WEBVTT - A JOYRIDE WITH CARLA FROM BANKSTOWN 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:03.600 TV Reload the podcast last week. 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:07.520 They might welcome back to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris, 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:10.200 and on this podcast I go behind the scenes with 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:13.960 the biggest players in television. Each episode you will get 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:18.920 a front row seat with content makers like executive producers, writers, 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:22.560 editors and casting agents, plus the talent that we see 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:26.360 on our screens. TV Reload reloads the shows that you 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:29.560 are currently watching and gives you a better insight at 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:33.839 our television industry and streaming services today. On the podcast, 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:37.400 I have the gorgeously talented ben otherwise known as Carla 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:41.680 from Bankstown joining me. From Celebrity Apprentice, the iconic character 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:45.840 Carla rose to prominence during COVID lockdowns as Gladys Baro 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:50.320 Jicklian's assistant, and from TikTok to mainstream media. The story 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:52.920 of a girl from Bankstown has warmed the heart of 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:56.080 Australia like a hot toddy after a three day dance party. 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.960 I have loved every second of their time on Apprentice 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.200 and the term gronk has made me laugh like a 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:04.800 school kid at the back of the classroom. Right from 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:08.080 the start, I will talk about how this amazing opportunity 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.280 came about, the drama from behind the scenes, who's a 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:13.960 gronk and who's not a gronk and what is next 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.800 for this amazing character. However, let's get started with today's guest. 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:21.720 I'd like to welcome Ben aka Carla from Bankstown to 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:22.720 TV Reload. 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:25.839 You're not going to see Nicole Kidman or Russell Crowe 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:29.120 on Celebrity Apprentice. It's going I set the rules, I 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.280 asked the questions and I make the final decision. 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.360 Sorry, I don't talk to people that don't like Sorry, he. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:39.360 Can from the star studded lineup of Australian icons. 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.039 Can I go and start some drama? And she's like, 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:43.200 I would love for you to do that. 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:47.000 They've all signed on to raise mind blowing money for 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:48.240 deserving charity. 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.680 He'd never know who was going to get fired as. 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:56.080 They battle it out to become the next Celebrity Apprentice. 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.480 I'm just really proud of myself for, I guess, taking 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.440 a really shit situation and turning it into something amazing. 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:04.120 Hey there, how are you. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.400 I'm good, How are you well? 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:10.640 Congratulations on Celebrity Appredice. I think that you are the 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:14.280 breakout star of this season. Everyone in my house is 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.440 a gronk at the moment, and it's all thanks to you. 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.080 I'm just glad that Aushirlia gets to use that in 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.799 the vocabulary now, like that's the new word. My mum 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:24.600 and dad say to me all the time. My grandma 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.120 says that everyone says it. So I'm just very happy 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.680 to have that back out in the world. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:31.079 Maybe we should try and see. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.359 We can get it in the dictionary Urban Dictionary. We'll 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.920 get onto the Urban Dictionary. You know, when you first 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:39.480 walked onto the screen, some people thought that you were 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:40.760 a bit of an odd choice. 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:42.560 How did this show come up for you? 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:46.240 Well, I mean, look, Carla was just something that I 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:49.480 kind of started on a whim, just to like have 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.639 a bit of fun and I guess, you know, build 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.480 up my confidence because you know all the things that 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.720 I want to be, Karla is. 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:00.680 So for me, it was just really something that I. 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.400 Wanted to do to kind of like get outside myself 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.200 and kind of like show who I am as a 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:06.040 person kind of thing. 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:06.519 And then. 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.480 Glad I've bought the Chicken's office speaker with Carlor from bankson, 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:16.400 how can I help you today? Oh my god, bro, 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:24.440 Anastasia parachutes, but what do you want? No, last time 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:29.520 you called, I told you don't call again, bro. You 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.880 know doing I did a couple of stories on a 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.520 Current Affair and Carlo was kind of like building up 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.320 momentum during lockdown and COVID and all that stuff. So 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.880 when I got the call that they wanted me on 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.040 the show, I was just kind of like, are you 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:42.760 are you sure? 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.600 I don't know, I used, are you really? 