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Speaker 1: How many coffees do you have every day or are

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Speaker 1: you more a tea drinker. Is your coffee the first

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Speaker 1: is it one of the things that you look forward

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Speaker 1: to on your first morning break. On today's Midweek, a

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Speaker 1: motivational episode of the Nutrition Couch Podcast, we share a

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Speaker 1: common case study all about our daily tea and coffee

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Speaker 1: habits and how it may be derailing your hunger when

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Speaker 1: it comes to your dietary goals. Hi, I'm Leanne Ward

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Speaker 1: and I'm Cissy Burrow, and every week we bring you

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Speaker 1: the Nutrition Couch Podcast, the biweekly potty that keeps you

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Speaker 1: up to date on everything that you need to know

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Speaker 1: in the world of nutrition. Now as well as all

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Speaker 1: things tea and coffee. We want to share a new

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Speaker 1: for all the bakers out there, we have a delicious

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Speaker 1: recipe that has chocolate but also hidden veggies which we

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Speaker 1: us off today, Susie, I'm going to handle all it

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Speaker 1: over to you, and you've got an awesome case study

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Speaker 1: all about drinking tea and coffee and how sometimes it

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Speaker 1: doesn't quite line up with the goals we have in

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Speaker 1: life for ourselves.

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Speaker 2: I think that being a coffee lover myself and it's

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Speaker 2: certainly the focus of my morning is getting that coffee

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Speaker 3: Actually, I think that's probably.

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Speaker 2: The highlight of most days, especially lately Land And I

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Speaker 2: remember in the good old days, I used to say,

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Speaker 2: horrified that I even said it, because I wouldn't even

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Speaker 3: But I think it really reminded me.

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Speaker 2: Earlier this week I had a client who has an

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Speaker 2: office based job, and I think we've forgotten the impact

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Speaker 3: She's got to be commute, so.

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Speaker 2: She's up at the cracker door and traveling an hour

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Speaker 2: She's on a train early, so she would grab a

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Speaker 2: she would have like her oat latte or whatever the

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Speaker 2: and it certainly includes sugar. So that means if you

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Speaker 3: Then a coffee.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of playing havoc with your natural hung in

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Speaker 2: little amounts will often delay hunger, and so you're not

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Speaker 2: having proper meals, but you've actually consumed quite a lot.

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Speaker 2: And I've got another client who gets up really early

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Speaker 2: disrupts her cycle of fasting for that ten twelve hours.

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Speaker 2: And we know we often have questions about intimate and

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Speaker 2: fasting and if I have a tea or coffee, does

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Speaker 3: So this would be my.

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Speaker 2: Suggestions for managing that, because as I said, I'm certainly

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Speaker 2: not saying you should never have coffee. First of all,

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Speaker 2: I think if it's less than the fast, so if

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Speaker 2: Remember that a milk coffee is half a meal, so

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Speaker 2: you've got to team it with a meal or a

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Speaker 2: options like a piccolo, which is adding a much smaller

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Speaker 2: then if you've had a coffee, say eight thirty nine,

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Speaker 2: to have those drinks, because it certainly will be disrupting

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Speaker 2: do see it quite often, and I've recently had quite

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Speaker 1: And certainly my dad was one of those ones who

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Speaker 1: don't you just knock it off? Fall together? Like you're

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Speaker 1: only having your quarter. He's like, no, I've done so well,

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Speaker 1: was like, fair enough, fair game, You've done very well.

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Speaker 1: It makes a significant difference, Like he's gone from two

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Speaker 1: tea each day, Like it makes a significant difference at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day. But to your point, where

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Speaker 1: and that's something that I do on my own postpartum

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Speaker 1: whether that's herbal or whether that's got a dash of

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Speaker 1: and I don't mind my client's doing it, but like

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Speaker 1: and said, leanne, I'm feeling like some of my old

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Speaker 1: what's going on? And she said, I'm using the tea's like,

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Speaker 1: dampen down my hunger? Am I using this as a habit?

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Speaker 1: Or am I using this because I just genuinely enjoy it?

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Speaker 1: And perhaps I could swap to a herbal tea every

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Speaker 1: a good time of year to be asking ourselves some

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Speaker 1: of these questions where, particularly coming out of winter. I

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Speaker 1: my heart. Susie had like five or six cups of

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Speaker 3: And it's also good from a budget perspective.

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Speaker 2: So it basically contains plant sterols, which is the substances

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Speaker 1: you've got a banana bread like, it's just such an

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Speaker 1: I wish it was a different color, because you're right,

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Speaker 1: some of those extra fussy kids they'll spot a little

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Speaker 1: a tiny little bit more nutrition in there. Beans are sometimes.

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Speaker 1: I know you're not a big bean fan, Susie, but

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Speaker 1: I love our legumes and they are sometimes things like

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Speaker 1: chick beas you can add in you know, white beans

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Speaker 1: those little energy balls, can go a long way in

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Speaker 1: terms of adding a little bit more dietary fiber in

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Speaker 1: there for some pussy kids as well.

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, well, that brings us to the end

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