WEBVTT - Nathalie Morris & Carlos Sanson Jr - BUMP - Actors 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:03.640 TV Reload the podcast. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:05.760 Last week that might welcome back guys to TV Reload. 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:08.160 As you may know, my name is Benjamin Norris and 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:11.039 this is your podcast to get all the inside goss 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:13.720 on the popular TV shows that you may be watching 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:16.800 from around the world. 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I really do love hearing your feedback, 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.520 so if you've are still listening after all these years, 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.040 please leave a review or a comment on your chosen 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.919 podcast platform. On today's podcast, I have Natalie Morris and 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:55.160 Carlos Sanson Junior from the hit series Bump, which has 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:59.120 dropped series four on Stan Australia today. I absolutely love 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:01.920 revisiting these characters each year, and we have seen a 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.360 new season drop on the same day, Boxing Day for 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:06.959 quite a few years now. I feel like the day 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.800 after Christmas we all need to binge a TV series 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.240 and just forget about the world and take some time 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.200 to have some escapism. Some people might look forward to 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:18.199 the Boxing Day sales, I personally look forward to taking 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.399 a deep dive into the world of Bump, which is 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:23.800 set in Glebe, Sydney. The Australian drama is made by 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:27.160 TV legends Dan Edwards and his father John Edwards, along 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:30.320 with Claudia Carvin and Kelsey Monroe. I had the pleasure 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:32.640 of chatting with Dan and Claudia earlier this year, and 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.600 if you missed those episodes of TV Reload, make sure 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:39.240 you jump back and hear their incredible stories. In Bump 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.640 season four, we've jumped forward again, this time by two years. 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.200 Ollie played by my guest today Natalie Morris, and Santi 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.840 played by my other guest, Carlos Sanson Junior are back together, 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:54.120 having finally stabilized their small family unit with their challenging 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:57.720 seven year old daughter, Jacinta. Ollie is now the breadwinner 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:01.080 and Santy has found himself the unhappy stay at home dad, 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.400 and their endless interventions from their big mess of a 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.560 family are going to make them or break them for 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:10.960 series four. It is delicious writing, superbly acted, and like 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.240 I said, it's the perfect escapism for this time of 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.880 the year. We will talk about the casting of both 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.480 their roles. Natalie will talk about the way in which 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.600 she created the character of Claudia Carvin's daughter and which 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.360 of her iconic roles she watched to get some inspiration. 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.840 Carlos will share his journey with his character, and while 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.760 it's widely known that Natalie had an obvious mentor on 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.480 the show, he will also reveal who has been a 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:36.640 true inspiration for him too. We will dive into their 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.760 real relationship and find out what separates their on screen 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:43.160 romance with where they're both at now living together and 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:46.840 if that has created any kind of confusion. Plus, we 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.600 will get plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes of Bump, which, 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:54.359 as I mentioned, starts on Stan Australia today. Anyway, let's 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:56.360 bring these two into the podcast and guys, thank you 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.880 so much for listening to this podcast. It really does 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:00.799 mean a lot to me, and what a joy it 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.920 is to finish the series for twenty twenty three with 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.360 Bump for the second year in a row. I hope 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:07.880 you enjoy this episode. 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:09.440 Hi, I'm so sorry. 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.760 I had to own Carlos's laptop and my I had 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:14.440 to get the Zoom link and then download Zoom and 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:15.119 da da dah. 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:18.080 Did you guys do the like it was like a 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:21.200 stand installation of the restaurant, right, Yeah? 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:21.760 Pretty much? 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.640 I mean yeah, we kind of took over the jar 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.679 Contina and Glebe and had all the Bump posters up 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:31.120 and we were there was so manyadas. 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.320 People just came in and got free food. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.000 Was there a lot of super fans that come in 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.520 and interacted with you? 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:38.640 It was pretty surprising. 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.200 Yeah. There was a whole line of fans out the 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.560 front of the store at eleven am with a lot of. 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:48.360 Inner Westies, a lot of Glebe vocals, fans who were 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.360 like new film on my Street and. 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.840 I I love that stuff. I mean, Claudia talks about 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.000 that from when she did Seek the Wife of Us. 0:03:56.200 --> 0:04:00.880 You know, since Kilda really owned that TV series, Saint 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.840 Kilda was where it was set, you would obviously have 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:05.000 that with gleebe. 