WEBVTT - The Five Star Holiday With a Side of Plastic Surgery

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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<v Speaker 1>hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, Sky Wheatley

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<v Speaker 1>jets into Turkey for controversial procedure, the breakup contract making

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<v Speaker 1>headlines and are Molly May and Tommy Fury getting back together?

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<v Speaker 1>But first, a tiny doll is having a choke hold

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<v Speaker 1>over gen Zettters. It's called a sunny Angel and they

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<v Speaker 1>are all over my TikTok feed if they're bloody ugly.

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<v Speaker 1>They remind me a little bit of the cabbage Patch

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<v Speaker 1>doll craze, except you don't actually know which doll you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get until you open the packet. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>called a blind unboxing amy and I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>part of the appeal because there are over six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty of these dolls to collect. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>what really started the craze is Bella had did because

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<v Speaker 1>she posted a video to her Instagram and it showed

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<v Speaker 1>that she had a whole wall of these collects dolls. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be judgmental because I remember about

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<v Speaker 1>seven years ago when they had those lego AFL players

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<v Speaker 1>and you didn't know which one year you were going

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<v Speaker 1>to get. For some reason, I got hooked on these things,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can see why people are going so crazy

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<v Speaker 1>about them. I think it's definitely a younger audience who

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<v Speaker 1>are collecting these. I can't see anyone in their thirties

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to collect them. Maybe for their kids, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>they retail for eighteen ninety five, so that's not a

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<v Speaker 1>regular doll, but if you're after a limited edition series

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<v Speaker 1>that's twenty four to ninety five. Now. They are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of clever though, because they're releasing all these different series

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<v Speaker 1>of the dolls, and within them there's two secret dolls

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<v Speaker 1>in each batch, which are apparently worth more money. They

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<v Speaker 1>must be making an absolute fortune. I even saw Victoria

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<v Speaker 1>Beckham had one, because they make these special plastic ones

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<v Speaker 1>that you put on your phone. The funniest thing about

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<v Speaker 1>these dolls is their nude, So the only thing that

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<v Speaker 1>really differentiates them is that they'll have a different hat on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like jen Zetas are trying to cling onto

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<v Speaker 1>their childhood by buying into all this stuff. And me

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<v Speaker 1>think of the jelly Cat craze as well. There are

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<v Speaker 1>so many twenty five year old YouTubers who I follow,

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<v Speaker 1>and they will have bookshelves which are decorated with these

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<v Speaker 1>Sunny Angels and then also their jelly cats, which I

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<v Speaker 1>personally couldn't think of anything worse in my house. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually all for it because I'm a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>big kid at heart. I collect penguins, and I actually

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<v Speaker 1>have a large penguin in my office, so I am

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<v Speaker 1>not judging. One thing that is pretty cute about this

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<v Speaker 1>is that there are Sunny Angel Facebook groups. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>one that has over six thousand followers and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a buy and swap marketplace. But also people

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<v Speaker 1>are finding friends on there. They're sharing about creating different

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<v Speaker 1>outfits for their Sunny Angels, so it seems pretty positive. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty something men society lets them trade football cards and

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<v Speaker 1>fucking play video games. This is like the female version. Alrighty,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is our first full day. So here's us

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<v Speaker 1>driving through Turkey. Skywheetlee has begun to documenting her trip

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<v Speaker 1>to Turkey to undergo a controversial fox I lift and

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<v Speaker 1>potentially liposuction. Now. Back in July, we reported that the

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<v Speaker 1>recent I'm a Celeb winner joked that she was surgery

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed and knew she would be judged for her decision

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<v Speaker 1>that this procedure is gaining a lot of traction on

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok with arm and shaped eyes and upturned eyes apparently

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<v Speaker 1>being all the rage. Yeah, I mean again, we're mentioning

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<v Speaker 1>Bellaha did because she has been appointed as the poster

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<v Speaker 1>girl for this trend, with a lot of red carpet

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<v Speaker 1>photos of her all over Cosmetic Surgeon's website. Now. Over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend, Sky jetted into Turkey for her procedure, and

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<v Speaker 1>she shared some photos from the airport and a scenic

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<v Speaker 1>shot of Turkey from outside her aeroplane window. Now, she

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<v Speaker 1>was picked up by a very flash limousine which had

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<v Speaker 1>been organized by the clinic, and she shared a photo

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<v Speaker 1>of herself stretched out on the back seat. That's always

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a warning sign, isn't it when they

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<v Speaker 1>send a really fancy car, But you're thinking that where

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<v Speaker 1>all of my money's Yeah, something kind of tacky about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's clear that this is a strategy of the clinics

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<v Speaker 1>to make their patients feel really special, almost like they're

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<v Speaker 1>a celebrity who's arrived at the airport to be picked

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<v Speaker 1>up and embark on this very luxurious experience, because when

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<v Speaker 1>it's nothing but luxurious, is it being operational? It all

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<v Speaker 1>just seems to be smoke and mirrors, because the reason

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<v Speaker 1>that people travel to Turkey is because the price of

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<v Speaker 1>cosmetic procedures are a lot cheaper over there. But if

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<v Speaker 1>it was me, I'd be thinking, well, is this what

