Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to our second episode of a very
Speaker 1: outspoken Christmas Our summer series, and today we're joined by
Speaker 1: the incredible Amy Connor, better known on TikTok simply as
Speaker 1: Ames Now. Ames has over nine hundred thousand followers on
Speaker 1: TikTok and shares relatable content about her life as a
Speaker 1: nurse and Mum, we know you're gonna love this episode,
Speaker 1: so let's get into it.
Speaker 2: I love being interesting, I love being relevant, I love
Speaker 2: being funny. I love making people laugh. That's all about
Speaker 2: what social media and my content is. And I think
Speaker 2: that the reason I've got so many followers is because
Speaker 2: people feel that they see that, they see that I
Speaker 2: enjoy what I'm doing. It's a catch twenty two when
Speaker 2: you go viral, because it's like it opens you up
Speaker 2: to this dark web because it's just like you're old,
Speaker 2: you're ugly, your styles.
Speaker 1: Would of those things are true at all.
Speaker 2: Honestly, a lot of those negative comments actually fuel my content,
Speaker 2: and you've had a lot of engagement when you snap
Speaker 2: back in comments like that. So bring them on because
Speaker 2: they are actually feeding my content. They're making me more relevant,
Speaker 2: and they don't even realize that they do it.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us for Outspoken's Christmas special.
Speaker 1: We're so excited to have you on the show because firstly,
Speaker 1: we were shocked when we saw on TikTok that you
Speaker 1: were actually an Outspoken listener.
Speaker 2: Yes, I am, I love it. I love the show.
Speaker 2: Are you entertaining on my way to work? I just
Speaker 2: I couldn't do the drive without you guys. I love
Speaker 2: hearing a bit of Goths. I love being not being
Speaker 2: a part of the drama, but just like hearing about
Speaker 2: it and feeling like I'm in there. I think you
Speaker 2: guys delivered the news in a way that it's just
Speaker 2: so intriguing. And I don't know, there's podcasts out there
Speaker 2: that just kind of dribble, and you don't. You just
Speaker 2: get to the point and you tell it how it
Speaker 2: is and it's really entertaining. I love it, so thank you.
Speaker 2: Blew some wind up skirt there.
Speaker 1: Much appreciated because usually we have influences hitting us up
Speaker 1: in the dms, maybe not too happy with some of
Speaker 1: the content.
Speaker 2: Oh you haven't, but you haven't spoken about me. I nothing.
Speaker 2: I don't know, bad lut hey.
Speaker 1: Who are some of the influencers you follow? And I
Speaker 1: suppose maybe a line with because I'd love to know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean I love like the Sky Wheatley,
Speaker 2: the Indie Clinton. I love Lily Is it brown? Lily Brown?
Speaker 2: Is it brown? Yeah? Yeah, I love them babies. I
Speaker 2: love that she's just had a baby. I feel like
Speaker 2: she's just absolutely in her element right now, and I
Speaker 2: love seeing it because she just I know that she
Speaker 2: went through a rough time, you know, like with her
Speaker 2: mum and stuff. So I just feel like she's just
Speaker 2: found her like the meaning to life. I think, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know something about her. Her content
Speaker 2: has changed since she's had a baby, and it's just
Speaker 2: so wholesome to watch. I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I've been really enjoying her content more recently.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned Sky Wheatly. I mean we've been speaking
Speaker 1: about Sky a lot, especially her fox eye surgery and
Speaker 1: the thing about Sky's I agree. I think she's I
Speaker 1: don't think she has a bad bone in her body,
Speaker 1: but she's so controversial, Like every week there seems to
Speaker 1: be something that she's done that sort of sparked in
Speaker 1: I think it's because she's so honest and actually puts
Speaker 1: all the stuff out there. She doesn't hide a lot
Speaker 1: of what's going on in her life like other influencers too.
Speaker 2: That's and that's the thing, like when you get on
Speaker 2: social media, I feel like I've become quite numb as
Speaker 2: well to what I put out there because I don't
Speaker 2: really want to deal with the controversy and the hate.
Speaker 2: Where Sky she's just so brutally honest and it just
Speaker 2: tells it how it is, and I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 2: she's just she's so young too, you know, like she's
Speaker 2: just learning through like and she grew up on social
Speaker 2: media as well, so it's just I don't know, it
Speaker 2: is nice to see her grow and become a mum
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Last year, we predicted that she would be canceled again
Speaker 1: this year in our little end of Yew predictions and
Speaker 1: that I don't think that's really happened yet. If anything,
Speaker 1: I think that more people have celebrated her because of
Speaker 1: her appearance. I'm a celect yeah exactly. I think everyone's
Speaker 1: falling ye with her and I think everyone has a
Speaker 1: soft spot for her, like as the young girl from
Speaker 1: bing Brother that we watched, you know, ten years ago,
Speaker 1: but I mean away from Sky Wheatley. I don't know, Amy,
Speaker 1: what made you start your TikTok because it started blowing
Speaker 1: up in twenty twenty, and this isn't when everyone sort
Speaker 1: of tried to get on the TikTok bandwagon. But what
Speaker 1: made you start? And I suppose what made your content
Speaker 1: stand out?
Speaker 2: Look I start. I was a consumer of TikTok for ages,
Speaker 2: but I was working and I had just had two kids,
Speaker 2: and I sort of didn't really know, like didn't really
Speaker 2: know what to do with it really, but I always
Speaker 2: sort of wanted to. I don't know, like it was
Speaker 2: weird and how it all happens because I had Billy
Speaker 2: and then Lockdown hit and I was like, well, shit,
Speaker 2: like like I don't even know what where like what
Speaker 2: clicked in my head to make a video. But I
Speaker 2: think like one of my first few ones went viral,
Speaker 2: and it was back when TikTok was like just the
Speaker 2: comedy stuff and like the skits and the like the
Speaker 2: trending sounds and just like coming up with like a
Speaker 2: funny concept to those, and I really kind of I
Speaker 2: don't know, I think because I was watching and I
Speaker 2: studied TikTok. I follow a lot of like American moms
Speaker 2: that are just freaking so funny so I think I
Speaker 2: just started doing those, to be honest, and just started
Speaker 2: doing the tiktoks and like adding and the skits and
Speaker 2: just like being the parent and the toddler because back
Speaker 2: then my kids were not they wouldn't comply to videos,
Speaker 2: and they still wouldn't. Really, I don't really like to
Speaker 2: put them. I don't really like to put them in
Speaker 2: the skits and stuff. They're sort of in the background
Speaker 2: in the vlogs and the dancing ones and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, back then, they weren't really in it at all,
Speaker 2: and it was just I don't really know. I think
Speaker 2: it was just timing for me, to be honest. It
Speaker 2: was the right time, the right place, the right sense
Speaker 2: of humor, and it just sort of clicked and it
Speaker 2: all just went off a little bit.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned your kids obviously said they do appear
Speaker 1: more in your content now. Was that something that you
Speaker 1: worried about sharing about them online? Because we've heard recently
Speaker 1: from Steph Claire Smith and she came out and said
Speaker 1: that she now doesn't want to share her son's face
Speaker 1: online because he gets recognized wherever he goes. Is that
Speaker 1: a concern to you, No, not really, It's never really been.