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.200 Yeah, yeah, I think it feels the same. 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:09.920 And there were people who were like, I just I 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:11.880 live up the roast came down, I saw what was 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:12.680 happening on Instagram. 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:14.720 I just like walked out the door and just came 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:16.480 down to say hi. It was nice. 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:20.159 Yeah, I'm just so happy that young people of your age. 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:21.840 And I don't mean to sound that in a condescening 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:23.560 way at all. I am forty three, so I'm a 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.040 little bit old, But I'm just so happy that there's 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:30.200 really good content for young people with young people playing them. 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:31.120 That's so nice. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:32.520 I feel like that was part of why we did 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.560 the time jump, because I think we pulled off we 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:39.039 pulled off teenage high school when we first started doing Bump, 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.599 but then as we kind of got older, I think 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.080 the whole consensus with the whole career of team was like, 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.520 let's not try and keep young and like playing younger 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.520 than they actually are, because you know, as we got 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:51.080 as the sort of years went on, by the time 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:52.920 we got to season three, it was like, it doesn't 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.440 really feel right to be playing high school anymore, and 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.200 the story can expand so much more if we do 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.480 this time jump, and I remember we were really excited 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.320 about By the time we got to do the five 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.359 years in the future, it was like, oh wow, It's. 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.400 Like what is the age difference? Though? So when you 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.520 first got those roles, how old were you playing? Like, 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:12.000 were you two or three years out? 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.640 All? No, I was twenty three and I was playing sixteen, 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:17.880 so I was quite a bit older. 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.320 I look back and I watched stuff from season one 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:21.240 and season two. 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.760 What's crazy is season two and season. 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:27.000 Three were filmed two months apart, and I look at 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:30.200 stuff from season two and I'm like, we look like children, 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.200 and then I look at three and I'm like, we 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:34.440 look like adults. 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:35.920 And it was just two months apart. 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.200 Yeah, it's crazy. What did you do in between that? 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:39.560 I mean they were filmed together. 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:41.440 I did go to the gym a lot. I was like, 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:43.920 I want there to be some sort of physical difference. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:44.279 Yeah. 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.440 I remember being quite set on that, like this is 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.400 my Christian Vale moment to do a cool physical transformation 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.520 over the summer. But yeah, we definitely played around with 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.520 like the looks and like I shaved my head and 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.040 did you dye your hair or get extensions? 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.280 I think they died a blonder. 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.560 Yeah, and that was costuming makes a big difference as well. 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.240 You know, like we're not in those jubilee when you're 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.200 not in the school uniform, the school uniform does. 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:10.800 So much, you know. 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:12.520 Yeah, actually put on the school. 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:14.160 Uniform, I was like, I didn't think I was going 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.240 to ever do this again. And you immediately feel like 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.840 a little kid again. You know, You're like, where do 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:20.200 I go? 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:22.400 Well, I'm happy that you guys are playing your own age. 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:24.839 I think that that works because I think we're getting 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.320 more of that. Like even with Heartbreak High that's come back, 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.480 we've got more age appropriate people, major age appropriate actors 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.200 playing them. I mean back in the day like Luke 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.240 Perry on nine oh two or oh, I think he 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.680 was like twenty years older than what he was playing, 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.000 and it was just, yeah, we need to move away 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.280 from that. I think audiences are getting smarter and they 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:44.240 really enjoy authenticity. 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.240 Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I think that's something. I think it 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.600 was smart that Bump originally cast a little bit older, 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:54.840 just because I feel like we could remember what it 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.080 was like to be sixteen with a sense of humor, 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:00.000 Whereas I think if we were actually sixteen, we wouldn't 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.880 have been able to laugh at ourselves as much and 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:04.880 kind of take the piss a little bit out of 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:06.080 the teenage experience. 