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Speaker 1: Already and this is the Daily Off.

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Speaker 2: This is the Daily OS.

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Speaker 3: Oh, now it makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Monday,

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Speaker 2: the twentieth of January.

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Speaker 3: I'm Billy, I'm Sam. Today is the day.

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Speaker 2: That Donald Trump is set to officially take office at

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Speaker 2: the White House for the second time as US President.

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Speaker 2: So as the dawn of a new chapter of one

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Speaker 2: of the most powerful positions in the world begins, we

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Speaker 2: are here to break down what to expect in the

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Speaker 2: coming days, months.

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Speaker 3: And years.

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Speaker 2: A quick note that because of the time zones, the

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Speaker 2: inauguration will actually officially take place from four am tomorrow morning,

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Speaker 2: so set your alarms. That is Australian Eastern daylight time. Sam,

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Speaker 2: you and I will be up bright and early.

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Speaker 1: It'll remind me of the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're jumping in a little early to prepare

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Speaker 2: you for what will surely be a very big day.

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Speaker 1: The Americans certainly know how to do a ceremony, and

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Speaker 1: I think the inauguration is a perfect example of that.

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Speaker 1: And some people, though, might not know what an inauguration

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Speaker 1: is because we don't really do that in Australia. How

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Speaker 1: would you explain what's about to happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the US is a bit different to Australia here

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Speaker 2: wins that election immediately becomes the leader. But in the

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Speaker 2: US you have to wait about two and a half

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Speaker 3: Swearing in of a new president.

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Speaker 2: And basically it's this big ceremony to mark the transition

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Speaker 2: a really symbolic, peaceful transfer of power.

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Speaker 1: There's always that bit where the current president and the

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Speaker 1: peaceful that.

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Speaker 2: Transition is exactly, and usually there are also previous presidents

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Speaker 2: notably not his wife Michelle Obama, who was there for

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Speaker 2: the twenty seventeen inauguration of Trump. But there will also

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Speaker 2: be lots of other high profile attendees. We know that

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Speaker 2: billionaire tech chiefs Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, they

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Speaker 2: be big musical guests. Sam, do you know who is

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Speaker 2: performing at Trump's inauguration is it.

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Speaker 1: The Village People, Yes, because Trump loves YMCA.

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Speaker 2: He loves Ymca. That is where his viral dance move.

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Speaker 1: And do you know what's interesting about the Village People

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Speaker 1: up to his first presidency, demanding that their songs are

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Speaker 1: not played at Trump rallies. Here they are a couple

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Speaker 1: of years later performing at the.

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Speaker 2: Inauguration exactly, and I was so interested in why they

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Speaker 2: their statement and I found it a fascinating statement. They said,

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Speaker 2: we believe that music is to be performed without regard

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Speaker 2: to politics. Our song, Ymta is a global anthem that

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Speaker 2: hopefully helps bring the country together after a tumultuous and

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Speaker 2: clearly saying that they preferred Kamala Harris to be the president.

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Speaker 2: But despite that, they will still be there in unison

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Speaker 1: And do we as the Australian government, do we send

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's going to be a lot of news

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Speaker 1: Before we get there, though, give us a sense of

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Speaker 2: So he first became president after winning the twenty sixteen

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Speaker 2: remember that very divisive campaign. Now his administration once he

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Speaker 2: When Trump lost the presidency to Joe Biden in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: It's always just remarkable to go back to that first

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Speaker 1: Then we had four years of Joe Biden. Now that's

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Speaker 1: next term. Why don't we start with what the economy

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Speaker 2: So during his twenty twenty four re election campaign, Trump

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Speaker 1: Sure. And also another point there that I remember him

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Speaker 2: Sam you mentioned before that Donald Trump withdrew the US

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Speaker 2: we're going to hear a lot about the word tariffs.

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Speaker 1: And since Trump's election in November, countries all around the world,

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Speaker 2: He is, however, against abortion except in some circumstances that

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Speaker 2: no national abortion ban. Although important to note that there

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Speaker 2: Project twenty twenty five, which is a set of conservative

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Speaker 1: there nice and early. Thank you for talking us through that,

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