Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Speaker 1: Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, Sky Wheatley
Speaker 1: jets into Turkey for controversial procedure, the breakup contract making
Speaker 1: headlines and are Molly May and Tommy Fury getting back together?
Speaker 1: But first, a tiny doll is having a choke hold
Speaker 1: over gen Zettters. It's called a sunny Angel and they
Speaker 1: are all over my TikTok feed if they're bloody ugly.
Speaker 1: They remind me a little bit of the cabbage Patch
Speaker 1: doll craze, except you don't actually know which doll you're
Speaker 1: going to get until you open the packet. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: called a blind unboxing amy and I think that is
Speaker 1: part of the appeal because there are over six hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty of these dolls to collect. And I think
Speaker 1: what really started the craze is Bella had did because
Speaker 1: she posted a video to her Instagram and it showed
Speaker 1: that she had a whole wall of these collects dolls. Look,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be judgmental because I remember about
Speaker 1: seven years ago when they had those lego AFL players
Speaker 1: and you didn't know which one year you were going
Speaker 1: to get. For some reason, I got hooked on these things,
Speaker 1: so I can see why people are going so crazy
Speaker 1: about them. I think it's definitely a younger audience who
Speaker 1: are collecting these. I can't see anyone in their thirties
Speaker 1: wanting to collect them. Maybe for their kids, but they're
Speaker 1: they retail for eighteen ninety five, so that's not a
Speaker 1: regular doll, but if you're after a limited edition series
Speaker 1: that's twenty four to ninety five. Now. They are kind
Speaker 1: of clever though, because they're releasing all these different series
Speaker 1: of the dolls, and within them there's two secret dolls
Speaker 1: in each batch, which are apparently worth more money. They
Speaker 1: must be making an absolute fortune. I even saw Victoria
Speaker 1: Beckham had one, because they make these special plastic ones
Speaker 1: that you put on your phone. The funniest thing about
Speaker 1: these dolls is their nude, So the only thing that
Speaker 1: really differentiates them is that they'll have a different hat on.
Speaker 1: It's almost like jen Zetas are trying to cling onto
Speaker 1: their childhood by buying into all this stuff. And me
Speaker 1: think of the jelly Cat craze as well. There are
Speaker 1: so many twenty five year old YouTubers who I follow,
Speaker 1: and they will have bookshelves which are decorated with these
Speaker 1: Sunny Angels and then also their jelly cats, which I
Speaker 1: personally couldn't think of anything worse in my house. I'm
Speaker 1: actually all for it because I'm a bit of a
Speaker 1: big kid at heart. I collect penguins, and I actually
Speaker 1: have a large penguin in my office, so I am
Speaker 1: not judging. One thing that is pretty cute about this
Speaker 1: is that there are Sunny Angel Facebook groups. So there's
Speaker 1: one that has over six thousand followers and it's a
Speaker 1: bit of a buy and swap marketplace. But also people
Speaker 1: are finding friends on there. They're sharing about creating different
Speaker 1: outfits for their Sunny Angels, so it seems pretty positive. Well,
Speaker 1: twenty something men society lets them trade football cards and
Speaker 1: fucking play video games. This is like the female version. Alrighty,
Speaker 1: So this is our first full day. So here's us
Speaker 1: driving through Turkey. Skywheetlee has begun to documenting her trip
Speaker 1: to Turkey to undergo a controversial fox I lift and
Speaker 1: potentially liposuction. Now. Back in July, we reported that the
Speaker 1: recent I'm a Celeb winner joked that she was surgery
Speaker 1: obsessed and knew she would be judged for her decision
Speaker 1: that this procedure is gaining a lot of traction on
Speaker 1: TikTok with arm and shaped eyes and upturned eyes apparently
Speaker 1: being all the rage. Yeah, I mean again, we're mentioning
Speaker 1: Bellaha did because she has been appointed as the poster
Speaker 1: girl for this trend, with a lot of red carpet
Speaker 1: photos of her all over Cosmetic Surgeon's website. Now. Over
Speaker 1: the weekend, Sky jetted into Turkey for her procedure, and
Speaker 1: she shared some photos from the airport and a scenic
Speaker 1: shot of Turkey from outside her aeroplane window. Now, she
Speaker 1: was picked up by a very flash limousine which had
Speaker 1: been organized by the clinic, and she shared a photo
Speaker 1: of herself stretched out on the back seat. That's always
Speaker 1: a bit of a warning sign, isn't it when they
Speaker 1: send a really fancy car, But you're thinking that where
Speaker 1: all of my money's Yeah, something kind of tacky about it.
Speaker 1: It's clear that this is a strategy of the clinics
Speaker 1: to make their patients feel really special, almost like they're
Speaker 1: a celebrity who's arrived at the airport to be picked
Speaker 1: up and embark on this very luxurious experience, because when
Speaker 1: it's nothing but luxurious, is it being operational? It all
Speaker 1: just seems to be smoke and mirrors, because the reason
Speaker 1: that people travel to Turkey is because the price of
Speaker 1: cosmetic procedures are a lot cheaper over there. But if
Speaker 1: it was me, I'd be thinking, well, is this what
Speaker 1: all of my money has gone into? Because Sky has
Speaker 1: also been put up at a five star hotel in
Speaker 1: the heart of the city there, I want to point
Speaker 1: out that this isn't because she's an influencer. This is
Speaker 1: what any patient gets now. Her room was filled with chandeliers,
Speaker 1: It looked very lux and it's quite interesting because her baby,
Speaker 1: daddy Locky and the kids aren't joining Sky in Turkey,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that this is often sold as a
Speaker 1: bit of a holiday, because even though people are undergoing
Speaker 1: these intense procedures, they're like on the website a lot
Speaker 1: of these clinics they say, oh, you can still check
Speaker 1: out the sites and have a great time. Well, can
Speaker 1: you imagine being all bandaged up and trying to wrangle
Speaker 1: two children around Turkey. Well, apparently, on the streets of
Speaker 1: Turkey it is very normal to see Westerners with bandages on.