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<v Speaker 1>all of my money has gone into? Because Sky has

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<v Speaker 1>also been put up at a five star hotel in

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<v Speaker 1>the heart of the city there, I want to point

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<v Speaker 1>out that this isn't because she's an influencer. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what any patient gets now. Her room was filled with chandeliers,

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<v Speaker 1>It looked very lux and it's quite interesting because her baby,

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<v Speaker 1>daddy Locky and the kids aren't joining Sky in Turkey,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that this is often sold as a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a holiday, because even though people are undergoing

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<v Speaker 1>these intense procedures, they're like on the website a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these clinics they say, oh, you can still check

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<v Speaker 1>out the sites and have a great time. Well, can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine being all bandaged up and trying to wrangle

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<v Speaker 1>two children around Turkey. Well, apparently, on the streets of

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<v Speaker 1>Turkey it is very normal to see Westerners with bandages on.

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<v Speaker 1>I recently saw a TikTok of a woman boarding a

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<v Speaker 1>plane in Turkey and there were about ten men in

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<v Speaker 1>front of her who were all baled, who had recently

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<v Speaker 1>undergone a hair transplant, because I had little holes all

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<v Speaker 1>in their head and she's like, is this normal? Like

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<v Speaker 1>what is going on? Well? Sky has been taking her

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<v Speaker 1>followers along for the journey, and she showed herself arriving

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<v Speaker 1>at the hospital for her blood test and X rays,

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<v Speaker 1>and her driver also dropped off her new friend who

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<v Speaker 1>was also getting veneers. Then she was off to meet

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<v Speaker 1>doctor vas Vis Silik for the first time. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is the doctor who will be performing the fox I lived.

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<v Speaker 1>His clinic was next level. It had marble floors and

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<v Speaker 1>it was decorated with gold statues. There's a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a theme going on, isn't there with this elegance or

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<v Speaker 1>there was even a designated photoshoot area, so professional light

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<v Speaker 1>setup and a black backdrop, and the doctor appeared to

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<v Speaker 1>be taking the photos. So these were before and after photos,

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<v Speaker 1>which shows you how important social media is for this clinic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's obviously generating so many more leads for there. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like a very slick operation that they have running there. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a look at doctor faz Fee's website and

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<v Speaker 1>it had his bio up and this is where the

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<v Speaker 1>red flags started to fly because it was a very

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<v Speaker 1>short bio. So it said that he had been working

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<v Speaker 1>as a doctor in a range of state hospitals for

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<v Speaker 1>three years and eight months. It was very specific. It

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<v Speaker 1>said he spent one and a half years at one hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>one and a half at another, and then eight months

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<v Speaker 1>at another hospital. Did it mention his photography skills, Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't. It said that he said where he graduated,

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<v Speaker 1>but it didn't say the year, and it also didn't

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<v Speaker 1>say how long he's been running his own clinic for.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was all a bit odd. It lacked a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of detail. But what he lacks an experience, he

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<v Speaker 1>clearly makes up for with Instagram followers because he has

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<v Speaker 1>sixty seven point five thousand followers and you can tell

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<v Speaker 1>this most likely legitimizes him for a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of scary. Yeah, he and his team

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<v Speaker 1>are very savvy on social media. They filmed a reel

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<v Speaker 1>of Sky coming in for her first consult and in

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<v Speaker 1>the caption, the doctor wrote, exciting day at the clinic. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>I had the pleasure of meeting with the wonderful Sky Wheatley,

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<v Speaker 1>who traveled all the way from Australia to visit us.

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<v Speaker 1>We had an engaging consultation regarding her upcoming browlift surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great to explore her goals and answer all

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<v Speaker 1>her questions to ensure she's confident and prepared for the

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<v Speaker 1>journey ahead. Here's to new beginnings and beautiful transformations now.

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<v Speaker 1>In the video, Sky greeted doctor faz Fee with a hug.

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<v Speaker 1>They looked like they'd known each other for years, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is the first time that they have met, and

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<v Speaker 1>he gave her a fluffy Koala with an Ossie flag

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<v Speaker 1>to make her feel at home. And then it was

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<v Speaker 1>time for Sky to head in for her before and

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<v Speaker 1>after photos, and in the you can see the doctor

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<v Speaker 1>examining a close up shot of Sky's nose and she's

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<v Speaker 1>asking for changes to be made to her nose job

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<v Speaker 1>and that was once she got a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>She did confirm in the comment section though, that the

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<v Speaker 1>doctor had told her that her nose is fine and

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't need more work on it. That there was

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a green flag for him because he

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<v Speaker 1>could have said, actually, we'll do that as well. There

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<v Speaker 1>were a lot of people in the comment section who

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<v Speaker 1>seemed quite disturbed by Sky traveling to Turkey. One person wrote, Sky,

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<v Speaker 1>do not go ahead with this procedure. You are so

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly beautiful as you are. Please stop chasing perfection. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>never be happy. You were looking for yourself in all

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong places and sending the wrong message to other women.

