1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 2: That's on Saturday night, we saw the Labor Party winning 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 2: its first state election in sixteen years. After this historic win, 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: the man who emerges in your Premier elect is Chris 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: Mins joining us now. Good morning, Premier. 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: Elect, Good morning man, A good morning Jonesy. 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 3: Congratulations to you, thank. 8 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: You, thank you. Now I'm over the moon. I'm really 9 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: happy about it. 10 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 3: I was surprised how quickly it was all over. 11 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 12 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 4: I got home from the super bikes and my wife said, 13 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 4: it's late, but they've done it. 14 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: That was like at eight thirty. 15 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty pretty early. And like a lot 16 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: of these things, you're thinking to yourself, have they called 17 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: this too quickly? It could reverse itself as this like 18 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: a bad dream, But no, it was. It was good news. 19 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you managed to avoid the shoey. I know, 20 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: you made a beautiful acceptance of victory speech and then 21 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: someone they do with showey. You managed to casually avoid it. 22 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: I figured that the goodwill of the election could be 23 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: sort of undone in the first couple of minutes if 24 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: I did a shoey. It doesn't sort of scream responsibility. 25 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 4: But I think as well, congratulations for firstly on the victory, 26 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 4: but your your victory speed, which was I was just 27 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 4: watching saying this is the most humble but most normal, 28 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 4: real victory speech I've ever heard it. 29 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks James. It was quick and you know someone 30 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: told me once that it's never been said. Jeez, that 31 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: was a good speech. I just wish it went a 32 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: bit longer, so I figure less is more. The Gettysburg 33 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: address only went for a couple of minutes. 34 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: Well, you've made some pretty big promises to nurses, to 35 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: teach us to midwives. You've said we will resuscitate our 36 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: health system, fix the crisis in our schools and build 37 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: things here, so you've got to You've said you're going 38 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 2: to start doing this straight away, and people are going 39 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: to wait to see results, aren't they. 40 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And well, the voters of New South Wales, the taxpayers, 41 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: pay on results. Forget about the last election that is done, 42 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: and we know we've got immediate responsibilities, particularly about canceled 43 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: and merged classes in New South Wales schools and the 44 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: performance of emergency departments. I've just heard too many stories 45 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: on this election campaign and people going into ed's not 46 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: getting the help they need or having to wait hours 47 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: and hours. I know it's a massive hill to climb 48 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: and there are many challenges in New South Wales, but 49 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: for the last twelve years we could only say we 50 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: could never do and you can't accomplish too much with 51 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: media releases. It's great to get in there and do something. 52 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 3: What would you say? 53 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 4: And I read this in the paper today, some guy 54 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 4: right and said, well, right, New South Wales, we're. 55 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: Now going to go woke and we're going to go broke, 56 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: And that seems to be something that comes up a lot. 57 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: What would you say to someone like that? 58 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the way we approached the 59 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: election campaign it was very practical. We really listened to 60 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: the people of this state and I thought we were 61 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: closer to ordinary Australians. I'm not trying to make that 62 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: as a knock on the government, but after twelve years 63 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: you build up a lot of buffers and minders and 64 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: ministerial advisors, and the key to us winning this election 65 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: was that we don't have any of that. I mean, 66 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, Jonesy, we've I've got a small staff. My 67 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: MP's have gotten virtually no staff, at least for ministerial work. 68 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: So we were speaking directly to the people of New 69 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: South Wales and we were hearing about energy prices going 70 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: up and how difficult schools and hospitals were. That was 71 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: the key to our success on Saturday, and I've got 72 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: to keep that so you know, none of us are 73 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: going to have our head in the clouds or think 74 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: that we're too good for the people of this state. 75 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: We've got to be a very humble government because that's 76 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: how you get results. 77 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 4: And some of those liberal infrastructure projects, you can't really 78 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: stop those because they're going now. 79 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, And look, we've got an ambitious infrastructure program. 80 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: The contracts have been signed. We know that we have 81 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: to deliver them and the key the challenge here is 82 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: to do it in a responsible way. Out Look, the 83 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: big issue in this election campaign was rising cost of living. 84 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people listening at home and 85 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: saying our energy bill is higher today than it's been ever. 86 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: And you know, inflation in an economy means that you 87 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: work harder and harder and harder, but you feel like 88 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: you're getting further and further behind. That's the immediate responsibility 89 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: of us. Make sure that we're putting downward pressure on 90 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: family bills. 