WEBVTT - Growing Big on TikTok with Aims Connor 

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to our second episode of a very

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<v Speaker 1>outspoken Christmas Our summer series, and today we're joined by

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<v Speaker 1>the incredible Amy Connor, better known on TikTok simply as

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<v Speaker 1>Ames Now. Ames has over nine hundred thousand followers on

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok and shares relatable content about her life as a

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<v Speaker 1>nurse and Mum, we know you're gonna love this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love being interesting, I love being relevant, I love

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<v Speaker 2>being funny. I love making people laugh. That's all about

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<v Speaker 2>what social media and my content is. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that the reason I've got so many followers is because

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<v Speaker 2>people feel that they see that, they see that I

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy what I'm doing. It's a catch twenty two when

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<v Speaker 2>you go viral, because it's like it opens you up

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<v Speaker 2>to this dark web because it's just like you're old,

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<v Speaker 2>you're ugly, your styles.

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<v Speaker 1>Would of those things are true at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, a lot of those negative comments actually fuel my content,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've had a lot of engagement when you snap

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<v Speaker 2>back in comments like that. So bring them on because

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<v Speaker 2>they are actually feeding my content. They're making me more relevant,

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't even realize that they do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for joining us for Outspoken's Christmas special.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so excited to have you on the show because firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>we were shocked when we saw on TikTok that you

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<v Speaker 1>were actually an Outspoken listener.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I am, I love it. I love the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you entertaining on my way to work? I just

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't do the drive without you guys. I love

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<v Speaker 2>hearing a bit of Goths. I love being not being

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<v Speaker 2>a part of the drama, but just like hearing about

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<v Speaker 2>it and feeling like I'm in there. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>guys delivered the news in a way that it's just

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<v Speaker 2>so intriguing. And I don't know, there's podcasts out there

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<v Speaker 2>that just kind of dribble, and you don't. You just

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<v Speaker 2>get to the point and you tell it how it

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<v Speaker 2>is and it's really entertaining. I love it, so thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Blew some wind up skirt there.

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<v Speaker 1>Much appreciated because usually we have influences hitting us up

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<v Speaker 1>in the dms, maybe not too happy with some of

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<v Speaker 1>the content.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you haven't, but you haven't spoken about me. I nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, bad lut hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are some of the influencers you follow? And I

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<v Speaker 1>suppose maybe a line with because I'd love to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I mean I love like the Sky Wheatley,

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<v Speaker 2>the Indie Clinton. I love Lily Is it brown? Lily Brown?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it brown? Yeah? Yeah, I love them babies. I

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<v Speaker 2>love that she's just had a baby. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>she's just absolutely in her element right now, and I

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<v Speaker 2>love seeing it because she just I know that she

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<v Speaker 2>went through a rough time, you know, like with her

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<v Speaker 2>mum and stuff. So I just feel like she's just

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<v Speaker 2>found her like the meaning to life. I think, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I don't know something about her. Her content

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<v Speaker 2>has changed since she's had a baby, and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>so wholesome to watch. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I I've been really enjoying her content more recently.

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<v Speaker 1>And you mentioned Sky Wheatly. I mean we've been speaking

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<v Speaker 1>about Sky a lot, especially her fox eye surgery and

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<v Speaker 1>the thing about Sky's I agree. I think she's I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think she has a bad bone in her body,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's so controversial, Like every week there seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be something that she's done that sort of sparked in

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's because she's so honest and actually puts

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<v Speaker 1>all the stuff out there. She doesn't hide a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of what's going on in her life like other influencers too.

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<v Speaker 2>That's and that's the thing, like when you get on

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<v Speaker 2>social media, I feel like I've become quite numb as

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<v Speaker 2>well to what I put out there because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really want to deal with the controversy and the hate.

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<v Speaker 2>Where Sky she's just so brutally honest and it just

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<v Speaker 2>tells it how it is, and I feel like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's just she's so young too, you know, like she's

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<v Speaker 2>just learning through like and she grew up on social

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<v Speaker 2>media as well, so it's just I don't know, it

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<v Speaker 2>is nice to see her grow and become a mum

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, we predicted that she would be canceled again

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<v Speaker 1>this year in our little end of Yew predictions and

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't think that's really happened yet. If anything,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that more people have celebrated her because of

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<v Speaker 1>her appearance. I'm a celect yeah exactly. I think everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>falling ye with her and I think everyone has a

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<v Speaker 1>soft spot for her, like as the young girl from

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<v Speaker 1>bing Brother that we watched, you know, ten years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean away from Sky Wheatley. I don't know, Amy,

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<v Speaker 1>what made you start your TikTok because it started blowing

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<v Speaker 1>up in twenty twenty, and this isn't when everyone sort

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<v Speaker 1>of tried to get on the TikTok bandwagon. But what

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<v Speaker 1>made you start? And I suppose what made your content

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<v Speaker 1>stand out?

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<v Speaker 2>Look I start. I was a consumer of TikTok for ages,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was working and I had just had two kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and I sort of didn't really know, like didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>know what to do with it really, but I always

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<v Speaker 2>sort of wanted to. I don't know, like it was

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<v Speaker 2>weird and how it all happens because I had Billy

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<v Speaker 2>and then Lockdown hit and I was like, well, shit,

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<v Speaker 2>like like I don't even know what where like what

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<v Speaker 2>clicked in my head to make a video. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think like one of my first few ones went viral,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was back when TikTok was like just the

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<v Speaker 2>comedy stuff and like the skits and the like the

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<v Speaker 2>trending sounds and just like coming up with like a

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<v Speaker 2>funny concept to those, and I really kind of I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I think because I was watching and I

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<v Speaker 2>studied TikTok. I follow a lot of like American moms

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<v Speaker 2>that are just freaking so funny so I think I

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<v Speaker 2>just started doing those, to be honest, and just started

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<v Speaker 2>doing the tiktoks and like adding and the skits and

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<v Speaker 2>just like being the parent and the toddler because back

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<v Speaker 2>then my kids were not they wouldn't comply to videos,

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<v Speaker 2>and they still wouldn't. Really, I don't really like to

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<v Speaker 2>put them. I don't really like to put them in

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<v Speaker 2>the skits and stuff. They're sort of in the background

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<v Speaker 2>in the vlogs and the dancing ones and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, back then, they weren't really in it at all,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just I don't really know. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was just timing for me, to be honest. It

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<v Speaker 2>was the right time, the right place, the right sense

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<v Speaker 2>of humor, and it just sort of clicked and it

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<v Speaker 2>all just went off a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And you mentioned your kids obviously said they do appear

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<v Speaker 1>more in your content now. Was that something that you

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<v Speaker 1>worried about sharing about them online? Because we've heard recently

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<v Speaker 1>from Steph Claire Smith and she came out and said

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<v Speaker 1>that she now doesn't want to share her son's face

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<v Speaker 1>online because he gets recognized wherever he goes. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>a concern to you, No, not really, It's never really been.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to sound like a naive to the situation,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think where we live in particular, were so

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<v Speaker 2>out of the city, Like I feel I live a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit rural, so it's not really like I obviously

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, but I just I don't dwell on it,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what I mean? Like I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't show like privacy wise, I don't really show

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on with them. I don't show tantrums. I

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that like whenever I'm filming, they know that

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<v Speaker 2>Mummy's filming video, and like, do you want to be

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<v Speaker 2>in it? Do you not want to be in it?

