1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, It's getting super close to the end of 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: the year now. It is the sixth of December, one 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: of the last Mondays of the working year. Happy last 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: night of Huneker, the festival of Lights, the festival that 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: keeps giving. Zara, I, hope you had a wonderful weekend. 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: We're really starting the heat up and it is well 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: and truly into the election cycle. What happened yesterday? 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, there is nothing like a Sunday rally to get 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: you up and about. So yesterday Opposition leader Anthony Alberizi 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: announced a skills and training plan worth one point two 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: billion dollars that he believes will cover the cost of 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: four hundred and sixty five thousand TAFE places to be 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: implemented if Labor wins the next election. TAFE would receive 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: funding for free courses in industries that have been impacted 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: by the pandemic, like tourism and hospitality, and the package 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: also includes nearly four hundred and eighty million dollars to 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: fund an extra twenty thousand university places. 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: The other big story from yesterday was the Therapeutic Goods 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: Administration Provisional approving the FIZO COVID nineteen vaccine for five 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: to eleven year olds. The rollouts expected to begin from 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: the tenth of January next year, but it still needs 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: to receive approval from the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Mmunization. 23 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: We know them as a TARGI. 24 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: At least thirteen people have died in Indonesia after the 25 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 2: Semaru volcano erupted, injuring dozens of others. Several areas within 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: the region have reported darkness due to fog from volcanic ash. 27 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: The volcano is almost three thousand, six hundred meters high 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: and is the tallest mountain on Java Island. 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: And to balance out that story with a good news 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: story about another volcano. Almost fifty days after volcano in 31 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: the Canary Islands erupted, thousands of honey bees have managed 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: to survive despite their hives being covered in volcanic ash. 33 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: The bees are a really important part of the local 34 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: ecosystem and economically vital for honey sellers throughout the region. 35 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: That is some very sweet news. 36 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: Before we go into the details of the incident, heads 37 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: up that this is quite distressing content. 38 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Zara a story that we've been tracking almost for a 39 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: week now that we first reported last Wednesday, a fifteen 40 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: year old is accused of killing four students and injuring 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: seven others at a Michigan high school. What's been interesting 42 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: over the weekend is the charging of the two parents 43 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: of the fifteen year old. They've pleaded not guilty after 44 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: being charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, and it's 45 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: something that we should talk about. 46 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: So on Wednesday, Australian time, Ethan Crumbly opened fire at 47 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: his high school in Michigan. He killed four students and 48 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 2: injured many others. Authorities were alerted at twelve fifty five 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: pm local time of an active shooter. The school was 50 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: placed into lockdown, with children remaining in classrooms as the 51 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: scene was investigated by authorities. At the time, the Michigan 52 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: Governess said, we have a responsibility to do everything we 53 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: can to protect each other from gun violence. No one 54 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: should be afraid to go to school, work, house of worship, 55 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: or even their own home. So, Sam, when this news 56 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: first broke, sadly, it was something that was very familiar. 57 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 2: What's not familiar is the prosecution of Ethan Crumbley's parents. 58 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: Talk me through that. 59 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: So this is a development in the story. We only 60 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: found out about on Saturday morning, our time, when Michigan 61 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: prosecuted Karen McDonald stood up at a press conference and 62 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: spoke about the role of the parents. She then went 63 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: on to say that the parents are wanted for an 64 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: arrest but are actually missing. So James and Jennifer Crumbly 65 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: have been charged with involuntary manslaughter, which under Michigan law 66 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: essentially means that they contributed towards the murder of somebody, 67 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: even though they themselves didn't pull the trigger. The charge 68 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: can attract a sentence of up to fifteen years in prison. 