Speaker 1: I recently saw a TikTok of a woman boarding a
Speaker 1: plane in Turkey and there were about ten men in
Speaker 1: front of her who were all baled, who had recently
Speaker 1: undergone a hair transplant, because I had little holes all
Speaker 1: in their head and she's like, is this normal? Like
Speaker 1: what is going on? Well? Sky has been taking her
Speaker 1: followers along for the journey, and she showed herself arriving
Speaker 1: at the hospital for her blood test and X rays,
Speaker 1: and her driver also dropped off her new friend who
Speaker 1: was also getting veneers. Then she was off to meet
Speaker 1: doctor vas Vis Silik for the first time. And this
Speaker 1: is the doctor who will be performing the fox I lived.
Speaker 1: His clinic was next level. It had marble floors and
Speaker 1: it was decorated with gold statues. There's a bit of
Speaker 1: a theme going on, isn't there with this elegance or
Speaker 1: there was even a designated photoshoot area, so professional light
Speaker 1: setup and a black backdrop, and the doctor appeared to
Speaker 1: be taking the photos. So these were before and after photos,
Speaker 1: which shows you how important social media is for this clinic.
Speaker 1: It's obviously generating so many more leads for there. It
Speaker 1: seems like a very slick operation that they have running there. Now.
Speaker 1: I had a look at doctor faz Fee's website and
Speaker 1: it had his bio up and this is where the
Speaker 1: red flags started to fly because it was a very
Speaker 1: short bio. So it said that he had been working
Speaker 1: as a doctor in a range of state hospitals for
Speaker 1: three years and eight months. It was very specific. It
Speaker 1: said he spent one and a half years at one hospital,
Speaker 1: one and a half at another, and then eight months
Speaker 1: at another hospital. Did it mention his photography skills, Well, no,
Speaker 1: it didn't. It said that he said where he graduated,
Speaker 1: but it didn't say the year, and it also didn't
Speaker 1: say how long he's been running his own clinic for.
Speaker 1: So it was all a bit odd. It lacked a
Speaker 1: lot of detail. But what he lacks an experience, he
Speaker 1: clearly makes up for with Instagram followers because he has
Speaker 1: sixty seven point five thousand followers and you can tell
Speaker 1: this most likely legitimizes him for a lot of people,
Speaker 1: which is kind of scary. Yeah, he and his team
Speaker 1: are very savvy on social media. They filmed a reel
Speaker 1: of Sky coming in for her first consult and in
Speaker 1: the caption, the doctor wrote, exciting day at the clinic. Today,
Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of meeting with the wonderful Sky Wheatley,
Speaker 1: who traveled all the way from Australia to visit us.
Speaker 1: We had an engaging consultation regarding her upcoming browlift surgery.
Speaker 1: It was great to explore her goals and answer all
Speaker 1: her questions to ensure she's confident and prepared for the
Speaker 1: journey ahead. Here's to new beginnings and beautiful transformations now.
Speaker 1: In the video, Sky greeted doctor faz Fee with a hug.
Speaker 1: They looked like they'd known each other for years, but
Speaker 1: this is the first time that they have met, and
Speaker 1: he gave her a fluffy Koala with an Ossie flag
Speaker 1: to make her feel at home. And then it was
Speaker 1: time for Sky to head in for her before and
Speaker 1: after photos, and in the you can see the doctor
Speaker 1: examining a close up shot of Sky's nose and she's
Speaker 1: asking for changes to be made to her nose job
Speaker 1: and that was once she got a few years ago.
Speaker 1: She did confirm in the comment section though, that the
Speaker 1: doctor had told her that her nose is fine and
Speaker 1: she doesn't need more work on it. That there was
Speaker 1: a bit of a green flag for him because he
Speaker 1: could have said, actually, we'll do that as well. There
Speaker 1: were a lot of people in the comment section who
Speaker 1: seemed quite disturbed by Sky traveling to Turkey. One person wrote, Sky,
Speaker 1: do not go ahead with this procedure. You are so
Speaker 1: incredibly beautiful as you are. Please stop chasing perfection. You'll
Speaker 1: never be happy. You were looking for yourself in all
Speaker 1: the wrong places and sending the wrong message to other women.
Speaker 1: Your heart is beautiful, therefore you are beautiful. Sending you
Speaker 1: love and strength. I tend to agree with that comment.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go too much into it because
Speaker 1: I know that it is ultimately Sky's decision what she
Speaker 1: does to her body. But I find it so disturbing
Speaker 1: because she's only thirty. She looks so young. She's a
Speaker 1: stunning woman. I recently saw this interview with Sky on
Speaker 1: the carpet at the Logis, and she was talking about
Speaker 1: all the procedures she had done, and she was saying
Speaker 1: that she likes to be really open and honest with
Speaker 1: her audience about her cosmetic procedures, or she likes to
Speaker 1: be transparent because she doesn't want young girls to look
Speaker 1: at her and think, oh, she just naturally looks like that.