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<v Speaker 2>Like they don't, and they know when the video when

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<v Speaker 2>the camera's on, and Marley is very my eldest and

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<v Speaker 2>my two oldest, they're just like if they don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be a part of it, they won't. And even

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<v Speaker 2>my three year olds now, she's just like she doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be a part of it. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>force them to do anything. I mean, I still want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about the issues and stuff like that, so

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<v Speaker 2>I make sure that if there's like an issue that

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<v Speaker 2>I want to discuss to kind of open up the

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<v Speaker 2>conversation and share it to TikTok, which you know, advice

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, and it opens up, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like when I do my TikTok's talking about autism or

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<v Speaker 2>tantrums and stuff like that. I just make sure I

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<v Speaker 2>sort of not sharing too much information. I obviously don't

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<v Speaker 2>share them in the videos and just sort of discuss

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on rather than showing what's going on. If

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<v Speaker 2>that may any cent.

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<v Speaker 1>You seem really mindful of it. And I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>a really hard one because even with our sister Kate

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<v Speaker 1>having a baby recently, I know that's been a discussion

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<v Speaker 1>of her. She's like how much do I actually share online?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not like she has a huge personal following.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, most people share photos of their children

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<v Speaker 1>online regardless of if they have a following or not.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the main thing with your content aims

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<v Speaker 1>is that you're the main character, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're too in the background. But it's as you say,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're mindful about what you're sharing, which I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And as Amy said, there's so many parents these days

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<v Speaker 1>who don't have a following, who are constantly sharing so

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<v Speaker 1>much content. So it is a really tough one. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that thing of weighing it up, isn't it. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I hate when people share content about their kids that

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<v Speaker 1>you think that kid is going to be mortified when

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<v Speaker 1>they grow up and they see that they've you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the tantrum kind of content. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I make sure, like you know, like if

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<v Speaker 2>we're potty training or something like, I'll just talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it rather than showing what we do. Like it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like, you know those ones that you definitely have

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<v Speaker 2>to respect your kids privacy in that aspect. And again,

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<v Speaker 2>like I ask my kids if they want to be

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<v Speaker 2>a part of it or not, and I'll make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that they're all okay, But I generally try to keep

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<v Speaker 2>them out of it, but they're always in the background anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny because I actually first came across you when

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<v Speaker 1>you were sharing the contents of some of your lollijer.

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<v Speaker 1>It was these gummy lollies, and I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, Like I have to follow James. You actually

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<v Speaker 1>went viral for showing that you feed your kids at

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<v Speaker 1>three PM. And I think everyone's like, well, this is

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<v Speaker 1>dinner three. It's a fantastic idea. Can you explain like

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<v Speaker 1>the reasoning behind this and how it works.

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<v Speaker 2>I copped a lot of flak for people saying that,

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<v Speaker 2>like I thought that I invented and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to firstly put a disclaimer out that

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<v Speaker 2>I do not think that I invented the three cock dinners.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know they do them all across the world.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely am not the first to do it. I

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<v Speaker 2>think my video just went viral and I talked when

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking about it, and that's just and people

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<v Speaker 2>were just some people were like, yeah, we've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>it for ages, and some people, you know, we're saying

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<v Speaker 2>we've just started it and it's the most amazing thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But basically, we've had so many issues with food from

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<v Speaker 2>day dot to be honest, Like my first child, Marley

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<v Speaker 2>had food aversion, so the minute she turned one, she

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<v Speaker 2>basically didn't really eat much of anything. So I've sort

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<v Speaker 2>of had this really horrible relationship with feeding my children

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<v Speaker 2>from day one. So I've gone through a lot in

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of aspect where they're always changing and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always trying to find ways to feed them. I'm always

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<v Speaker 2>trying to find nutritional foods to put into them and

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<v Speaker 2>try and hide the vegetables wherever I can. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>always been like a topic for us. It's probably been

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<v Speaker 2>the hardest part of parenting in my journey, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it started because Marley started school and

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<v Speaker 2>she came home. She's basically the main one that I

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<v Speaker 2>need to get the most nutrients into because the others

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<v Speaker 2>sort of they eat fruit and here and there, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're all so different and they all eat different things,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm always cooking different meals anyway. But when she

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<v Speaker 2>got home, I found that she was just feeding up

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<v Speaker 2>on snacks and like she was so hungry every single

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<v Speaker 2>time she'd walk through the door because she doesn't need

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<v Speaker 2>anything at lunch, so her lunchbox is always full still,

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<v Speaker 2>so she comes home and she's starving. So I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't I just try to have dinner ready and

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<v Speaker 2>then she can eat her dinner when she gets home.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it just started like working. And it works

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<v Speaker 2>for me too, because I prepped dinner sort of around

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<v Speaker 2>eleven o'clock, so when the babies are asleep, I can

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<v Speaker 2>actually have a rest and I'm not trying to I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not thinking about what I'm going to cook or anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that. It's all done. So it's just sort of

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<v Speaker 2>worked for me because I always like to be one

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<v Speaker 2>step ahead and in like to be able to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of sit down and have a rest. I like to

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<v Speaker 2>have everything done. I like to have like dinner prepared

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<v Speaker 2>and the kitchen cleaned and everything sort of ready to go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just a me problem though, I think when.

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<v Speaker 1>You have such a busy life because away from TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>you also work as a nurse. And it's crazy because

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're seeing more of this where people are

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to follow people who have full time jobs or

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<v Speaker 1>work or you know, actually have a career. How does

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<v Speaker 1>that work though as a nurse, because surely you get

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<v Speaker 1>recognized a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I do. I do. I do. It's it's actually like

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<v Speaker 2>the last sort of few months, I've really noticed like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people recognizing me. Look, it's fine. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like I just forget to be honest. I I

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<v Speaker 2>because I do all my videos basically in the like

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<v Speaker 2>in my home and as I said, we sort of

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<v Speaker 2>live out of the city and stuff like that, and

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<v Speaker 2>people do recognize me down here. But as I said

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<v Speaker 2>as well, it's like a really safe community around here,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's just kind of like I mean, I say

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<v Speaker 2>high to anyone on the street anyway. So it's sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like just that little bit of like that extra

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<v Speaker 2>element of they know everything about my life, but weren't

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<v Speaker 2>no working. I'm only really working as much to keep

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<v Speaker 2>my registration at the moment, because you know, as you said,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's really quite the logistics of me working isn't

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<v Speaker 2>really even worth it at this point. It's more just

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<v Speaker 2>to keep my registration so I can go back when

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<v Speaker 2>all the kids go back to school. So because everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>in such a different routine, like having only one at

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<v Speaker 2>school and then two at daycare and then one always

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<v Speaker 2>with me, Like it's just no one's in the same

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<v Speaker 2>routine yet, So even the thought of me going to work,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a logistical nightmare at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you think you'd ever want to become a

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<v Speaker 1>full time content creator? Is that something that's on the

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<v Speaker 1>cards for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Look like, I already am a full time content creator

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<v Speaker 2>and a nurse, and I would never ever ever stop nursing.