Speaker 2: I don't want to sound like a naive to the situation,
Speaker 2: but I think where we live in particular, were so
Speaker 2: out of the city, Like I feel I live a
Speaker 2: little bit rural, so it's not really like I obviously
Speaker 2: think about it, but I just I don't dwell on it,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like I feel like
Speaker 2: I don't show like privacy wise, I don't really show
Speaker 2: what's going on with them. I don't show tantrums. I
Speaker 2: make sure that like whenever I'm filming, they know that
Speaker 2: Mummy's filming video, and like, do you want to be
Speaker 2: in it? Do you not want to be in it?
Speaker 2: Like they don't, and they know when the video when
Speaker 2: the camera's on, and Marley is very my eldest and
Speaker 2: my two oldest, they're just like if they don't want
Speaker 2: to be a part of it, they won't. And even
Speaker 2: my three year olds now, she's just like she doesn't
Speaker 2: want to be a part of it. So I don't
Speaker 2: force them to do anything. I mean, I still want
Speaker 2: to talk about the issues and stuff like that, so
Speaker 2: I make sure that if there's like an issue that
Speaker 2: I want to discuss to kind of open up the
Speaker 2: conversation and share it to TikTok, which you know, advice
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and it opens up, you know,
Speaker 2: like when I do my TikTok's talking about autism or
Speaker 2: tantrums and stuff like that. I just make sure I
Speaker 2: sort of not sharing too much information. I obviously don't
Speaker 2: share them in the videos and just sort of discuss
Speaker 2: what's going on rather than showing what's going on. If
Speaker 2: that may any cent.
Speaker 1: You seem really mindful of it. And I know it's
Speaker 1: a really hard one because even with our sister Kate
Speaker 1: having a baby recently, I know that's been a discussion
Speaker 1: of her. She's like how much do I actually share online?
Speaker 1: And it's not like she has a huge personal following.
Speaker 1: But you know, most people share photos of their children
Speaker 1: online regardless of if they have a following or not.
Speaker 1: And I think the main thing with your content aims
Speaker 1: is that you're the main character, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like you're too in the background. But it's as you say,
Speaker 1: like you're mindful about what you're sharing, which I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: And as Amy said, there's so many parents these days
Speaker 1: who don't have a following, who are constantly sharing so
Speaker 1: much content. So it is a really tough one. Well,
Speaker 1: that's that thing of weighing it up, isn't it. Like
Speaker 1: I hate when people share content about their kids that
Speaker 1: you think that kid is going to be mortified when
Speaker 1: they grow up and they see that they've you know,
Speaker 1: the tantrum kind of content. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I make sure, like you know, like if
Speaker 2: we're potty training or something like, I'll just talk about
Speaker 2: it rather than showing what we do. Like it's kind
Speaker 2: of like, you know those ones that you definitely have
Speaker 2: to respect your kids privacy in that aspect. And again,
Speaker 2: like I ask my kids if they want to be
Speaker 2: a part of it or not, and I'll make sure
Speaker 2: that they're all okay, But I generally try to keep
Speaker 2: them out of it, but they're always in the background anyway.
Speaker 1: It's funny because I actually first came across you when
Speaker 1: you were sharing the contents of some of your lollijer.
Speaker 1: It was these gummy lollies, and I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, Like I have to follow James. You actually
Speaker 1: went viral for showing that you feed your kids at
Speaker 1: three PM. And I think everyone's like, well, this is
Speaker 1: dinner three. It's a fantastic idea. Can you explain like
Speaker 1: the reasoning behind this and how it works.
Speaker 2: I copped a lot of flak for people saying that,
Speaker 2: like I thought that I invented and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: So I want to firstly put a disclaimer out that
Speaker 2: I do not think that I invented the three cock dinners.
Speaker 2: Like I know they do them all across the world.
Speaker 2: I definitely am not the first to do it. I
Speaker 2: think my video just went viral and I talked when
Speaker 2: I was talking about it, and that's just and people
Speaker 2: were just some people were like, yeah, we've been doing
Speaker 2: it for ages, and some people, you know, we're saying
Speaker 2: we've just started it and it's the most amazing thing.
Speaker 2: But basically, we've had so many issues with food from
Speaker 2: day dot to be honest, Like my first child, Marley
Speaker 2: had food aversion, so the minute she turned one, she
Speaker 2: basically didn't really eat much of anything. So I've sort
Speaker 2: of had this really horrible relationship with feeding my children
Speaker 2: from day one. So I've gone through a lot in
Speaker 2: that sort of aspect where they're always changing and I'm
Speaker 2: always trying to find ways to feed them. I'm always
Speaker 2: trying to find nutritional foods to put into them and
Speaker 2: try and hide the vegetables wherever I can. So it's
Speaker 2: always been like a topic for us. It's probably been
Speaker 2: the hardest part of parenting in my journey, to be honest.
Speaker 2: But I think it started because Marley started school and
Speaker 2: she came home. She's basically the main one that I
Speaker 2: need to get the most nutrients into because the others
Speaker 2: sort of they eat fruit and here and there, but
Speaker 2: they're all so different and they all eat different things,
Speaker 2: so I'm always cooking different meals anyway. But when she
Speaker 2: got home, I found that she was just feeding up
Speaker 2: on snacks and like she was so hungry every single
Speaker 2: time she'd walk through the door because she doesn't need
Speaker 2: anything at lunch, so her lunchbox is always full still,
Speaker 2: so she comes home and she's starving. So I thought, well,
Speaker 2: why don't I just try to have dinner ready and
Speaker 2: then she can eat her dinner when she gets home.
Speaker 2: And then it just started like working. And it works
Speaker 2: for me too, because I prepped dinner sort of around
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock, so when the babies are asleep, I can
Speaker 2: actually have a rest and I'm not trying to I'm
Speaker 2: not thinking about what I'm going to cook or anything
Speaker 2: like that. It's all done. So it's just sort of
Speaker 2: worked for me because I always like to be one
Speaker 2: step ahead and in like to be able to sort
Speaker 2: of sit down and have a rest. I like to
Speaker 2: have everything done. I like to have like dinner prepared
Speaker 2: and the kitchen cleaned and everything sort of ready to go.
Speaker 2: That's just a me problem though, I think when.
Speaker 1: You have such a busy life because away from TikTok,
Speaker 1: you also work as a nurse. And it's crazy because
Speaker 1: I think we're seeing more of this where people are
Speaker 1: wanting to follow people who have full time jobs or
Speaker 1: work or you know, actually have a career. How does
Speaker 1: that work though as a nurse, because surely you get
Speaker 1: recognized a lot.