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<v Speaker 1>Your heart is beautiful, therefore you are beautiful. Sending you

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<v Speaker 1>love and strength. I tend to agree with that comment.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go too much into it because

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<v Speaker 1>I know that it is ultimately Sky's decision what she

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<v Speaker 1>does to her body. But I find it so disturbing

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<v Speaker 1>because she's only thirty. She looks so young. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>stunning woman. I recently saw this interview with Sky on

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<v Speaker 1>the carpet at the Logis, and she was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>all the procedures she had done, and she was saying

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<v Speaker 1>that she likes to be really open and honest with

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<v Speaker 1>her audience about her cosmetic procedures, or she likes to

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<v Speaker 1>be transparent because she doesn't want young girls to look

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<v Speaker 1>at her and think, oh, she just naturally looks like that.

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<v Speaker 1>She hasn't had any work done to get that, and

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<v Speaker 1>why don't I look like that? It really is a

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<v Speaker 1>catch twenty two because it is good that Sky's being transparent,

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<v Speaker 1>but some of her videos could also be seen as

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<v Speaker 1>if they're promoting the surgeries and encouraging young girls to

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<v Speaker 1>also seek out this type of surgery. Now, this real

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<v Speaker 1>performed really well. It has had over one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>sixty eight thousand views, and it led me to go

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<v Speaker 1>and have a look at the other types of content

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<v Speaker 1>that doctor Fazfi was sharing, and his instagram is full

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<v Speaker 1>of Westerners who come to him for either breast augmentations, liposuction,

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<v Speaker 1>knows jobs, body contouring, or fox I Lifts. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a look at the website and the clinic goes into

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of detail about the fox ilift procedure. So

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<v Speaker 1>it begins by saying beauty is an important concept that

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<v Speaker 1>people have considered important from the earliest times to present days,

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<v Speaker 1>with eye beauty being the most important deep it continues

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<v Speaker 1>saying having attractive eyes is an indispensable criterion of being

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful woman or a handsome man. This description already

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<v Speaker 1>makes me feel uncomfortable because it is clear that they

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<v Speaker 1>are playing on vanity here. This would never be on

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<v Speaker 1>an Australian plastic surgeon's website because if I went to

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<v Speaker 1>the website and I wanted to find out about the

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<v Speaker 1>Fox I lift. I want to see medically what it's about.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to outline in a professional manner, not telling me, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be so much more beautiful if you

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<v Speaker 1>have this under your eyes. Yeah, well, they're obviously going

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<v Speaker 1>for a certain market. I mean. The website went on

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<v Speaker 1>to say that this is a minimally invasive surgery and

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<v Speaker 1>will result in the eyes looking bigger and more slanted

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<v Speaker 1>to make the face look younger. It also noted that

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<v Speaker 1>the rise and popularity of the surgery was due to

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<v Speaker 1>Bellahad did, which is interesting in itself, even mentioning her

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah well it almost is saying, hey, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a craze created by TikTok. It also outlined

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<v Speaker 1>that there are two methods, the surgical and non surgical method. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>for reference, Sky is going down the surgical route. So

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<v Speaker 1>for that method, it is performed under a local anesthetic.

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<v Speaker 1>So she is going to have incisions made in her

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<v Speaker 1>scalp and then the ligaments at the outer edges of

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<v Speaker 1>the eyes will be pulled up through these incisions and

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<v Speaker 1>fixed on the bone and the incision sites. It sounds

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly painful. I just want to know is it reversible? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it was interesting because they had a Q and A

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<v Speaker 1>as well on this website, and firstly they said that

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<v Speaker 1>anyone over the age of eighteen can have this procedure done,

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<v Speaker 1>which I found quite alarming because this is supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be a procedure that turns back the clock. How fucking

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<v Speaker 1>young do you want to look. Secondly, they also answered

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<v Speaker 1>a question about the potential damage that this procedure can

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<v Speaker 1>cause to. So the clinic answered this question by saying,

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<v Speaker 1>if performed by an experienced physician, successful and healthy results

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<v Speaker 1>are achieved and it doesn't cause permanent changes to the

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<v Speaker 1>eye or any condition that may lead to vision impairmit.

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<v Speaker 1>So I then take from that, So if this is

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<v Speaker 1>performed by someone potentially with only four years experience in

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<v Speaker 1>a hospital, can you then get visual impairment? It's terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>It finished also by saying immediately after the operation there

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot of swelling, redness, and mild pain in

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<v Speaker 1>the face, and that the recovery period spans from ten

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<v Speaker 1>to fifteen days, So it looks like Sky may be

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<v Speaker 1>spending quite a long time in Turkey before she flies

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Gold Coast. Also on price, it mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that the procedure varies based on the experience of the surgeon,

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<v Speaker 1>the clinical environment, and where the operation will be done.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'd be wanting the most expensive one. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it doesn't look like doctor Fazfi has a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of experience, I'm guessing that because he is the

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<v Speaker 1>face of the business, his pricing will be the most expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>God knows how little experience the other doctors beneath him have.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so scary. Something that also stood out to

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<v Speaker 1>me on this website was his marketing of what he

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<v Speaker 1>calls mummy makeovers. This is just getting worse and worse.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes me feel sick. So it says, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble with excess weight that you gain during pregnancy

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<v Speaker 1>and the deformations that occurred in your body after giving birth,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to experts who recommend mummy makeovers to restore the

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<v Speaker 1>body to its pre pregnancy state in a miraculous way.

