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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast with doctor Justin Coulson, where

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Speaker 1: Luke and Susie we're a husband and wife radio team

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Speaker 1: with three young children, and this is the podcast for

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Speaker 1: the time poor parent who just wants some answers now.

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Speaker 2: As soon as we were chatting to someone just the

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Speaker 2: other day and they said all the right words about

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Speaker 2: being a mum's great and it's wonderful, and then we

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Speaker 2: just kept talking and I went, oh so hard and

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Speaker 2: there was a few little things I've said that almost

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Speaker 2: they didn't say this, but you could always bear afraids

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Speaker 2: of I think my child has ruined my life when

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Speaker 2: it comes to family and parenting and marriage and so

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Speaker 2: all these important relationships in our home. They can be

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Speaker 2: tough work sometimes and you need to put a bit

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Speaker 2: of focus and you need to put a bit of

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Speaker 2: energy into it. And that's why our next guest is

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Speaker 2: such a great treat to have on our show.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely is doctor Justin Colson from Happy Families dot com

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Speaker 1: dot au. You obviously have learned lessons through a study,

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Speaker 1: and you've learned lessons through life, doctor Justin.

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Speaker 3: I imagine, yeah, I have I have six children, one wife

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Speaker 3: nearly Oh gosh, nearly twenty years of marriage, I still

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Speaker 3: feel like that twenty something year old who've made a

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Speaker 3: full of himself proposing to that girl that.

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Speaker 4: He thought was just amazing. And it's hard work, even

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Speaker 4: when you're with somebody who is absolutely incredible and somebody

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Speaker 4: who you completely crazy about.

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Speaker 2: So are you're punching above your weight, Justin? Is that

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Speaker 2: the message we got there? Well?

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Speaker 4: Well, perhaps, yeah, and that was part of the plan.

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Speaker 4: I always marry somebody that makes you work hard to

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Speaker 4: stay there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I suppose asking that question, what guy in

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Speaker 2: the world has ever safely I to say, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: it's fine. She's probably punching above her way.

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Speaker 1: Well, we want to talk about we want to talk

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Speaker 1: about marriage. We often talk about parenting with you, doctor Jills,

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Speaker 1: Justin Colson, but we need to focus on our marriages

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Speaker 1: as well, and these can often go by the wayside

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Speaker 1: a little bit, especially when children are in a stage

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Speaker 1: where they need a lot of our attention. And so

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Speaker 1: how can we go about make sure our marriages stay

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Speaker 4: The number one thing is time. My favorite, my favorite

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Speaker 4: saying is attention is the currency of relationships. So just

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Speaker 4: like dollars drive our economy, at Tension drives our relationships,

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Speaker 4: and if our relationships are starved of attention, then they're

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Speaker 4: up relationally bankrupt. So trick number one, A secret Number

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Speaker 4: one for having a thriving marriage is time. You've got

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Speaker 4: to have time together. Now. I know some people say, oh,

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. In fact, the more we're apart,

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Speaker 4: the happier we are together. But that's that's not normal.

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Speaker 4: That is, it does happen, but it's not normal for

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Speaker 4: relationships to really thrive. We've got to have time together.

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Speaker 4: And let me tell you, when you've got a bunch

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Speaker 4: implement hints. Number one. Number one, have a date night

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Speaker 4: every week every week. The way that you do this is,

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Speaker 4: if your children are old enough, you just get them

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Speaker 4: to beat each other up, then you hire a babysitter.

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Speaker 4: or if you're thinking I can't even afford a date,

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Speaker 4: requires a little bit of forethought. And if babysitting's a problem,

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Speaker 4: find another couple who's just like you, who wants to

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Speaker 2: It's something that we have known, and there's no great surprise.

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Speaker 2: Most of us go into knowing this is important and

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Speaker 2: all those things you said, we can go yes, yes,

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Speaker 5: But knowing you know that it's a priority, and knowing

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Speaker 5: we do it justin why do we? Why do we

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I think there's a couple of reasons. Reason

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Speaker 4: Mi kitchen rules. I'm kind of being a bit cheeky.

