1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: We had the Premier Gladys puridicling with us this morning 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: and lots to talk about. It seems that well as 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: we know, India is a disaster zone regarding COVID. It's 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: put Australia on edge a little and quite a lot. 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: Actually we have more positive COVID cases in hotel quarantine. 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: There's a giant spike all around Australia. What are we 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 2: going to do? Good morning, Premier how Amanda, how Jones glads. 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: The big question that the constituents of this fair st day, 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: I want to know where did you go to? Nightclubs? 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: Did you go to the War in Peace Disco? 12 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: I didn't actually know I went to I shouldn't really 13 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: say it. The first one I ever went to legally, 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: I might say, was Macy's in Sydney, did you guys 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 1: nor Mays had a piano? Yeah, yeah, that was it. 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 3: Piano. 17 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: It was across the road from Macy's because the coffee 18 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: shop is still there whatever. The nightclub was across the 19 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: Military road Peana. No, it was on military road anyway. 20 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: My friends will remember, they'll ring up and tell me 21 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: yeah there, it wasn't. 22 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: Steps oh yeah, steps was it was step. 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, steps was Everyone talked about steps in the day. Yeah, 24 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: but the one I went to was on Militi Road. 25 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: So you go, yeah, go. 26 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 3: And look at you. Now you're the premier and you're 27 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 3: doing a great job every day. You must when you 28 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 3: stand in front of a press conference. So you go, Okay, 29 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: you're getting really good at the press conference. 30 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: Now there's no not really, I think. I think what 31 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: you do though, is because of COVID and because of 32 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: the fires and everything else, people, I think there's more 33 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: live press conferences. So I know that I'm talking directly 34 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: to the public. I'm not talking through anybody. So I'm 35 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: trying to be as direct as I can to make 36 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: sure that I'm as clear as possible because people do 37 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: rely on what you're telling them, the information you're giving them. 38 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: So it has helped me become a better communicator. I 39 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: still have a way to go, but I think it 40 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: has helped in the way you get the message across. 41 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about what the message at the moment. 42 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: This this Indian strain I guess of the virus is 43 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: so terror fine, and I know that there are our 44 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: humanitarian selves say yes, keep the flights coming, but Australians 45 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: are scared at the moment that the only breach we 46 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: have is in our hotel quarantine. I know Victoria is 47 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: going to set up a custom made quarantine station. Do 48 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: we need that? 49 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: I don't think so, Amanda. I actually don't think that's 50 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: a good thing to do. And the reason is a 51 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: quarantine facility needs literally thousands of staff, so you'd need 52 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: to make sure you have thousands of staff available to 53 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: house it. The risk is there no matter where you 54 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: have the quarantine system, because staff have to then go 55 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: home to their families. And that's why New South Wales 56 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: we made sure and I lobbied the federal government and 57 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: they supported me. They agreed with me. I pushed back 58 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: and said, the first people we need to vaccinate have 59 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: to be all the people in and around our quarantine system, 60 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter where people work, they still have 61 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: to go home to their families. They can then pass 62 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: on the virus to them. Their families go to work 63 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: and school and everything else, and so it's really important 64 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: to have a tight system where you locate. It is 65 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: less significant than having a really good system, and for 66 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: us it works in the CBD of Sydney because it's 67 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: close to the airport. The longer people are in buses 68 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: and close kind of proximity to each other, there's more 69 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: chance of the virus spreading. So you have to think 70 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: about all these things, the time it takes you transport people, 71 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 1: the method you use to get people from one room 72 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: to another. Look, our system isn't perfect, but I'm convinced 73 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: that it's the best we have in Australia. And so 74 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: every time there's an issue in another state or around 75 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: the world with the quarantine system, we listen, we learn 76 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: and we adapt our system accordingly. For example, our people 77 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: in New South Wales are so specific that they were 78 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: able to tell me on one occasion that the virus 79 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: spread because one of the doors at the bottom of 80 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: the hotel room was slightly had a higher gap than 81 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: the other house, and so we knew that once we 82 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: fixed that that would be fit. So this is how 83 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: contagious the virus can get. Terrifying it is, but I 84 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: think also full credit to our New South Wales police 85 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: who manage the quarantine system, our health officials, but also 86 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: I've had the opportunity to make with the cleaners, the 87 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: hotel staff. It is a complex operation, and New South 88 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: Wales touch wood. We've not let off for a day. 89 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: We've let three thousand assis OSSI's come home every week. 90 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: We've let home nearly one hundred and ninety thousand just 91 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: in New South Wales and the other states of pause. 92 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: Victoria was out of action for months because of their 93 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: situation down there. Other states aren't taking them. The other 94 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: states are saying New South Wales can do. 95 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: The heavy and India as well. They were doing okay, 96 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 3: but then they decided to let a few religious ceremonies 97 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 3: and giant mass gatherings come ahead. So they're going through 98 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 3: their second wave and because of their close approximate all 99 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: the people living in dense population there, they're experiencing their 100 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: second wave. But it's at a great cost. 101 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: Well, we continue to have these mutant strains, oh absolutely. 102 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: Remember you know, a few weeks ago everybody was talking 103 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: about the UK strain or the South African strain, and 104 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: I say to our people, you know, the health expertsive 105 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: advised me the variants are going to keep happening. Some 106 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: will be more contagious than others, some you know, very 107 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: high concern compared to us others. But this is living 108 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: with COVID. This is what we have to accept. We 109 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: shouldn't be surprised anymore. But it's how we manage things 110 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: moving forward. And my heart goes out to the people 111 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: of India because they have a very different culture and 112 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: lifestyle than we do. People live in extended families. You 113 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: would have multiple people in the one household, so if 114 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: one person gets and what even worries me is even 115 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: you know, we're lucky in a country like Australia, we 116 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: have the resources for ppe and other things. But I 117 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: was looking at the TV thinking some of the doctors 118 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: weren't even protected. They didn't have the equipment, they weren't 119 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: wearing the right clothes to be able to protect themselves. 