Speaker 1: She hasn't had any work done to get that, and
Speaker 1: why don't I look like that? It really is a
Speaker 1: catch twenty two because it is good that Sky's being transparent,
Speaker 1: but some of her videos could also be seen as
Speaker 1: if they're promoting the surgeries and encouraging young girls to
Speaker 1: also seek out this type of surgery. Now, this real
Speaker 1: performed really well. It has had over one hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty eight thousand views, and it led me to go
Speaker 1: and have a look at the other types of content
Speaker 1: that doctor Fazfi was sharing, and his instagram is full
Speaker 1: of Westerners who come to him for either breast augmentations, liposuction,
Speaker 1: knows jobs, body contouring, or fox I Lifts. I had
Speaker 1: a look at the website and the clinic goes into
Speaker 1: a lot of detail about the fox ilift procedure. So
Speaker 1: it begins by saying beauty is an important concept that
Speaker 1: people have considered important from the earliest times to present days,
Speaker 1: with eye beauty being the most important deep it continues
Speaker 1: saying having attractive eyes is an indispensable criterion of being
Speaker 1: a beautiful woman or a handsome man. This description already
Speaker 1: makes me feel uncomfortable because it is clear that they
Speaker 1: are playing on vanity here. This would never be on
Speaker 1: an Australian plastic surgeon's website because if I went to
Speaker 1: the website and I wanted to find out about the
Speaker 1: Fox I lift. I want to see medically what it's about.
Speaker 1: I want to outline in a professional manner, not telling me, oh,
Speaker 1: you're going to be so much more beautiful if you
Speaker 1: have this under your eyes. Yeah, well, they're obviously going
Speaker 1: for a certain market. I mean. The website went on
Speaker 1: to say that this is a minimally invasive surgery and
Speaker 1: will result in the eyes looking bigger and more slanted
Speaker 1: to make the face look younger. It also noted that
Speaker 1: the rise and popularity of the surgery was due to
Speaker 1: Bellahad did, which is interesting in itself, even mentioning her
Speaker 1: Yeah well it almost is saying, hey, this is a
Speaker 1: bit of a craze created by TikTok. It also outlined
Speaker 1: that there are two methods, the surgical and non surgical method. Now,
Speaker 1: for reference, Sky is going down the surgical route. So
Speaker 1: for that method, it is performed under a local anesthetic.
Speaker 1: So she is going to have incisions made in her
Speaker 1: scalp and then the ligaments at the outer edges of
Speaker 1: the eyes will be pulled up through these incisions and
Speaker 1: fixed on the bone and the incision sites. It sounds
Speaker 1: incredibly painful. I just want to know is it reversible? Well,
Speaker 1: it was interesting because they had a Q and A
Speaker 1: as well on this website, and firstly they said that
Speaker 1: anyone over the age of eighteen can have this procedure done,
Speaker 1: which I found quite alarming because this is supposed to
Speaker 1: be a procedure that turns back the clock. How fucking
Speaker 1: young do you want to look. Secondly, they also answered
Speaker 1: a question about the potential damage that this procedure can
Speaker 1: cause to. So the clinic answered this question by saying,
Speaker 1: if performed by an experienced physician, successful and healthy results
Speaker 1: are achieved and it doesn't cause permanent changes to the
Speaker 1: eye or any condition that may lead to vision impairmit.
Speaker 1: So I then take from that, So if this is
Speaker 1: performed by someone potentially with only four years experience in
Speaker 1: a hospital, can you then get visual impairment? It's terrifying.
Speaker 1: It finished also by saying immediately after the operation there
Speaker 1: is a lot of swelling, redness, and mild pain in
Speaker 1: the face, and that the recovery period spans from ten
Speaker 1: to fifteen days, So it looks like Sky may be
Speaker 1: spending quite a long time in Turkey before she flies
Speaker 1: back to the Gold Coast. Also on price, it mentioned
Speaker 1: that the procedure varies based on the experience of the surgeon,
Speaker 1: the clinical environment, and where the operation will be done.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd be wanting the most expensive one. Well,
Speaker 1: even though it doesn't look like doctor Fazfi has a
Speaker 1: lot of experience, I'm guessing that because he is the
Speaker 1: face of the business, his pricing will be the most expensive.
Speaker 1: God knows how little experience the other doctors beneath him have.
Speaker 1: This is so scary. Something that also stood out to
Speaker 1: me on this website was his marketing of what he
Speaker 1: calls mummy makeovers. This is just getting worse and worse.
Speaker 1: It makes me feel sick. So it says, if you're
Speaker 1: in trouble with excess weight that you gain during pregnancy
Speaker 1: and the deformations that occurred in your body after giving birth,
Speaker 1: listen to experts who recommend mummy makeovers to restore the
Speaker 1: body to its pre pregnancy state in a miraculous way.
Speaker 1: He continued, saying the procedures provide an important opportunity for
Speaker 1: the mother to get her pre pregnancy body back. I
Speaker 1: wonder if this is being marketed at women or the
Speaker 1: women's partners who want them to have this miraculous bounce back.