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<v Speaker 2>It just that would be ridiculous, would be really silly

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<v Speaker 2>for me, because you know, like like I understand other

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<v Speaker 2>people do do that, and I completely agree with, Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's completely their decision. But for me personally, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm thirty nine, Like I'm not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>relevant forever on this app, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm very realistic with how relevant I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>be for what amount of time and to give up

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<v Speaker 2>my neur Like I studied for years to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>become a nurse, and I've worked really hard to get

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<v Speaker 2>to the position that I am at the hospital where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm able to just kind of work when I want to,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what I mean? So for me to

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<v Speaker 2>give that up would just be silly. And I love

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<v Speaker 2>being a nurse. I'm so passionate about being a nurse.

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<v Speaker 2>But i love social media as well, So I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I've got the best of both worlds, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a double edged sword, isn't it, Because people follow

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<v Speaker 1>you because you're relatable and they want to see you

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<v Speaker 1>as a working mum And that's sort of a is

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<v Speaker 1>a strange one, now, isn't it, Because there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>content creators. For example, there's that guy who posts about

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<v Speaker 1>his nine to five, which looks a bit soul destroyed,

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<v Speaker 1>like he could have his job because he's got so

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities but he can't. We've had the same conversations too,

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<v Speaker 1>like I feel sad, like us being like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying you're thirty nine and like we're thirty five,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like, as women, you think, oh my, like,

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<v Speaker 1>is no one going to be interested when I reach

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<v Speaker 1>my forties?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's a sad. It's a risk, isn't it. Social media, podcasting,

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff. You just don't know what the future is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, but it's something that I really enjoyed the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like I'm I'm really happy just writing this

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<v Speaker 2>wave while I can like for me to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to stay at home and make some money. And but

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<v Speaker 2>not only that, like I love creating videos just to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I love being interesting, I love being relevant, I love

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<v Speaker 2>being funny. I love making people laugh. Like that's all

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<v Speaker 2>about what social media and my content is like. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the reason I've got so many followers

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<v Speaker 2>is because people feel that they see that they see

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<v Speaker 2>that I enjoy what I'm doing, So you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like that's something that social media misses. Like there's

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<v Speaker 2>only like there's a lot of negativity out there, like

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<v Speaker 2>if we can get like I follow the people who

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<v Speaker 2>I follow are just so uplifting. They're so energetic, they're

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<v Speaker 2>so charismatic, They've got they're so interesting, So like I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be that for someone else, do you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? So yeah, it's it's really fulfilling at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment, and I feel like that's another reason I

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<v Speaker 2>started it is because like when you are a mom.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't want this to sound negative, but like

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<v Speaker 2>when we were in lockdown and I had three children

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<v Speaker 2>under four, it was like everything was so similar, Like

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<v Speaker 2>the day was the same, we'd waker. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>I had this little outlet of TikTok where I could

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<v Speaker 2>be funny and I could be relevant and people were

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<v Speaker 2>like watching and love and really enjoying it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>love making people laugh. I think that's my main sort

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<v Speaker 2>of reason. I love making people laugh, and I love

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<v Speaker 2>allowing people to see my life so they don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>so alone, do you know what I mean? Like being

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<v Speaker 2>a mom like some like when I went through everything

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<v Speaker 2>with Marley's autism diagnosis, I just felt like I was

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<v Speaker 2>the only one going through it, Like what like no,

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<v Speaker 2>like and fussy eaters, like like, what did I do

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<v Speaker 2>to get this? Like I have not done anything wrong

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<v Speaker 2>and I've got these children that don't eat anything. And

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<v Speaker 2>then as soon as I started posting about it, every

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<v Speaker 2>like there was such an influx of people going, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, same, same, same. So we're all like this

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<v Speaker 2>to build this community where we could just bounce off

0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.479
<v Speaker 2>each other and people didn't feel so alone, and like

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<v Speaker 2>people chat in my comments section about like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>tricks and like ideas that they have too, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>just sort of helpful and uplifting. I think. So even

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<v Speaker 2>though we're going through this sucky time trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>vegetables into our children, and it's like, you know, someone

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<v Speaker 2>across the world is doing the same thing, So it

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<v Speaker 2>feels nice to be connected in a way. That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>People can be so critical of social media and things.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously there's negatives that come with it, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many positives as well. And I know, for

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<v Speaker 1>Kate at the moment being on maternity leave, I think

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously Amy and I don't have children, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>very hard for her to relate to what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in our lives and vice versa isolating. The first time

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<v Speaker 1>you're on maternity leave. It's probably the most isolating time

0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:30.959
<v Speaker 1>for women because you don't have that support system if

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<v Speaker 1>you work colleagues. And even with Kate, like she hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>joined like a mother's group or anything like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think for her, like she's really resonated with your

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<v Speaker 1>content and she's like love following mums in the same

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<v Speaker 1>stage of life. So it's so important, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's so wonderful that people like you are opening up

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<v Speaker 1>about it because we I mean, you think about our mums,

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<v Speaker 1>they probably had not much support at all, and there'd

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<v Speaker 1>be so many unanswered questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh crazy, Like I just because like Kate especially like

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<v Speaker 2>when she was said that she's like feeding at the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, oh, I remember that, because I was

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<v Speaker 2>very strict like Kate Kate is and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is feeding time. No one like we're not leaving

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<v Speaker 2>the house, this is it. And like I didn't lose

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<v Speaker 2>any friends because everyone's still there. They're just sort of

0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:15.040
<v Speaker 2>they're letting you do your thing, do you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? Like you know, I'm sure friends didn't call

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<v Speaker 2>me because they knew of my strict schedule. But it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that they don't like me. They're just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to mind, you know, minding my business. So I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, and like, and that's the thing. Was like, like,

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<v Speaker 2>as you said, like, I have no idea what my

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<v Speaker 2>mom did. My mom had me in Venezuela and she

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<v Speaker 2>had my sister who is eighteen months older than me,

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<v Speaker 2>and she lived in like I think they're in some