Speaker 2: I do. I do. I do. It's it's actually like
Speaker 2: the last sort of few months, I've really noticed like
Speaker 2: a lot of people recognizing me. Look, it's fine. I
Speaker 2: don't like I just forget to be honest. I I
Speaker 2: because I do all my videos basically in the like
Speaker 2: in my home and as I said, we sort of
Speaker 2: live out of the city and stuff like that, and
Speaker 2: people do recognize me down here. But as I said
Speaker 2: as well, it's like a really safe community around here,
Speaker 2: so it's just kind of like I mean, I say
Speaker 2: high to anyone on the street anyway. So it's sort
Speaker 2: of like just that little bit of like that extra
Speaker 2: element of they know everything about my life, but weren't
Speaker 2: no working. I'm only really working as much to keep
Speaker 2: my registration at the moment, because you know, as you said,
Speaker 2: like it's really quite the logistics of me working isn't
Speaker 2: really even worth it at this point. It's more just
Speaker 2: to keep my registration so I can go back when
Speaker 2: all the kids go back to school. So because everyone's
Speaker 2: in such a different routine, like having only one at
Speaker 2: school and then two at daycare and then one always
Speaker 2: with me, Like it's just no one's in the same
Speaker 2: routine yet, So even the thought of me going to work,
Speaker 2: it's just a logistical nightmare at the moment.
Speaker 1: So do you think you'd ever want to become a
Speaker 1: full time content creator? Is that something that's on the
Speaker 1: cards for you?
Speaker 2: Look like, I already am a full time content creator
Speaker 2: and a nurse, and I would never ever ever stop nursing.
Speaker 2: It just that would be ridiculous, would be really silly
Speaker 2: for me, because you know, like like I understand other
Speaker 2: people do do that, and I completely agree with, Like
Speaker 2: that's completely their decision. But for me personally, you know,
Speaker 2: like I'm thirty nine, Like I'm not going to be
Speaker 2: relevant forever on this app, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So I'm very realistic with how relevant I'm going to
Speaker 2: be for what amount of time and to give up
Speaker 2: my neur Like I studied for years to you know,
Speaker 2: become a nurse, and I've worked really hard to get
Speaker 2: to the position that I am at the hospital where
Speaker 2: I'm able to just kind of work when I want to,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? So for me to
Speaker 2: give that up would just be silly. And I love
Speaker 2: being a nurse. I'm so passionate about being a nurse.
Speaker 2: But i love social media as well, So I feel
Speaker 2: like I've got the best of both worlds, to be honest,
Speaker 2: And it's kind.
Speaker 1: Of a double edged sword, isn't it, Because people follow
Speaker 1: you because you're relatable and they want to see you
Speaker 1: as a working mum And that's sort of a is
Speaker 1: a strange one, now, isn't it, Because there's so many
Speaker 1: content creators. For example, there's that guy who posts about
Speaker 1: his nine to five, which looks a bit soul destroyed,
Speaker 1: like he could have his job because he's got so
Speaker 1: opportunities but he can't. We've had the same conversations too,
Speaker 1: like I feel sad, like us being like, you know,
Speaker 1: you're saying you're thirty nine and like we're thirty five,
Speaker 1: and I feel like, as women, you think, oh my, like,
Speaker 1: is no one going to be interested when I reach
Speaker 1: my forties?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like it's a sad. It's a risk, isn't it. Social media, podcasting,
Speaker 1: all this stuff. You just don't know what the future is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but it's something that I really enjoyed the moment.
Speaker 2: So it's like I'm I'm really happy just writing this
Speaker 2: wave while I can like for me to be able
Speaker 2: to stay at home and make some money. And but
Speaker 2: not only that, like I love creating videos just to
Speaker 2: kind of.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I love being interesting, I love being relevant, I love
Speaker 2: being funny. I love making people laugh. Like that's all
Speaker 2: about what social media and my content is like. And
Speaker 2: I think that the reason I've got so many followers
Speaker 2: is because people feel that they see that they see
Speaker 2: that I enjoy what I'm doing, So you know, I
Speaker 2: feel like that's something that social media misses. Like there's
Speaker 2: only like there's a lot of negativity out there, like
Speaker 2: if we can get like I follow the people who
Speaker 2: I follow are just so uplifting. They're so energetic, they're
Speaker 2: so charismatic, They've got they're so interesting, So like I
Speaker 2: want to be that for someone else, do you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? So yeah, it's it's really fulfilling at
Speaker 2: the moment, and I feel like that's another reason I
Speaker 2: started it is because like when you are a mom.
Speaker 2: And I don't want this to sound negative, but like
Speaker 2: when we were in lockdown and I had three children
Speaker 2: under four, it was like everything was so similar, Like
Speaker 2: the day was the same, we'd waker. It was like
Speaker 2: I had this little outlet of TikTok where I could
Speaker 2: be funny and I could be relevant and people were
Speaker 2: like watching and love and really enjoying it. And I
Speaker 2: love making people laugh. I think that's my main sort
Speaker 2: of reason. I love making people laugh, and I love
Speaker 2: allowing people to see my life so they don't feel
Speaker 2: so alone, do you know what I mean? Like being
Speaker 2: a mom like some like when I went through everything
Speaker 2: with Marley's autism diagnosis, I just felt like I was
Speaker 2: the only one going through it, Like what like no,
Speaker 2: like and fussy eaters, like like, what did I do
Speaker 2: to get this? Like I have not done anything wrong
Speaker 2: and I've got these children that don't eat anything. And
Speaker 2: then as soon as I started posting about it, every
Speaker 2: like there was such an influx of people going, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, same, same, same. So we're all like this
Speaker 2: to build this community where we could just bounce off
Speaker 2: each other and people didn't feel so alone, and like
Speaker 2: people chat in my comments section about like, you know,
Speaker 2: tricks and like ideas that they have too, and it's
Speaker 2: just sort of helpful and uplifting. I think. So even
Speaker 2: though we're going through this sucky time trying to get
Speaker 2: vegetables into our children, and it's like, you know, someone
Speaker 2: across the world is doing the same thing, So it
Speaker 2: feels nice to be connected in a way. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: People can be so critical of social media and things.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there's negatives that come with it, but
Speaker 1: there's so many positives as well. And I know, for
Speaker 1: Kate at the moment being on maternity leave, I think
Speaker 1: because obviously Amy and I don't have children, so it's
Speaker 1: very hard for her to relate to what's going on
Speaker 1: in our lives and vice versa isolating. The first time
Speaker 1: you're on maternity leave. It's probably the most isolating time
Speaker 1: for women because you don't have that support system if
Speaker 1: you work colleagues. And even with Kate, like she hasn't
Speaker 1: joined like a mother's group or anything like that. So
Speaker 1: I think for her, like she's really resonated with your
Speaker 1: content and she's like love following mums in the same
Speaker 1: stage of life. So it's so important, and I think
Speaker 1: it's so wonderful that people like you are opening up
Speaker 1: about it because we I mean, you think about our mums,
Speaker 1: they probably had not much support at all, and there'd
Speaker 1: be so many unanswered questions.
