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<v Speaker 1>Flex and fruits.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes to another day, another podcast. You've probably seen on TikTok,

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<v Speaker 2>all of those rating videos such as He's a seven

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<v Speaker 2>but he wears Ram Williams ten. He I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to go into it because I'm not sure if I

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<v Speaker 2>think it really is objectifying or.

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<v Speaker 3>Not, and I don't care that it is. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's where I'm at. I think that, like, it sounds

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<v Speaker 3>like your fear of whether or not you're objectifying. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not because you care, because you think that other people care.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, but I don't though, exmember, I'm not patronizing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you do. No, I don't because you do not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm just going to say yes, no green brown,

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<v Speaker 2>try and confuse you with colors so you can have

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<v Speaker 2>a poke a hole in my argument flex.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not poking holes. The mask of a clarification. Clarification

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<v Speaker 3>is your worst nightmare.

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<v Speaker 4>Son.

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<v Speaker 3>You start mumbling, you're like, then you shut down power.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, talking about the rating game. You know, last

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<v Speaker 3>week it was all fun and giggles and then naturally

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<v Speaker 3>what happens on TikTok with anything is that somebody wants

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<v Speaker 3>to critically analyze it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you started that trend, you had a lot to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're oh yeah, But I think the difference

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<v Speaker 3>between me critically analyzing stuff is I don't actually care, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't moralize these arguments. I'm like, this is just funny.

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<v Speaker 3>But people critically analyze to say you're a bad person

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<v Speaker 3>for thinking this or you're a good person for thinking that,

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<v Speaker 3>And that's when we've gone too far. It's just vibes.

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<v Speaker 3>And so this idea of like, is it bad to objectify?

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<v Speaker 3>It might be, but the trend was funny and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sticking to that, and I'm not gonna go back and

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<v Speaker 3>be like I didn't laugh or I think what's worse

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<v Speaker 3>is that when people decide what they think after Like,

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<v Speaker 3>the trend was huge for two weeks, you had two

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<v Speaker 3>whole weeks to decide whether or not you thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was offensive. Don't let one person on the internet decide

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<v Speaker 3>for you and then make you feel bad. That just

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<v Speaker 3>means you have a weak resolve and no brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Heavy heavy, that's heavy.

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<v Speaker 3>What you just said, weak resolve and no brain.

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<v Speaker 2>A non sentient being. AI's perfect form right now, Savage,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>We love to look back, throw back. I personally am

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<v Speaker 2>great annoying what year things happened.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a gift and a skill.

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<v Speaker 2>You have one of my plethora of skills, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>very good at I would say, like sensing a feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so you have a tangible hard skill.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a vibe, just vibes were you're a fan

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<v Speaker 2>of Hillary Duff growing up?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Really?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you watch? People have a lot of Yeah, people

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of close memories with things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's doing this deep dive on her on YouTube last night.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called The Twisted World of Hillary Duff and it's

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<v Speaker 2>on a channel called deep Dive.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you heard of them?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 3>This sounds like a a conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks fantastic. It's all about deep dives on like

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<v Speaker 2>ex Disney stars and all that kind of stuff. And

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<v Speaker 2>what I learned was that when Hillary Duff was sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>she was dating a Madden Joel Madden.

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<v Speaker 3>Sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess how old he was?

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty six?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Ah?

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<v Speaker 2>How did we alet Joel Madden?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say we.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have never done that. I would have never

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<v Speaker 3>let her do it. How did that happen. This is

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<v Speaker 3>like two thousand and seven era. This happens too much

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<v Speaker 3>in Hollywood, two too too much.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just wondering how it took ten years, like obviously do.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think like these young children are heaps over sexualized,

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<v Speaker 3>so like we perceive them to be a lot older

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<v Speaker 3>than they are when they are children. That were kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like, oh yeah, that makes sense, Like she wears

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<v Speaker 3>makeup and heels, she must be an adult because I

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<v Speaker 3>don't recall in my head, I can never recall Hillary

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<v Speaker 3>Duff being sixteen. She was always twenty five and.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, so true? Could be that I think I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>used to now, like it's so easy to forget the past.