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<v Speaker 1>He continued, saying the procedures provide an important opportunity for

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<v Speaker 1>the mother to get her pre pregnancy body back. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if this is being marketed at women or the

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<v Speaker 1>women's partners who want them to have this miraculous bounce back.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, as we talked about before red Flags, the

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<v Speaker 1>mention of how miraculous this makeover is. It just makes

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<v Speaker 1>me so mad because how dare a woman's body show

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<v Speaker 1>the signs that she has birth today child? And the

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<v Speaker 1>most disturbing part of this package is that they are

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<v Speaker 1>recommending that mothers come in six months after childbirth. That

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<v Speaker 1>is disgusting. I mean, they are just preying on women

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<v Speaker 1>who clearly are feeling very insecure their bodies have change.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the lowest of low. Well, it also says that

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<v Speaker 1>the mother can still get pregnant the year after the operation,

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<v Speaker 1>well following like a full lipost suction, tummy tuck. What

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<v Speaker 1>that says to me is yeah, full pregnant again, because

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll have you back in for another breastlift, lipos suction,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the works. They just want to fill their

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<v Speaker 1>pockets with money. Also, is the mom just meant to

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<v Speaker 1>leave after six months? Like where's the child when this

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<v Speaker 1>is happening? I mean, obviously their father or someone else

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<v Speaker 1>can look after the baby. But it all just sounds

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<v Speaker 1>very odd. Well, that's the thing. What mother of six

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<v Speaker 1>months really wants to fly to the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>the world without their newborn to have surgery. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of women are still breastfeeding as well. This is just insane.

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<v Speaker 1>This already says so much about how this clinic is run. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really intrigued to find doubt if this is a

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<v Speaker 1>contra agreement between the clinic and Sky, because the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that she has shared this reel says a lot. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>before she left, she also shared a self fee where

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<v Speaker 1>she was pouting and wrote snatched soon and then said,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, Turkey tomorrow and tagged doctor Fazbe's account.

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<v Speaker 1>She also has continued to tag his account throughout her

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<v Speaker 1>time in Turkey, and she has been sharing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about how the process works, which to me it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like there must be some sort of deal in place,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly because he is so savvy on social media. He

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<v Speaker 1>would know the reach and influence that Sky has. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's not a contra agreement, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>good for Sky's engagement because we often talk about influencers

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<v Speaker 1>who have babies, they suddenly gain a lot of followers.

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<v Speaker 1>This kind of extreme surgery and the fact that she's

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<v Speaker 1>traveling overseas will interest a lot of people, whether people

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<v Speaker 1>interested in the surgery themselves or they're just interested in

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<v Speaker 1>the I don't want to say was kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>watching a car crash because you just have a terrible

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<v Speaker 1>feeling in the pit of yourself that's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>turn out. Okay, Yeah, I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you guys about the products that I've been using

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<v Speaker 2>when my skin it needs an instant replump.

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<v Speaker 1>Just weeks after her much publicized breakup, Molly May Haig

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<v Speaker 1>has announced her biggest project to date. The UK influencer

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<v Speaker 1>has confirmed suspicions by dropping a clothing line called Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Now Amy one super sleuth cracked the code on the

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<v Speaker 1>secret project last week. Yeah, we spoke about this in

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<v Speaker 1>last week's episodes. So a super south called Luella came

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<v Speaker 1>across a Pinterest board she believed belonged to Molly May.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what she said.

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<v Speaker 2>It has clothing and spo So of course I went

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<v Speaker 2>over to Instagram and there was a new account that

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<v Speaker 2>is called Maybe and only had seventeen followers, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was only following one person, and of course the only

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<v Speaker 2>person it is following is Molly may So. I then

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<v Speaker 2>went on to.

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<v Speaker 1>This girl should consider a new career the FBI because

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<v Speaker 1>she on covered a store called Maybe listed on Trademark

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<v Speaker 1>UK's website and linked it back to one of Molly's

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<v Speaker 1>newly listed companies. A couple of days after Lluella created

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<v Speaker 1>her TikTok video, the Maybe Instagram account climbed over fifty

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<v Speaker 1>seven thousand followers. The clothing line seemed like a very

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<v Speaker 1>probable guest because Molly has proven that she can sell clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>She has had a long standing partnership with PLT and

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<v Speaker 1>she sold a fuck ton of clothing. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>she was really pissed off when this TikTok came out.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd be like, how do these people find out this information? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>especially only a week out now. On Sunday night, Molly

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<v Speaker 1>broke the news of her new clothing line by posting

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<v Speaker 1>a promotional reel with the caption twenty nine O nine

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, which is the date that the clothing goes live.