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<v Speaker 2>expat community, and she didn't know any Spanish, and like

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<v Speaker 2>it was just I have no idea how she would

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<v Speaker 2>have done it. She wouldn't have been able to watch

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<v Speaker 2>TV or anything because it would all have been in

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<v Speaker 2>a different language. I'm like, how did you not? How

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<v Speaker 2>did you survive that? Like that would have been so pressing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bit like our mum having triplets, because we've

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<v Speaker 1>spoken to her and we're like, how did you even

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<v Speaker 1>leave the house with three children? She's like, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>for like over a year. Because yeah, you just hear

0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:13.359
<v Speaker 1>these stories from your parents and you're like, Wow, you

0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.639
<v Speaker 1>guys are incredible. And I think something else that probably

0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:19.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of your audience has connected with is that

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<v Speaker 1>you have candidly shared about your challenges with sobriety in

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<v Speaker 1>your early twenties. If you do feel comfortable talking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>are you able to share with listeners your journey?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, look, I let people know that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sober, and I went through this hard time and

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't really I've never really kind of gone

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<v Speaker 2>into it, not because I don't, not because I'm ashamed

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<v Speaker 2>or anything. It is definitely it's who I am. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>It's a part of my story, but I don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want that to be my content, if that makes

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<v Speaker 2>any sense. Yeah, because and like I want people to

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<v Speaker 2>know that, yes, I'm sober, Yes I went through a

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<v Speaker 2>hard time, but this is what happens when you give up,

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is my life. My life now is because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not drinking, do you know what I mean? Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, like there's a lot of Whenever

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<v Speaker 2>I mention it, I get a lot of questions. But

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<v Speaker 2>the second I sort of start answering those questions, my

0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:22.080
<v Speaker 2>whole content will become that. And as I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not ashamed of it, and I do want to help

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<v Speaker 2>in a way, but I feel like i'd be helping

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<v Speaker 2>more by sharing what the best that comes out of

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<v Speaker 2>becoming sober, Like what what you can have if you

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<v Speaker 2>give up you know that hard if you give up

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<v Speaker 2>the drink. Like honestly, it was. It was a really

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<v Speaker 2>tough time for me. Like my whole twenties is a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a blur. I just I started drinking like normal,

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<v Speaker 2>like normally, I think I liked to party a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more than other people. But like I still you know,

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<v Speaker 2>managed to you know, have a steady job through the week.

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<v Speaker 2>I studied a whole bunch of things in my twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to tay If, I went to college, and

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<v Speaker 2>all these different sort of career paths, but none of

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<v Speaker 2>them really resonated with me as much as nursing does.

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<v Speaker 2>And I went from in my late twenties, I sort

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<v Speaker 2>of was in and out of rehab for ages, and

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<v Speaker 2>then finally got sober at twenty seven, and then met

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<v Speaker 2>my husband at twenty eight, and then did my nursing degree,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just all kind of everything happened in a

0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:28.680
<v Speaker 2>very quick time, Like I got married, had four kids,

0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:30.680
<v Speaker 2>and all that kind of stuff, have my nursing degree,

0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:33.719
<v Speaker 2>We bought a house, we built a house. It just

0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:38.880
<v Speaker 2>so many good things came from me become like finally

0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:40.240
<v Speaker 2>stopping drinking.

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.240
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of become good that so yeah, yeah, And

0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:46.640
<v Speaker 1>because I mean, I don't drink, and that's just been

0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:48.720
<v Speaker 1>a choice. I've just never really got into it. And

0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:52.640
<v Speaker 1>it's funny because a few people, like my husband, he

0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:55.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't drink for I think it was like three months,

0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:57.800
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, I actually feel so good. And it's

0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:00.119
<v Speaker 1>good that people are talking about that as well. But

0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it's important, as you said, for people to

0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:05.280
<v Speaker 1>see what's on the other side of you changing your life.

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's really positive to see someone who's made a

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:10.399
<v Speaker 1>huge success of their life and the fact that you

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:12.919
<v Speaker 1>got through it. You did touch on your husband. I

0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:14.800
<v Speaker 1>have to bring this up. He doesn't like being in

0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:15.400
<v Speaker 1>your content?

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Does he?

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I can relate to that with my.

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:21.119
<v Speaker 2>It's not so much that he doesn't like being in

0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:24.000
<v Speaker 2>my content. He's just never liked photos or videos of

0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:27.879
<v Speaker 2>himself like that. Even on our wedding day was it

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:29.960
<v Speaker 2>was a struggle to get photos like it's now it's

0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.800
<v Speaker 2>not really about it's not really about social media. It's

0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 2>not really there's no like real kind of I feel

0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:37.679
<v Speaker 2>I feel like some of my followers want the like

0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 2>the the duty details. I'm like, it's really nothing. It's

0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:44.600
<v Speaker 2>really nothing more than he just doesn't like photos of

0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:48.400
<v Speaker 2>himself and he never has, like I don't think I can.

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I think his mom has given me like three or

0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:55.520
<v Speaker 2>four photos of his whole childhood. So it's just him, like,

0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 2>it's just not he doesn't like it. So and I

0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:02.360
<v Speaker 2>would never force him, Like he's happy now to kind

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:07.119
<v Speaker 2>of be in the background, because he realizes, you know,

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 2>this is our life now and he's really supportive of

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:13.800
<v Speaker 2>that and he's really happy for me. So he's like

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:16.640
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't mind being in the background. He just would never,

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, actively be on camera.

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, while we're talking about your husband, which I'm sure

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 1>he loves us discussing him on a podcasts.

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, he really doesn't mind anymore. He just doesn't want

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:29.719
<v Speaker 2>to be on the camera.

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I get it. Obviously, this is a Christmas

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:36.680
<v Speaker 1>special episode and we want to talk about Christmas. I

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:39.560
<v Speaker 1>want to know because everyone, I don't know people's husbands

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 1>are different at Christmas time, but I want to know,

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 1>what is your husband like? Is he like a last

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 1>minute shopper? Do you have to do most of the

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 1>shopping for the kids or is he quite a good

0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 1>guy when it comes to present buying.

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I do most of the shopping. When it comes to

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 2>like clothes and books and toys, I don't go too crazy.

0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:00.199
<v Speaker 2>I've set the bar very low with our kids, so

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:02.720
<v Speaker 2>they get Santa presence and they usually just get one

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 2>joint from me and him. But in saying that, like

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 2>he's very good at finding things that the kids like,

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:16.159
<v Speaker 2>so like, for example, Marley like surfing. So when it

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 2>comes when it comes to presence, they say, it's all

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 2>or nothing for him. So it's like he will research

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 2>the best board for a seven year old and like

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 2>he gets really into it that way. But he has

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:31.679
<v Speaker 2>to sort of know what they like. So Indy, I

0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 2>think he's going to get some art stuff in it,

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:36.399
<v Speaker 2>and he'll just randomly come up and they'll be like,

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.119
<v Speaker 2>I've got this really great idea for a Christmas present

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:41.680
<v Speaker 2>football and I'm like, yeah, that's great, do it, let's

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:45.879
<v Speaker 2>do it. We'll wrap it up. Yeah. Yeah, So like

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:47.479
<v Speaker 2>he had, he's a thinker.