Speaker 1: I mean, as we talked about before red Flags, the
Speaker 1: mention of how miraculous this makeover is. It just makes
Speaker 1: me so mad because how dare a woman's body show
Speaker 1: the signs that she has birth today child? And the
Speaker 1: most disturbing part of this package is that they are
Speaker 1: recommending that mothers come in six months after childbirth. That
Speaker 1: is disgusting. I mean, they are just preying on women
Speaker 1: who clearly are feeling very insecure their bodies have change.
Speaker 1: It's the lowest of low. Well, it also says that
Speaker 1: the mother can still get pregnant the year after the operation,
Speaker 1: well following like a full lipost suction, tummy tuck. What
Speaker 1: that says to me is yeah, full pregnant again, because
Speaker 1: then we'll have you back in for another breastlift, lipos suction,
Speaker 1: all of the works. They just want to fill their
Speaker 1: pockets with money. Also, is the mom just meant to
Speaker 1: leave after six months? Like where's the child when this
Speaker 1: is happening? I mean, obviously their father or someone else
Speaker 1: can look after the baby. But it all just sounds
Speaker 1: very odd. Well, that's the thing. What mother of six
Speaker 1: months really wants to fly to the other side of
Speaker 1: the world without their newborn to have surgery. A lot
Speaker 1: of women are still breastfeeding as well. This is just insane.
Speaker 1: This already says so much about how this clinic is run. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm really intrigued to find doubt if this is a
Speaker 1: contra agreement between the clinic and Sky, because the fact
Speaker 1: that she has shared this reel says a lot. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: before she left, she also shared a self fee where
Speaker 1: she was pouting and wrote snatched soon and then said,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Turkey tomorrow and tagged doctor Fazbe's account.
Speaker 1: She also has continued to tag his account throughout her
Speaker 1: time in Turkey, and she has been sharing a lot
Speaker 1: about how the process works, which to me it seems
Speaker 1: like there must be some sort of deal in place,
Speaker 1: particularly because he is so savvy on social media. He
Speaker 1: would know the reach and influence that Sky has. Well,
Speaker 1: even if it's not a contra agreement, it would be
Speaker 1: good for Sky's engagement because we often talk about influencers
Speaker 1: who have babies, they suddenly gain a lot of followers.
Speaker 1: This kind of extreme surgery and the fact that she's
Speaker 1: traveling overseas will interest a lot of people, whether people
Speaker 1: interested in the surgery themselves or they're just interested in
Speaker 1: the I don't want to say was kind of like
Speaker 1: watching a car crash because you just have a terrible
Speaker 1: feeling in the pit of yourself that's not going to
Speaker 1: turn out. Okay, Yeah, I want to.
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Speaker 1: Just weeks after her much publicized breakup, Molly May Haig
Speaker 1: has announced her biggest project to date. The UK influencer
Speaker 1: has confirmed suspicions by dropping a clothing line called Maybe
Speaker 1: Now Amy one super sleuth cracked the code on the
Speaker 1: secret project last week. Yeah, we spoke about this in
Speaker 1: last week's episodes. So a super south called Luella came
Speaker 1: across a Pinterest board she believed belonged to Molly May.
Speaker 1: Here's what she said.
Speaker 2: It has clothing and spo So of course I went
Speaker 2: over to Instagram and there was a new account that
Speaker 2: is called Maybe and only had seventeen followers, and it
Speaker 2: was only following one person, and of course the only
Speaker 2: person it is following is Molly may So. I then
Speaker 2: went on to.
Speaker 1: This girl should consider a new career the FBI because
Speaker 1: she on covered a store called Maybe listed on Trademark
Speaker 1: UK's website and linked it back to one of Molly's
Speaker 1: newly listed companies. A couple of days after Lluella created
Speaker 1: her TikTok video, the Maybe Instagram account climbed over fifty
Speaker 1: seven thousand followers. The clothing line seemed like a very
Speaker 1: probable guest because Molly has proven that she can sell clothes.
Speaker 1: She has had a long standing partnership with PLT and
Speaker 1: she sold a fuck ton of clothing. I wonder if
Speaker 1: she was really pissed off when this TikTok came out.
Speaker 1: She'd be like, how do these people find out this information? Well,
Speaker 1: especially only a week out now. On Sunday night, Molly
Speaker 1: broke the news of her new clothing line by posting
Speaker 1: a promotional reel with the caption twenty nine O nine
Speaker 1: twenty four, which is the date that the clothing goes live.
Speaker 1: She also tagged the Maybe store Instagram handle, which was
Speaker 1: the same account that the super Sleuth uncovered. She might
Speaker 1: have been happy in a way that it already had
Speaker 1: so many Instagram followers. Yeah, it's actually worked in her
Speaker 1: favor because she's been sharing a lot of calls to
Speaker 1: action on the Maybe Instagram account, and it would really
Speaker 1: help that it now has tens of thousands of followers
Speaker 1: at the get go? What did you think about this real?
Speaker 1: Because it was shot in black and white and it
Speaker 1: showed a lot of clips of Molly working behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: I hate to use this term, but she looked like
Speaker 1: a real girl boss. Yeah I hate that term too,
Speaker 1: but yeah, she was at the brand's photo shoot and
Speaker 1: she looked like she was in charge directing the shoot.