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<v Speaker 2>That could never happen now. Surely No, in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 3>I also think media was really different than if we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking she was sixteen, was like twenty years ago. That's

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<v Speaker 3>tabloid culture. You're physically opening up Women's Day New idea,

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<v Speaker 3>getting the hot goss. And if she's not, if she

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't their demographic, that might not have been spoken about.

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<v Speaker 3>It might not have been hot news. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>Angelina and Joel Lee was popular then, and Sarah Jessica Parker,

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe it wasn't highlighted because they weren't mainstream in

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<v Speaker 3>the way they are now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, facts, Well, apparently Nicole Richie stole Joel Madden off

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<v Speaker 2>Hillary Duff nice, and apparently Paris Hilton sabotaged Haley Duff's

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<v Speaker 2>pop career. How it was a war, an eagirl war.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you not remember that Hillary Duff and Hailey Duff

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<v Speaker 2>versus Paris Hilton. After Hillary Duff dated Aaron Carter, she

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<v Speaker 2>dumped him and went for Joel Madden for her like

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<v Speaker 2>scene boy face. They dated four years from the time

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<v Speaker 2>she was sixteen to twenty, but then he started dating

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<v Speaker 2>Nicole Richie a month later. And then Hillary threw shade

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<v Speaker 2>via her album Dignity, which is just her sing about

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<v Speaker 2>Paris Nicole and Lindsay. This is what she wrote in

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<v Speaker 2>her song Where's your Dignity? I think you lost it

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<v Speaker 2>in the Hollywood Hills. Can't buy respect. You can pick

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<v Speaker 2>up that bill always, mister Wright. But then you have

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<v Speaker 2>a fight. Run into your friend's ex. He's happy to

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<v Speaker 2>be your next Tomorrow's paper coming out, So kiss him fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Watch the cameras flash Hillary a poet.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to know how that sounded in a

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<v Speaker 3>song that felt like a hiku. We're really giving all

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<v Speaker 3>ways splitting the bill?

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<v Speaker 2>What lamb poetry?

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<v Speaker 3>Hillary doves a little Bari are always happy to date

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<v Speaker 3>your friends. What is the thing with Haley and Paris?

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<v Speaker 3>You can't start these things and then give me a doll?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, okay, Hailey and Paris Hilton. Somehow she was

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<v Speaker 2>in it. Basically, Paris and Haley both recorded the same song.

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<v Speaker 2>Screwed the pair release that they both recorded the song,

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<v Speaker 2>but before it could be sorted out, Paris's version of

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<v Speaker 2>mysteriously leaked It's much be Haley's debut single. Pretty incredible stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 2>This is Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you or have you not heard Drake's new album? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you a fan?

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<v Speaker 2>A Drake fan?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, No, I'm a big fan. It just gives

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<v Speaker 2>me to grassy. I can't get past it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I really knew him in that in

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<v Speaker 3>that vein, but in terms of the music, I would

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<v Speaker 3>say that I am a Drake fan. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>that I was one until I recognize that people don't

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<v Speaker 3>just listen to his albums back to back to back

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<v Speaker 3>to back to back, And I think I do get

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<v Speaker 3>a bit defensive when people don't like the music, because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what's there not to like? He just makes

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<v Speaker 3>hits all the time for every genre, every single one,

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<v Speaker 3>every single song colonizes, steals from done.

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<v Speaker 2>It all sounds the same, and this is I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think that's what I like about it, though, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>I understand the value of reinventing the wheel and having

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<v Speaker 3>every new album be a new era. So it's really

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<v Speaker 3>exciting for listeners. But I also think with how quickly

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<v Speaker 3>trends move in every industry, music especially, it's really frustrating

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<v Speaker 3>when you're like, I just want more of the same,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I wish that album was twice as long. Give

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<v Speaker 3>me the songs you didn't publish before. I want those.

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<v Speaker 3>But this one, in particular, came out of nowhere, a

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<v Speaker 3>surprise drop, which doesn't happen a lot in music. There

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<v Speaker 3>was a portion of time where people like, we're releasing

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<v Speaker 3>one at midnight, but suddenly one fateful night, everyone's like,

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<v Speaker 3>new Drake coming out midnight. We weren't prepared. We weren't prepared.

