WEBVTT - Froomie's Message For Anyone Going Through It 💗

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex

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<v Speaker 1>and Frooms catch up podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Flex and Frooms on Cata. We got a

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<v Speaker 2>fantastic DM. What was actually directly to my Instagram, not

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<v Speaker 2>the Flex and Frooms page.

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<v Speaker 1>Really do either. Mickey's in the Flex and Rooms insta.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I dip in and out of the dms,

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<v Speaker 2>So depending where you want to go, will we will

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<v Speaker 2>see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I got this DM.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't say their name, but they wrote, Hi, Frooms

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<v Speaker 2>and flex pleasant, smiley face. I'm wondering how you guys

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<v Speaker 2>maintain a lust for life. I've been going through a

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<v Speaker 2>depression and feeling unable to snap out of it and

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<v Speaker 2>really feel brain dead, fatigued, et cetera. Can you guys

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<v Speaker 2>talk about any mental health experiences you've had and how

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<v Speaker 2>you got through them. Thank you so much if you

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<v Speaker 2>choose to read this message. You guys are so wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>and funny and a huge pleasure to listen to.

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<v Speaker 1>Heartheart.

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<v Speaker 2>When I got this message, obviously I sent it directly

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<v Speaker 2>to FLEXI and I wrote cute. She obviously got the

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<v Speaker 2>memo about being polite because there was quite a few

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. Yeah, it was a little bit of a compliment.

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<v Speaker 2>There was some smiling. It's really great, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering. I love that kind of language rather than

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<v Speaker 2>tell us how to tell us you're not depressed, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And wanting to eat for me, The number.

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<v Speaker 2>One tip that I'll have, just that's the surface level one,

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<v Speaker 2>is that you always need something to look forward to.

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<v Speaker 2>This is quite, yes, I guess antithetical to what depression

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<v Speaker 2>feels like, but I feel like for some people when

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<v Speaker 2>they're depressed, they don't look forward to anything, even if

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<v Speaker 2>it's cool, things like you're numb, you're not feeling anything. However,

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<v Speaker 2>for some types of depression, I think they can be

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat rectified by having something to look forward to.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the school holidays, I used to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Really down, really sad, like low mood, melancholy vibes, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was because I didn't have structure. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>school to look forward to, I didn't have any like

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<v Speaker 2>And I get it now because I'm freelance, like I

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<v Speaker 2>can go a week without putting work off or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because you just work on your own hours and then

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<v Speaker 2>you think overthink things and you feel depressed. So for

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<v Speaker 2>me it would be try to book in things that

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<v Speaker 2>you are looking forward to, and then hope that in

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<v Speaker 2>the interim your excitement gathers, because yes, sometimes you have

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<v Speaker 2>to put yourself out there to create plans when you

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<v Speaker 2>can't be bothered. But it's like the whole get out

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<v Speaker 2>of the house, go for a walk, like that is

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<v Speaker 2>actually the hardest step. So if you think about that

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<v Speaker 2>as the hardest step, maybe that will help your brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe the most obvious for me, like illustration of a

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<v Speaker 2>depression or guess that was like obvious to me and

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<v Speaker 2>other people is when I had an eating disorder. So

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<v Speaker 2>when I had an eating disorder and I was trigger

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<v Speaker 2>wanting anorexic, I didn't allow myself to feel anything. If

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<v Speaker 2>I felt sad, I would never attribute that to the

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<v Speaker 2>eating disorder.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was something else.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that I'm out of it, it was a few

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<v Speaker 2>years ago I realized that it was a self fulfilling prophecy.

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<v Speaker 2>So me being hungry all the time, me denying myself things,

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<v Speaker 2>I was denying my feelings. I was denying that I

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<v Speaker 2>was a human being. I kind of treated myself like

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<v Speaker 2>I was a machine. And that meant that it was

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<v Speaker 2>very hard to enjoy things that are enjoyable. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>doing quite a bit of research about it. So for example,

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<v Speaker 2>this won't apply to everyone, of course, but for some

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<v Speaker 2>people who say, have anorexia, your dopemine, serotonin, and cortisol

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<v Speaker 2>levels can be out of whack. It's inconclusive whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not this is like people are more predisposed to developing

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<v Speaker 2>anerexcir because they already have an imbalance, or if they're

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<v Speaker 2>not eating encourages it. But essentially like and this is

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<v Speaker 2>how I feel now, I get dope maine from eating McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 2>I get dope mean from having a delicious meal with

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<v Speaker 2>friends when I was the opposite of that. I will

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<v Speaker 2>get dope mean from not eating, so me going hours

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<v Speaker 2>that eating it actually makes.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel bad eating. It's not even because you feel

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<v Speaker 1>bad because like this is gonna make me fat. You

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<v Speaker 1>feel bad because you don't get rewhite.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you get fully rewired to be the inverse like

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<v Speaker 2>the colors go inverse, which I think is a good

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<v Speaker 2>thing to learn. If you have anyone in your life

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<v Speaker 2>who's struggling with an eating disorder and you're like, how

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<v Speaker 2>are they not eating? Like eat, eat eat, you tell

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<v Speaker 2>them to eat a sandwich like that's actually going against

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<v Speaker 2>their chemical balance. So my first little tip is to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out what your goal is. So when I was

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<v Speaker 2>at my lowest, I got to the point where I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Will trade anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I will trade my body that I felt I had perfected.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll trade my work. I'll trade any goal that I

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<v Speaker 2>had with work. I've always been quite sure of what

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted, and I had real big dreams and goals

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<v Speaker 2>and I felt like I was definitely on track to

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<v Speaker 2>hit them. I thought, I'll give that away. I give

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<v Speaker 2>my body, I'll give my work, I'll give everything away

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<v Speaker 2>just to feel enjoyment, just to be able to enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>these things that I enjoyed when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>And the first little bits of that were really hard,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would just keep that in the back of

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<v Speaker 2>my head. I want to feel enjoyment. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>feel enjoyment. And then it did come at the cost

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<v Speaker 2>of that body. It came at the cost of certain

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<v Speaker 2>work opportunities. I didn't feel as sharp as I was

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<v Speaker 2>before because I was very sharp when I was anorexic,

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<v Speaker 2>Like your brain can become very hyper focused on things,

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<v Speaker 2>which is helpful with work, I think. But I got

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<v Speaker 2>what I wished for I enjoy things, and so the

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<v Speaker 2>hardest step was, like I need to do this hardest thing,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that this is the only way forward because I

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<v Speaker 2>can't go down this road.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe if you're at.

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<v Speaker 2>The point with your depression where you kind of feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you're at the end bit of your options, sit

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<v Speaker 2>down with yourself and think, what do I actually what

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<v Speaker 2>do I want if I could feel feelings again, what

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<v Speaker 2>is the feeling that I want to feel?

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<v Speaker 1>And start from there. That's what I would do.

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<v Speaker 2>Start in a higher way, rather than beating yourself up

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<v Speaker 2>about like knocketting out of bed or not doing this

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<v Speaker 2>or that. Start with a desire that is both like ephemeral,

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<v Speaker 2>something like enjoyment is quite ephemeral. It's not based on

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<v Speaker 2>any achievement, and then explore it. I wish you, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing but the best I wrote at the end of this,

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<v Speaker 2>I love you and you can do it. Let's try together,

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<v Speaker 2>love heart, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you like, why did we not end there?

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<v Speaker 1>That's perfect? Thanks Queen. You've been listening to The Flex

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<v Speaker 1>and Froom's daily podcast.

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