1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Now there is an awful lot happening around the place 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: this morning. Northern Territory Police obviously dealing with a whole 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: raft of issues across the Northern Territory as they always are. 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: But joining me in the studio right now is the 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Assistant Commissioner of Northern Territory Police, Matthew Holland b. 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Matt. 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, Good morning Katie, Good morning to your listeners. 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time this morning. 9 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: Now, I do want to start off with the fact 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: that the Northern Territory Police are investigating the circumstances of 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: a suspicious death. 12 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: Excuse me. 13 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Earlier in the week, I've just got a sneeze a 14 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: woman who passed away at Royal Darwin Hospital. Now, at 15 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: about nine am on Monday, emergency services received reports of 16 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: a seriously ill woman at a residence in Humpty Doo. 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: Saint John Ambulance attended and conveyed the woman to Royal 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: Darwin Hospital in a critical condition, where she later passed away. 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: We understand that a crime scene was established at that 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: rural residence. 21 00:00:58,720 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: A thirty nine. 22 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Year old male known to the woman was arrested and 23 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: is assisting police with inquiries. Is there any update on 24 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: this situation? 25 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: Look, Katie, I can say that the thirty nine year 26 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 3: old Mail is still assisting police with their inquiries. Investigations 27 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 3: are ongoing into the exact circumstances of the death. And yeah, 28 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 3: it's not a simple investigation, and there might be a 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: more comprehensive update later and later today. 30 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: Do we believe that it is domestic violence related. 31 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: Katie, I won't go into details. It is, you know, 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: it's the investigation is still ongoing, and I think we'll 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: have an update. 34 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: Later today, all right, And look, I want to be 35 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: careful what we say as well, because I want to 36 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: make sure that. 37 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: That you know that they're like that. 38 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: Obviously, we don't jeopardize in any way that investigation. I 39 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: know it's an incredibly important one. I've said this morning 40 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: on the show that you know that lady is a 41 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: mum of three. 42 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: I know her father. 43 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: I don't know her, but I certainly no her father, 44 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: and I know that the community is pretty rocked by 45 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: this situation. 46 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, And at the end of the day, a lady 47 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: has died, and you know, there's a grieving family, there's 48 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: grieving children, and you know, we'll do the best we 49 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 3: can to investigate it properly. Did it get to the 50 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: bottom of it all? 51 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: Right? Well, we will wait and see whether there is 52 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: an update throughout the day. Now I want to go 53 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: across to this other terrible situation throughout this week. Northern 54 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: Territory Police have now located the body of an eighty 55 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: nine year old male who was reported missing yesterday afternoon 56 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: in the Douglas Daily. 57 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 3: Yes, Katie, so yeah, we found a search and rescue 58 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: team located the body of an eighty nine year old 59 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: man who would appear to be have been swept off 60 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: the crossing. I can say that one of his wheels 61 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: went off the crossing, so his vehicle became stuck and 62 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: you know, although it's a little bit presumptuous, but it 63 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: appears he probably got out of the car and got 64 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: washed off the crossing and drowned. So very tragic, tragic 65 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: way for this eighty nine year old man to pass away. 66 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: That is terrible. 67 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say there was another search and rescue 68 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: out in Litchfield yesterday as well, where we had a 69 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 3: reporter of some people that were missing, and we sent 70 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: up a helicopter and that actually self extracted. But they 71 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: were spotted by their helicopter and they were working with 72 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: the Search and Rescue Section along with Bachelor Police and 73 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: fortunately they're safe and well. But again, condolences to the 74 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 3: family of the man that died at Douglas Day. So 75 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: another tragedy. 76 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: It is, it's a terrible situation. 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: Now. 78 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: So the circumstances around the eighty nine year old man, 79 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: they're not considered suspicious, are they look No, I'm. 80 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: Not believed to be suspicious. So you know, he was 81 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: he was located a short distance down downstream from where 82 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: his vehicle was. 83 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: Assistant Commissioner. Then with the beach field situation and those 84 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: people missing, how many people were part of that group 85 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: and what was the situation exactly? 86 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: Well, initially were our report was that there was two 87 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: overdue people, but we ended up finding for so they 88 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 3: were stuck in the flood waters. They had they self 89 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 3: extracted and they were guided out by by the helicopter 90 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 3: that was in the air at the time. 91 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so they were in the in water. 92 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: Did you say, yeah, they've been stuck in flood, in 93 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 3: flood due to floodwaters within the park. But you know, 94 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: they were pretty self sufficient, self reliant. 95 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: And was there car stuck in water tool were they like, 96 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: were they hiking or. 97 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 3: They were traveling in a vehicle? 98 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, yeah, right, that sounds like an interesting 99 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: one too. Yeah. 100 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: And look fortunately like a search and rescue team, they 101 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: work pretty hard and they go hard early on cases 102 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: like this to prevent another tragedy. But these people were 103 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: pretty pretty self efficient, self reliant and had managed to 104 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: self extract and so it was a good ending for 105 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: those people. But again, you know, the condolences to the 106 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: family of the man that did pass away at Dale. 107 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. 