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<v Speaker 3>Why did he do that? Rumor has it he did

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<v Speaker 3>not want to compete with the Storm of Beyond, say,

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<v Speaker 3>because Beyonce just started her album promo. She did her

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<v Speaker 3>Vogue front cover and like eight page spread, which was

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<v Speaker 3>just phenomenal. If he did not drop before her album,

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<v Speaker 3>he would have got lost in the source. And he's

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<v Speaker 3>already done that once before with Kanye. It's just not

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<v Speaker 3>and J Cole it's not worth it anyway. The album's

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<v Speaker 3>called Honestly never Mind genius like amazing, why are you excited?

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<v Speaker 3>I just love it. Album's called Honestly never Mind. And

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<v Speaker 3>the reception people are saying it's mid TikTok. Mostly they're

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<v Speaker 3>saying it's mid It's not good. They don't understand it,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't like it, it's rushed, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to like confirm nor deny because I

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<v Speaker 3>have this thing about new music as someone who used

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<v Speaker 3>to DJ and semi retired now but after eight years

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<v Speaker 3>you can do that is that you need to sit

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<v Speaker 3>with an album, especially if it's an artist you like.

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<v Speaker 3>You need to sit with an album for five listens,

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<v Speaker 3>back to front, around and around.

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<v Speaker 2>And around in the way they intended.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really mind. I don't really care about that,

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<v Speaker 3>but you need to have listened to the whole every

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<v Speaker 3>song five times because the first time I know that

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<v Speaker 3>we rush to form opinions really quickly. You want to

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<v Speaker 3>pick your favorites, top three, show away, it's not worth

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<v Speaker 3>it because you don't know how they sonically sit. And

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<v Speaker 3>I also think that a lot of music requires context,

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<v Speaker 3>like you need to be listening to it as you're

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<v Speaker 3>getting ready, as you're going out, as you're going for

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<v Speaker 3>a walk, as you're winding down, which means you need time.

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<v Speaker 3>Five listens could take you three weeks. You know it

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<v Speaker 3>could take you three months, but you need to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Otherwise you go on the internet and you publish half

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<v Speaker 3>baked thoughts that really do impact the results of people's

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<v Speaker 3>listening negatively. When I saw Jack Carlow's album Got two

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<v Speaker 3>point nine and pitchforkcaus, I don't worry about it, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't need to listen. I'm all good, and it

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<v Speaker 3>could be I could have liked it, but I didn't listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel very sensitive for musicians because I think they're

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<v Speaker 3>so unappreciated for what they can create. There are only

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<v Speaker 3>so many bloody instruments you can use, so many cores,

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<v Speaker 3>you can use, so many variations and formations of Li

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<v Speaker 3>and whatever that it is so hard to make a song,

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<v Speaker 3>let alone a hit, let alone having a career of

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<v Speaker 3>hits where all you've done is have back to back

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<v Speaker 3>number ones. It's hard to outdo yourself when you've already

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<v Speaker 3>done the best, incredible, you know what I'm saying. It's like,

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<v Speaker 3>be easy on these artists still roast, but like, let's

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<v Speaker 3>let it simmer for.

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<v Speaker 2>A bit, simmer, then turn the doll right up, crank

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<v Speaker 2>it like make it hurt frogs in the boiling.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Flex and Frooms on kDa.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of days ago, I told you about this

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<v Speaker 3>trend on TikTok. It's called He's a ten, but she's

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<v Speaker 3>a ten. But if you're familiar with the app, you

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<v Speaker 3>might have seen it. If not, it's basically listing out

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<v Speaker 3>a quality in a person that will give them more

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<v Speaker 3>points in the rating system or dock points. So for example,

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<v Speaker 3>he is a two, but he loves Drake.

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<v Speaker 2>She is a ten, but she has a twilight chatto.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a queen, right though, that's a queen anyway. So

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<v Speaker 3>the best thing about this trend is what I think

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<v Speaker 3>is a lack of nuance, is the fact that if

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what your standards are, then I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know why you've docked points as much as you have

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<v Speaker 3>or why you've raised points. For example, if I said

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<v Speaker 3>he is a ten, but he's an atheist, and then

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<v Speaker 3>I said he's a seven, you'd be like why, And

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I want to get into. We won't today,

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<v Speaker 3>but whatever. So there was this genius guy on TikTok

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<v Speaker 3>who took all the data from the most popular versions

