contestant voices 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:14.360 their opinion. 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:14.480 Now. 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.480 Tracy Jewel, he was from season five, actually commented on 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:20.040 the original post from the Wash where all the videos 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.600 were shared of Simon. She'd just said, where are the 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:26.200 background checks on these people? It is putting other participants 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.880 in potentially dangerous situations. Where is the duty of care? 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:31.880 Yeah, and I think falling back on the whole Oh, 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.600 we didn't know we'll do better next time. Like that's 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.520 your job. It's your job to last people. And you know, 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.520 I think, like exactly what you said in the beginning, 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.760 bred the people have been cast because of what they 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.640 bring to the table. And if we're casting people because 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:48.840 they bring misogynistic, homophobic views, it is really really problematic 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:53.040 for all the reasons that we've already discussed. Anyway, guys, 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.160 let's get into the questions for today. We have some rip. 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.440 Black questions and you are going to kick start it. 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.400 I am going to kick that. Actually I have which 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.600 I'm gonna just surmise because it was a very long question. 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.960 But I think I think we can come with some 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.680 good advice to this one. So the person who's written 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.520 in she is in a real little pickle dickle. She 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.840 is currently trying to toss up between two different men. 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.800 Oh what a problem tab dat doing think? 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:18.160 I'm men. 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.320 I think I've ever had that problem in my life. 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.640 As if you've never had that problem, no way, like 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.960 you didn't have you haven't had two guys interested in 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:26.880 you at the same time, I. 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.680 Have never had two men fight over me in my existence, 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:31.000 nor do I think that would ever happen. 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:31.640 No, have you. 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.400 Yeah, Well, I mean, I mean I was single ten 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:38.800 years moving along. Yeah, I didn't have one man fighting 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:39.240 over me. 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.240 Well, this is like no, like you mean in early 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.160 dating days. Yeah, like you know when you like when 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.120 you're dating multiple people and you're kind of trying to 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:46.920 figure out who you want to date, and then maybe 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:48.600 you catch feels for two people at the same time. 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.760 Okay, so there's not two people like wanting to lock 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.840 it down and marry it. Tell me the question. 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:56.520 Okay. Basically, she's been dating these two different guys simultaneously, 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:58.200 and by the sounds of things, one of them is 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.000 from her past, so she has a deeper and more 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.840 long term connection with him. However, he's been a little 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.040 bit problematic in the past. She didn't go into detailed 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:09.120 flags mates and red flags, flansom flags. The chemistry is 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.440 bang on, you know, and that's the thing that makes 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:13.480 you keep coming back. It always is with the bad Boys, 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.160 it always is. So there's a new guy in the 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.160 picture as well. The new guy he seems I say this. 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:22.080 He's nice, he's sweet, he loves her, he wants to 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.160 he wants to look after her, he's reliable. 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.960 But she wants the bad Boys is it, well, it's not. 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.040 It's not so much that she wants the bad boy. Basically, 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.800 she has the option of two guys, two guys who 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:35.600 want to be invested in her, two guys who want 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.240 to pursue a relationship with her. Both of them are 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.760 making big, grand gestures of commitment, and one of them 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:44.600 is the safe bet, but her feelings are not as strong. 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:48.000 The other one is the risky guy, and her feelings 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.479 for him are really strong. Now, I have quite conflicting 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.280 feelings about this whole situation, But I want to know 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.640 what's your take. If you were in this situation where 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.560 you had someone who seemed like a sure thing or 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.880 somebody who maybe is a bit problematic but there is 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:07.080 a stronger pull, what would you choose or what advice 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:08.159 would you give to a friend? 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.919 I okay, I actually was in this situation. 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.280 I just forgot to hear the truth comes out now 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.840 it's like, oh, that's right. I definitely had multiple men 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:17.480 fight over me. 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:19.520 I forgot, but I blacked it out. But I actually 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:21.439 comes with a funny story which I'll I'll tell you 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:23.680 because it was pretty funny. Okay, So there was a 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.840 very very long time ago, and it wasn't necessarily that 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:28.199 two men were fighting over me, but it was that 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:32.040 I had the option. One was just like the most safe, amazing, 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.520 beautiful human and one was the sociopath that I had 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:40.000 this real heart deep connection in chemistry with or So 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.680 I thought, this is so funny. I was so beside 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:47.000