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:47.880 Like you really want me on the show, because I 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:52.120 know that like obviously, being famous on the Internet, a 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:55.320 lot of people don't see that as being a celebrity 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.560 or whatever the case may be. But looking back on it, 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:02.400 it's kind of like Australia really doesn't have that many celebrities, 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:03.880 Like we don't really have Like you're not going to 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.440 see Nicole Kidman or Russell Crowe on Celebrity Apprentice. It's 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.080 not gonna happen, do you know what I mean? Like 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:09.920 we're not going to get fucking Rebel Wilson to come 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:11.280 and do Dancing with the Stars. 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:12.080 That's not gonna happen. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:16.200 Ever, and we have so many reality shows now with celebrities. 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:17.919 I mean, surely we're getting to the bottom of the 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:19.400 barrel to like looking for them. 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:21.080 You know, I. 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.279 Literally just said I literally just said that to Darren. 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.919 We were talking about, like, oh, what's next for Carla, 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.400 Like what are we up to? And I was like, look, 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.839 I mean I could do another celebrity show, but I 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.040 really just don't know who else they would cast because 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:34.960 we really just so we're kind of like scraping the 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:36.799 bottom unless they just do all maths. 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:38.560 People, I honestly think you. 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:40.520 I mean, I'd be really shocked if you don't go 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.880 to Africa and do I'm a Celebrity this year. I 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.000 mean I could watch you on every show. 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:48.360 I think if I was to do I'm a Celebrity, 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:49.919 get me out of here, I would make it in 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.480 my contract that I have to bring my vape or 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.680 my cigarettes with me because I could not survive being 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.760 in that fucking jungle without some form of nicotine to 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.200 get me through and a coffee. 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:03.720 Every morning. I have to have a coffee otherwise I'm 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:04.520 not doing it. Sorry. 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:06.480 I think it's called the Shane warn contract. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.440 Yes, yeah, one hundred percent, that's me. I will I'm 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.359 going to be the Mariah Carey of the season. And 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.719 I'm just going to demand a million things only should 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:15.960 be from the left side, and I want my coffee 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.719 and I want my cigarette. Thank you so much. 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.960 Well, now you were talking like a celebrity, so I know, right, 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.760 were you nervous to go up against these sort of 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.880 let's call them mainstream celebrities, you know, were you nervous 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.840 to go into the pack and then compete against them? 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.600 Absolutely. I think the first episode that we filmed, when 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.839 we met everybody, I was kind of like, I'm a 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:42.240 massive reality TV fan, Like reality TV is something that 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.640 I watch on a daily basis, like you know, watching 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:47.599 You and Big Brother and all that kind of stuff, 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:51.080 Like that's just something that it's my life. So to 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.440 be in the company of like all these celebrity I 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.040 was just like, oh my god, what is happening right now? 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.040 Like are you sure this is actually happening? It was 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.280 such a weird thing. But when we filmed the Golf 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:04.120 Day episode, the first episode, I got home and spoke 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.839 to I rang my mum and the first thing I 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.080 said to her was I just was like, Okay, how 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:13.640 are you going, And I'm like, no not. It was 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.840 like burst into tears because I was just so overwhelmed 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.000 because you know, all these people like have all these 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.880 black Book contacts and they have all these like companies 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:23.919 that would give them all this money for their charity. 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:25.520 And he's me just being. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.479 Like, who's color gonna call, like the drug dealer down 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:28.880 the road while we don't worry you to give her 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:31.280 some money laundering money or something like, I don't know 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.839 who I'm going to call. But it was a little 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:37.080 bit intimidating at first, but everyone was really welcoming and 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.560 really appreciative of what I was doing. And a few 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:42.920 people had already seen me in the past, like Samantha 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:45.880 Jade was like, oh my god, guys. Sebastian's wife, Jules 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:47.320 loves you. She watches you all the time. 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.719 I was like, oh wow, okay, cool. They so yeah. 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.720 It was very intimidating at first, but I got used 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:54.520 to it by the end of it. 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.520 So I heard a rumor from the set of the show. 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.359 I know a few people that have on it, I 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.720 know a few people work on it, and they said 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.960 that Lord Sugar had a soft spot for you, which 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.520 I went to watch the show thinking, you know, he 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:09.480 was just going to be obsessed with you. But in 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.800 last night's final episode for you, there seemed to be 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:14.600 a bit of tension between the two of you. So 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:16.880 what's the truth? Was he obsessed with Look? 