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<v Speaker 3>of that trend and put it into a spreadsheet to

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<v Speaker 3>teach us how we can increase our perceived attractiveness based

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<v Speaker 3>on these really silly attributes. Do you want to listen?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I've got everything here in a Google sheet positives, negatives,

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<v Speaker 6>and neutrals, also a chart. So let me tell you

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<v Speaker 6>what I've learned. If you get a job as a lifeguard,

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<v Speaker 6>put on some cologne and walk on the outside of

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<v Speaker 6>the sidewalk, you could start out at a half point,

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<v Speaker 6>be a literal muppet and move up to Chris Hemsworth.

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<v Speaker 6>Or if you're an average guy, you can just buy

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<v Speaker 6>a boat, grow a mustache, and clap at the end

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<v Speaker 6>of top gun and you're up there with Timothy schueblagoot.

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<v Speaker 6>Now for the bad news, there are things you need

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<v Speaker 6>to work on. Definitely believe in birds. The only height

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<v Speaker 6>we can be really sure about is six ' four

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<v Speaker 6>and that gets you nothing. For all my croc dudes

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<v Speaker 6>out there, you're either at a minus half or minus three,

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<v Speaker 6>So just make sure they're pretty cool. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 6>more ways to go wrong than to go right, So

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<v Speaker 6>I guess just like, don't be lame and growma stash.

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<v Speaker 3>So basically, what he's saying is that number one, all

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<v Speaker 3>the things that people claimed were attractive or made them

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<v Speaker 3>more attractive are just as silly as the things that

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<v Speaker 3>make people unattractive. For example, if somebody is quote unquote

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<v Speaker 3>nice to servers, that can take them from a five

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<v Speaker 3>to a seven. If somebody smells good, that can take

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<v Speaker 3>them from a two to a five. If somebody is

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<v Speaker 3>a lifeguard, that can take them up four point five rankings.

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<v Speaker 3>You can go from a five to a nine and

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<v Speaker 3>a half because you're a lifeguard.

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<v Speaker 2>What to pay that?

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<v Speaker 3>And if you have like a mustache, then you can

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<v Speaker 3>go up one point. But this is for the bad things.

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<v Speaker 3>Long nose hair can take you down half a point.

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<v Speaker 3>He thinks he's a good cook. When he's mediocre, can

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<v Speaker 3>take you down one for that's a big one. If

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<v Speaker 3>he drives slow down two points. If he's skinny, down

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<v Speaker 3>two points, if he has long fingernails, down three points.

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<v Speaker 3>If he loves crocs, down three points. If he's a

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<v Speaker 3>mama's boy. Neutral, if he's six, if he's six foot four, neutral,

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<v Speaker 3>So either way, And I guess people weren't intending to

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<v Speaker 3>take this trend seriously. It's meant to be facetious, it's

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<v Speaker 3>meant to be silly. But I think that is the point.

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<v Speaker 3>That is also the issue, like all of these things

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<v Speaker 3>that we think aren't actually impacting our ability to see

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<v Speaker 3>people as like vible partners are. Because if the first

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<v Speaker 3>thing that comes to mind is like he's a ten

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<v Speaker 3>but he cries during rom Coms seven, that's the top

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<v Speaker 3>of your brain. That's what you conjured up off off

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<v Speaker 3>the cuss, not like she's a seven but she hates children,

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<v Speaker 3>or he's a ten but he's a misogynist, or he.

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<v Speaker 2>Is they're less fun though, aren't they?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>But the thing is, it's not even about fun or

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<v Speaker 3>not fun, because this trend didn't start out fun. This

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<v Speaker 3>trend started out with someone making a pros and cons

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<v Speaker 3>lest about someone that were dating who was like really terrible,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's kind of like a play on, like you'll

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<v Speaker 3>let someone do the worst things and still not dump them,

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<v Speaker 3>Like these am I the assholes we read? He's amazing,

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<v Speaker 3>but like he's really mean to me and he hates

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<v Speaker 3>with my friend and he thinks all my art is

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<v Speaker 3>really ugly. But like he's a really nice guy. No, no,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a two. He's a two anyway, And the rating

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<v Speaker 3>system is floored because literally everyone be like, I'm like

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<v Speaker 3>a six or seven? Well, how can we all be sick?