Speaker 1: She was overseeing the shoot and approving a lot of
Speaker 1: photos on a laptop. There's then a moment where she
Speaker 1: sits down in a director's chair and says this, have
Speaker 1: you ever thought about launching a fashion brand? Maybe I
Speaker 1: couldn't help, but notice that Molly looked a bit awkward
Speaker 1: during the speaking part of this video, which made it
Speaker 1: a bit more endearing. Do you know what, It's really
Speaker 1: awkward when you have to say something in a video
Speaker 1: but it's very short, like you know what you have
Speaker 1: to say, like, oh, my name is Amy, and it's
Speaker 1: really hard to say it naturally. Well, she's used to
Speaker 1: speaking to a camera, but in this sense, she was
Speaker 1: having to act as if she was being interviewed. So
Speaker 1: I think that that's why it felt a little bit awkward.
Speaker 1: I really love the way that they keep trying to
Speaker 1: make it a plan words with maybe Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: it's really clever. A lot of fans also noticed that
Speaker 1: Molly was wearing her very large engagement ring in the video,
Speaker 1: but this is because it was filmed pre breakup. I
Speaker 1: wonder if they considered reshooting this because her ring is
Speaker 1: very prominent in this real I mean, I suppose it
Speaker 1: just creates more engagement. I say. I think everyone is
Speaker 1: probably tagging their friends going tod just see the engagement ring,
Speaker 1: like coming back together for them, it's only a positive Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: the Maybe Instagram account at the time of recording has
Speaker 1: grown to four hundred and fifty five thousand followers, and
Speaker 1: with so many followers already, they are using the site
Speaker 1: to promote calls to action. As I mentioned, so they've
Speaker 1: shared an Instagram story with a graphic saying maybe, just
Speaker 1: maybe it's everything you've been waiting for, and they then
Speaker 1: urged customers to sign up to a mailing list to
Speaker 1: get news of the first I have signed up immediately
Speaker 1: the links. The link then also directs you to the
Speaker 1: Maybe website where there were four black and white polaroids
Speaker 1: of Molly wearing a white top and baggy pinstripe jeans
Speaker 1: and it says the secret is out. So there are
Speaker 1: a few little hints as to what you can expect
Speaker 1: from this line and Maybe is already dominating on TikTok.
Speaker 1: It's at one hundred and thirty one thousand followers and
Speaker 1: I love it because Molly took the opportunity to make
Speaker 1: light of this super sleuth revealing her project a week out.
Speaker 1: So she shared a snippet from the promo video and
Speaker 1: it shows her cracking up laughing with the caption three
Speaker 1: years keeping Maybe a secret and you guys guessed it
Speaker 1: with a week to go. And in the comments section,
Speaker 1: the super sleuth Luella wrote, maybe I should be on
Speaker 1: the team and that got eight thousand likes. Well, since
Speaker 1: this launch, more super sleuths have been digging into this brand.
Speaker 1: Take a shot. Every time we say super slit a
Speaker 1: strong episode word sounds anyway. TikToker Flynn West, who has
Speaker 1: over one hundred and three thousand follow and creates entertainment content.
Speaker 1: Found leaked images of the collection and as expected, the
Speaker 1: collection is very Molly May. So there are a lot
Speaker 1: of oversized blazers, there's lots of neutrals and capsule pieces.
Speaker 1: It's sort of what you would expect, and it's nice
Speaker 1: to see that the brand is stocking a variety of sizes.
Speaker 1: It does seem to be on the more expensive side,
Speaker 1: so Flynn revealed that a blazer will set you back
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty pounds, so that's three hundred Australian dollars.
Speaker 1: We were debating that last week whether we thought she
Speaker 1: would go high or low, and I'm actually glad that
Speaker 1: she's got higher price points because I'm hoping that means
Speaker 1: that these items are ethically sourced and maybe better quality
Speaker 1: than some of the fast fashion style. Well, she kind
Speaker 1: of had to come out with a more expensive line
Speaker 1: because if it was too similar to PLT I think
Speaker 1: that would have caused a few issues. Yeah. Well, Flynn
Speaker 1: also dug a bit deeper to uncover that Alisha Diamond
Speaker 1: is Molly's director of buying. So Alisha is the director
Speaker 1: and co founder already of her own brand, and also
Speaker 1: a buyer at a brand called the Carture Club. Now,
Speaker 1: Flynn jumped on the Carture Club's website and discovered that
Speaker 1: a number of Molly's leaked outfits, as well as the
Speaker 1: outfits shown in the promo video, look very similar to
Speaker 1: pieces from the Carture Club, So he thinks that the
Speaker 1: close for maybe are being supplied by the Carture Club. Again,
Speaker 1: this is just speculation because in my opinion, a lot
Speaker 1: of these capsule neutral items all look the same. They're basics.