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.120 Yeah, look back at our own high school experiences with 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:10.120 a bit of perspective. 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:14.120 Yeah, and really play it up. And yeah, especially for Olie, 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:14.800 I think. 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.880 You know, the back of the class in trouble all 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:22.520 the time. But also, we weren't so old that it 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.840 was weird. It looked weird like a guy with a beard. 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:26.160 I didn't have the wrinkles. 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:28.800 And yeah, now it's a different story. 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.400 Those sun marks they're coming through, but that's. 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.360 When they're like, you could get some botox. No, I'm 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.800 only kidding. I was so excited to organize this chat 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:38.200 with the two of you. It was kind of like 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.320 my pipe dream. I mean, this is honest to God, 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:45.920 like bump fantasy. Actually fantasy is probably misleading. That makes 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.560 it sound, that makes it sound really weird. But I 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:50.440 just was so excited to have the two of you 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:54.239 together because this show has been in our lives now 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.720 every year we get to look forward to coming back 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.640 and there's a bit of ownership over following the story 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:01.320 that the true of you have been telling. 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:02.520 I feel like I just. 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:06.000 Found that this year, I feel like I've noticed that 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.800 people are like, oh, we're looking forward to like they 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.320 kind of have cottoned on to, like, oh, in boxing day, 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.040 of course it's going to come out. And it just 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:17.200 feels like there's more of a following now than after 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.760 two seasons. You know, people come to expect it as 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.640 part of their holiday, Christmas holiday experience. 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:23.559 Really nice. 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.119 It's been a bit weird the way it's all worked 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.480 out is like at the end of season one, we 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.160 didn't know if we were going to do another one, 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:32.880 and we knew that we were going to do three 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.360 after two, but we didn't know if the three was 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.320 going to be the end. So at the end of 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.839 kind of most seasons it's been like this, this might 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.640 be it, Like all right, god bye, this might this 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.400 might be the end of bump, and we don't know 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:46.520 until it comes out, and then of course it does, 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:50.080 so well, another one gets renewed. So it's been this like, 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.880 you know, you you hope that it goes again, but 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.200 there's no, it's not like it in season one. We 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.560 signed a four season deal and we knew that every 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:00.440 year for us it was going to be this this 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.400 thing that we did, Yeah, but yeah, I agree. This 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:08.560 season it's feeling, yeah, like people are getting used to 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.640 it now. It's like, oh, it's that time of year again, 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:11.520 it's Boxing Day. 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:12.040 It's fine. 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.560 People are really familiar with the characters now. 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.240 Yeah, it's good writing, though, do you know what I mean? 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.959 I think that there's some honest to god fantastic collaborating 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.640 happening behind the scenes to make a show like this pop, 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.280 Because I mean, I saw Claudia last night. I actually 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.720 sat next to her at the preview of Expats, and 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:33.760 I was talking to her about my nervousness about season four. 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.040 I have a fear of season four and TV shows 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.800 that I love because so often it's season four, they're 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.280 fall over. I didn't say to Claudia last night, but 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.840 Secret Life of Us season four was terrible. She wasn't 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:45.600 in it at that stage. 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:51.600 She wasn't in it. I feel like, yeah, it wasn't. 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.480 Like I don't know, I was scared. And then you 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.080 know what, it was so nice because I've watched the 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.079 first I've watched a big chunk of this series and 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.360 of season four, which is coming out of Boxing Day, 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.640 and it just levels up again. There's more conversation and 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:06.120 it's deeper. The characters are richer, even with it starting 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:09.160 with the bushfires and talking about the climate, do you 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.600 know what I mean? Like, it's just like the sky's 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.280 the limit now with what you can do with these characters. 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.760 And we have an expectation for it to level up 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.080 every year, and I'm happy to say that this next 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:20.559 series levels up again. 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.679 No, the writers are bumps, so smart, and they're so 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.559 conscious of not turning it into a soapy TV show. 