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<v Speaker 1>She also tagged the Maybe store Instagram handle, which was

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<v Speaker 1>the same account that the super Sleuth uncovered. She might

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<v Speaker 1>have been happy in a way that it already had

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<v Speaker 1>so many Instagram followers. Yeah, it's actually worked in her

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<v Speaker 1>favor because she's been sharing a lot of calls to

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<v Speaker 1>action on the Maybe Instagram account, and it would really

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<v Speaker 1>help that it now has tens of thousands of followers

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<v Speaker 1>at the get go? What did you think about this real?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it was shot in black and white and it

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<v Speaker 1>showed a lot of clips of Molly working behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to use this term, but she looked like

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<v Speaker 1>a real girl boss. Yeah I hate that term too,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, she was at the brand's photo shoot and

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<v Speaker 1>she looked like she was in charge directing the shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>She was overseeing the shoot and approving a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>photos on a laptop. There's then a moment where she

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<v Speaker 1>sits down in a director's chair and says this, have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever thought about launching a fashion brand? Maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't help, but notice that Molly looked a bit awkward

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<v Speaker 1>during the speaking part of this video, which made it

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<v Speaker 1>a bit more endearing. Do you know what, It's really

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<v Speaker 1>awkward when you have to say something in a video

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<v Speaker 1>but it's very short, like you know what you have

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<v Speaker 1>to say, like, oh, my name is Amy, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>really hard to say it naturally. Well, she's used to

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<v Speaker 1>speaking to a camera, but in this sense, she was

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<v Speaker 1>having to act as if she was being interviewed. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that's why it felt a little bit awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>I really love the way that they keep trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make it a plan words with maybe Yeah. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's really clever. A lot of fans also noticed that

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<v Speaker 1>Molly was wearing her very large engagement ring in the video,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is because it was filmed pre breakup. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if they considered reshooting this because her ring is

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<v Speaker 1>very prominent in this real I mean, I suppose it

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<v Speaker 1>just creates more engagement. I say. I think everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>probably tagging their friends going tod just see the engagement ring,

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<v Speaker 1>like coming back together for them, it's only a positive Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the Maybe Instagram account at the time of recording has

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<v Speaker 1>grown to four hundred and fifty five thousand followers, and

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<v Speaker 1>with so many followers already, they are using the site

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<v Speaker 1>to promote calls to action. As I mentioned, so they've

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<v Speaker 1>shared an Instagram story with a graphic saying maybe, just

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's everything you've been waiting for, and they then

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<v Speaker 1>urged customers to sign up to a mailing list to

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<v Speaker 1>get news of the first I have signed up immediately

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<v Speaker 1>the links. The link then also directs you to the

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe website where there were four black and white polaroids

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<v Speaker 1>of Molly wearing a white top and baggy pinstripe jeans

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<v Speaker 1>and it says the secret is out. So there are

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<v Speaker 1>a few little hints as to what you can expect

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<v Speaker 1>from this line and Maybe is already dominating on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>It's at one hundred and thirty one thousand followers and

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<v Speaker 1>I love it because Molly took the opportunity to make

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<v Speaker 1>light of this super sleuth revealing her project a week out.

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<v Speaker 1>So she shared a snippet from the promo video and

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<v Speaker 1>it shows her cracking up laughing with the caption three

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<v Speaker 1>years keeping Maybe a secret and you guys guessed it

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<v Speaker 1>with a week to go. And in the comments section,

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<v Speaker 1>the super sleuth Luella wrote, maybe I should be on

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<v Speaker 1>the team and that got eight thousand likes. Well, since

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<v Speaker 1>this launch, more super sleuths have been digging into this brand.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a shot. Every time we say super slit a

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<v Speaker 1>strong episode word sounds anyway. TikToker Flynn West, who has

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<v Speaker 1>over one hundred and three thousand follow and creates entertainment content.

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<v Speaker 1>Found leaked images of the collection and as expected, the

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<v Speaker 1>collection is very Molly May. So there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of oversized blazers, there's lots of neutrals and capsule pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sort of what you would expect, and it's nice

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<v Speaker 1>to see that the brand is stocking a variety of sizes.

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<v Speaker 1>It does seem to be on the more expensive side,

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<v Speaker 1>so Flynn revealed that a blazer will set you back

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty pounds, so that's three hundred Australian dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>We were debating that last week whether we thought she

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<v Speaker 1>would go high or low, and I'm actually glad that

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<v Speaker 1>she's got higher price points because I'm hoping that means

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<v Speaker 1>that these items are ethically sourced and maybe better quality

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<v Speaker 1>than some of the fast fashion style. Well, she kind

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<v Speaker 1>of had to come out with a more expensive line

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<v Speaker 1>because if it was too similar to PLT I think

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<v Speaker 1>that would have caused a few issues. Yeah. Well, Flynn

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<v Speaker 1>also dug a bit deeper to uncover that Alisha Diamond

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<v Speaker 1>is Molly's director of buying. So Alisha is the director

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<v Speaker 1>and co founder already of her own brand, and also

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<v Speaker 1>a buyer at a brand called the Carture Club. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Flynn jumped on the Carture Club's website and discovered that

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<v Speaker 1>a number of Molly's leaked outfits, as well as the

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<v Speaker 1>outfits shown in the promo video, look very similar to

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<v Speaker 1>pieces from the Carture Club, So he thinks that the

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<v Speaker 1>close for maybe are being supplied by the Carture Club. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just speculation because in my opinion, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these capsule neutral items all look the same. They're basics.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course they going to look quite similar now. The