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you spoke last year a lot on your

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 1>TikTok about Christmas budgeting because Sophie and I were having

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:56.239
<v Speaker 1>this very discussion the other day about like how much

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:58.160
<v Speaker 1>you actually spend on a child because it's the first

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.480
<v Speaker 1>time we've had a child in the family buy for.

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:02.879
<v Speaker 1>And I even had this discussion with my husband. He

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, the kids don't know what they're getting, you know,

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:07.919
<v Speaker 1>when they're a baby, so it doesn't matter. I'm like,

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's your take on that, Like how

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>much do you think you should spend on your children.

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:14.639
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent with your parents, with your husband on

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 2>that one? You honestly, for Kate's baby, you could get

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 2>them a set of keys and they'd be right, like, honestly,

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 2>like a potato masher, like seriously, like I am not

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 2>like I love the active giving. I love them opening

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 2>presents and stuff like that, but they really don't need much.

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 2>They really don't need much. And if you set the barlow,

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 2>like I said, so when I say set the barlow,

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:44.160
<v Speaker 2>they're still getting presents. They're getting some books, they're getting

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:47.120
<v Speaker 2>some clothes, they're getting some toys. Of course, of course

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:49.399
<v Speaker 2>they're getting toys and toys that they like too. I

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 2>think this is kind of last year in this year,

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 2>like the first sort of years where the bigger girls

0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 2>are telling me exactly what they want. But then like

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 2>in saying that who, they'll be happy with whatever if

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 2>that makes an his ends, I know what they like.

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:09.120
<v Speaker 2>So as long as they get a few really exciting ones.

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 2>And then they've got the books that they open the

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 2>presence and they're like, it's just the fact that they're

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 2>opening the paper is actually more exciting than what's inside. Yeah,

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.119
<v Speaker 2>because the girls are a bit older, I think my

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:24.919
<v Speaker 2>budget is obviously going to be a bit bigger and

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:27.719
<v Speaker 2>we don't need They don't need any bikes or anything

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 2>at the moment, so I think we're going to be

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 2>pretty cruisy this year. Honestly, we're just pretty humble when

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:36.679
<v Speaker 2>it comes to Christmas. And I mean that in like

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 2>the least dickiest way, Like I don't want to be

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 2>like a pick me kind of girl, but like we

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 2>really just keep it really low key and on that

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 2>we go to my husband's house usually for Christmas. If

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 2>not the day, then like we pick a day. It

0:27:55.280 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 2>depends on his siblings and his parents spoil them so

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 2>and they get so much stuff from my parents as well,

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:06.439
<v Speaker 2>So I think, you know, as long as there's stuff

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 2>in the Santa Sax, you're fine. I'm probably even gonna

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.159
<v Speaker 2>say fifty dollars a kid, to be honest.

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Yet, you know, like those tiktoks from those American kids

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and they're doing the PowerPoint presentations of what they want

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 1>and then they do the whole in they're like they drunk.

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 2>All I thought that was satire for so long. I

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 2>honestly thought, I thought there's no way, like I get

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 2>it when the kids are a bit older. I understand

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 2>because like you know that, like an ad comes on

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 2>on TV and my kids are all over it. But

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 2>at this age, they don't know anything else. Like we

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 2>don't have a Nintendo, don't They don't have game boys

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 2>or anything like that. They have their iPads and that's

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 2>it because they don't know any different. I think the

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 2>second we get a Nintendo, and we're not really a

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Nintendo family, so I don't think we would ever really

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 2>get one until they go to someone else's house and say, oh,

0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:59.479
<v Speaker 2>they've got this Nintendo. I really want it, because they

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 2>would have no idea what Nintendo is until they see

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>it somewhere else, you know what I mean? So as

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 2>long as yeah, so they don't know anything else, so

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 2>that the only way they're going to know about something

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 2>is through you. So if you just keep it really

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 2>low and just make the magic of Christmas be something else,

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 2>like the act of giving. Like maybe even this year,

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I think I might get Marley to, you know, give

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>her a little bit of money to get presents for

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 2>her siblings and stuff like that, so they can give

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:30.479
<v Speaker 2>to each other. And I like the fact that, you know,

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 2>I can take the big girls out and we can

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 2>go by Daddy a present and they get them involved

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 2>in that side of it rather than them just getting things.

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>So true about the magic of Christmas and making it

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>special for them. Because growing up, we had a girl

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 1>at our school and her parents would just go next

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>level about making it magic, especially on Christmas Eve, so

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 1>they'd get up on the roof and they would stomp around.

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you and your husband do anything like that? Like

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I saw, for instance, Steph Claire Smith, they were doing

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>the whole ritual where they'd nibble on all the carrots

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and like, what's in trouble for that?

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Though?

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is there something that you've done that people? Yeah,

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 1>there were all these like grinches who are like, how

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>dare you? My child has seen this and it's like,

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 1>but why is your five years old.

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 2>I got Actually I got a bit of slack for

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 2>it too, because I've made the night before Christmas eves

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 2>like being sent to basically and wrapping all the presents,

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.440
<v Speaker 2>and I got a lot of people saying like, you

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 2>should have put a trigger warning in front of this,

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, oh, really, like why are you showing.

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I blame TikTok. There should be parameters up, maybe if

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 1>you're ontok trigger warning for everything these days like that

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>now things Yeah.

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, And I like even to even as like

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 2>far as me using sugar these days, like I need

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 2>to put a trigger warn It's just like, yeah, sugar

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 2>and vegetable oil. Apparently I'm not allowed to like or

0:30:53.760 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 2>canal canol whatever it's called. God, but no. We so

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 2>we do the carrot. We do the carrot, and then

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 2>we do the Santa sax obviously, and then we leave

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 2>a biscuit out. We make biscuits. So that's one of

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:14.479
<v Speaker 2>my cooking things. I just love, like the Christmas cookie,

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 2>like just the sugar cookie. I love those, and we

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 2>decorate them and then we leave one of those out

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 2>for Santa with a glass of milk. So yeah, that's

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 2>sort of all we kind of do, like we don't

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 2>go too crazy, we put Christmas lights on, we love

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 2>a Christmas tree. We get the real ones. But I

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 2>heard your episode of them of the Christmas trees what

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 2>are they called?