Speaker 2: Oh crazy, Like I just because like Kate especially like
Speaker 2: when she was said that she's like feeding at the moment,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, I remember that, because I was
Speaker 2: very strict like Kate Kate is and I was like,
Speaker 2: this is feeding time. No one like we're not leaving
Speaker 2: the house, this is it. And like I didn't lose
Speaker 2: any friends because everyone's still there. They're just sort of
Speaker 2: they're letting you do your thing, do you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Like you know, I'm sure friends didn't call
Speaker 2: me because they knew of my strict schedule. But it
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that they don't like me. They're just trying
Speaker 2: to mind, you know, minding my business. So I mean
Speaker 2: I get it, and like, and that's the thing. Was like, like,
Speaker 2: as you said, like, I have no idea what my
Speaker 2: mom did. My mom had me in Venezuela and she
Speaker 2: had my sister who is eighteen months older than me,
Speaker 2: and she lived in like I think they're in some
Speaker 2: expat community, and she didn't know any Spanish, and like
Speaker 2: it was just I have no idea how she would
Speaker 2: have done it. She wouldn't have been able to watch
Speaker 2: TV or anything because it would all have been in
Speaker 2: a different language. I'm like, how did you not? How
Speaker 2: did you survive that? Like that would have been so pressing.
Speaker 1: It's a bit like our mum having triplets, because we've
Speaker 1: spoken to her and we're like, how did you even
Speaker 1: leave the house with three children? She's like, I didn't
Speaker 1: for like over a year. Because yeah, you just hear
Speaker 1: these stories from your parents and you're like, Wow, you
Speaker 1: guys are incredible. And I think something else that probably
Speaker 1: a lot of your audience has connected with is that
Speaker 1: you have candidly shared about your challenges with sobriety in
Speaker 1: your early twenties. If you do feel comfortable talking about it,
Speaker 1: are you able to share with listeners your journey?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, I let people know that, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sober, and I went through this hard time and
Speaker 1: blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: But I don't really I've never really kind of gone
Speaker 2: into it, not because I don't, not because I'm ashamed
Speaker 2: or anything. It is definitely it's who I am. You know,
Speaker 2: It's a part of my story, but I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't want that to be my content, if that makes
Speaker 2: any sense. Yeah, because and like I want people to
Speaker 2: know that, yes, I'm sober, Yes I went through a
Speaker 2: hard time, but this is what happens when you give up,
Speaker 2: Like this is my life. My life now is because
Speaker 2: I'm not drinking, do you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, like there's a lot of Whenever
Speaker 2: I mention it, I get a lot of questions. But
Speaker 2: the second I sort of start answering those questions, my
Speaker 2: whole content will become that. And as I said, I'm
Speaker 2: not ashamed of it, and I do want to help
Speaker 2: in a way, but I feel like i'd be helping
Speaker 2: more by sharing what the best that comes out of
Speaker 2: becoming sober, Like what what you can have if you
Speaker 2: give up you know that hard if you give up
Speaker 2: the drink. Like honestly, it was. It was a really
Speaker 2: tough time for me. Like my whole twenties is a
Speaker 2: bit of a blur. I just I started drinking like normal,
Speaker 2: like normally, I think I liked to party a lot
Speaker 2: more than other people. But like I still you know,
Speaker 2: managed to you know, have a steady job through the week.
Speaker 2: I studied a whole bunch of things in my twenties.
Speaker 2: I went to tay If, I went to college, and
Speaker 2: all these different sort of career paths, but none of
Speaker 2: them really resonated with me as much as nursing does.
Speaker 2: And I went from in my late twenties, I sort
Speaker 2: of was in and out of rehab for ages, and
Speaker 2: then finally got sober at twenty seven, and then met
Speaker 2: my husband at twenty eight, and then did my nursing degree,
Speaker 2: and it just all kind of everything happened in a
Speaker 2: very quick time, Like I got married, had four kids,
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff, have my nursing degree,
Speaker 2: We bought a house, we built a house. It just
Speaker 2: so many good things came from me become like finally
Speaker 2: stopping drinking.
Speaker 1: It's kind of become good that so yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 1: because I mean, I don't drink, and that's just been
Speaker 1: a choice. I've just never really got into it. And
Speaker 1: it's funny because a few people, like my husband, he
Speaker 1: didn't drink for I think it was like three months,
Speaker 1: and he's like, I actually feel so good. And it's
Speaker 1: good that people are talking about that as well. But
Speaker 1: I think it's important, as you said, for people to
Speaker 1: see what's on the other side of you changing your life.
Speaker 1: So it's really positive to see someone who's made a
Speaker 1: huge success of their life and the fact that you
Speaker 1: got through it. You did touch on your husband. I
Speaker 1: have to bring this up. He doesn't like being in
Speaker 1: your content?
Speaker 2: Does he?
Speaker 1: I can relate to that with my.
Speaker 2: It's not so much that he doesn't like being in
Speaker 2: my content. He's just never liked photos or videos of
Speaker 2: himself like that. Even on our wedding day was it
Speaker 2: was a struggle to get photos like it's now it's
Speaker 2: not really about it's not really about social media. It's
Speaker 2: not really there's no like real kind of I feel
Speaker 2: I feel like some of my followers want the like
Speaker 2: the the duty details. I'm like, it's really nothing. It's
Speaker 2: really nothing more than he just doesn't like photos of
Speaker 2: himself and he never has, like I don't think I can.
Speaker 2: I think his mom has given me like three or
Speaker 2: four photos of his whole childhood. So it's just him, like,
Speaker 2: it's just not he doesn't like it. So and I
Speaker 2: would never force him, Like he's happy now to kind
Speaker 2: of be in the background, because he realizes, you know,
Speaker 2: this is our life now and he's really supportive of
Speaker 2: that and he's really happy for me. So he's like
Speaker 2: he doesn't mind being in the background. He just would never,
Speaker 2: you know, actively be on camera.
Speaker 1: Well, while we're talking about your husband, which I'm sure
Speaker 1: he loves us discussing him on a podcasts.
Speaker 2: Right, he really doesn't mind anymore. He just doesn't want
Speaker 2: to be on the camera.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. Obviously, this is a Christmas
Speaker 1: special episode and we want to talk about Christmas. I
Speaker 1: want to know because everyone, I don't know people's husbands
Speaker 1: are different at Christmas time, but I want to know,
Speaker 1: what is your husband like? Is he like a last
Speaker 1: minute shopper? Do you have to do most of the
Speaker 1: shopping for the kids or is he quite a good
Speaker 1: guy when it comes to present buying.
Speaker 2: I do most of the shopping. When it comes to
Speaker 2: like clothes and books and toys, I don't go too crazy.