91 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: I liked. 92 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: On Sunday morning, your family went to a cafe for 93 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: some coffees and some hot chocolates, and your eldest son 94 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: us for a flat light. You said, maybe the premier, 95 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: but no, you're not having not having a coffee. 96 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one of our sons who's a stir 97 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: One of them peeled off and did an interview by himself, 98 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: which was unscripted. 99 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: That this is the Don Perrotet T shirt. 100 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: Whereas yeah, yeah, he decided that without telling us that 101 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: he was going to clear the record, and so he 102 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: gave his own impromptu media conference off on the side. 103 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: Could you see him following in your footsteps. 104 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: Well, based on his performance so far. No, No, they're 105 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: kind of interested in politics, but they're just normal kids 106 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: and we're all sort of caught up in the whirlwind 107 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: at the moment. But it's Anna and my responsibility to 108 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: keep home life as normal as possible as well. 109 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: Sure it must have been hell on the night when 110 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 4: you're just sitting there. I would have gone crazy. I 111 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 4: would have gone absolutely crazy waiting for that result to 112 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 4: come in because you put everything, yeah, all your eggs 113 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 4: in that basket, and all of a sudden it just 114 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 4: comes down to that. 115 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: It does, yeah, and you're just kind of bouncing off 116 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: the walls a little bit. But I was able to 117 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: clean my head and go for a long walk and 118 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: no one knew I was out of the house and 119 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: I didn't know, but I was listening to music and 120 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: the odd text was coming through. But yeah, you're right, 121 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: Jonesy's it's a bit nerve wracking and nerve wracking for 122 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: dom as well. There's a lot of people, you know, 123 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: particularly on election day, it struck me that there's literally 124 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: tens of thousands of people that hand out for Labor 125 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,799 Speaker 1: or the Liberal Party or the National Party or the Greens, 126 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: and they do it because they care about their country 127 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: or their state, and it's a good thing. It's our 128 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: democracy is strong, and we need to make sure we 129 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: don't get down that American road. Everybody just takes each 130 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: other's head. 131 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 4: Well, then you know, I found out it was my 132 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 4: local poling place and the Liberal guy and the Labor 133 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 4: guy was sitting in little lawn chairs next to each other, 134 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 4: and I would just like chatting away as if they 135 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 4: were at a backyard barbecue. 136 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: Was like that democracy song. 137 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 3: But it's good. Like in America where you have the 138 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: nutbag left in the nutbag. 139 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: Right. 140 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 4: We don't necessarily have that here, which is yes, and 141 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 4: I think largely because of you and Dom Perrote, so 142 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 4: thank you. 143 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 3: As a vot You've. 144 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: Got to work at it though, right, because it's very quick, 145 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: very quickly, it can just tumble in to personal attacks 146 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: and you question each other's motives. And one thing that 147 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 1: I didn't do and don didn't do in this campaign 148 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: is question why he was pursuing. I thought we should 149 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: go down a different road. He put out his platform, 150 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: so did I. But there was no low blows and 151 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: that's really important. There's a funny thing on polling day. 152 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: The number of people that walk up to the polling 153 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: booth often husband and wives, and they've just got this 154 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: ritual of canceling each other's vote out and then they 155 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: turn around, they go walk back home again. It's just 156 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: as old as Australia. It's great. 157 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: Can we leave the last word to Anthony Albanezi who 158 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: said there's going to be no filming of the consumption 159 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: of the sausage. No one ever looked good eating the sausage. 160 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: You know what, you ate the sausage really well. There 161 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: was a picture of you and you've done the hand 162 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 3: over the top. I think that's a real skill. 163 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: I think one of the journeys asked me, how are 164 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: you going to eat the sausage? And I said, like 165 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: a novel person, how do you do it? Well? 166 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: It was playing it like a mouth. 167 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: He was so determined not to take it from the end. 168 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: Look costing the election. Costing the election. That needs running style. 169 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: But other than that, that was yes. 170 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: Congratulations to you, Chris. 171 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 4: We look forward to catching up on the show and 172 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 4: working with you throughout the however long you're. 173 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: In fat I'll come on as much as you'll have me. 174 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: I love the opportunity. It was great during the campaign. 175 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: It's great to see both of you. Thanks Jasie, Thanks Amena.