120 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: So you know, anything we can do as a nation 121 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: to support India, we should. And my heart goes out. 122 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: We've got lots of Indian, all of us of Indian, 123 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, people with Indian heritage here. I don't think 124 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: there's a single person that doesn't know someone over there 125 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: who suffering. 126 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: And the Astroseneka vaccine versus the fires A vaccine, so 127 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 3: now I'm in It suddenly became real for me when 128 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: because I'm fifty three, all of a sudden, I've been 129 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: moved up the chain. I was bestfully saying, I'll wait 130 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: my turn. You know, I'm not essential work. It doesn't 131 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 3: matter if I get it now. I'm ready to get it. 132 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 3: But when I hear about these blood clots, you suddenly think. 133 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: Look, every vaccine, everything, even the pill, as we know, 134 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: has has that risk. It's far greater with the pill 135 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: than it is with astushenka. I've taken the astrosenica. I 136 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: wanted to take the vaccine that the vast majority of 137 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: people would be getting. I took it, and I would 138 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: recommend Look, if anyone has concerns, speak to your doctor. 139 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: But the chance of you developing something as a result 140 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: of the vaccine is very, very very small. It's very slight. 141 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 1: But put it this way, our health experts have advised 142 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: that to date they don't know of a single person 143 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: anywhere who's had the vaccine and died from COVID. So 144 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you won't get it, it doesn't mean you 145 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: won't pass it on. But the key thing for us 146 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: moving forward in Australia has to be keeping people out 147 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: of hospital. We have to eventually accept and I know 148 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: it's a big call for us to have this mind shift. 149 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: But once the rest of the world starts opening up 150 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: and people start traveling, the test that we need to 151 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: use about how well we're doing is to keep people 152 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: out of home hospital because just like the cold, we 153 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: don't count how many people get the flu, but we 154 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: do count how many people are in hospital or die 155 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: from the flu. And unfortunately that's going to have to 156 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: be part of our thinking because otherwise, as nice as 157 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: it is living in our bubble, you know, it gets 158 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: to a point where too many jobs will be lost 159 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: and we'll go backwards too. 160 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: Much about this yesterday. It's as basic as not as basic. 161 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: But the first basic is eating well and living a 162 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: healthy life, look after yourself so you don't get sick 163 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: and so that you stay out of hospital. And I 164 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: think we've lost sight of that message in this as well. 165 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: If you eat well and are healthy, you've got better 166 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: chance of keeping this stuff at bay. 167 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we also need to and when people are 168 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: worried about taking the vaccine, I think look at the consequence. 169 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: You know they'll at the moment. We have a great 170 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: system in Australia. We're preventing community transmission. We're still allowing 171 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: os Is to come back home. But they'll come a 172 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: point in time at which we'll think to ourselves, do 173 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: we continue living in the bubble that they are or 174 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: do we start reintegrating with the rest of the world. 175 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: And in New South Wales it's never been about the 176 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: dollars for us. It's been about keeping the community safe. 177 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: But every month we're losing about one and a half 178 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: billion dollars in New South Wales because we don't have 179 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: international travel, whether it's tourism, whether it's business, whether it's 180 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: all the industries that feed off the travel, but also 181 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: our skilled labor. A lot of major companies have people 182 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: that can't really move back and forth because of those issues, 183 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: so we start even starting to see a skilled labor shortage. 184 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: So they're the issues we're confronting. But my job is 185 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: not only to keep the community safe, but to think 186 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: about the jobs in our future and how we can 187 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: get it to a safe landing. And that's why I 188 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: say to people that come to a point in time 189 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: when the vaccine will be more attractive to people who 190 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: might not be comfortable with it yet. For my job 191 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: is to get all of our adult population in New 192 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: South Wales vaccinated as soon as possible, because that keeps 193 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: us safe, it stops the spread, and it stops people dying. 194 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: And there's a lot of piano players that are ready 195 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: to get back in those piano bars. That's true, that's bad. 196 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: True. But the really important thing for us is to 197 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: start thinking about how we really live with COVID moving forward, 198 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: because this could be around for years. The virus may mutate, 199 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: they might be different viruses down the track, and I 200 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: think we're in a fortunate position to have options. But 201 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: we also can't be complacent and just think we're not 202 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: going to be affected, because we know also community transmission 203 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: can happen very quickly. 204 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: Look at Victoria. 205 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: Within two weeks they had like two or three hundred 206 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: cases a day, and then it shot up to I 207 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: think seven or eight hundred a day, right, and they well, 208 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: and they had so many deaths. So it's really important 209 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: for us not to be complacent. 210 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 3: Well, gladdus, it's always great to catch up with you. You 211 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: look at yourself. You're doing a great job. 212 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: Thank you you too, both of you keep entertaining, informing 213 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: and advising, and thank you. 214 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: I'm glad you didn't back me up there when I said, oh, 215 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 3: I'm not an essential worker. That's where you're supposed to say. 216 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: We'll hang on, John. 217 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: Do you know what I've said to people, Sorry, I'm 218 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: taking too much time. Anyone in a job is an 219 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: essential way. 220 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 3: There it is. That's our bremmire. Thank you, Gladys 221 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: Jonesy and Amanda's