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Speaker 1: Yesterday the COVID nineteen vaccine arrived in the territory. As

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Speaker 1: I mentioned, the first batch of one thousand doses of

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Speaker 1: that coronavirus vaccine landed safely at the International airport. Joining

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Speaker 1: me in the studio is the Chief Minister, Michael Gunner.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, good day, how are you going good? Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister, who's going to receive the vaccine first.

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Speaker 2: So in phase one, a priority is those people who

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Speaker 2: are at most at risk. Now, we've obviously had a

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Speaker 2: gold standard quarantine facilities, never had a breach. But as

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Speaker 2: we've seen around the country, the people most at risk

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Speaker 2: of developing COVID nineteen and maybe taking to the community

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Speaker 2: are those who work in quarantine facilities. So essentially the

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Speaker 2: frontline workers are the ones that will be vaccinating first.

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Speaker 2: The COMWORPH government we're doing vaccinations in this first one

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Speaker 2: A tranch as well, and they're focused on the aged

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Speaker 2: and disability sectors who are very vulnerable obviously as we've

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Speaker 2: seen nationally two. But for me, the priority is about

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Speaker 2: making sure that we reduce risk even further at our

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Speaker 2: quarantine facility. So the frontline workers and when can.

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Speaker 1: Those sort of regular territorians I guess you know, I,

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Speaker 1: like myself, expect to receive that vaccine.

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Speaker 2: So I'd say the majority of Territorians will receive their

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Speaker 2: vaccines in the second half of this year. Will be free.

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Speaker 2: It's voluntary, it's effective. We will go through the tranches.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of the logistics here, so we will

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Speaker 2: be updating territories as we get to each tranch. So

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Speaker 2: we'll give you more detail about your stage when we

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Speaker 2: get there.

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Speaker 3: There's just a lot of moving parts here.

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Speaker 2: I want to make sure we get it right and

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Speaker 2: we focus on each tranch as it comes.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move along because scandal has plagued the

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Speaker 1: Gunner government last week an extra maaritial affair allegations of

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Speaker 1: drug use by a staffer who works on the fifth

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Speaker 1: floor of Parliament House MLA, Mark Turner ousted from the

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Speaker 1: Labor caucus. One of your staff has resigned. But questions

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Speaker 1: still very much remain unanswered, Chief Finister, when did you

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Speaker 1: first become aware of these allegations?

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Speaker 2: So for me, senior staff advised me of the rumors

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Speaker 2: around the start of the week of February. A a

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Speaker 2: camerent exactly which day it was, but somewhere around there

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Speaker 2: at that point in time we'd heard of rumors, we

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Speaker 2: strongly denied them, and so I was told as much

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Speaker 2: as FYI as anything at that point time. We seems

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Speaker 2: in hindsight, I will tell you that time that they

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Speaker 2: were rumours now strongly denied.

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Speaker 1: So did your staff know about this eighteen days ago?

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Speaker 1: And the verocity of it eighteen days ago?

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Speaker 3: So came to our attention around Feb two.

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Speaker 2: It took a little time to get hold of the

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Speaker 1: So these allegations are incredibly serious. Why did you treat

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Speaker 1: them only as rumor and internet gossip when it seemed

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Speaker 2: Wearing a couple of things here, I think it's not

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Speaker 2: And I still believe talking about whether someone is isn't

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Speaker 2: be a principle of me. For me, what was extremely

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Speaker 2: There was absolutely a relationship and that relationship was inappropriate.

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Speaker 1: But you've seen those text messages now and obviously you

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Speaker 2: No, no, okatie, I would not. And having seen those

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Speaker 3: Our party room. But yeah, i'd be fair to say, so.

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Speaker 1: When did you see these messages? When did you When

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Speaker 3: So the only yesterday basically was the.

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Speaker 1: First time did your staff first see these messages?

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Speaker 1: So you're telling me that at no point your staff

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Speaker 2: I think there's a couple of important points I want

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Speaker 1: But my understanding is that the content of some of

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Speaker 2: Down to the member Blaine and said these are alleged

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Speaker 1: Didn't you at that point think to yourself, these are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we had the same HR powers place powers

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Speaker 3: I couldn't go look at text messages.

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Speaker 2: I had no ability to go look at primary source

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Speaker 1: It was in that email.

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Speaker 3: It was alleged in quotation marks, it wasn't attached.

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Speaker 2: So why I've now received on Sunday is the actual

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Speaker 1: And upon seeing those, you've deen them so serious that

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Speaker 1: why would they not deem that serious a week ago?

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Speaker 2: Well that there's an important distinction here. A week ago

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Speaker 2: they came in the body of an email in quotation marks,

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Speaker 2: on And let's be clear, Member Blaine comes across for

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Speaker 2: those messages are not true.

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Speaker 3: And so I was in a position of.

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Speaker 2: Trusting my colleague and teammate or trusting someone who sent

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Speaker 1: All right? Now, I believe that really there are two

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Speaker 1: parts to this scandal, the aspect which involves an MLA

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Speaker 1: alleged uice of illicit substances by one of your staff.

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Speaker 1: Now you're incredibly critical of the former Chief Minister Adam

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Speaker 1: Giles when an MLA in his team sent a lude

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Speaker 1: video to a woman who wasn't his wife. How's this different?