Speaker 2: I've set the bar very low with our kids, so
Speaker 2: they get Santa presence and they usually just get one
Speaker 2: joint from me and him. But in saying that, like
Speaker 2: he's very good at finding things that the kids like,
Speaker 2: so like, for example, Marley like surfing. So when it
Speaker 2: comes when it comes to presence, they say, it's all
Speaker 2: or nothing for him. So it's like he will research
Speaker 2: the best board for a seven year old and like
Speaker 2: he gets really into it that way. But he has
Speaker 2: to sort of know what they like. So Indy, I
Speaker 2: think he's going to get some art stuff in it,
Speaker 2: and he'll just randomly come up and they'll be like,
Speaker 2: I've got this really great idea for a Christmas present
Speaker 2: football and I'm like, yeah, that's great, do it, let's
Speaker 2: do it. We'll wrap it up. Yeah. Yeah, So like
Speaker 2: he had, he's a thinker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you spoke last year a lot on your
Speaker 1: TikTok about Christmas budgeting because Sophie and I were having
Speaker 1: this very discussion the other day about like how much
Speaker 1: you actually spend on a child because it's the first
Speaker 1: time we've had a child in the family buy for.
Speaker 1: And I even had this discussion with my husband. He
Speaker 1: was like, the kids don't know what they're getting, you know,
Speaker 1: when they're a baby, so it doesn't matter. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's your take on that, Like how
Speaker 1: much do you think you should spend on your children.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent with your parents, with your husband on
Speaker 2: that one? You honestly, for Kate's baby, you could get
Speaker 2: them a set of keys and they'd be right, like, honestly,
Speaker 2: like a potato masher, like seriously, like I am not
Speaker 2: like I love the active giving. I love them opening
Speaker 2: presents and stuff like that, but they really don't need much.
Speaker 2: They really don't need much. And if you set the barlow,
Speaker 2: like I said, so when I say set the barlow,
Speaker 2: they're still getting presents. They're getting some books, they're getting
Speaker 2: some clothes, they're getting some toys. Of course, of course
Speaker 2: they're getting toys and toys that they like too. I
Speaker 2: think this is kind of last year in this year,
Speaker 2: like the first sort of years where the bigger girls
Speaker 2: are telling me exactly what they want. But then like
Speaker 2: in saying that who, they'll be happy with whatever if
Speaker 2: that makes an his ends, I know what they like.
Speaker 2: So as long as they get a few really exciting ones.
Speaker 2: And then they've got the books that they open the
Speaker 2: presence and they're like, it's just the fact that they're
Speaker 2: opening the paper is actually more exciting than what's inside. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because the girls are a bit older, I think my
Speaker 2: budget is obviously going to be a bit bigger and
Speaker 2: we don't need They don't need any bikes or anything
Speaker 2: at the moment, so I think we're going to be
Speaker 2: pretty cruisy this year. Honestly, we're just pretty humble when
Speaker 2: it comes to Christmas. And I mean that in like
Speaker 2: the least dickiest way, Like I don't want to be
Speaker 2: like a pick me kind of girl, but like we
Speaker 2: really just keep it really low key and on that
Speaker 2: we go to my husband's house usually for Christmas. If
Speaker 2: not the day, then like we pick a day. It
Speaker 2: depends on his siblings and his parents spoil them so
Speaker 2: and they get so much stuff from my parents as well,
Speaker 2: So I think, you know, as long as there's stuff
Speaker 2: in the Santa Sax, you're fine. I'm probably even gonna
Speaker 2: say fifty dollars a kid, to be honest.
Speaker 1: Yet, you know, like those tiktoks from those American kids
Speaker 1: and they're doing the PowerPoint presentations of what they want
Speaker 1: and then they do the whole in they're like they drunk.
Speaker 2: All I thought that was satire for so long. I
Speaker 2: honestly thought, I thought there's no way, like I get
Speaker 2: it when the kids are a bit older. I understand
Speaker 2: because like you know that, like an ad comes on
Speaker 2: on TV and my kids are all over it. But
Speaker 2: at this age, they don't know anything else. Like we
Speaker 2: don't have a Nintendo, don't They don't have game boys
Speaker 2: or anything like that. They have their iPads and that's
Speaker 2: it because they don't know any different. I think the
Speaker 2: second we get a Nintendo, and we're not really a
Speaker 2: Nintendo family, so I don't think we would ever really
Speaker 2: get one until they go to someone else's house and say, oh,
Speaker 2: they've got this Nintendo. I really want it, because they
Speaker 2: would have no idea what Nintendo is until they see
Speaker 2: it somewhere else, you know what I mean? So as
Speaker 2: long as yeah, so they don't know anything else, so
Speaker 2: that the only way they're going to know about something
Speaker 2: is through you. So if you just keep it really
Speaker 2: low and just make the magic of Christmas be something else,
Speaker 2: like the act of giving. Like maybe even this year,
Speaker 2: I think I might get Marley to, you know, give
Speaker 2: her a little bit of money to get presents for
Speaker 2: her siblings and stuff like that, so they can give
Speaker 2: to each other. And I like the fact that, you know,
Speaker 2: I can take the big girls out and we can
Speaker 2: go by Daddy a present and they get them involved
Speaker 2: in that side of it rather than them just getting things.
Speaker 1: So true about the magic of Christmas and making it
Speaker 1: special for them. Because growing up, we had a girl
Speaker 1: at our school and her parents would just go next
Speaker 1: level about making it magic, especially on Christmas Eve, so
Speaker 1: they'd get up on the roof and they would stomp around.
Speaker 1: Do you and your husband do anything like that? Like
Speaker 1: I saw, for instance, Steph Claire Smith, they were doing
Speaker 1: the whole ritual where they'd nibble on all the carrots
Speaker 1: and like, what's in trouble for that?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: Yeah, is there something that you've done that people? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there were all these like grinches who are like, how
Speaker 1: dare you? My child has seen this and it's like,
Speaker 1: but why is your five years old.
Speaker 2: I got Actually I got a bit of slack for
Speaker 2: it too, because I've made the night before Christmas eves
Speaker 2: like being sent to basically and wrapping all the presents,
Speaker 2: and I got a lot of people saying like, you
Speaker 2: should have put a trigger warning in front of this,
Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, really, like why are you showing.
Speaker 1: I blame TikTok. There should be parameters up, maybe if
Speaker 1: you're ontok trigger warning for everything these days like that
Speaker 1: now things Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And I like even to even as like
Speaker 2: far as me using sugar these days, like I need
Speaker 2: to put a trigger warn It's just like, yeah, sugar
Speaker 2: and vegetable oil. Apparently I'm not allowed to like or
Speaker 2: canal canol whatever it's called. God, but no. We so
Speaker 2: we do the carrot. We do the carrot, and then
Speaker 2: we do the Santa sax obviously, and then we leave
Speaker 2: a biscuit out. We make biscuits. So that's one of
Speaker 2: my cooking things. I just love, like the Christmas cookie,
Speaker 2: like just the sugar cookie. I love those, and we
Speaker 2: decorate them and then we leave one of those out
Speaker 2: for Santa with a glass of milk. So yeah, that's
Speaker 2: sort of all we kind of do, like we don't
Speaker 2: go too crazy, we put Christmas lights on, we love
Speaker 2: a Christmas tree. We get the real ones. But I
Speaker 2: heard your episode of them of the Christmas trees what
Speaker 2: are they called?
