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Speaker 1: But joining me in the studio right now from the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police it is Commander David Moore.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Good morning Katie and to the listeners.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time this morning. Now, David,

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Speaker 1: I understand that there's actually been an incident in Karama overnight.

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Speaker 1: What's happened, Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: Probably pretty much hot off the press. So basically, at

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Speaker 3: ten fifty four pm on Tuesday, the eleventh of February,

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Speaker 3: police received reports that two males armed with stolen knives

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Speaker 3: and obviously we're running around the street in Menanda Terrace.

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Speaker 3: Also there was a report of a stolen wallet that occurred.

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Speaker 3: So when police obviously there was a sixteen year old

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Speaker 3: victim that was involved in that with his and he

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Speaker 3: was walking with his eighteen year old friend. They were

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Speaker 3: assaulted and that property, as I've mentioned, we was Stalin.

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Speaker 3: What I can confirm is that when police obviously spoke

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Speaker 3: to the victims, there was no stolen knives.

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Speaker 2: Ascertained at that stage.

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Speaker 3: So obviously there was a bit of an alert for

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Speaker 3: us to go to that very quickly because of that,

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Speaker 3: But it was just actually Stalin Stalin property in relationship.

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Speaker 3: They weren't actually badly injured, which was really good. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but the offenders are actually being just riders. A twelve

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Speaker 3: nineteen years of age. They were last seen heading towards

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Speaker 3: Karama's shops. Well, I can say they're also wanting to

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Speaker 3: stolen by two years who were matching that descriptions. We

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Speaker 3: do want to speak to them quite urgently. So my

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Speaker 3: just a plead to the public at the moment if

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Speaker 3: they had any information or seen anything or wish to

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Speaker 3: give any information on that, please call police on one

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Speaker 3: three to one triple four or Crime Stoppers an eighteen

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Speaker 1: So Commander, just for me to get this clear in

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Speaker 1: my mind. So ten fifty four last night, a sixteen

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Speaker 3: Allegedly, the report came in that they were assaulted and

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Speaker 3: the offenders had knives during their assault when it was

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Speaker 3: ascertained that wasn't the case. There was no knives involved.

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Speaker 3: What was actually stylin was the wallets of both of

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Speaker 3: no knives involved at that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so no knives, but nonetheless they've stolen they've stolen this,

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Speaker 1: you know, the victim's wallet. Did they assault him?

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Speaker 3: They did, but it was minor, It wasn't anything significant,

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Speaker 3: never less than assaults.

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Speaker 2: An assault.

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Speaker 3: I don't trivialize that at all. But obviously we believe

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Speaker 1: And so that home believed that they're linked to a

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Speaker 1: what time do you think that happened? Do we know?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not not aware of that at this stage.

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Speaker 1: But anyone within FO one through one Triple four is

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Speaker 1: the number to get in contact with the Northern Territory Police.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's always concerning to me when anything

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Katie, it's really harmful, particularly when you're getting us

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it truly is. Look, I hope that you're able

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Speaker 1: Strident crew doing a phenomenal job in terms of working

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Katie.

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Speaker 3: Look again, another tragic and shocking incident, another domestic violence

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Speaker 2: But again we obviously have another deceased domestic violence.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Commander, it feels like, you know, it feels like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it is quite harmful.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, there's the will feisure of our members as well

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Speaker 2: Obviously we need to see a change.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we absolutely do, absolutely need to see a change. Now,

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Speaker 3: What I can say is that the Northern Territory Police

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we just see far too many lives lost

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Speaker 3: No, Katie, I can confirm that is not the case.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it's not a very nice incident, Katie. And

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, Well, I can say from that investigation they

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Speaker 2: And some of the charges we're looking at here.

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Speaker 3: Is seven counts of trespass, two counts of aggravated burglary,

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Speaker 1: David, I know, and I don't expect you to comment,

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Speaker 1: there's been like a number of operations underway in Alice

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Speaker 1: through the well basically through Operation Ludlow and Operation Oxley.

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Speaker 1: To understand it continuing in Catherine. That's with the support

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, Cardia, And this is really goes to the

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Speaker 3: The results are in total of a three hundred and

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Speaker 2: As issued for court.

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Speaker 1: Are you finding like as these arrests are taking place

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Speaker 2: I do believe so. And there's that community centerment as well.

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Speaker 3: serious assaults. This is what we're really targeting here, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing. It does, you know,

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Speaker 1: come through that says, Hi, Katie. The male that attacked

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my understanding, they're still outstanding. They're still looking for

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Speaker 1: It is alarming because there'll be other people listening thinking, well,

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Speaker 1: Likely Rob's just called in. He wants to know of

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Speaker 3: And these are the types of people we don't want

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Speaker 2: Here probably to hide or here to reoffend.

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Speaker 1: And so do you have any idea whether they've been

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Speaker 3: My understanding is they've all that majority of haven't been

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Speaker 1: with you, Commander David Moore. I really appreciate your time

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Speaker 1: this morning. Thank you so very much for joining us

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Speaker 2: Thank you cardy in to your listeners. Appreciate you