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 1>The We like literally have only recently started getting fake

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>trees because I swore against and like, We've always been

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>a real Christmas tree family. And I hate that I've

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>become that wanker with a nice like fake tree. Okay,

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>So I mean this is how into real Christmas trees

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 1>we are. So like, for thirty five years, I've always

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>had a real Christmas tree. And then my husband, who

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>doesn't even like Chris mess he connected the dots that

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I like real Christmas trees and when and bought a

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 1>whole packet of like Christmas tree seedlings to grow at

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 1>his grandpa's property and so because he realized how expensive

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 1>they were, and he's like, in fifteen years, we're going

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>to have a whole load of Christmas trees if I

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 1>get one of them for free. But I love that. Yeah,

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like getting a real Christmas tree is

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>so much fun with kids, Like I've always said to

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>my husband when I have kids, like I'm like, we're

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>going to get two Christmas trees and we'll just have

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>a real one in another room, except when they probably

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>want to pick out the most expensive. I'm assuming, do

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>you is that what you do? Is that like you

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>have a special day where you go and pick the

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Christmas tree up?

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So yeah, I've always been a real Christmas tree girl,

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 2>and my husband has always had a fake one, but

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 2>they're fake one is epic too, but like, yeah, I

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 2>just something about the smell of the tree is real

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 2>nostalgic for me. We usually go to there's a nursery

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 2>in town on and depending on it's che usually just

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 2>goes and takes the big girls with him, but when

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 2>the kids grow up a little bit, we'll probably all

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 2>go as a family.

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:16.719
<v Speaker 1>You touched on sugar cookies and we love debating the

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 1>top Christmas recipes. So I want to run you through

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 1>some recipes and well not recipes, with some dishes and

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>get your rating either if it's a top tier Christmas dish,

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 1>a mid tier Christmas dish, or if it's in the

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>meth tier.

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 2>So okay, pa over oh top tier absolute banger. That

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 2>is like, that's what that is something that I look

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 2>forward to every Christmas I love that.

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I agree, I have to, I have to actually disagree.

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I do love a path I do love a Pablo.

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I totally get it. You're either a pad or you're not.

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I do like it, but I think because our mum

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 1>serves it in summer time, not just for Christmas. So

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>that's why it's not like a QUINTI because it breaks up. Like, okay,

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 1>so the next one is putting. We'll get your take

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>on putting first before we delve into that debate.

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:11.320
<v Speaker 2>But see, I'm I reckon you're either a pav or

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 2>a pudding, and I would definitely be a pav I think.

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I love I love pudding, and I love

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 2>like the warm you know, warm and up and have

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 2>the cream one and stuff like that. But like in

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 2>the middle of summer, it's not it's not the dessert

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 2>of choice, do you know what I mean?

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Like, I'm you have to be sitting under the air

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 1>conditioning almost to be able to consider putting, especially if

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>you've got podcast. Last Christmas was cold in Adelaide and

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>it like just felt wintery, so it was like perfect,

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>like the one perfect time to have pudding. What you

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>need is a little bit of pudding and ice cream

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>and then like the path as well when you break up. Yeah,

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:48.959
<v Speaker 1>yeah you need both.

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 2>But I usually, yeah, I usually have like a selection

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 2>of everything. I've got a huge, like a massive variety

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to food, Like I'm not really like

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 2>I would never say no to anything really, so putting

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 2>Pavlova like, it's all just delicious to me. So yeah,

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.959
<v Speaker 2>but I think Pavlova's is the one that I had

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 2>growing up.

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>You know what it is? I think about putting. I

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know, did your family do this where they'd put

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 1>the coins in the pudding? No, you don't like because

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 1>remember we spoke about it, I think last year and

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>people were like some people go, oh yeah, yeah I

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:26.760
<v Speaker 1>used to have coins in my putting, and other people didn't.

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 1>But it's an English traditional, yeah, like our auntie one year,

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:32.799
<v Speaker 1>I remember she gave out. It was like, if you've

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 1>got a piece of pudding, you almost got six dollars

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>in coins out of this pudding. So of course, even

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 1>if you didn't like it, you wanted it to get

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 1>the money. So yeah, that would be a good service.

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Terry, like what to boil it?

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think I think it's like normally you meant

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:51.319
<v Speaker 1>to use like I think the old currency you were

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 1>able to boil it up I think, but now, for example,

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 1>so they just put it on the side of the plate.

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't know they sprinkle it in like I mean,

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:00.040
<v Speaker 1>this was in the nineties, so when people probab we

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:01.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't carry about that sort of stuff.

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I would never like, don't do that

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 2>on TikTok. Honestly, I said, my kids pop on yesterday.

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:07.839
<v Speaker 2>I got so much ship for that.

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, they won't be putting coins desert chocolate coins.

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 1>That's actually one of those tis problem.

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Would bloody child Services on me?

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>That TikTok would probably go off because of everyone in

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 1>the commons.

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 2>There's a way to go viral on usually yeah, they

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 2>usually do it. Probably would get taken down for community

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:30.359
<v Speaker 2>like community violations.

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:33.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, everyone listening, please don't put coins and you're putting them,

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:34.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe just.

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Know that that might It's like that ice cream cake

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 2>that comes that Fredo ice cream cake that comes with

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 2>the little Freddos in them. My kids don't even really

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 2>like ice cream cake, but whenever we go to my

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:50.320
<v Speaker 2>in laws, they always have that cake for a birthday

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:53.320
<v Speaker 2>and they will eat it because it's like it's a

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:56.359
<v Speaker 2>competition to see, like how many freddos that you get?

0:36:57.719 --> 0:36:58.439
<v Speaker 2>That is so cooy.

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 1>The same for the version of the pints of the pudding.

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so on.

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 1>TikTok trends, there's I'm sure you've seen it. There's that

0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>viral bree and cranberry puff pastry reef that everyone keeps doing.

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, is that like, do you reckon that

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 1>would be top tier, mid tier or just men?

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 2>I reckon that would be I mean, it's not like

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 2>it's not in my head like it would be freaking delicious,

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 2>don't get me wrong, but it's not like something that

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I would think, Oh, for Christmas this year, I'm going

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 2>to do a bree cranberry reef. Like it's not really

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 2>traditional for me, but if someone brought it, I'd eat

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 2>it for sure. So like probably mid tier.

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:41.479
<v Speaker 1>To wrap that up on a controversial one, What about

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 1>egg nog? Is that something you can do?

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 2>People like itself? Yeah? I bought some last year because

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 2>it was on special. I'd never tried it before. It

0:37:57.120 --> 0:37:59.319
<v Speaker 2>just goes like vanilla malt. But I think the one

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 2>that I got was just one of them. I think

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:04.439
<v Speaker 2>eggnog is one of those things that like you've got

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 2>to have the real deal for it to be eggnog.

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 2>But then it gets like distributed to all these like

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 2>different kind of brands and they just kind of put

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 2>their own twang on it. But like, what is actually eggnog?