Speaker 1: The We like literally have only recently started getting fake
Speaker 1: trees because I swore against and like, We've always been
Speaker 1: a real Christmas tree family. And I hate that I've
Speaker 1: become that wanker with a nice like fake tree. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I mean this is how into real Christmas trees
Speaker 1: we are. So like, for thirty five years, I've always
Speaker 1: had a real Christmas tree. And then my husband, who
Speaker 1: doesn't even like Chris mess he connected the dots that
Speaker 1: I like real Christmas trees and when and bought a
Speaker 1: whole packet of like Christmas tree seedlings to grow at
Speaker 1: his grandpa's property and so because he realized how expensive
Speaker 1: they were, and he's like, in fifteen years, we're going
Speaker 1: to have a whole load of Christmas trees if I
Speaker 1: get one of them for free. But I love that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I feel like getting a real Christmas tree is
Speaker 1: so much fun with kids, Like I've always said to
Speaker 1: my husband when I have kids, like I'm like, we're
Speaker 1: going to get two Christmas trees and we'll just have
Speaker 1: a real one in another room, except when they probably
Speaker 1: want to pick out the most expensive. I'm assuming, do
Speaker 1: you is that what you do? Is that like you
Speaker 1: have a special day where you go and pick the
Speaker 1: Christmas tree up?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So yeah, I've always been a real Christmas tree girl,
Speaker 2: and my husband has always had a fake one, but
Speaker 2: they're fake one is epic too, but like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: just something about the smell of the tree is real
Speaker 2: nostalgic for me. We usually go to there's a nursery
Speaker 2: in town on and depending on it's che usually just
Speaker 2: goes and takes the big girls with him, but when
Speaker 2: the kids grow up a little bit, we'll probably all
Speaker 2: go as a family.
Speaker 1: You touched on sugar cookies and we love debating the
Speaker 1: top Christmas recipes. So I want to run you through
Speaker 1: some recipes and well not recipes, with some dishes and
Speaker 1: get your rating either if it's a top tier Christmas dish,
Speaker 1: a mid tier Christmas dish, or if it's in the
Speaker 1: meth tier.
Speaker 2: So okay, pa over oh top tier absolute banger. That
Speaker 2: is like, that's what that is something that I look
Speaker 2: forward to every Christmas I love that.
Speaker 1: I agree, I have to, I have to actually disagree.
Speaker 1: I do love a path I do love a Pablo.
Speaker 2: I totally get it. You're either a pad or you're not.
Speaker 1: I do like it, but I think because our mum
Speaker 1: serves it in summer time, not just for Christmas. So
Speaker 1: that's why it's not like a QUINTI because it breaks up. Like, okay,
Speaker 1: so the next one is putting. We'll get your take
Speaker 1: on putting first before we delve into that debate.
Speaker 2: But see, I'm I reckon you're either a pav or
Speaker 2: a pudding, and I would definitely be a pav I think.
Speaker 2: I mean, I love I love pudding, and I love
Speaker 2: like the warm you know, warm and up and have
Speaker 2: the cream one and stuff like that. But like in
Speaker 2: the middle of summer, it's not it's not the dessert
Speaker 2: of choice, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, I'm you have to be sitting under the air
Speaker 1: conditioning almost to be able to consider putting, especially if
Speaker 1: you've got podcast. Last Christmas was cold in Adelaide and
Speaker 1: it like just felt wintery, so it was like perfect,
Speaker 1: like the one perfect time to have pudding. What you
Speaker 1: need is a little bit of pudding and ice cream
Speaker 1: and then like the path as well when you break up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah you need both.
Speaker 2: But I usually, yeah, I usually have like a selection
Speaker 2: of everything. I've got a huge, like a massive variety
Speaker 2: when it comes to food, Like I'm not really like
Speaker 2: I would never say no to anything really, so putting
Speaker 2: Pavlova like, it's all just delicious to me. So yeah,
Speaker 2: but I think Pavlova's is the one that I had
Speaker 2: growing up.
Speaker 1: You know what it is? I think about putting. I
Speaker 1: don't know, did your family do this where they'd put
Speaker 1: the coins in the pudding? No, you don't like because
Speaker 1: remember we spoke about it, I think last year and
Speaker 1: people were like some people go, oh yeah, yeah I
Speaker 1: used to have coins in my putting, and other people didn't.
Speaker 1: But it's an English traditional, yeah, like our auntie one year,
Speaker 1: I remember she gave out. It was like, if you've
Speaker 1: got a piece of pudding, you almost got six dollars
Speaker 1: in coins out of this pudding. So of course, even
Speaker 1: if you didn't like it, you wanted it to get
Speaker 1: the money. So yeah, that would be a good service.
Speaker 2: Terry, like what to boil it?
Speaker 1: Well, I think I think it's like normally you meant
Speaker 1: to use like I think the old currency you were
Speaker 1: able to boil it up I think, but now, for example,
Speaker 1: so they just put it on the side of the plate.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't know they sprinkle it in like I mean,
Speaker 1: this was in the nineties, so when people probab we
Speaker 1: didn't carry about that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I would never like, don't do that
Speaker 2: on TikTok. Honestly, I said, my kids pop on yesterday.
Speaker 2: I got so much ship for that.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, they won't be putting coins desert chocolate coins.
Speaker 1: That's actually one of those tis problem.
Speaker 2: Would bloody child Services on me?
Speaker 1: That TikTok would probably go off because of everyone in
Speaker 1: the commons.
Speaker 2: There's a way to go viral on usually yeah, they
Speaker 2: usually do it. Probably would get taken down for community
Speaker 2: like community violations.
Speaker 1: Okay, everyone listening, please don't put coins and you're putting them,
Speaker 1: maybe just.
Speaker 2: Know that that might It's like that ice cream cake
Speaker 2: that comes that Fredo ice cream cake that comes with
Speaker 2: the little Freddos in them. My kids don't even really
Speaker 2: like ice cream cake, but whenever we go to my
Speaker 2: in laws, they always have that cake for a birthday
Speaker 2: and they will eat it because it's like it's a
Speaker 2: competition to see, like how many freddos that you get?
Speaker 2: That is so cooy.
Speaker 1: The same for the version of the pints of the pudding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so on.
Speaker 1: TikTok trends, there's I'm sure you've seen it. There's that
Speaker 1: viral bree and cranberry puff pastry reef that everyone keeps doing.
Speaker 1: I don't know, is that like, do you reckon that
Speaker 1: would be top tier, mid tier or just men?
Speaker 2: I reckon that would be I mean, it's not like
Speaker 2: it's not in my head like it would be freaking delicious,
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, but it's not like something that
Speaker 2: I would think, Oh, for Christmas this year, I'm going
Speaker 2: to do a bree cranberry reef. Like it's not really
Speaker 2: traditional for me, but if someone brought it, I'd eat
Speaker 2: it for sure. So like probably mid tier.
Speaker 1: To wrap that up on a controversial one, What about
Speaker 1: egg nog? Is that something you can do?