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Tick Brigade, as always, was out in force to

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<v Speaker 1>congratulate Molly. Mollie's sisters that we wrote goosebumps every time,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go fairly love Islander. Moore Higgins wrote yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so proud of you my girl. Sofi Dofa also got

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<v Speaker 1>into the action, writing so ready. Notably, Tommy did not

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<v Speaker 1>like the post or comment. He is still following Molly,

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<v Speaker 1>but I kind of can understand why he didn't write anything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't want to make it all about you because

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<v Speaker 1>there'd be so much speculation. Now pretty little Thing was

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<v Speaker 1>also so notably absent from the comment section, and also

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<v Speaker 1>like section, which isn't really surprising as maybe is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a huge competitive for them, even though they

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<v Speaker 1>are going down a different route of pricing. Well have

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<v Speaker 1>you seen there's new rumors flying about Molly and Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>apparently getting back together. Well this has all happened on

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<v Speaker 1>the eve of her launching the fashion line. So the

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<v Speaker 1>tabloids in the UK started running with the story that

0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Molly and Tommy are rekindling their relationship. I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>headline and I was like bullshits. So the Sun ran

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<v Speaker 1>with the headline back on Molly and Tommy Fury are

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<v Speaker 1>spending romantic evenings together at four million Mansion as they

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<v Speaker 1>rekindle romance after split. So this publication claimed to have

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<v Speaker 1>intel from an insider, who of course was not named,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said that Molly and Tommy are finding their

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<v Speaker 1>way through their issues and that they are heading for

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<v Speaker 1>a full on reconciliation. Now, the unnamed source was quoted

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<v Speaker 1>as Sam saying it might come as a surprise to many,

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<v Speaker 1>but despite what may have gone on, they adore one another.

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<v Speaker 1>They as good as grew up together. They were barely

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<v Speaker 1>twenty when they met, and they have navigated the whole

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<v Speaker 1>fame thing together that bond and those times can never

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<v Speaker 1>be taken from them. They have had to see one

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<v Speaker 1>another because of Bambie, and that has been a good

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for them to have begun the process of getting

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<v Speaker 1>back together. They're enjoying quiet time away from the limelight.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that line is where you know that this is bullshit,

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<v Speaker 1>because neither of them are enjoying quiet time away from

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<v Speaker 1>the limelight. They are being followed by paparazzi, their names

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<v Speaker 1>are all over the press at the moment. I think

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<v Speaker 1>what's happened is Tommy has just been around a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to the house because he's been looking after Bamby, and

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<v Speaker 1>the press are just reading so much into it. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think it's a really mean headline because there are

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<v Speaker 1>so many people who have been upset by this breakup

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<v Speaker 1>and it's giving us all hope that they might get

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<v Speaker 1>back together when it's evident they're not going to. Molly's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to come on a platform and make this

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<v Speaker 1>big deal about breaking up and then a week later

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<v Speaker 1>get back with Tommy. Wells also been releasing these bizarre

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube videos. Yeah, he did a five minute video where

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<v Speaker 1>he asked his followers to come along as he did

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 1>a five k run and then he was trying some

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<v Speaker 1>spicy food challenge. It's really weird how he's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>launch his YouTube career off the back of this. I

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<v Speaker 1>also don't like that the media are running with this

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 1>headline on the eve of her project launching, because they

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<v Speaker 1>know that this supposed backflip is going to lead people

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<v Speaker 1>to think that this breakup is just a publicity stunt

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:37.680
<v Speaker 1>to promote her product. Well, maybe it's Tommy's PR team

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>that are pushing this story because Tommy has been copying

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 1>it in public. This kind of positive pr would be

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:45.439
<v Speaker 1>good for him. The thing that shit, though, is that

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:47.640
<v Speaker 1>it turns it on Molly may be as people are saying, oh,

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 1>you're toying with our emotions just so that you can

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<v Speaker 1>sell this product. And the media really are only putting

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 1>headlines out about this because they know that the Tommy

0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 1>and Molly's story gets clicks. They know that they need

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:02.160
<v Speaker 1>to change the narrow No one's interested in any more

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:05.439
<v Speaker 1>of these fake cheating allegations. They need to have a

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<v Speaker 1>twist in the story, and potentially that's them getting back together.

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<v Speaker 1>They also know that it's going to lead to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of negative comments towards Molly, which in turn leads

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<v Speaker 1>to engagement and more people clicking on the story and

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<v Speaker 1>them getting more ads.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to keep things private, but at the same time, like,

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm not here to like hide anything that's my girl.

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<v Speaker 1>The Internet went into meltdown late last week after images

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<v Speaker 1>of an alleged breakup contract between Taylor Swift and Travis

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<v Speaker 1>Kelsey's surfaced on Reddit. The document, purporting to be from

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<v Speaker 1>Travis's PR team, claimed the couple were set to split

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<v Speaker 1>on the twenty eighth of September twenty twenty four. Amy,

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<v Speaker 1>Can you tell us more about this supposed breakup contract? Yeah? So.