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.640 I mean I the first okay, the first thing he 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:24.120 ever said to me when we all met the first 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.240 night when we were all together and they come walking 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.040 out and introduce themselves, the first thing he said to me. 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.400 He like looked at me, like did like a double 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.880 take and was like are you a Sheila or like 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:35.880 which what are you? And I was like, oh, fuck, 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:39.040 here we go, right. So I was kind of just 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.200 like thinking to myself, I don't know what he's going 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.520 to come out of this man's mouth next. So I mean, look, 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.120 I'm happy to say that I was probably I'm probably 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.000 the only celebrity that's been on that show that actually 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.280 got a smile out of him and actually made him 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:56.160 laugh because he just he every time I walked into 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:58.160 the boardroom in and out fit, he would always just 0:07:58.240 --> 0:07:59.920 be like, wow, Carla. 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.360 You look beautiful, and it was just like it was 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:03.360 a nice relationship. 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.080 But by the end of it, when like last night's 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.600 episode when I got fired and I was trying to 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:10.800 explain myself, there was a lot of it that they 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:12.960 cut out, and every time I tried to explain myself, 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:14.680 he just kept cutting me off, and he just kept 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.760 wanting to move on to the next thing. And then 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.920 obviously like they played the part of me when. 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:22.280 I called him an old. 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:23.880 Man and said that I was sick of his shit, 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:27.640 I was like, oh God, but I was just really 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.520 like in that moment because I just I didn't want 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:32.360 to go because I just wanted to I wanted to 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.680 keep going. I wanted to try and prove myself more 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.680 and more. And he just really kissed me off that 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.240 episode because he just told me that I oh, you know, 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.400 he didn't really do a lot, but it's like you 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:44.880 were there to see what I actually did, Like I 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.800 did quite a lot that wasn't actually put into the episode. 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.440 It just kind of like make me look like an idiot. 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.160 I guess I don't know, but I mean I love him. 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:56.320 He was He was really nice. He was to me anyway. 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:58.360 I mean, he didn't really like a few other people 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.520 you know, called for actually said Gronks at one point too, 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:03.640 which I was very proud of, which I'm annoyed that 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.040 they didn't put in the show because that would have 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:08.079 been so funny he I think it was the episode 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.559 when we did the challenge at Manly where we had 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.440 to do like sell all the random shit at Manly Beach. 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.240 He met up with us and we were talking and 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:21.760 he's like, oh, right, celebrities. You know, we're halfway through 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.640 this task his competition and looks like Carla and Van 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:28.000 are the people to be so watch out Bronx and 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:32.079 I died. I was like, oh my god, he said it, 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:33.560 but they didn't put it in. 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.200 I'm like, God, what missed opportunity? 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:39.960 Honestly, yeah, that is the That's the biggest missed opportunity 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.880 this year since not using Oatsalaalila again and the new 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:43.360 Big Brother. 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.480 I know, what the what the hell? 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.480 What were they thinking? You know, who did you click 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.679 with the most out of the cast? I mean there 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.320 was obviously a really obvious friendship with you and Darren. 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.040 Is that the person that you've bought? Is that the 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:58.240 prize of the show. You've walked away with Darren as 0:09:58.280 --> 0:09:59.000 your best friend? 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.960 I mean, I Darren Is. 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.640 I never thought that I would be friends with Darren ever, 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:06.160 because when I first met him, I was like, this 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.160 guy is such a smart ass. I don't know I 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.200 feel like we're gonna clash or something, but he ended 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.920 up being like the person that would Obviously he gave 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.520 me a few pep talks on camera, but we would 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.559 like call each other after each episode and have a 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:21.520 chat and go out for dinner and just like kind 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.400 of vent to each other about what was happening. But 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.240 I would say, like his friendship. I got along really 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:29.280 well with Bronti as well. Me and Bronti talk all 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:33.560 the time. Samantha Gamble, I'd say, probably like I was 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:37.360 good friends with everybody, but Bronti and Darren were probably 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.600 the two that were like because I got so far 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:42.400 with them, they were the ones that were kind of 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.400 like had my back a lot of the time. So 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:47.000 I mean, all my friendships that I made with everybody, 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:48.760 I mean I never thought that I'd have Samantha Jade's 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:49.520 phone number in my phone. 