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<v Speaker 2>Seven?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, simply doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 5>That be real.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone is beautiful, remember fix, I don't agree.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you really think that?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>Last weekend, my best friend was over for dinner. I

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<v Speaker 2>made past the Ela vodka. Of course, yem me a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of garlic bread on the side.

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<v Speaker 3>Homemade garlic bread or still bought, yeah, homemade. Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>She's in a new relationship. She's been with her boyfriend

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<v Speaker 2>for about three months.

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<v Speaker 3>Official for three months. They've known each other.

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<v Speaker 2>For three months, but like it's proper. They're very comfortable together.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was telling me a story about how comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>they've become.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I didn't want to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>It, and she's told me a bit of a dilemma.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna call her hello, honey. So we're just

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<v Speaker 2>on the radio. Was just telling Flexi about how you

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<v Speaker 2>and your partner have.

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<v Speaker 3>She's flexy.

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<v Speaker 2>You can go like Flexi too, how you two have

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<v Speaker 2>been dating for like three months and how comfortable you are.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess I just wanted you to tell us

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<v Speaker 2>the story of how that comfort came to be, what happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and what is now the result.

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<v Speaker 5>So usually I'm actually.

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<v Speaker 4>Usually weird about bodily fluids with friends. I'm very like

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<v Speaker 4>private in this kind of thing, and then when I

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<v Speaker 4>get into a relationship, it's like all hold bar, all

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<v Speaker 4>holds bar except for farting. So we didn't really have

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<v Speaker 4>the conversation. It was just he would fight a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I never would.

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<v Speaker 4>I would have to go into the other room to

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<v Speaker 4>fart or which makes you.

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<v Speaker 3>Sound like a child. I support that. I'm down with that, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Or go into someone else's room far or far when

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<v Speaker 4>he was asleep, or like farm in the shower.

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<v Speaker 5>Just that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we were so transparent and open about every

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<v Speaker 4>other bodily fluid, like we you know, spiting each other's mouths,

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<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah. So when it came to fighting, he was,

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<v Speaker 4>I just just do it like it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>So eventually I started doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>I've done it like, I did it like two times.

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<v Speaker 4>And then on Friday, I said, I came home a

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<v Speaker 4>bit drunk. He had stayed home because he wasn't feeling

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<v Speaker 4>very well, and I was like, I really have to fight.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, okay, whatever. I fired, and he.

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<v Speaker 5>Ran to the bathroom and threw up, wait, you are

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<v Speaker 5>all want.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, there's nothing good comes from it.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, and usually I do more embarrassed, but like

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<v Speaker 5>it's actually it was the most dramatic homent you've ever

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<v Speaker 5>had in your life. He lives by himself, and so

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<v Speaker 5>he ran to his bathroom and it was like it

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<v Speaker 5>was like he just drank a lead of water and had.

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<v Speaker 2>Come out of the week, like putting a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a scream behind.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I like korin like a like a kettle into

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<v Speaker 4>the toilet bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>So how did it end up?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you made an allegiance not to fight in front

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<v Speaker 2>of each other. Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm proud of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm now.

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<v Speaker 4>It's more of like a one up in each other moment.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I did want to do.

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<v Speaker 4>It, because like I've just gone vegetarian, I'm making my

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<v Speaker 4>way through all the legumes and works for me and califlywering.

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<v Speaker 2>It this beautiful humoric on the top it's doing. Now

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<v Speaker 2>he's done that.

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<v Speaker 5>What have I got to be embarrassed about?

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<v Speaker 2>Now to the wall, Well, thank you sent him my

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<v Speaker 2>love and I hope did he gets well soon?

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<v Speaker 4>I will.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been humiliating in an equal measure.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for sharing. Bye bye. I love her.

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<v Speaker 2>Fart to vomit pipeline shorter than you might imagine.

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<v Speaker 3>I make sure people aren't comfortable to fight in front

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<v Speaker 3>of me, so we'll never have to do that exchange.

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<v Speaker 3>My issue is not opening the floodgates and being comfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the fact that once comfort is established, it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>a lawless place. There's no boundaries once we've gone full fart,

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, don't do it around me. Yes, tighten

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<v Speaker 3>up those in the boundary early, close that sphincter.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, and frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>I found this TikTok. The caption is Toddler's kind of sleigh.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from a guy called Mike's Dot Mike.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, we love Mike's Mike.