Speaker 1: Of course they going to look quite similar now. The
Speaker 1: Blue Tick Brigade, as always, was out in force to
Speaker 1: congratulate Molly. Mollie's sisters that we wrote goosebumps every time,
Speaker 1: Let's go fairly love Islander. Moore Higgins wrote yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: so proud of you my girl. Sofi Dofa also got
Speaker 1: into the action, writing so ready. Notably, Tommy did not
Speaker 1: like the post or comment. He is still following Molly,
Speaker 1: but I kind of can understand why he didn't write anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to make it all about you because
Speaker 1: there'd be so much speculation. Now pretty little Thing was
Speaker 1: also so notably absent from the comment section, and also
Speaker 1: like section, which isn't really surprising as maybe is going
Speaker 1: to be a huge competitive for them, even though they
Speaker 1: are going down a different route of pricing. Well have
Speaker 1: you seen there's new rumors flying about Molly and Tommy
Speaker 1: apparently getting back together. Well this has all happened on
Speaker 1: the eve of her launching the fashion line. So the
Speaker 1: tabloids in the UK started running with the story that
Speaker 1: Molly and Tommy are rekindling their relationship. I saw the
Speaker 1: headline and I was like bullshits. So the Sun ran
Speaker 1: with the headline back on Molly and Tommy Fury are
Speaker 1: spending romantic evenings together at four million Mansion as they
Speaker 1: rekindle romance after split. So this publication claimed to have
Speaker 1: intel from an insider, who of course was not named,
Speaker 1: and they said that Molly and Tommy are finding their
Speaker 1: way through their issues and that they are heading for
Speaker 1: a full on reconciliation. Now, the unnamed source was quoted
Speaker 1: as Sam saying it might come as a surprise to many,
Speaker 1: but despite what may have gone on, they adore one another.
Speaker 1: They as good as grew up together. They were barely
Speaker 1: twenty when they met, and they have navigated the whole
Speaker 1: fame thing together that bond and those times can never
Speaker 1: be taken from them. They have had to see one
Speaker 1: another because of Bambie, and that has been a good
Speaker 1: opportunity for them to have begun the process of getting
Speaker 1: back together. They're enjoying quiet time away from the limelight.
Speaker 1: Now that line is where you know that this is bullshit,
Speaker 1: because neither of them are enjoying quiet time away from
Speaker 1: the limelight. They are being followed by paparazzi, their names
Speaker 1: are all over the press at the moment. I think
Speaker 1: what's happened is Tommy has just been around a lot
Speaker 1: to the house because he's been looking after Bamby, and
Speaker 1: the press are just reading so much into it. I
Speaker 1: just think it's a really mean headline because there are
Speaker 1: so many people who have been upset by this breakup
Speaker 1: and it's giving us all hope that they might get
Speaker 1: back together when it's evident they're not going to. Molly's
Speaker 1: not going to come on a platform and make this
Speaker 1: big deal about breaking up and then a week later
Speaker 1: get back with Tommy. Wells also been releasing these bizarre
Speaker 1: YouTube videos. Yeah, he did a five minute video where
Speaker 1: he asked his followers to come along as he did
Speaker 1: a five k run and then he was trying some
Speaker 1: spicy food challenge. It's really weird how he's trying to
Speaker 1: launch his YouTube career off the back of this. I
Speaker 1: also don't like that the media are running with this
Speaker 1: headline on the eve of her project launching, because they
Speaker 1: know that this supposed backflip is going to lead people
Speaker 1: to think that this breakup is just a publicity stunt
Speaker 1: to promote her product. Well, maybe it's Tommy's PR team
Speaker 1: that are pushing this story because Tommy has been copying
Speaker 1: it in public. This kind of positive pr would be
Speaker 1: good for him. The thing that shit, though, is that
Speaker 1: it turns it on Molly may be as people are saying, oh,
Speaker 1: you're toying with our emotions just so that you can
Speaker 1: sell this product. And the media really are only putting
Speaker 1: headlines out about this because they know that the Tommy
Speaker 1: and Molly's story gets clicks. They know that they need
Speaker 1: to change the narrow No one's interested in any more
Speaker 1: of these fake cheating allegations. They need to have a
Speaker 1: twist in the story, and potentially that's them getting back together.
Speaker 1: They also know that it's going to lead to a
Speaker 1: lot of negative comments towards Molly, which in turn leads
Speaker 1: to engagement and more people clicking on the story and
Speaker 1: them getting more ads.
Speaker 2: You want to keep things private, but at the same time, like,
Speaker 2: I'm not here to like hide anything that's my girl.
Speaker 1: The Internet went into meltdown late last week after images
Speaker 1: of an alleged breakup contract between Taylor Swift and Travis
Speaker 1: Kelsey's surfaced on Reddit. The document, purporting to be from
Speaker 1: Travis's PR team, claimed the couple were set to split
Speaker 1: on the twenty eighth of September twenty twenty four. Amy,
Speaker 1: Can you tell us more about this supposed breakup contract? Yeah? So.
Speaker 1: The document was entitled Comprehensive Media Plan for Travis Kelcey's
Speaker 1: Public Relations Following Breakup with Taylor Swift. Now Emblazoned on
Speaker 1: the front page was the logo of PR agency full Skar,
Speaker 1: which manages Travis. The document outlined a media strategy on
Speaker 1: how to protect Travis's reputation following the supposed split and
Speaker 1: how the firm would manage any negative press so. Some
Speaker 1: of the key messages included highlighting that the breakup was
Speaker 1: a mutual decision, emphasizing Travis's career achievements, and also stating
Speaker 1: the breakup would provide Travis and Taylor with the opportunity
Speaker 1: for personal growth. Everyone loves a bit of personal growth.
Speaker 1: It even went as far as including a statement for
Speaker 1: the media which read, Travis and Taylor have decided to
Speaker 1: part ways after careful consideration. They both value and respect
Speaker 1: each other's personal lives and appreciate your respect for privacy
Speaker 1: during this time. Now, this was first posted on Reddit
Speaker 1: after someone came across on Snapchat, and then Snapchat yeah,
Speaker 1: and then it was quickly picked up by the Daily
Speaker 1: Mail and it is spread like wildfire. What did you
Speaker 1: initially think when you saw the reports? Well, I think
Speaker 1: there has always been a level of scal decism around
Speaker 1: this relationship due to just how public it's been from
Speaker 1: day one. But when I looked at this document, it
Speaker 1: doesn't look like a real PR statement or strategy. It
Speaker 1: sounds like it's been written by chat GPD. Yeah. A
Speaker 1: lot of other people were saying it almost looks like
Speaker 1: a high school assignment the way it's been written as well.