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 2>It's got like ram in it, it's warm, it's you know,

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:21.400
<v Speaker 2>and there's stuff that we would buy down at the

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 2>shop that's like the same brand as the custard brand,

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 2>like Peter's or whatever. They're not going to be creating

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:29.479
<v Speaker 2>like the real eggnog, are they. So I don't know,

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 2>but I would definitely not drink that. And I don't

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 2>think my family has ever had.

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I know, last year you had this viral video. Oh sorry,

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:40.479
<v Speaker 1>it might have been this year there was a viral

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 1>video where you showed how you repurpose some of the

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>kids leftovers. Is leftover is a big thing at Christmas

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:49.279
<v Speaker 1>time for you? Is there any sort of like go

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>to recipes that come to mind?

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 2>We if we did, like we don't actually do a

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 2>family like we don't actually whole host Christmas at ours.

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 2>We go to who again, we go to my in laws?

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 2>So she but then she always like divvys up all

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 2>the leftovers and everyone takes their own packet. So I'm yeah,

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 2>but I don't think there's much you could do like

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 2>with but obviously there is, like with Christmas ham and

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, but I think my husband's going to

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:21.319
<v Speaker 2>be eating that ham before I'm able to kind of

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:25.799
<v Speaker 2>do anything with it, to be honest. But honestly, the

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:30.719
<v Speaker 2>repurposing videos and stuff only really happened recently with just

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 2>the amount of like with my fourth now eating as well,

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 2>there's just so much waste and it just gets to

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:42.320
<v Speaker 2>a point where I just couldn't handle throwing it out anymore.

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:47.320
<v Speaker 2>So I was just, yeah, I just but it's usually

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 2>only breakfast stuff, if I'm completely honest, or sandwich crusts

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 2>and things like that. But when it comes to dinner, like,

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to go reheating chicken three or four times.

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:01.200
<v Speaker 2>It's just it's about a sound treat thing as well.

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:03.839
<v Speaker 2>And my hat is gonna jump on that one too,

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 2>because they think that I'm cooking up like snotty cereal

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:09.799
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, but it's not the case at all.

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 2>It's usually the cereal that I pour and I give

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:15.359
<v Speaker 2>it to them because I'm just on autopilot and that's

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 2>what they had yesterday. And then they look at it

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, no, I want some toast, And I'm like,

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 2>are you are you kidding me? Like it's just eat

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 2>that and the like there's no way I can force

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 2>my child to eat like it's just and then I'm

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:30.239
<v Speaker 2>not gonna I'm not gonna sit there and like tell

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 2>them to go hungry or eat it. Like that's just

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 2>not the parenting style I have. So I'm like, Okay,

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:37.719
<v Speaker 2>it's usually my fault anyway, because as I said, I

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 2>go on autopilot and I'm just making the same thing

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:42.239
<v Speaker 2>as they had yesterday. But maybe they weren't want the

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 2>same thing as they had yesterday.

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure all the trus did have an issue if

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>you were just like wasting food and throwing it out too.

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like you can never wait with people there.

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did this this bistle, add this vacuum ad

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 2>and I poured a few little cocoa pops on the

0:40:56.040 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 2>ground and they ate it up. So now like, who's

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 2>the hypocrite? Like, oh my god, yeah, totally, I can't win. Honestly,

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 2>It's just it's crazy.

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:10.719
<v Speaker 1>How do you deal with the criticism, because I know,

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 1>even like on a smaller level with our podcast, I

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:16.400
<v Speaker 1>found the criticism hard and I find myself going and

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:19.760
<v Speaker 1>reading negative comments. Do you what's your sort of tactic

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 1>with dealing with it?

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't. I don't read the forums anymore. Because

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:33.359
<v Speaker 2>there was one one sort of trail of one what

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:36.799
<v Speaker 2>do they even call? Because it t one? Oh no,

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:42.319
<v Speaker 2>that was what was it? What the other? No, there's

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 2>another credit? Yeah, yeah, So there was a Reddit post

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:49.919
<v Speaker 2>and it was like it was horrible, but it wasn't

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 2>about me. It was about one of my daughters. So

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 2>after I read that, Yeah, after I read that, I

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm not going on anymore. And that was

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 2>probably about six months ago, and I was just like,

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:03.840
<v Speaker 2>that's it. I'm done. And then ever since i've stopped

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 2>reading that, I'm pretty good, Like I'm pretty okay with

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 2>the comments that come up because they're just so ridiculous. Like,

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 2>but the forums, that's where I found myself sort of

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 2>going into a little bit of a hole with because

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 2>it's just they're just literally making up stories and you've

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:22.880
<v Speaker 2>got no way to defend yourself and there are people

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 2>on there defending you. But like it's just honestly, it

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 2>did my head in not being able to defend myself,

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 2>and for like like trying to work out how they

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 2>even came up with that, for example, like taking my

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:40.839
<v Speaker 2>kids to the pool. There was this one thing where

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 2>they were saying that I was just sitting there on

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:46.280
<v Speaker 2>my phone and my kids are just in the pool

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 2>by themselves. I was like, what do you mean my kids?

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:56.239
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean? Like, how would I take how

0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:58.160
<v Speaker 2>would that even be possible?

0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>It's just awful when it's just a flat out and

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 1>as you said, you can't defend yourself. And I just

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:05.799
<v Speaker 1>think that those like they really need to have some

0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:09.239
<v Speaker 1>sort of regulations around those forums because then, like I mean,

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:12.520
<v Speaker 1>even though as well, like I don't understand how they

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 1>can get along. Something I find crazy about tattle Life

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:18.959
<v Speaker 1>obviously not read, but tatle Life is that you can't

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 1>even join it without getting a referral link. So even

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 1>if you did want to jump in there and defend yourself,

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:26.880
<v Speaker 1>which probably wouldn't be a good idea, be the worst idea,

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:28.799
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just saying, even if you did, you can't

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 1>even get on there. Like I always say this to

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Sophie as well like sensitive, so something like tattle Life,

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, they toout it as it's a snark site,

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 1>and so I just think if you go in with

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the mentality of they're never going to say anything nice

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 1>about you, like it's literally your place to be vile.

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:50.839
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's I think when them red it's

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 1>one step further. Who takes a thread on a child.

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 2>You don't like? It was like it was the most

0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:00.800
<v Speaker 2>horrible thing, like it was talking about their way as well,

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Like it was just the most disgusting post and it

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 2>had been deleted, so it was just the comments underneath,

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 2>so I didn't actually read the post. It was just

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:13.479
<v Speaker 2>the comments underneath, just alluding to the fact that that's

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 2>what the person originally posted. And it was just so

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 2>disgusting that I just almost threw my phone and just

0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 2>said never again. But then but like going past that,

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:28.839
<v Speaker 2>just the comments that I get, like they honestly, they

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 2>don't get to me anymore. I don't think I ever

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 2>really did, because it's just like you're old, you're ugly,

0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 2>your styles.