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<v Speaker 7>I've just come to the realization that Toddler's slayed three concepts.

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<v Speaker 7>First one is the iPad child esthetic. Like, as a

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<v Speaker 7>recent iPad purchaser myself, Yeah, I'm gonna whip out my iPad,

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<v Speaker 7>watch a little video and eat a little snack together. Like,

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<v Speaker 7>I get the appeal. That were kind of right for

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<v Speaker 7>that second thing that brings me on at the second

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<v Speaker 7>thing talking about food, A little puree, a little snack

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<v Speaker 7>to go at any time. That's a little bit fantastic.

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<v Speaker 7>I might just chuck a cheese stick in the tote

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<v Speaker 7>on my way out to the market. You can't stop me.

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<v Speaker 7>Third thing, they're continuously asking why all this is a

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<v Speaker 7>thought exercise? Right? What am I doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm scrolling on Instagram? Why because I have time and

0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:20.000
<v Speaker 7>it's free? Why why it's Instagram free? Someone has to

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<v Speaker 7>be paying for it? Oh wait, Instagram selling my data.

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<v Speaker 3>Genius genies. Toddlers are the original critical thinkers, and they

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<v Speaker 3>also understand how to maintain a lust for life a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a snack bit of entertainment, ask questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Your bomb is real soft when you're young, it's soft.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I touch my bum and I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>know if anyone else gets oh the.

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<v Speaker 3>First Yeah, it needs a demoplane. What bum hair?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, not bum hair. So you got my

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<v Speaker 2>bum cheeks? And then I have quite a small flat

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<v Speaker 2>ass and there's like a little flat ridge.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyone else got that.

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<v Speaker 2>Which bum cheeks? And there's like a little flat ridge

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom, at the top, at the bottom. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not soft, whereas I'm sure there was a time

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<v Speaker 2>in my life where that little ridge.

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<v Speaker 3>I am trying my hardest pitch of the ridge.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot This is flex and froomes on Kita.

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<v Speaker 3>We've been talking about this TikTok trend called he's a

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<v Speaker 3>ten butt or she's a ten. But basically, you list

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<v Speaker 3>out an attribute or a characteristic that someone could have

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<v Speaker 3>that could either increase their level of attractiveness or decrease

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<v Speaker 3>it to you, to you, it's all personal. So she's

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<v Speaker 3>a seven, but she wears crucs to work eleven thirteen.

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<v Speaker 3>She is a ten but she always nags you or one, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot deal with a with a constant.

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<v Speaker 3>Naggerna, and you've got to balance it out, like you've

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<v Speaker 3>got to be as sweet as you are salty. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 3>it's just mean. But as with all good things, it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to a point where it stopped being funny and

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<v Speaker 3>then people start doing critical analysis. I think something could

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<v Speaker 3>just be left alone.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's always a point, and there's always a point,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's TikTok that has made us like this.

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<v Speaker 3>You think, yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree. But for

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<v Speaker 3>this trend in particular, the issue is people are saying

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<v Speaker 3>that is this encouraging objectification in the wrong way, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>aren't we passed this? Can't we see people for more

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<v Speaker 3>than their you know, arbitrary physical attributes. Should we really

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<v Speaker 3>be viewing people as less than for things that don't

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<v Speaker 3>actually matter in the grand scheme of things? Did I say?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course? Okay, if you're going to attach yourself to

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<v Speaker 3>someone for the rest of your life, you can be picking. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you can think the things you want to think. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like having this overwhelming, overarching let's be neutral about

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<v Speaker 3>all things because everybody is amazing is not helpful for

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<v Speaker 3>the world we're living in. It really isn't. If someone

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<v Speaker 3>says she's a ten but she doesn't have a job,

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<v Speaker 3>and you say she's a five, let that be that

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<v Speaker 3>person's reality before we're like no, like it's okay to

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<v Speaker 3>be unemployed and blah blah. Let's not paint everything with

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<v Speaker 3>the same brushstroke if we don't have to. Right, But

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<v Speaker 3>people are saying the issue with this trend in particular