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:50.800 I could just call her up and say hey, go 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.440 with literally like the amount of time. Like when I 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:55.000 first met her. 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.360 The first thing I said to her, I was like, Hi, Sammy, 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:58.719 I'm obsessed with you. 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:00.679 I just wanted to let you know that you are 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.760 a gay icon. And she's like, oh, thank you so much. 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.800 That's so so much by Starter is my motherfucking jam Biach, 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:10.640 you are an legend, And I just kept reminding her 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:11.960 every day I see you, I'm like, Hi. 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.200 You're a gay icon. Do I forget? Thanks, Carlor. 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:16.560 They are the good ones. 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:17.680 We need to get out of the way, But we 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.679 also need to find out who the gronks were in 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:20.200 the cast. 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:22.280 So who were the biggest gronks? 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.840 Look, I think I think everyone that's listening to this 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.080 can kind of figure out for themselves who the biggest 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:31.920 gronks were on the show, and they didn't really need 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.040 editing to make themselves look like fucking idiots. 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.760 But I mean, look, I got along. 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:41.040 With everybody, even like Beck for example, Like I obviously 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.240 watched back when she was on Maps, so I kind 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.240 of like got the whole thing of her being the 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.680 villain on the show or whatever that was. But like 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.040 meeting her, we had spoken on Instagram prior to that, 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.480 she followed me before that, and then she was probably 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.440 the only person that I knew kind of on a 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:56.439 personalish level. 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.000 When I walked into the show and saw everyone there, 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.319 she was okay to me. I think she just rubbed 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.040 a lot of girls the wrong way because. 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.720 I think putting a bunch of girls together and women 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:08.440 together who have really big. 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.440 Personalities, there's always going to be a clush somewhere. 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.160 So I think that's kind of why none of the 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.520 girls really got along with her, like Terria or Gamble 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:16.400 or whoever it was. 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.000 I think the only other person. 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:19.560 That I didn't really get along with them that I 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:23.559 really just can't stand, it's probably Ronnie from the Block. 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:28.640 I'd stand him. Oh my god, Like it's just cringey 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.240 watching back these episodes and seeing him like, you know, 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.240 yelling at Tera and oh my god. 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.319 It just like because I hate bleeding. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.880 I was bleied most of my life and by people 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:42.440 who reminded me so much of him, just like that 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:47.000 toxic straight masculinity and just being like really opinionated, and 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:49.520 I just didn't really like he was nice to me, 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.480 but I just didn't trust him. I just didn't jel 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.040 well with him because I just knew what he was 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:53.520 all about. 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:55.760 So I was like, nah, sorry, I relate to you 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.680 a lot, And I think I can imagine you would 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:00.840 say things to these people that I would say, because 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:02.920 I just say, you know, someone walks into the room 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.040 dressed as a frog, I'm like oh a frog and I, 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.079 but also we watch a lot of the same stuff. 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.160 We watch all the reality TV. I would have pulled 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.240 Ronnie aside and said, you know, I know you didn't 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.440 your house didn't sell very well in that last you 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.480 know series of the block, and then you didn't want 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:17.520 to stick around on camera. 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.600 You stormed off. You know what was all that about? 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:19.880 You know? 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.800 Did you go around and ask all of these other celebrities, 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:26.440 especially the reality TV people, why they'd behaved stupidly on 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:27.319 other shows. 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.480 I mean I spoke with beck about the whole drama 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.560 with her when she was on her season, and she 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.720 kind of like filled me in on like behind the 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.360 scenes of how they edited it and put it all 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:38.440 together and matched her. 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.560 With that guy whoever she was with or whatever. But 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.520 with Ronnie, I just kind of really just didn't want 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.120 to talk to him. I didn't want to bore of you. 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.560 But see, like the thing is, there were so many 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.120 times that a lot of us called him out on 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.719 the bullshit and said things to him. 