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.120 They're really trying to stay ahead of the audience, just 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.880 keep pushing like, Okay, what's relevant now? What are we 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:37.280 talking about now? What's in the zeitgeist at the moment. 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.800 And it does feel like these characters can just be 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:43.280 a vessel for literally whatever we want to say, and 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.320 the writers have a lot to say, so it's it's 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:47.080 good in that way. 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.120 I want to start at the beginning because I'm just 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.200 so excited to have the two of you there, But like, 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.480 how did you get cast? Like for starters, both of 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.320 you are phenomenal in these roles. There's a lot of 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.240 ownership over it. But also the chemistry between the two 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.640 of you is electrick like, it's it's palpable. How did 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:06.120 you guys come across the material and how did you 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:06.800 get pasted? 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:11.640 Well, I auditioned for Kirsty McGregor, the casting director for 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.280 a different project, So I didn't get that. 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.200 Can we say what that was? Is that bad to Eden? 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:19.960 Eden, which was being made around the same time as 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.400 the Stand project, another Stamp project, And Yeah, I just 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.199 wasn't right for that character. I think that character was 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:29.959 played by her, not Sophie Wilde the other the blog. 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:36.440 Yeah, I actually don't know, just bailed us on the test. 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.920 And but because Kirsty had seen my audition for Eden, 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:45.240 she thought to herself, I guess like, oh, this girl 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:48.679 would be really good as Cordia Carbon's daughter. And at 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.959 that time she, I guess, just started to get word 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:55.400 of Bump and so by the time it got to me, 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:58.680 she already was like quite it wasn't a general call 0:11:58.720 --> 0:11:59.160 out to me. 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:01.960 She was quite interested in me already for the role. 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.200 So she sent me. I kind of jumped straight to 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:05.400 the recall stage in a way. 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.719 She sent me like five or six scenes off of that, 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:09.960 and I knew that they were kind of interested in 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.080 me and excited, So I was like, Okay, I've really 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:13.920 got to do a good audition for this, and then 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.720 I sent it in a tape and I got the job. 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.280 I didn't even recall or I know it was chemistry. 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:20.720 We didn't chemistry read. 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:25.880 She living in What is wild to me that they 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.000 didn't chemistry read the two of you, because. 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:32.200 The chemistry read Carlos with heaps of different vinces. But 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.760 we didn't jump on a call until we were already 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.480 cast weeks later. 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.040 Do you know what? But did you Maybe they cast you? 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:43.080 Because I just assumed, Natalie, that when you found out 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.520 that you got this role, or when you started auditioning 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.960 and you knew you were playing Claudia's daughter, that you 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:50.839 must have gone and watched a lot of her stuff 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.800 or followed her around, because the nuances that you were 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:57.160 picking up and playing and demonstrating, it didn't feel like 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.640 you're impersonating Claudia carb and it felt like you were 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.679 her daughter. He felt like you. She genuinely had that 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:07.000 mother daughter similarities. Did you go and watch a lot 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.120 of her old work or were you allowed to follow 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:09.600 her around? 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.760 I did, Yeah, I stalked Laudia. I did. 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:14.360 I was living because I was living in Auckland at 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.160 the time, and so I had to do the hotel 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.599 quarantine to come over for a bump, and during the 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.600 hotel quarantine, I watched all of Love My Way, which 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:23.280 I loved. 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:24.480 I'm obsessed with Love My. 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.160 Way, and so I kind of got an idea of 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.480 her through that. But I think I think it just 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:30.439 happened over time. 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:34.880 I remember, yeah, I remember you started to adopt her laugh. Yeah, yeah, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.400 you guys up and I was like, you're laughing like 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:38.079 Claude laughs. 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:38.640 Yeah. 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.840 I think I just started to become like her across 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:42.360 the choot. 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.400 Yeah, just by I don't know. 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:46.920 I think it was just being around her. It was 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.600 probably a bit of awe as well, so we're just like, 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:50.400 oh my gosh. 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.880 Well people talk about it though. I mean I've heard 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:54.520 it from people on the set that the two of 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:56.800 you are very close and that Claudia has that sort 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:00.199 of mentorship with you. Yeah, but there's a really is 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:04.520 this soul sister thing happening. There's something very very I 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.880 don't know organic about it. 