69 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: And on Sunday our time, yesterday, our time, the pair 70 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: were caught after tips to have submitted saying that their 71 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: car was spotted in Detroit. But let's go back a 72 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: little bit. Naturally understands the role of the parents in 73 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: this event, because you're right, Sarah, this is a very 74 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: different set of circumstances to other school shootings we unfortunately 75 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: have become very used to in America. But what's different 76 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: here is things like, you know the fact that the dad, 77 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: James Crumbly, bought the semi automatic handgun recovered in the 78 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: attack for his son four days before the shooting, and 79 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: We learned from the prosecutor during the press conference that 80 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: Ethan was with his father when he bought the weapon, 81 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: and that she cited social media posts to indicate the 82 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: gun was a Christmas gift. We also know that Ethan 83 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: was reported twice by teachers two school administrators, once for 84 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: catching him searching for ammunition on his phone during class, 85 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: and the second time for drawing out a school shooting. 86 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: When contacted by school administrators. Jennifer the mother texted her 87 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 2: son on that day saying, Lol, I'm not mad at you. 88 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: You have to learn not to get caught. 89 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: The drawings that Ethan was caught with were particularly disturbing. 90 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: What is more disturbing is the fact that he was 91 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: caught with them. On the day of the shooting. The 92 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: parents were called into the high school, I had a 93 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: meeting with the school administrators and ultimately decided not to 94 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: take their kid home from school, instead sending him back 95 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: to class. Shortly after he was sent back to class, 96 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: the shooting began. There is then a tragic text message 97 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: twenty five minutes after the shooting began from Jennifer the 98 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: mother to her son saying, Ethan, don't do it. Of course, 99 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: then it was too late. At one point thirty seven pm, 100 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 1: about half an hour after the shooting began, James the father, 101 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: called nine to one one to report the missing gun 102 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: from their house. Here is the prosecutor, Karen McDonald, speaking 103 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: directly about the parents' behavior. 104 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: You have a right to possess a gun, but with 105 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: it comes responsibility. Allowing it in the hands of somebody 106 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: that shows signs that they may hurt somebody is not okay, 107 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: and those people should be held accountable. 108 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: So, as we said at the top of this, the 109 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: role of the parents does seem unprecedented, and certainly the 110 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: bringing forward of charges against them is unusual. Why haven't 111 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: we seen this happen many times before in America? I mean, 112 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 2: we see tragic shootings almost weekly. 113 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: So I think it's a combination of factors. Firstly, you 114 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: have to remember that in America, state by state laws vary, 115 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: so the involuntary manslaughter the laws in Michigan allow for 116 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: these charges to be brought. But secondly, there are different 117 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: internal reporting structures in schools that again differ state by state. 118 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: For example, in California, if there was such a situation 119 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: like the drawing, or like Ethan being caught looking up 120 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: ammunition on his phone. The parents don't have an option 121 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: as to whether their child gets seen by counselors asap. 122 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: They are automatically mandated to see a counselor. There's obviously 123 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: a lot of sensitivities in this type of space around 124 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: the American ideals of freedoms and the right to privacy 125 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: and all of those kind of things, where really, unless 126 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: the police are called in, and keep in mind, you 127 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: need a certain burden of proof to actually call in 128 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: the police, there's very little that teachers can do in 129 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: terms of searching one's bag or compelling the parents to 130 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: take that action. This case and the subsequent arrest of 131 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: the parents has obviously called into question what Michigan specifically 132 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: do in terms of this mandatory reporting, and I was 133 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: really interested to read a lot of accounts of other 134 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: teachers across the United States talking about how the system 135 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: itself and the administrative system is really critical to understand 136 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: when dissecting these events. The fact that the parents could 137 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: send their kid back to class despite the compelling evidence 138 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: was within their right, but obviously now is under the 139 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: microscope of a court in looking at their role in 140 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: contributing to the four deaths. 141 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: In terms of next steps with what happens with the parents, 142 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: a Michigan judge has set a combined bail number of 143 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: one point four million dollars. It's a lot of money, 144 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: so we will see what happens in this case. No 145 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: doubt it will have repercussions across the country, a country 146 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: that does battle with gun violence more frequently than it should. 147 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: That's all we've got time for on today's edition of 148 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: The Daily OS will be back in your ears tomorrow morning. 149 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: Until then, have a fantastic start to the week, and 150 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: we'll speak to you tomorrow