1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Already and this is this is the daily This is 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: the daily. Ohs oh, now it makes sense. 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily Os. It's Wednesday, 4 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: the eighth of May. I'm zara, I'm lucy. Australian brothers 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 2: Jake and Callum Robinson and their American friend Jack Carter 6 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 2: Road have been confirmed dead in the Mexican state of 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: Baja California, days after their family first raised the alarm 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: that they were believed missing. It's being confirmed to I 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: Callum and Jake Robinson are dead. Their parents have identified 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: their bodies after traveling from Perth to the Mexican city 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: of Ensinata. 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 3: Officials believe the men were attacked trying to stop their 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: pickup truck being stolen. 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: Police alleged they were murdered, possibly because theves wanted their 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: car tires. In today's deep dive, we'll run through everything 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: we know about the alleged murders and the broader conflict 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: in the region. But first, Sarah, what's making headlines. 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: The Reserve Bank of Australia has left the cash rate 19 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: unchanged at four point three five percent for the fourth 20 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: consecutive time. The RBA board said the decision was driven 21 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: by persistent inflation and a highly uncertain economic outlook. The 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: RBA has regularly raised interest rates over the last two 23 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: years to fight historically high inflation, which in this case 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: we're talking about rising prices. RBA Governor Michelle Bullock said 25 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: the board doesn't think that they'll necessarily have to tighten 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: rates again, but didn't rule out a future rise. 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: A Victorian woman arrested for allegedly poisoning four people with 28 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: mushrooms has pleaded not guilty in court. Aaron Patterson's in 29 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: laws were hospitalized after they fell sick from eating a 30 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: meal allegedly prepared by Patterson at her home in Regional 31 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: Victoria in July last year. Three then died, and the 32 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: forty nine year old was charged with three counts of murder. 33 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: She was also charged with attempted murder over multiple alleged 34 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: attempts on her ex husband's life. Patterson denies all the 35 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: charges against her and will face Victoria's Supreme Court later 36 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: this month ahead of an expected trial later in the year. 37 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: Donald Trump has been threatened with jail time if he 38 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: continues to ignore a suppression order. The gag order was 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: imposed on the former US president to restrict his public 40 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 2: comments during ongoing court proceedings. Trump is facing trial over 41 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: an alleged cover up of hush money payments to adult 42 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: film star Stormy Daniels. A New York judge has warned 43 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: Trump could be made to serve time behind bars if 44 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: he continues to breach the order. 45 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: And today's good news, Critically endangered blue whale populations could 46 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: be bouncing back. The Australian Antarctic Division reported a likely 47 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: stable or potentially increasing population rate had been detected by 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: their radars. Although they're the largest animals on Earth, blue 49 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: whales are actually difficult to spot in the ocean, and 50 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: it's their sounds that scientists have been tracking. Research has 51 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: tracked a increased free quency of whale sounds, which helps 52 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: marine scientists better understand the species. 53 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 3: Hey, I'm Nish and I'm the lead developer at the 54 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: Dalely Odds. I'm responsible for developing all the tech that 55 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: we use, from the website to the newsletter in just 56 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: two seconds. You can help the dally Oods grow just 57 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: by clicking follow on Apple or Spotify, and if you 58 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 3: want to leave us a review, that also helps a 59 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: lot too. Thank you, and now back to the deep dive. 60 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: Last month, Jake and Callum Robinson, brothers from Perth, went 61 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: on a camping and a surfing trip in the Mexican 62 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: state of Baja California. They were with a friend from 63 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: the US called Jack carter Road. All three are now 64 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: confirmed dead and police alleged they were murdered. Lucy, can 65 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: you just start at the beginning of this story. It's 66 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: unfolded fairly quickly. Where does this story begin? 67 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: So let's start with kind of the wear of this story. 68 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: Baja California, as you said, is a Mexican state. It's 69 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: on Mexico West Coast and it's a long strip of 70 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: land that kind of continues on from the US state 71 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: of California. Callum Robinson and Jack Carter Road were based 72 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: in the US city of San Diego, which is just 73 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: a half an hour drive from a really popular US 74 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: Mexico border crossing at Santa Sidro and Tijuana. Baja California 75 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: is a really well known international surfing destination. It was 76 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: really not out of the ordinary for these guys to 77 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: have traveled there for this kind of trip. 78 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: And so they were going on this surfing trip. Can 79 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: you talk a bit about what we know about the 80 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: three men. 81 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so. Callum Robinson, as I said, was based 82 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: in San Diego. He's from Perth. He had gone to 83 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: UNI in the US to play lacrosse and had then 84 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: played actually professionally for a couple of years. And his brother, 85 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: Jake Robinson, was a doctor who was about to start 86 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: a new job at a hospital in Victoria and had 87 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: gone to visit his brother in the before that began. 