Speaker 2: People like itself? Yeah? I bought some last year because
Speaker 2: it was on special. I'd never tried it before. It
Speaker 2: just goes like vanilla malt. But I think the one
Speaker 2: that I got was just one of them. I think
Speaker 2: eggnog is one of those things that like you've got
Speaker 2: to have the real deal for it to be eggnog.
Speaker 2: But then it gets like distributed to all these like
Speaker 2: different kind of brands and they just kind of put
Speaker 2: their own twang on it. But like, what is actually eggnog?
Speaker 2: It's got like ram in it, it's warm, it's you know,
Speaker 2: and there's stuff that we would buy down at the
Speaker 2: shop that's like the same brand as the custard brand,
Speaker 2: like Peter's or whatever. They're not going to be creating
Speaker 2: like the real eggnog, are they. So I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I would definitely not drink that. And I don't
Speaker 2: think my family has ever had.
Speaker 1: I know, last year you had this viral video. Oh sorry,
Speaker 1: it might have been this year there was a viral
Speaker 1: video where you showed how you repurpose some of the
Speaker 1: kids leftovers. Is leftover is a big thing at Christmas
Speaker 1: time for you? Is there any sort of like go
Speaker 1: to recipes that come to mind?
Speaker 2: We if we did, like we don't actually do a
Speaker 2: family like we don't actually whole host Christmas at ours.
Speaker 2: We go to who again, we go to my in laws?
Speaker 2: So she but then she always like divvys up all
Speaker 2: the leftovers and everyone takes their own packet. So I'm yeah,
Speaker 2: but I don't think there's much you could do like
Speaker 2: with but obviously there is, like with Christmas ham and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, but I think my husband's going to
Speaker 2: be eating that ham before I'm able to kind of
Speaker 2: do anything with it, to be honest. But honestly, the
Speaker 2: repurposing videos and stuff only really happened recently with just
Speaker 2: the amount of like with my fourth now eating as well,
Speaker 2: there's just so much waste and it just gets to
Speaker 2: a point where I just couldn't handle throwing it out anymore.
Speaker 2: So I was just, yeah, I just but it's usually
Speaker 2: only breakfast stuff, if I'm completely honest, or sandwich crusts
Speaker 2: and things like that. But when it comes to dinner, like,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go reheating chicken three or four times.
Speaker 2: It's just it's about a sound treat thing as well.
Speaker 2: And my hat is gonna jump on that one too,
Speaker 2: because they think that I'm cooking up like snotty cereal
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, but it's not the case at all.
Speaker 2: It's usually the cereal that I pour and I give
Speaker 2: it to them because I'm just on autopilot and that's
Speaker 2: what they had yesterday. And then they look at it
Speaker 2: and they're like, no, I want some toast, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: are you are you kidding me? Like it's just eat
Speaker 2: that and the like there's no way I can force
Speaker 2: my child to eat like it's just and then I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna I'm not gonna sit there and like tell
Speaker 2: them to go hungry or eat it. Like that's just
Speaker 2: not the parenting style I have. So I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: it's usually my fault anyway, because as I said, I
Speaker 2: go on autopilot and I'm just making the same thing
Speaker 2: as they had yesterday. But maybe they weren't want the
Speaker 2: same thing as they had yesterday.
Speaker 1: I'm sure all the trus did have an issue if
Speaker 1: you were just like wasting food and throwing it out too.
Speaker 1: So I feel like you can never wait with people there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did this this bistle, add this vacuum ad
Speaker 2: and I poured a few little cocoa pops on the
Speaker 2: ground and they ate it up. So now like, who's
Speaker 2: the hypocrite? Like, oh my god, yeah, totally, I can't win. Honestly,
Speaker 2: It's just it's crazy.
Speaker 1: How do you deal with the criticism, because I know,
Speaker 1: even like on a smaller level with our podcast, I
Speaker 1: found the criticism hard and I find myself going and
Speaker 1: reading negative comments. Do you what's your sort of tactic
Speaker 1: with dealing with it?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't. I don't read the forums anymore. Because
Speaker 2: there was one one sort of trail of one what
Speaker 2: do they even call? Because it t one? Oh no,
Speaker 2: that was what was it? What the other? No, there's
Speaker 2: another credit? Yeah, yeah, So there was a Reddit post
Speaker 2: and it was like it was horrible, but it wasn't
Speaker 2: about me. It was about one of my daughters. So
Speaker 2: after I read that, Yeah, after I read that, I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm not going on anymore. And that was
Speaker 2: probably about six months ago, and I was just like,
Speaker 2: that's it. I'm done. And then ever since i've stopped
Speaker 2: reading that, I'm pretty good, Like I'm pretty okay with
Speaker 2: the comments that come up because they're just so ridiculous. Like,
Speaker 2: but the forums, that's where I found myself sort of
Speaker 2: going into a little bit of a hole with because
Speaker 2: it's just they're just literally making up stories and you've
Speaker 2: got no way to defend yourself and there are people
Speaker 2: on there defending you. But like it's just honestly, it
Speaker 2: did my head in not being able to defend myself,
Speaker 2: and for like like trying to work out how they
Speaker 2: even came up with that, for example, like taking my
Speaker 2: kids to the pool. There was this one thing where
Speaker 2: they were saying that I was just sitting there on
Speaker 2: my phone and my kids are just in the pool
Speaker 2: by themselves. I was like, what do you mean my kids?
Speaker 2: What do you mean? Like, how would I take how
Speaker 2: would that even be possible?
Speaker 1: It's just awful when it's just a flat out and
Speaker 1: as you said, you can't defend yourself. And I just
Speaker 1: think that those like they really need to have some
Speaker 1: sort of regulations around those forums because then, like I mean,
Speaker 1: even though as well, like I don't understand how they
Speaker 1: can get along. Something I find crazy about tattle Life
Speaker 1: obviously not read, but tatle Life is that you can't
Speaker 1: even join it without getting a referral link. So even
Speaker 1: if you did want to jump in there and defend yourself,
Speaker 1: which probably wouldn't be a good idea, be the worst idea,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, even if you did, you can't
Speaker 1: even get on there. Like I always say this to
Speaker 1: Sophie as well like sensitive, so something like tattle Life,
Speaker 1: it's you know, they toout it as it's a snark site,
Speaker 1: and so I just think if you go in with
Speaker 1: the mentality of they're never going to say anything nice
Speaker 1: about you, like it's literally your place to be vile.
Speaker 1: So I think it's I think when them red it's
Speaker 1: one step further. Who takes a thread on a child.
Speaker 2: You don't like? It was like it was the most
Speaker 2: horrible thing, like it was talking about their way as well,
Speaker 2: Like it was just the most disgusting post and it
Speaker 2: had been deleted, so it was just the comments underneath,
Speaker 2: so I didn't actually read the post. It was just
Speaker 2: the comments underneath, just alluding to the fact that that's
Speaker 2: what the person originally posted. And it was just so
Speaker 2: disgusting that I just almost threw my phone and just
Speaker 2: said never again. But then but like going past that,
Speaker 2: just the comments that I get, like they honestly, they
Speaker 2: don't get to me anymore. I don't think I ever
Speaker 2: really did, because it's just like you're old, you're ugly,
Speaker 2: your styles.