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<v Speaker 1>The document was entitled Comprehensive Media Plan for Travis Kelcey's

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<v Speaker 1>Public Relations Following Breakup with Taylor Swift. Now Emblazoned on

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<v Speaker 1>the front page was the logo of PR agency full Skar,

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:05.199
<v Speaker 1>which manages Travis. The document outlined a media strategy on

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<v Speaker 1>how to protect Travis's reputation following the supposed split and

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>how the firm would manage any negative press so. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of the key messages included highlighting that the breakup was

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<v Speaker 1>a mutual decision, emphasizing Travis's career achievements, and also stating

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the breakup would provide Travis and Taylor with the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>for personal growth. Everyone loves a bit of personal growth.

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<v Speaker 1>It even went as far as including a statement for

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<v Speaker 1>the media which read, Travis and Taylor have decided to

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<v Speaker 1>part ways after careful consideration. They both value and respect

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<v Speaker 1>each other's personal lives and appreciate your respect for privacy

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>during this time. Now, this was first posted on Reddit

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<v Speaker 1>after someone came across on Snapchat, and then Snapchat yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it was quickly picked up by the Daily

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<v Speaker 1>Mail and it is spread like wildfire. What did you

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>initially think when you saw the reports? Well, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there has always been a level of scal decism around

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 1>this relationship due to just how public it's been from

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<v Speaker 1>day one. But when I looked at this document, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't look like a real PR statement or strategy. It

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 1>sounds like it's been written by chat GPD. Yeah. A

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 1>lot of other people were saying it almost looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a high school assignment the way it's been written as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also weird because the media keep referring to it

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>as a breakup contract, but the whole document is actually

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>a PR strategy on how to deal with this break.

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not as catchy though, is it. No,

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 1>And it didn't take long for Travis's PR team to

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<v Speaker 1>label the documents as fake. So full Scope released a

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>statement saying the document is entirely false and fabricated, and

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 1>they also said it was not created, issued, or authorized

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>by their agency. They continued, we have engaged our legal

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 1>team to initiate proceedings against the individuals or entities responsible

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 1>for the unlawful and injurious forgery of document. This reminds

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 1>me of a story we covered a few years ago

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>where mea plus it was accused of forging legal documents.

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<v Speaker 1>So she allegedly found a legal logo which she slapped

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<v Speaker 1>on there in the header and foot her and it

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>just didn't read like a proper legal letter. I feel

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 1>like with chat GPT people would be abusing it a bit,

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>especially with legal type letters. Now, despite all of the denials,

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 1>many people are still questioning the validity of the contract,

0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>and this is due to media reports on full Scope's

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>founder Jake Keatson. So Keeterson has previously admitted to setting

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 1>up showmances in the past. He even wrote a book

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>about it and In twenty nineteen, he was interviewed on

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Mum and Me as the Quickie, where he explained how

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>showmancers work. So he told the podcast that he'd been

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 1>responsible for staging at least two relationships during his career.

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<v Speaker 1>He explained that in the past, a lot of these

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>fake relationships were used to cover up the fact a

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>popular actor might be gay, but now they're used to

0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 1>distract from negative press or purely to generate. That is

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting element because if you think about it, Travis's

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>career has really skyrocketed since he started dating Taylor Swift, because,

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>as we touched on last week, he's recently signed a

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>one hundred million dollar podcast deal. He's also done some

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 1>huge partnerships with Pepsi, and his star just seems to

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 1>be on the rise. I mean, I had no idea

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>who the guy was until I saw him on TikTok

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 1>talking about wanting to give Taylor Swift a friendship bracelet. Yeah.

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, for Taylor, it's not as if she needs

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Travis for publicity, but she was coming out of this

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>really bad breakup with Matt Healey, so I think Taylor

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 1>was happy to be seen out and about with another guy.

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>And also, if you think of the type of coverage

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Taylor and Travis were getting during the Super Bowl and

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>how that coincided with the Eras tour, it was literally

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>a PR dream for both of them. Yeah, well it

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 1>was the all American dream. It was the pop star

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>with the popular footy player. Well. Adding more fuel to

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>the fire are old reports which have resurfaced. So last year,

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<v Speaker 1>a well known twitch by the name of Cutie Cinderella

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 1>was interviewed on a podcast and she dropped some very

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 1>juicy details about Travis and Taylor. So she told the podcast,

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 1>here's some crazy hot tea. My makeup artist was doing

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>my makeup yesterday and I'm as swifty and I casually

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>bring her up in conversation and she's like, yeah, that's

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>a PR relationship. It's so crazy, And I was like,

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>with Travis Kelsey and she said yeah. She said the

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>makeup artist was friends with Travis's publicist. So the twitch

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>player said she questioned her further as to whether maybe

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 1>the relationship had started off as a PR relationship, but asked, well,

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 1>is it love now, and the makeup artist allegedly responded, no,

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to believe this. I know Now a

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are speculating that the publicist is Pierre

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Malahaih and she co founded full Scope in twenty twenty

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>two alongside Kettsen. Now interestingly, Pierre is rumored to be

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 1>dating Kansas City's chief player Sky Moore, and she got

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:01.959
<v Speaker 1>in hot water last year when she reshared a friend's

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>post on Instagram. So the photo in question was of

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>herself with Taylor Swift, but in the photo, Taylor's head

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 1>was covered by a clown emoji, and a lot of