Speaker 1: It's also weird because the media keep referring to it
Speaker 1: as a breakup contract, but the whole document is actually
Speaker 1: a PR strategy on how to deal with this break.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not as catchy though, is it. No,
Speaker 1: And it didn't take long for Travis's PR team to
Speaker 1: label the documents as fake. So full Scope released a
Speaker 1: statement saying the document is entirely false and fabricated, and
Speaker 1: they also said it was not created, issued, or authorized
Speaker 1: by their agency. They continued, we have engaged our legal
Speaker 1: team to initiate proceedings against the individuals or entities responsible
Speaker 1: for the unlawful and injurious forgery of document. This reminds
Speaker 1: me of a story we covered a few years ago
Speaker 1: where mea plus it was accused of forging legal documents.
Speaker 1: So she allegedly found a legal logo which she slapped
Speaker 1: on there in the header and foot her and it
Speaker 1: just didn't read like a proper legal letter. I feel
Speaker 1: like with chat GPT people would be abusing it a bit,
Speaker 1: especially with legal type letters. Now, despite all of the denials,
Speaker 1: many people are still questioning the validity of the contract,
Speaker 1: and this is due to media reports on full Scope's
Speaker 1: founder Jake Keatson. So Keeterson has previously admitted to setting
Speaker 1: up showmances in the past. He even wrote a book
Speaker 1: about it and In twenty nineteen, he was interviewed on
Speaker 1: Mum and Me as the Quickie, where he explained how
Speaker 1: showmancers work. So he told the podcast that he'd been
Speaker 1: responsible for staging at least two relationships during his career.
Speaker 1: He explained that in the past, a lot of these
Speaker 1: fake relationships were used to cover up the fact a
Speaker 1: popular actor might be gay, but now they're used to
Speaker 1: distract from negative press or purely to generate. That is
Speaker 1: an interesting element because if you think about it, Travis's
Speaker 1: career has really skyrocketed since he started dating Taylor Swift, because,
Speaker 1: as we touched on last week, he's recently signed a
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollar podcast deal. He's also done some
Speaker 1: huge partnerships with Pepsi, and his star just seems to
Speaker 1: be on the rise. I mean, I had no idea
Speaker 1: who the guy was until I saw him on TikTok
Speaker 1: talking about wanting to give Taylor Swift a friendship bracelet. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, for Taylor, it's not as if she needs
Speaker 1: Travis for publicity, but she was coming out of this
Speaker 1: really bad breakup with Matt Healey, so I think Taylor
Speaker 1: was happy to be seen out and about with another guy.
Speaker 1: And also, if you think of the type of coverage
Speaker 1: Taylor and Travis were getting during the Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: how that coincided with the Eras tour, it was literally
Speaker 1: a PR dream for both of them. Yeah, well it
Speaker 1: was the all American dream. It was the pop star
Speaker 1: with the popular footy player. Well. Adding more fuel to
Speaker 1: the fire are old reports which have resurfaced. So last year,
Speaker 1: a well known twitch by the name of Cutie Cinderella
Speaker 1: was interviewed on a podcast and she dropped some very
Speaker 1: juicy details about Travis and Taylor. So she told the podcast,
Speaker 1: here's some crazy hot tea. My makeup artist was doing
Speaker 1: my makeup yesterday and I'm as swifty and I casually
Speaker 1: bring her up in conversation and she's like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a PR relationship. It's so crazy, And I was like,
Speaker 1: with Travis Kelsey and she said yeah. She said the
Speaker 1: makeup artist was friends with Travis's publicist. So the twitch
Speaker 1: player said she questioned her further as to whether maybe
Speaker 1: the relationship had started off as a PR relationship, but asked, well,
Speaker 1: is it love now, and the makeup artist allegedly responded, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to believe this. I know Now a
Speaker 1: lot of people are speculating that the publicist is Pierre
Speaker 1: Malahaih and she co founded full Scope in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two alongside Kettsen. Now interestingly, Pierre is rumored to be
Speaker 1: dating Kansas City's chief player Sky Moore, and she got
Speaker 1: in hot water last year when she reshared a friend's
Speaker 1: post on Instagram. So the photo in question was of
Speaker 1: herself with Taylor Swift, but in the photo, Taylor's head
Speaker 1: was covered by a clown emoji, and a lot of
Speaker 1: Swifties took great offense to this, so Pia's friend was
Speaker 1: forced to apologize. She explained it wasn't meant to be
Speaker 1: an insult and that she put the emoji on the
Speaker 1: photo because she wanted to ensure the attention was on
Speaker 1: Peer for her birthday. The friend wrote, wrong choice of
Speaker 1: birthday clown emoji nothing but love for Taylor. I don't
Speaker 1: buy that for a second. If you didn't want to
Speaker 1: take attention away from Peer on her birthday, then post
Speaker 1: an individual photo with Pierre, not one with Taylor Swift dinner. Well,
Speaker 1: knowing all that we know about the people that run
Speaker 1: this PR business, do we really think that the pr
Speaker 1: masterminds behind Taylor Swift would strike of a deal with
Speaker 1: a PR firm like full Scope. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: tree Paine would be getting involved with them at all,
Speaker 1: and I think that she would be telling Travis Kelsey
Speaker 1: to find new management. Yeah, because their most famous client
Speaker 1: other than Travis is probably Kristin Cavaliery and also Nick Carter.