Speaker 1: Would like those things are true at all, I don't
Speaker 1: really matter.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's more like, honestly, it's just the
Speaker 2: ones usually that go viral. So it's a catch twenty
Speaker 2: two when you go viral, because it's like it opens
Speaker 2: you up to this dark web where they're just saying
Speaker 2: things because they just like I don't even know why.
Speaker 2: But to be honest, I really don't care. Honestly, a
Speaker 2: lot of of those negative comments actually fuel my content
Speaker 2: and you get a lot of engagement when you snap
Speaker 2: back at comments like that. So to be honest, like
Speaker 2: bring them on because they are actually feeding feeding my content.
Speaker 2: They're making me more relevant and I just like that
Speaker 2: and they don't even realize that they do it. I
Speaker 2: don't think so I love that.
Speaker 1: I feel like we shouldn't end it. I feel like
Speaker 1: we shouldn't And even though that was a really positive
Speaker 1: sentiment you had, I feel like we shouldn't end the
Speaker 1: Christmas episode talking about trolls. I want to know one
Speaker 1: last question about what do you want for Christmas this year?
Speaker 1: Because anyone that's listening that knows you, here's a good
Speaker 1: way just to drop it so you actually get what
Speaker 1: you want. Question to throw that wasn't in the approved questions.
Speaker 2: Abe, you know what, And I don't want this to
Speaker 2: sound it's going to sound cheesy. But my husband and
Speaker 2: I actually we like we get so much throughout the year.
Speaker 2: Like it's just it's crazy, like with my line of job.
Speaker 2: With my line of work, Shay used to be a
Speaker 2: sponsored surfer, so he still kind of get whatever he wants. Really,
Speaker 2: so it's like I don't really feel like we need
Speaker 2: things all. I just love this time of year, you know,
Speaker 2: when the sun starts to go down at like eight o'clock,
Speaker 2: like yesterday at six point thirty in the afternoon, like
Speaker 2: the kids were on the trampoline jumping with the sprinkler,
Speaker 2: Like it's just that's all I want. I just want everyone,
Speaker 2: like just to have a really magical Christmas. That's it.
Speaker 2: Like I'm and I know that sounds really cheesy, but honestly,
Speaker 2: I have everything I need. You know, I just got
Speaker 2: the I just got the ad with Bistle vacuum, So
Speaker 2: I just that's sort of like been the most special
Speaker 2: thing that I've got for a long time because at
Speaker 2: vacuums and it mops. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: Honestly, you know what, your husband's probably sitting here being
Speaker 1: like I've listened to this so I can get like
Speaker 1: the hot tip and want to get you don't know
Speaker 1: what that's so true about vacuum cleaners though I had
Speaker 1: never become I got a Dyson vacuum cleaner like four
Speaker 1: years ago, and I literally, I mean I paid for it,
Speaker 1: and I literally became the biggest advocate for this vacuum cleaner, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, it's just so yeah, it's It's one
Speaker 2: of those things that you just you don't realize you
Speaker 2: need until you've got it, and you're like, what was
Speaker 2: I doing without this?
Speaker 1: I think Hat wants one of those, actually, So she
Speaker 1: flagged that Christmas.
Speaker 2: It's a good one though, the Bissel. It's a really
Speaker 2: good one, No, honestly, but like I don't We've got
Speaker 2: I've got enough. I've got too many clothes, I've got jewelry,
Speaker 2: I've got makeup, I've got everything. It's just I would
Speaker 2: prefer to give this year, I think. And yeah, that's
Speaker 2: sort of the mentality I'm going with. And my husband too,
Speaker 2: Like he doesn't really need anything, So I think we're
Speaker 2: just gonna try and focus on spending our money on
Speaker 2: the kids and just making Christmas really special.
Speaker 1: So you're not planning on buying your husband a boat
Speaker 1: like Sarah's day. I don't know if you remember that
Speaker 1: back in both was that too? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Did she get a boat or she gave him a boat?
Speaker 1: It was like a speed boat would of course, like well,
Speaker 1: oh my husband was hard at that, Like he was
Speaker 1: so envious when he saw that pop up. He's like,
Speaker 1: where's my boat. I'm like, I'm so sorry we're not
Speaker 1: in the same tax bracket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's not forget that. There's day is worth millions.
Speaker 2: Like we're just we're just very very basic bitches down
Speaker 2: here in We're not like pulling, like we're just living
Speaker 2: in this really old cool house and like there's just
Speaker 2: we're just happy with sort of the basics at the moment.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think I'll be getting him much.
Speaker 2: Obviously we get something that like so the kids can
Speaker 2: see us unwrapped stuff, but it's usually just I don't
Speaker 2: know if my husband gets me at last year, he
Speaker 2: got me a dress to wear for Christmas, which was
Speaker 2: really nice, and I opened that and I got him
Speaker 2: some barbecue tools or something like it's really not crazy.
Speaker 1: Idsted he got your address. I'm laughing because Amy's hus
Speaker 1: been like when they first I think it was one
Speaker 1: of their first Christmases together, he bought her a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of clothes with the hope that she would wear
Speaker 1: them on one of them on Christmas Day, and they
Speaker 1: were literally like I don't know where he got these
Speaker 1: things from. Now he just gets me like hoodies and
Speaker 1: they was like, I feel like a tomboy. It was
Speaker 1: like this polka dot dress, like these really girly things,
Speaker 1: were like, do you know her?
Speaker 2: This is one, oh dear. He tried, He tried, gets
Speaker 2: like pretty much all the clothes that you see he
Speaker 2: dresses me. So he's pretty switched on to fashion, not
Speaker 2: in the sort of just in the way that he
Speaker 2: knows what looks cool. I don't know, it's weird.
Speaker 3: He's just got that sort of yeah, he's he's really
Speaker 3: you wouldn't pick it, but like because he's like he's
Speaker 3: a building designer and he's really kind of artsy and crafty,
Speaker 3: so he's he's all over the whole fashion stuff.
Speaker 2: He's got the best fashion. He's so much more fashionable
Speaker 2: than I am.
Speaker 1: This is just making people want to see more on
Speaker 1: your TikTok. I think you're you're not helping that cause.
Speaker 2: He's so cool and like he's just like the coolest
Speaker 2: surfy dude. Like yesterday we're at the beach and he
Speaker 2: just jumped on his surfboard and went and had a surf,
Speaker 2: and I was just like, you know what this is,
Speaker 2: Like I'm living my actual dream right now. Like I've
Speaker 2: got my little grommets on the beach digging a hole
Speaker 2: to China, and my husband's out catching a few waves
Speaker 2: and I'm just sitting here cruising like it was just
Speaker 2: it's it's the best at the moment, Like I'm just
Speaker 2: absolutely loving life. It's just amazing.
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Speaker 1: a very outspoken Christmas. We will be joined in Outspoken
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