108 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: I do want to move along to a bit of 109 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: info that we got through today from the Northern Territory Police. 110 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: You're calling for information following in decent assaults that occuld 111 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: in Catherine this morning. So at about six o'clock this morning, 112 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: three women traveling together on foot along the Stuart Highway 113 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: outbound for Catherine, when an unknown male approached and indecently 114 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: assaulted them. 115 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: Details, that's all right, I do have details of the 116 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 3: There was another series of indecent acts in Catherine. 117 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: On earlier in the week I think they were. 118 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, and a seventeen year old male was arrested yesterday 119 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: in relation to that, and he's been charged with one 120 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: kount of gross and decency on a child under sixteen 121 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: and five counsets of gross and decency without consent on 122 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 3: adult female victims. So very distressing for those women, absolutely, 123 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: and you know it would appear that they were walking 124 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: on a buck path at the time. And so fortunately 125 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 3: he's been he's been appranded, and I think he's in 126 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:20,559 Speaker 3: court today. 127 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: Well and yeah, and then so then it sounds like 128 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: even this morning, there's a female youth approached and indecently assaulted. 129 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: So obviously a different person I'm assuming near the Catherine 130 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: Art Gallery on the Stuart. 131 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: Highway, not across that one, but I can confirm that 132 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: on Friday there was a there was that series that 133 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: occurred and the offender has been arrested for that. 134 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: All right, well, we'll we'll see what further and fold 135 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: we can find out about that situation today that's unfolded 136 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: in Catherine. But noting that that's not your region either, 137 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: So definitely. 138 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: Asking happy to share what I know. Unfortunately I can't 139 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: share what I don't. 140 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: Let you go. Yeah, no, that's totally fine now, Assistant Commissioner. 141 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: We've also been contacted about the number of prisoners that 142 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: are currently in the watchhouses and what the watchhouse being 143 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: at absolute capacity. We're basically being told that prisoners were 144 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: kept are being kept in cells with no toilets and 145 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: they're designed obviously for holding and processing only, and that 146 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: there were requests last night by Northern Territory Police to 147 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: access more cells while they had people in the backs 148 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: of vans, but they weren't able to. 149 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, haatie, it's there's no doubt the watchhouse at 150 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: Palmerston is packed and we need to carefully manage where 151 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: we put people. And unfortunately some people were kept in 152 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: holding cells without toilets for a period of time. And 153 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: you know, we're working with Corrections on this. There's correction 154 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: prisoners in there. They're mostly corrections and yeah, it's a 155 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: difficult situation and I think Corrections are working pretty hard 156 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: to get some more beds online, which which may abate 157 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: the issue for a period of time. 158 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: Was it a situation though last night where there was literally, 159 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, people being arrested by the Northern Territory Police 160 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: them having to stay in the backs of those police 161 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: vans because there's nowhere to put them. 162 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: Well, that's kind of normal in a watchhouse where people 163 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: do stay in the back of a van for a 164 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: period of time. Ideally they would then be placed into 165 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: a holding cell until the administrative actions of the arrest 166 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: can take place. 167 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: How long are they in the backs of those vans 168 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: last night, for example? 169 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: Look, I don't have an exact time, but we certainly 170 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: did use the holding cells for periods longer than we 171 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: would like for prisoners. But you know, we're working really 172 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: hard to keep people safe in the Northern Territory and 173 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: this is one of the outcomes of what we're doing. 174 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: So just to get my head around it, though, last 175 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: night it sounds like there was prisoners that were kept 176 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: in the backs of those vans. They're not able to 177 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: then get into those holding cells because it's shock a 178 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: block inside. That would presumably mean that then police aren't 179 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: really able to get out there and continue to do 180 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 1: their jobs because they've got people that are in the 181 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: backs of the van already. 182 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I can't say how long they are in 183 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 3: the backs of vans for, but you know, there's no 184 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: question that the Palmerston Watchhouse is well at capacity, and 185 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: you know there's a lot of juggling that needs to 186 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: be done to fit more prisoners. In there on a 187 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: day to day basis, and we're working with corrections on 188 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: that and it's difficult, exceptionally difficult, and we do the 189 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: best we can with what we've got. 190 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: Are you expecting that you're going to be in the 191 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: same situation like this afternoon? 192 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: Well, today we had a number of prisoners had been 193 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: reminded in and we're in police custody and I think 194 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: there's about twenty of those going to court today, So 195 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: we don't know. We just have to see what comes 196 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 3: back from court. But it gives us time to manage 197 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: the situation with corrections, to do our best to accommodate 198 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 3: them in as comfortable of a manner as we can. 199 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: Look, I know there'll be people listening to the show 200 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: right now thinking to themselves if the police aren't able 201 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: to get people out of the backs of their vans 202 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: into a watch house. And it's not a criticism of 203 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: the police, because we know you guys are out there 204 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: trying to work really bloody hard, But how then can 205 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: you go out and continue to catch people breaking the law? 206 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, Katie, I don't think you know they 207 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: weren't there all night in the back of a vent, 208 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 3: but you know there is, it's full, and we just 209 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: need to make we need to make decisions about where 210 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: people will be placed within the watchhouse. It is difficult 211 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: showing away. It keeps me awake at night thinking about 212 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 3: how my people are going in the watchhouse. 