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Would like those things are true at all, I don't

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:40.879
<v Speaker 1>really matter.

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's more like, honestly, it's just the

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 2>ones usually that go viral. So it's a catch twenty

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 2>two when you go viral, because it's like it opens

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 2>you up to this dark web where they're just saying

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 2>things because they just like I don't even know why.

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 2>But to be honest, I really don't care. Honestly, a

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 2>lot of of those negative comments actually fuel my content

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:06.280
<v Speaker 2>and you get a lot of engagement when you snap

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 2>back at comments like that. So to be honest, like

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<v Speaker 2>bring them on because they are actually feeding feeding my content.

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<v Speaker 2>They're making me more relevant and I just like that

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't even realize that they do it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think so I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we shouldn't end it. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we shouldn't And even though that was a really positive

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<v Speaker 1>sentiment you had, I feel like we shouldn't end the

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas episode talking about trolls. I want to know one

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<v Speaker 1>last question about what do you want for Christmas this year?

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<v Speaker 1>Because anyone that's listening that knows you, here's a good

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<v Speaker 1>way just to drop it so you actually get what

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<v Speaker 1>you want. Question to throw that wasn't in the approved questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Abe, you know what, And I don't want this to

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<v Speaker 2>sound it's going to sound cheesy. But my husband and

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<v Speaker 2>I actually we like we get so much throughout the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just it's crazy, like with my line of job.

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 2>With my line of work, Shay used to be a

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<v Speaker 2>sponsored surfer, so he still kind of get whatever he wants. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's like I don't really feel like we need

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<v Speaker 2>things all. I just love this time of year, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when the sun starts to go down at like eight o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>like yesterday at six point thirty in the afternoon, like

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<v Speaker 2>the kids were on the trampoline jumping with the sprinkler,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just that's all I want. I just want everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>like just to have a really magical Christmas. That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm and I know that sounds really cheesy, but honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I have everything I need. You know, I just got

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<v Speaker 2>the I just got the ad with Bistle vacuum, So

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<v Speaker 2>I just that's sort of like been the most special

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I've got for a long time because at

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 2>vacuums and it mops. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, you know what, your husband's probably sitting here being

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:51.880
<v Speaker 1>like I've listened to this so I can get like

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<v Speaker 1>the hot tip and want to get you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what that's so true about vacuum cleaners though I had

0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 1>never become I got a Dyson vacuum cleaner like four

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, and I literally, I mean I paid for it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I literally became the biggest advocate for this vacuum cleaner, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, it's just so yeah, it's It's one

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<v Speaker 2>of those things that you just you don't realize you

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<v Speaker 2>need until you've got it, and you're like, what was

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 2>I doing without this?

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<v Speaker 1>I think Hat wants one of those, actually, So she

0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:26.480
<v Speaker 1>flagged that Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good one though, the Bissel. It's a really

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 2>good one, No, honestly, but like I don't We've got

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<v Speaker 2>I've got enough. I've got too many clothes, I've got jewelry,

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:40.279
<v Speaker 2>I've got makeup, I've got everything. It's just I would

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<v Speaker 2>prefer to give this year, I think. And yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>sort of the mentality I'm going with. And my husband too,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he doesn't really need anything, So I think we're

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna try and focus on spending our money on

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<v Speaker 2>the kids and just making Christmas really special.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're not planning on buying your husband a boat

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<v Speaker 1>like Sarah's day. I don't know if you remember that

0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 1>back in both was that too? Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>Did she get a boat or she gave him a boat?

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a speed boat would of course, like well,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my husband was hard at that, Like he was

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<v Speaker 1>so envious when he saw that pop up. He's like,

0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:13.319
<v Speaker 1>where's my boat. I'm like, I'm so sorry we're not

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<v Speaker 1>in the same tax bracket.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's not forget that. There's day is worth millions.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we're just we're just very very basic bitches down

0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:28.280
<v Speaker 2>here in We're not like pulling, like we're just living

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 2>in this really old cool house and like there's just

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<v Speaker 2>we're just happy with sort of the basics at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I don't think I'll be getting him much.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously we get something that like so the kids can

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:46.399
<v Speaker 2>see us unwrapped stuff, but it's usually just I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if my husband gets me at last year, he

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<v Speaker 2>got me a dress to wear for Christmas, which was

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<v Speaker 2>really nice, and I opened that and I got him

0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:57.240
<v Speaker 2>some barbecue tools or something like it's really not crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Idsted he got your address. I'm laughing because Amy's hus

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<v Speaker 1>been like when they first I think it was one

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<v Speaker 1>of their first Christmases together, he bought her a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of clothes with the hope that she would wear

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<v Speaker 1>them on one of them on Christmas Day, and they

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:11.160
<v Speaker 1>were literally like I don't know where he got these

0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 1>things from. Now he just gets me like hoodies and

0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:16.799
<v Speaker 1>they was like, I feel like a tomboy. It was

0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 1>like this polka dot dress, like these really girly things,

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<v Speaker 1>were like, do you know her?

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<v Speaker 2>This is one, oh dear. He tried, He tried, gets

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<v Speaker 2>like pretty much all the clothes that you see he

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:34.719
<v Speaker 2>dresses me. So he's pretty switched on to fashion, not

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 2>in the sort of just in the way that he

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 2>knows what looks cool. I don't know, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just got that sort of yeah, he's he's really

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<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't pick it, but like because he's like he's

0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:49.880
<v Speaker 3>a building designer and he's really kind of artsy and crafty,

0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 3>so he's he's all over the whole fashion stuff.

0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:56.360
<v Speaker 2>He's got the best fashion. He's so much more fashionable

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:56.759
<v Speaker 2>than I am.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just making people want to see more on

0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:02.239
<v Speaker 1>your TikTok. I think you're you're not helping that cause.

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:09.680
<v Speaker 2>He's so cool and like he's just like the coolest

0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:12.080
<v Speaker 2>surfy dude. Like yesterday we're at the beach and he

0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 2>just jumped on his surfboard and went and had a surf,

0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:16.879
<v Speaker 2>and I was just like, you know what this is,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm living my actual dream right now. Like I've

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<v Speaker 2>got my little grommets on the beach digging a hole

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<v Speaker 2>to China, and my husband's out catching a few waves

0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:27.520
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just sitting here cruising like it was just

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's the best at the moment, Like I'm just

0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:34.360
<v Speaker 2>absolutely loving life. It's just amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for listening to another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>a very outspoken Christmas. We will be joined in Outspoken

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<v Speaker 1>Plus tomorrow with Ames. We are testing her to see

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<v Speaker 1>how big of an outspoken fan she really is. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be doing an influencer quiz with her, which

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