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:55.439 Or whatever, but they just didn't play it. 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.760 Like when we were at the Fairfield Markets doing the 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:02.240 car boot sale, I was on the megaphone walking around 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:05.360 and the producers were like kind of looking at us, like, 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.559 you guys need to keep doing more stuff, like it's 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.839 kind of boring, like pick up the pace. And I 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:11.760 literally said to her, I was like, can I go 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:13.800 and start some drama? And She's like, I would love 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.760 for you to do that, Please go and do something. 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:16.600 I was like, all right. 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:18.480 So I had the megaphone and I walked over to 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.240 where their team was and I'm like, don't go to 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.440 these guys, they're grunds. Well, I come to our stool. 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.680 And then Ronnie was like, oh, Carla from Bankstown and 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.000 celebrity Apprentice, don't you have to actually be a celebrity 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:28.640 be on the show. 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.440 And I looked at him and on the megaphone and 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:32.880 I was like, how many times did you lose the block? Twice? 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:33.240 Oh? 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:33.720 Sorry? 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:35.880 And then kind of just like walked away from him 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:40.160 and he just kind of was like, oh okay, but yeah. 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.680 And then like the episode where he kind of him 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:44.560 and Teria had it out in the boardroom, when he 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.720 came back in, we could see that Terri was visibly upset, 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:49.440 and we kind of like sat with her. 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:50.680 We were like, what's going on? 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.080 Are you okay? And she just kind of told us, 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.360 and Ronnie was standing with back and I kind of 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:58.000 like called out. I was like Ronnie, and he turned 0:14:58.040 --> 0:14:59.440 and I was like, yeah, Carlo, what's wrong? And I 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:04.160 said why? Why do you think that Terria is sabotaging in? 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.920 What the fuck's a problem? And he was like, oh, oh, oh, 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:08.880 you know, don't you worries? It comes like kind of 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.280 staunching over to me and like starts like going off 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.600 at me about Teria or whatever. And because when he 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.760 walked in, I didn't acknowledge that he had walked in 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:18.240 the room because I was like, I don't want to 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:19.760 give you the time of day, so I kind of 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:21.760 just said, you know nothing. And the first thing he 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.880 said was oh, thanks for welcoming me back into the room. 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:25.800 I said, well, I don't like you, so why would 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:30.880 I lit I don't like you, why would I bother? Sorry, 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:32.720 I don't talk to people that don't like Sorry. 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:33.800 I love it so much. 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:37.200 I just think, yeah, sometimes you feel I think sometimes 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.520 your brand is you know, what have I got to lose? 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:41.200 I'm just going to be myself and I'm going to 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:41.960 call it as it is. 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.440 And it's not that you're particularly being malicious for malicious sake, 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:49.120 you're literally just explaining to everyone on the basic terms 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.000 how they're coming across. 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:51.200 You know what I mean. 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.360 Yeah, And I think like for me going on a 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.720 show like this where obviously the people on the show 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:01.280 are obviously very established, they know, like people know who 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.360 they are, what their brand is, what they're selling, all 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:05.400 that kind of stuff, whereas with me, not a lot 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.040 of people knew who I was, so I just kind 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.720 of felt like I had free rein to make that 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:13.040 impression and be like outspoken or funny or whatever it is, 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:14.880 and I didn't really have to worry like, oh, no, 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:16.080 what are people going to think of me? 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:17.880 It's like I don't really care what people think about me. 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:19.960 That's my whole thing, because I don't give a shit 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.800 what people think about Carla. So I think that was 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.680 like probably the best part where, you know, all the 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.080 producers said to me, like my interviews. 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:29.720 Were always the best because I would just talk so 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.960 much shit and you know, half a bath and you know, 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:35.200 all that kind of stuff. So, I mean, I enjoyed 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:36.560 it quite a lot. It was probably one of the 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:37.440 best things I've ever done. 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.160 To be honest, Well, you were able to be Ben 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:43.320 and Carla during production? Was that always on the table, 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:45.480 Like did you decide to do that at the start 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.120 of production or I mean, was there what sort of 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:52.240 a conversation did you have about fluctuating between Ben and Carla. 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.640 Well, when they first approached me, they obviously floated the 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:59.320