213 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: Well, and I suppose you know, thinking about then the 214 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: police officers that are on the ground, excuse me, on 215 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: the ground, you know, trying to work out a way 216 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: of how they're continuing to do their job when they 217 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: can't get those people that are broken the law then 218 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: into a watchhouse. 219 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, Katie, we don't We would never tell our 220 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: people not to arrest an offender because you know we 221 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: might have a difficulty accommodating them. That's just not going 222 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: to happen. We're going to do our job. We're going 223 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: to do our dartest to keep the people of the 224 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 3: territory safe and if that includes arresting more people, so 225 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: be it. 226 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: How many people are in like the holding cell. 227 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: Look that it varies, you know, it varies, you know, 228 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: by the hour basically, but there's not a lot of 229 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: room in those holding cells, so they might hold two 230 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: or three. They're only very small, so that you know, 231 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: it's basically a transit to the front counter, to the 232 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: front counter of the watchhouse. But yeah, they are being 233 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 3: held therefore for periods longer than we. 234 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: Would like like ours. 235 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: I'm not too sure, but we have used them to 236 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 3: hold people until room becomes available. 237 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: So all right, we've actually just had a call through. 238 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: Now I don't know if you're know anything about this, 239 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: but somebody's literally just called through and said there's been 240 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: a body found in Palmerston near the old A and 241 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: Z bank near the boulevard opposite the bank. A taxi 242 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: driver calling in to let us know that there's four 243 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: police at the scene. Do you know anything about that? 244 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 3: No, No, I don't at all, Cody, Sorry. 245 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: Okah, No, that's all right. 246 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: We'll see what we can find out. I mean, you're 247 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: in here, you're not out listening to the phone at 248 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: the moment, so we'll see what we can find out. 249 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: But that does sound like a terrible situation if that's 250 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: the case, so we'll certainly keep our listeners on to that. 251 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got one more. 252 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 253 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: So on the weekend there was a car crash where 254 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: a twenty one year old driver who was also unlicensed, 255 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: who was a driver in the crash was blue point 256 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: three zero four, which is a ridiculously high reading. And 257 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 3: you know, we had sixty people die on our roads 258 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 3: last year, so we just need to not take our 259 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 3: foot off the road safety messaging to the community as well. 260 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that was atrocious when I heard that. That's 261 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: such a high reading for such a young person. 262 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, you know, people like you and I 263 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 3: aren't capable of getting to that level of intoxication. It's 264 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 3: you know, it's not far off being dead. 265 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: Honestly, I wouldn't Yeah, I wouldn't be able to cope, 266 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: but I don't think. 267 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let alone. 268 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: There are still idiots out there, and we're just to 269 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 3: ask the community to be aware that we will be 270 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 3: out there for throughout the year, particularly in relation with 271 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 3: the focus on drink driving. 272 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Assistant Commissioner, Before I let you go, a couple 273 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: of quick things that our listeners have raised. So Rob 274 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: has called in to ask are there charges laid for 275 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: servo drive offs? 276 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: Look, there can be in certain circumstances, and yeah, you 277 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 3: can be charged with stealing because you didn't pay for 278 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 3: property that you took. So it is possible to be 279 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: charged with stealing from a survey. 280 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: Driver Hey, something I did want to ask you about 281 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: that had slipped my mind for a moment. But we 282 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: keep getting calls in from the rural area and also 283 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: from Palmerston actually about people riding like motorbikes and ATVs 284 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: that really should be for off road that are unlicensed, 285 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: but they're they're riding them on the roads out in 286 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: the rural area and also around Palmerston. Have you guys 287 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: had many reports of this? 288 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 3: Look, we do from time to time get reports, you know, 289 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: an unregistered ATV or an unregistered off road motorcycle or 290 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: an unlicensed youth rider. It's illegal, and you know it's 291 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: what we would say is parents are responsible for their 292 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 3: children who are riding ATVs and unregistered motorcycles. You know, 293 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 3: it's one of those things that if we chase a 294 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 3: child on a motorcycle, there's not going to be a 295 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: good outcome. And so we're we you know, we don't 296 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: we do target it, but we don't actively pursue people 297 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: in those dangerous circumstances. 298 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: So like out in the rural area where there are 299 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: plenty of people kind of getting in contact saying that 300 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: it's happening, does they need to be like a bit 301 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: of an awareness campaign or something out there. 302 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and look we do enforce those laws when we can. 303 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: But also there is a parental responsibility here as well, 304 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 3: because most of those people, our children, youth, teenagers on 305 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: unregistered motorcycles and they don't have licenses. So we just 306 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: ask parents to be responsible and not let their kids 307 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: ride their ATVs or unregistered motorcycles without a license on roads. 308 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: Well, Assistant Commissioner of the Northern Territory Police Matt Hollanby, 309 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: really appreciate your time this morning. Thanks so much for 310 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: joining us. 311 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: Always a pleasure, Katie, Thank you,