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<v Speaker 3>is that not everybody is smart enough to see that

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<v Speaker 3>it is a funny trend.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody might see that and say I am now perceived

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<v Speaker 3>to be less attractive because of something silly or serious

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever it might be. But that we are effectively

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<v Speaker 3>traumatizing group of people or making them more insecure about

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<v Speaker 3>things they didn't need to feel bad about to begin with,

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't like it when people say, oh, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's people who don't get it, Like there's people that

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<v Speaker 2>going to take this literally, shut up, Oh, don't be

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<v Speaker 2>so condescending. People come on the internet and pick things

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<v Speaker 2>apart saying some people aren't going to get this. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to go over their head, Like, how dare you

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<v Speaker 2>be so condescending A to me? Say it's me this

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<v Speaker 2>scenario nic, but b to the people that are consuming it,

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<v Speaker 2>that are the audience, how patronizing. I've never understood that.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel that too.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you think that your level of comprehension, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>is higher than the plethora of other supporters who would

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<v Speaker 2>never have a word to say?

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<v Speaker 3>Like one hundred percent? I love when through me gets

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<v Speaker 3>fired up. Get them, let them know they're wrong. The

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<v Speaker 3>point you made about people feeling as though every kind

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<v Speaker 3>of joke or facetious comment needs to be over explained

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<v Speaker 3>or disclaimed because you're inevertently offending someone is really annoying

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<v Speaker 3>as well, because aside from being patronizing condescending, it's also

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<v Speaker 3>infantilizing audiences. Every time I talk about something that is

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<v Speaker 3>considered like smart or deep or something or that, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not explaining every single bit before somebody gets it. People

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<v Speaker 3>will be like, you know, there are children here on

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<v Speaker 3>your audience, don't talk about that. I'm like, I've seen

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<v Speaker 3>my analytics, babe. The predominant audience here is twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>and up. If you're a dummy, just say that, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>believe me out for this trend in particular, you know

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<v Speaker 3>how I said a couple I don't know it's months

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<v Speaker 3>ago on Instagram, but I was, like, some people think

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<v Speaker 3>feminism is believing that women can't be ugly, And that

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<v Speaker 3>is my issue with where these discussions end up going.

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<v Speaker 3>You take a trend that is meant to be just

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<v Speaker 3>so brain dead, and you apply all this extra meaning

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<v Speaker 3>to it to give it meaning that wasn't there to

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<v Speaker 3>begin with. What this trend is showing is the reality

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<v Speaker 3>of what dating is.

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<v Speaker 4>Like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's these silly things that turn someone from eligible to ineligible.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Because for example, one of them is but he

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<v Speaker 2>smells bad when you actually dig deeper. That is more

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<v Speaker 2>than just a silly thing, Like it suggests that they

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<v Speaker 2>have poor hihicheckingtos, is not it? The man has funy

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<v Speaker 2>and smelling little webbed toes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's giving two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think the whole thing of it, if you

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<v Speaker 2>are to analyze it, is that it's indicative of bigger

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<v Speaker 2>things that people don't like about others. It's basically this

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<v Speaker 2>is just like reverse red flags. Yeah, and like dating

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<v Speaker 2>is superficial.

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<v Speaker 3>If people dated more aspirationally, right, they really thought about

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<v Speaker 3>their morals and their values or whatever that would have

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<v Speaker 3>come up in the trent. But people said he has

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<v Speaker 3>long fingernails, she cries when she's mad. He double texts,

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<v Speaker 3>she doesn't have close friends. Whatever this is. These are

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<v Speaker 3>things that are important to people, more important than the

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<v Speaker 3>things that we feel are the right things to be

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<v Speaker 3>mindful of. Like nobody said he's a ten but he's

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<v Speaker 3>conservative because they weren't thinking about that. It wasn't the priority.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of that is that, because it's an imaginary game,

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<v Speaker 2>you're just popping up and thinking of someone in the

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<v Speaker 2>top of your head. Whereas if you were actually dating

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<v Speaker 2>someone that did have long fingernails, of course you can

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<v Speaker 2>look past it. You're not gonna take points off me.

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<v Speaker 3>You look at me in the eye and say you

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<v Speaker 3>won't do it. You won't do it. I would? You would?

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