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Speaker 4: But we get so caught up in the unimportant. We

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Speaker 4: get completely distracted by the stuff that doesn't matter, and frankly,

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Speaker 4: I'm married to and now I don't have to keep

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Speaker 4: on working to keep this thing happening. And that's where

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Speaker 4: person who goes out in exercises for three or four months,

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Speaker 4: Now I don't have to go to the gym anymore.

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Speaker 4: way of garbage. You never stop if you want to maintain.

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Speaker 4: And it's the same with our marriages.

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Speaker 2: Susie picking up here that doctor Justin might not consider

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Speaker 2: those times we were sitting in the lound room together

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Speaker 2: Facebook messaging each other as dates time we were connecting.

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Speaker 2: We're in the same road. We're having a conversation, not

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Speaker 2: a word uttered in real life. It's amazing how it happened.

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Speaker 1: It's a Happy Families podcast with doctor Justin Colson where

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Speaker 1: lookin Susie.

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Speaker 2: Talking about focusing on marriage and the first thing that

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Speaker 2: we talked about is actually taking some date time prioritizing

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Speaker 2: getting a babysitter, having some time out, actually engaging with

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Speaker 2: each other quality time versus quantity time. Justin is there

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Speaker 2: such a debate?

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Speaker 4: You know what time is. Time Attention is the currency

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Speaker 4: of relationships. Our family spell love time. Just like my

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Speaker 4: me things and probably make a racket. It's all about time.

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Speaker 4: It's all about face to face time. When you go

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Speaker 4: to the movies on a date, I'm sorry, but that's

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Speaker 4: not quality time. You're staring at a screen, big screen,

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Speaker 4: with your phone or your iPad, but it's still a screen.

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Speaker 4: That's not a date. What we've got to do is

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Speaker 4: we've actually got to go somewhere where we look at

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Speaker 4: each other in the eyes and when we talk to

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Speaker 4: each other with our mouths, we might even hold hands,

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Speaker 4: we might even a kiss. But it's all about having

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Speaker 4: that time together. It's absolutely about time together. Oh and

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Speaker 4: look one other thing. If your relationship is not going well,

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Speaker 4: this another time because it probably requires a bit of effort.

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Speaker 4: But if your relationship is not going well. In almost

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Speaker 4: every case, you are the problem. I know you think

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Speaker 4: the other person is the problem, but it's not them,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really time to end this conversation.

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Speaker 1: Now thinks that's gold because it's so true. A simple

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Speaker 1: change of attitude in both parties can make the difference.

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Speaker 2: But you need to start with yourself.

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Speaker 4: Right, You've got to start with yourself. You might say

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Speaker 4: do is we only alienate one another further. What we

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Speaker 4: need to do instead is we need to say, gee,

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Speaker 4: I can make a contribution to the relationship. What am

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, we're got to talk about a whole bunch of

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Speaker 2: this point. Is there an equation? Is there a spreadsheet

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Speaker 4: Yes, there is. It's available on my website for two

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Speaker 4: five hundred dollars, thirty of them. Of course there's not

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Speaker 4: You set up your priorities and you focus on them

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Speaker 4: other things will arise. You know, a child might need

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Speaker 4: never met anybody who's got the balance right. Everyone that

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Speaker 4: talk about what's really going on in their lives, everyone says,

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Speaker 4: my goodness, we're out of control. We just don't seem

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Speaker 4: to be able to get the balance right. And that's

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Speaker 4: because that's not possible. So what you do is you say,

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Speaker 4: what are my values? My values are my relationship, My

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Speaker 4: values are this, My values are that? And how can

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Speaker 4: I live in accordance with my values as best as

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Speaker 4: possible under the current circumstances, under the current deadlines?

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Speaker 1: Beautiful, very I love that. I don't really believe in

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Speaker 1: balance either. I just think you've got to do what

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Speaker 4: of you, and that's not helpful either. You need to

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Speaker 4: prioritize accordingly. And sometimes you have to put the things

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Speaker 4: that matter most on the backburn of four things that

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Speaker 4: matter least. But if you're doing that consistently, that's where

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm going to I'm about to produce up

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Speaker 2: climbing and ab sailing and Susie's quote, you've got to

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Speaker 2: do what you gotta do to get done, what you've

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Speaker 2: got to get done, and whatever that is is what

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Speaker 4: I think what she's saying, Luke is the main thing

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Speaker 4: is to keep the main things.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, you're welcome.

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