88 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: And their friend Jack Carter Road who went by Carter 89 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: was based in San Diego as well. He worked for 90 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: an IT company and he was actually going to get 91 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: married in August. 92 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 2: And so when did it first become clear that something 93 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: had happened. 94 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, So the first indication that Jack and Callum's family 95 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: had that something had gone wrong was when the three 96 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: men failed to check into an airbnb. Their family had 97 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: last heard from them on the twenty seventh of April. 98 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: And at first, what we know is that the specific 99 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: part of Baja that they were going to had pretty 100 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: spotty reception and some unsealed roads. So I think the 101 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: early assumptions were not necessarily that foul play was involved. 102 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: But by the beginning of May, when Callum had failed 103 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: to show back up to work in San Diego. There 104 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: was starting to be some really really serious concerns. 105 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: And it was very quickly after that when we had 106 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: first heard that the men women, that we heard about 107 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: some arrests, right. 108 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, So we soon heard that a woman 109 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: had been arrested in Baha, allegedly with one of the 110 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: men's phones. And then very soon after that we also 111 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: heard that two other men had been arrested and that 112 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: a burnt out car and some tents had been abandoned 113 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: and found by police, and police believed that this car 114 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: and these tents were connected to the three men. 115 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: And I think at this point the picture became quite grim. 116 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: But then over the weekend it got even grimmerin I 117 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: think confirmation for the first time was given. 118 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: Yes, so early Saturday morning, our time news broke that 119 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: three bodies had been found in a remote well and 120 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,559 Speaker 1: authorities were pretty confident that this was Jake, Callum and Carter, 121 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: and by Sunday their families had identified them. 122 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the parents of the brothers had flown over 123 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: and presumably that was the time that we first heard 124 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 2: about the bodies before they were formally identified. What do 125 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: authorities think happened to these men. 126 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: So Mexican police are alleging that they were killed by 127 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: thieves who wanted their trucks tires. Police have said there 128 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: were signs of a struggle where the truck and the 129 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: tents that I mentioned were found, and they alleged that 130 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: the men were each shot in the head. And police 131 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: actually said there was a fourth older unidentified body in 132 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: the world that the other bodies were also found in. 133 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: As we've said, just a horrific story. And you know, 134 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: we were getting lots of messages on the daily, odds 135 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: of people that knew the brothers who were trying to 136 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: ask us to spread the message. And again it just 137 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: happened so quickly. I think one of the important angles 138 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: to this story has been the reaction from locals in Mexico. 139 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: What has that been like. 140 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: The speed at which charges were laid and how quickly 141 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: these men's bodies were found in this very remote location 142 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: has raised questions for locals. Some people have been asking 143 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: why so many Mexican people are registered missing with no 144 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: movement on their cases for months or for years. But 145 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: these men were located really quickly. But I also want 146 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 1: to be clear that people in Ensenata, so the town 147 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: around which all of this took place. There's also been 148 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: like a huge outpouring of grief for these men. There's 149 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: been lots of demonstrations, there was a paddle out from 150 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: local surfers. These questions about how they were located are 151 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: being asked at the same time as locals are kind 152 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: of showing their grief. People are asking how could this happen? 153 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: Why wasn't en Sonata safe for these three men who 154 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: just wanted to go swimming, And also why are our 155 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: own missing person's cases going unsolved? Really kind of pointing 156 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: to a broader institutional failure. And there have been some 157 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: protests and some demonstrations in the. 158 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: Area, and the protests have been around that issue. Yes, 159 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: so there are clearly a few layers to this story, 160 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: but at the heart of it just a real tragedy 161 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: of young men who went out to have a nice 162 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: holiday and just an absolutely dreadful ending to that holiday. 163 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: I think that important to just highlight that there are 164 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: a couple of GoFundMe pages that have been set up 165 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: to help the families of the boys and also to 166 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: direct funds towards causes that especially Carter believed in. So 167 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: we'll throw those in the show notes. If you're looking 168 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: to help out in any way, but that's all we 169 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: have time for today. Take care of yourself and we'll 170 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: be back again tomorrow. 171 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: My name is Lily Madden and I'm a proud Dunda 172 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: Bungelung Caalguttin woman from Gadighl Country. The Daily oz acknowledges 173 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the 174 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres 175 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: Straight Island and nations. We pay our respects to the 176 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: first peoples of these countries, both past and present,