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.360 Yeah, I don't know how that happened. I think we 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.080 just we just really hit it off from day one, and. 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:16.280 I remember there were some members of the cast who 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.840 were like, oh, Claudia Carvin, it's so nice to be 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:19.320 on the show. 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.120 Thank you so much. I'm so grateful for being, you know, 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.480 in your presence, and I think I was just like, 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:25.960 you're a bit shit. 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.400 I think someone like Claudia Covin wants though, do you 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.000 know what I mean? Like, I think she doesn't want 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.640 anyone sucking up to her. She doesn't want anyone being like, oh, 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.080 she wants to be challenged, you know. She wants to 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:42.080 see the enthusiasm and the you know, the interest that 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.560 you have in the industry. I think is where she 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.560 responds most. And I think she can clearly see that 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.320 there's something in you that I don't know. 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.520 I personally have a really close relationship with my mum, 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.960 So when someone is cast as my mom, I tend 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:02.680 to kind of just instinctively treat them like they're very 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.200 close to me in a way, like I think the 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.760 way I spoke to her in scenes and how kind of. 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.560 Yeah, how you endow that person. 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:15.040 I endow that person with, oh, okay, yeah, this person 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.440 is my mom, and therefore I don't know they just 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:19.680 it's a bit of imagination and it's a bit of 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.400 I feel like that happens all the time. Like your 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:26.200 relationship with the people that you're acting with become very 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.840 similar to the relationship with the characters awlus. 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.800 Do you feel jealous about this relationship that they have? 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.120 Do you? Do you have a mentorship on the set 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:35.040 of Bump as well? 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:39.560 Yes, he does. Nom and Tim have adopted especially. 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.000 Ryan Johnson's my mentor. 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:48.240 Ryan Anger love that. Yeah, he's my idol. 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.680 It was interesting because my Ricardo, who plays my dad, 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:57.320 had never acted before and so we we and I 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.520 had done some stuff, but it was my first big 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.800 lead role, and we we really I think, leant on 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.440 each other, like as like we're both in this and 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.000 like that's just like let's let's lean on each other 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:10.760 like a father and a son would in a way, 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:12.440 like there was there was a bit of dependence on 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.240 each other that we were just like let's do our 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.080 best and let's make this as real as possible. 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.120 And also I feel like he was a mentor for 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.400 you in terms of like the South American. 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:21.160 Yeah for sure. 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:25.880 Yeah, yes, you didn't speak as good as Spanish. 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.960 Now. Also I didn't know how to dance salsa and yeah, 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.000 it was it was, it was. Yeah, he was he 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.440 was great and I think he but in the same 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.640 way that he was. It felt like he was leaning 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:38.920 on me too in terms of the acting stuff, which 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.120 which felt like it was a two way relationship. It 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.280 wasn't like I was just leaning on him all the time. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:46.320 It was it was a really nice lab. It was 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.240 a nice collab there with me and Ricarda. 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:49.920 Well. I don't want to give anything away, but there's 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:53.400 some scenes in this latest season where you two you 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.120 were there with your father and feels very genuine. And 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:58.560 I remember Claudia saying something about the fact that they 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.520 chose some actors for the very first season to make 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.160 it the first time actors. 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:03.520 You know. 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.919 They didn't go and try and find these recognizable names 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.840 that to be able to create this multicultural universe that worked. 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:15.520 They did audition and find first time actors, you know. 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.520 And I think there's something in that maybe as to 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.520 why the community works with this show. And I think 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:23.760 community is the right word even today. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.560 The launch for season four, we were at Bajakantina and 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:31.240 Glebe and it was most of the South American cast 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:34.720 were there, and most of them are community cast, like 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:38.119 Claudia de Gusti, who plays Pernadita, community cast. 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.800 I mean, obviously Plo done. 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:43.720