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Speaker 3: So there's a couple of things here.

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Speaker 2: First of all, let's be clear, I do genuinely believe

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Speaker 2: that you shouldn't be having affairs that I think we

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Speaker 2: can all we can all agree on that point, and

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Speaker 2: the messages from the member for Blaine have been provided

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Speaker 2: to me anonymously, but I haven't seen those other messages.

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Speaker 2: But what we made clear to that former staff member

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Speaker 1: After the woman at the center of the labor scandal

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Speaker 1: text messages were reportedly exchanged between her and MLA Mark Turner.

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Speaker 1: Now Turner reportedly asked her to make a public statement

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Speaker 1: and say, I'm annoyed my words have been twisted this morning.

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Speaker 1: I'm not in a relationship with anyone. I have and

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Speaker 1: have had friends who are MLAs, and I'm not in

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Speaker 2: Thank you for asking this question, Katie. I can categorically

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Speaker 2: fact that Member Blaine did this has been confirmed by

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Speaker 2: the private citizen. It'd be fair to say I was

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Speaker 2: furious on the Thursday when I learned of this interac action.

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Speaker 2: I think it was highly inappropriate and it went again

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Speaker 2: to the extent and nature of this relationship not being

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Speaker 2: honestly told to me or my team.

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Speaker 1: Who do you think then he had to get the

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Speaker 3: By I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, to be honest, Katie, but it wasn't

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Speaker 2: with us, and I think it was a bloody dumb

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Speaker 1: He's reportedly told the woman that he would get advice,

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Speaker 1: and the advice was not to say anything if he

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Speaker 2: I honestly don't know, Katie. We were obviously providing him

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Speaker 2: but our support would not go to this.

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Speaker 3: This was dumb.

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Speaker 2: Let me build into that, Katie, because this is a

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Speaker 2: I think it's really important to trust your teammates, and

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Speaker 2: We went receiving like all the way through this, and

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Speaker 2: Now have seen the messages as I did on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: He's obviously misled parliament. Does he deserve to stay in Parliament?

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Speaker 2: Well, because he changed his statement, I've able checked that, Katie.

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Speaker 3: I believe that he got elected to represent the people.

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Speaker 2: This decision many ways, not me, And what he needs

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Speaker 1: So should he stay in Parliament? He's my question.

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Speaker 3: So for me, he got elected to do a job.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move to the second part of this scandal,

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Speaker 1: and that's allegations of cocaine news by one of your staff.

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Speaker 2: I want to be really clear. I have absolutely no

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Speaker 1: Why someone stood down.

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Speaker 2: Though they were not honest with us at all about

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Speaker 1: So it's over a personal relationship.

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Speaker 2: Over a personal over the failure to adequately and honestly

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Speaker 1: Are you aware if the MLA in question was in

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Speaker 2: No, my understanding for the messages I've seen now, the

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Speaker 3: About that at all.

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Speaker 2: I am aware that there's a lot of roomors out

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Speaker 1: With respect, Chief Minister, what you referred to earlier last

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Speaker 3: Yes. So there's a couple of things I do here regularly.

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Speaker 2: So today I'll be having a hole of office, hall

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Speaker 2: I've done that regularly, but I think it's timely to

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Speaker 1: Do you had to meet with any staff from your

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Speaker 3: No, because we've got no evidence to support that.

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Speaker 2: So both my current chief of staff and my former

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Speaker 1: If at any point it is found that drugs have

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Speaker 3: It's utterly unacceptable and indefensible.

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Speaker 1: Have you have police asked you for information or assistance

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not ware of any police investigation and police

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Speaker 3: Well, there's probably a couple of things here.

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Speaker 2: I don't have any extraordinary workplace powers beyond anyone else.

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Speaker 2: I can only do what any other boss or employee

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Speaker 1: Do you support drug testing in Parliament House?

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Speaker 2: I have a general view against drug testing full stop

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Speaker 2: I've been speaking with the President. We're going to have

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Speaker 2: I know this is a tricky thing for them, but

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Speaker 3: But they absolutely seriously need to consider it.

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Speaker 1: Should he be asked it.

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Speaker 3: Well, in my opinion, he hasn't met our standards.

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Speaker 2: I just know it's easier for us to remove them

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Speaker 3: And we've seen that. It's not a new debate.

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Speaker 2: We've seen that Victoria there was a very public person

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Speaker 3: This is something that's difficult for them to do.

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Speaker 2: If I'd no one more, we will have handled it

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Speaker 1: Have you demonstrated the standards that you set out in

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Speaker 1: Should you have acted earlier?

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Speaker 2: We acted as soon as we had that evidence. So

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Speaker 2: we did the best we could with information we had.

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Speaker 2: I don't regret not acting on gossip. I want to

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Speaker 2: be our back things.

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Speaker 1: Up, Chief Minister. Do you think you can survive this

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Speaker 1: and remain the Chief Minister?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: All right, we better leave it there. We appreciate you

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Speaker 1: answering all those questions this morning. Thank you very much

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Speaker 1: for your time.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's our Chief Minister, Michael Gunner. There the phones are

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Speaker 1: going berserk. We have got so many messages flowing through.

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Speaker 1: Zero four one eight nine, five seven, three six nine

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Speaker 1: is the number if you'd like to send us a

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Speaker 1: message