Speaker 1: And interestingly, many people believe that Kristin could also be
Speaker 1: in a PR relationship because she's dating that twenty four
Speaker 1: year old Montanner boy that TikToker. Kristin recently had her
Speaker 1: boyfriend Mark and her podcast and they did a say
Speaker 1: it or Shot it game and it was quite awkward
Speaker 1: because one of the questions was did you did it
Speaker 1: put you off that Kristin was a lot older than
Speaker 1: you and had kids And he just sounded like a
Speaker 1: typical young guy. He's like, or do you really think
Speaker 1: about it at all? And there was an awkward question
Speaker 1: about kids, so he said that he does want kids.
Speaker 1: But they have both said that they're not going to
Speaker 1: speak about what the future holds for them because they've
Speaker 1: only been dating for six months and they don't want
Speaker 1: to put pressure on it. Well, it seems like This
Speaker 1: relationship to Kristin is a bit of fun. She's coming
Speaker 1: out of a divorce, so it's nice for her to
Speaker 1: have this hot guy to be hanging out with. Now,
Speaker 1: just back to Travis and Taylor. I think this whole
Speaker 1: document is fake because even people magazine have gone as
Speaker 1: far as to label this as a sam But I
Speaker 1: want to know your thoughts, Sophie on Full Scope launching
Speaker 1: legal action, because it really has drawn more attention to
Speaker 1: the story, and a lot of people have said, oh,
Speaker 1: wouldn't ignoring it like Taylor's team has done make it
Speaker 1: seem less legitimate. I disagree. I think that they had
Speaker 1: to come out and show that they were serious about
Speaker 1: this because this is someone who has stolen their logo.
Speaker 1: They've slapped it on a fake document. It's also not
Speaker 1: a good look for the company to appear as though
Speaker 1: they have confidential documents just lying around the office to
Speaker 1: be photographed on Snapchat. I also saw a distinct change
Speaker 1: in the reporting of the matter, so so many publications
Speaker 1: are now labeling the breakup contract as a fake, And
Speaker 1: if Full Scope hadn't threatened legal action, I think many
Speaker 1: publications would have continued to push the narrative that this
Speaker 1: contract was legitimate. Well, they're probably also scared seeing that
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey as signed a one hundred million dollar deal.
Speaker 1: I mean, he obviously has a lot of money he
Speaker 1: can sue whoever he wants to sue. His goal friend
Speaker 1: also is a billionaire. Well, Taylor seems to be really
Speaker 1: unfazed by the whole thing. I mean, if you actually
Speaker 1: believe The Daily Male's sources. Apparently one of them close
Speaker 1: to Taylor said she was unbothered and quite amused by this.
Speaker 1: She usually pays these things no mind at all, but
Speaker 1: this was hilarious ai realness, it isn't even worth an
Speaker 1: actual reaction from her all the team. The supposed source
Speaker 1: then went on to say that Taylor and Travis had
Speaker 1: a good laugh about it and planned to mark the
Speaker 1: twenty eighth of September doing something special and fun to commemorate.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that Taylor would have been cool
Speaker 1: about this. There's already so much speculation around their relationship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but she's used to it. Every week there's a new
Speaker 1: article about them, and they have really been showing this
Speaker 1: united front since the story broke. But that to me
Speaker 1: shows that they're bothered because they're saying, oh, yeah, she
Speaker 1: doesn't mind, but literally they're making a huge effort to
Speaker 1: be seen in public with one another. That wouldn't be
Speaker 1: ideal either way, Like, if it was true, you'd be like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck your stupid PR team our confidential documents
Speaker 1: around And on the other hand, she's probably like, why
Speaker 1: are people even questioning this? Why would we have a
Speaker 1: fake relationship for so well, Taylor has made sure she's
Speaker 1: looking hot when she's seen her in public with him.
Speaker 1: I loved her two piece denim outfit that she wore
Speaker 1: to one of the Chiefs Games. She was also spotted
Speaker 1: supporting US tennis player Taylor Fritz at the US Open
Speaker 1: with Travis Kelsey. It looked as if Gucci had vomited
Speaker 1: over here. He had a Gucci bucket, had a Gucci top.
Speaker 1: A lot of people were saying in the comments, just
Speaker 1: because it's expensive, it doesn't mean that looks good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he looked like a bit of a fashion victim, didn't he?
Speaker 1: But Taylor looked great well. They were also sitting in
Speaker 1: the box with them a home, so apparently Taylor is
Speaker 1: good friends with Patrick's wife, Britney, and at one point
Speaker 1: Travis and Taylor were shown singing along to I Believe
Speaker 1: In a Thing Called Love and they were literally screaming
Speaker 1: to each other. Yeah. But the best part about that
Speaker 1: was you could see in the clip Britney turned to
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and be like, what is this song? Because
Speaker 1: it's an older song? Like, they look so confused. I'd
Speaker 1: love to know what everyone thinks in our Facebook community.
Speaker 1: Do you think that this contract is fake? Well that
Speaker 1: is all we have time for today. Thank you so
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