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Swifties took great offense to this, so Pia's friend was

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>forced to apologize. She explained it wasn't meant to be

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>an insult and that she put the emoji on the

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>photo because she wanted to ensure the attention was on

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Peer for her birthday. The friend wrote, wrong choice of

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>birthday clown emoji nothing but love for Taylor. I don't

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 1>buy that for a second. If you didn't want to

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 1>take attention away from Peer on her birthday, then post

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>an individual photo with Pierre, not one with Taylor Swift dinner. Well,

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 1>knowing all that we know about the people that run

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>this PR business, do we really think that the pr

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 1>masterminds behind Taylor Swift would strike of a deal with

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>a PR firm like full Scope. No, I don't think

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 1>tree Paine would be getting involved with them at all,

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and I think that she would be telling Travis Kelsey

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>to find new management. Yeah, because their most famous client

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>other than Travis is probably Kristin Cavaliery and also Nick Carter.

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>And interestingly, many people believe that Kristin could also be

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 1>in a PR relationship because she's dating that twenty four

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>year old Montanner boy that TikToker. Kristin recently had her

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend Mark and her podcast and they did a say

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>it or Shot it game and it was quite awkward

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>because one of the questions was did you did it

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>put you off that Kristin was a lot older than

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 1>you and had kids And he just sounded like a

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 1>typical young guy. He's like, or do you really think

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>about it at all? And there was an awkward question

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>about kids, so he said that he does want kids.

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>But they have both said that they're not going to

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>speak about what the future holds for them because they've

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:40.479
<v Speaker 1>only been dating for six months and they don't want

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:42.239
<v Speaker 1>to put pressure on it. Well, it seems like This

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 1>relationship to Kristin is a bit of fun. She's coming

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 1>out of a divorce, so it's nice for her to

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>have this hot guy to be hanging out with. Now,

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>just back to Travis and Taylor. I think this whole

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>document is fake because even people magazine have gone as

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 1>far as to label this as a sam But I

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 1>want to know your thoughts, Sophie on Full Scope launching

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>legal action, because it really has drawn more attention to

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.319
<v Speaker 1>the story, and a lot of people have said, oh,

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't ignoring it like Taylor's team has done make it

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>seem less legitimate. I disagree. I think that they had

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:18.719
<v Speaker 1>to come out and show that they were serious about

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 1>this because this is someone who has stolen their logo.

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>They've slapped it on a fake document. It's also not

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>a good look for the company to appear as though

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 1>they have confidential documents just lying around the office to

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 1>be photographed on Snapchat. I also saw a distinct change

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>in the reporting of the matter, so so many publications

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>are now labeling the breakup contract as a fake, And

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 1>if Full Scope hadn't threatened legal action, I think many

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>publications would have continued to push the narrative that this

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 1>contract was legitimate. Well, they're probably also scared seeing that

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Travis Kelsey as signed a one hundred million dollar deal.

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he obviously has a lot of money he

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 1>can sue whoever he wants to sue. His goal friend

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 1>also is a billionaire. Well, Taylor seems to be really

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>unfazed by the whole thing. I mean, if you actually

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 1>believe The Daily Male's sources. Apparently one of them close

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 1>to Taylor said she was unbothered and quite amused by this.

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 1>She usually pays these things no mind at all, but

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>this was hilarious ai realness, it isn't even worth an

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>actual reaction from her all the team. The supposed source

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:25.839
<v Speaker 1>then went on to say that Taylor and Travis had

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 1>a good laugh about it and planned to mark the

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighth of September doing something special and fun to commemorate.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily think that Taylor would have been cool

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<v Speaker 1>about this. There's already so much speculation around their relationship. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's used to it. Every week there's a new

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<v Speaker 1>article about them, and they have really been showing this

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<v Speaker 1>united front since the story broke. But that to me

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<v Speaker 1>shows that they're bothered because they're saying, oh, yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mind, but literally they're making a huge effort to

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<v Speaker 1>be seen in public with one another. That wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>ideal either way, Like, if it was true, you'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck your stupid PR team our confidential documents

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<v Speaker 1>around And on the other hand, she's probably like, why

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<v Speaker 1>are people even questioning this? Why would we have a

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<v Speaker 1>fake relationship for so well, Taylor has made sure she's

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<v Speaker 1>looking hot when she's seen her in public with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved her two piece denim outfit that she wore

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<v Speaker 1>to one of the Chiefs Games. She was also spotted

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<v Speaker 1>supporting US tennis player Taylor Fritz at the US Open

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<v Speaker 1>with Travis Kelsey. It looked as if Gucci had vomited

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<v Speaker 1>over here. He had a Gucci bucket, had a Gucci top.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people were saying in the comments, just

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<v Speaker 1>because it's expensive, it doesn't mean that looks good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he looked like a bit of a fashion victim, didn't he?

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<v Speaker 1>But Taylor looked great well. They were also sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>the box with them a home, so apparently Taylor is

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<v Speaker 1>good friends with Patrick's wife, Britney, and at one point

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<v Speaker 1>Travis and Taylor were shown singing along to I Believe

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<v Speaker 1>In a Thing Called Love and they were literally screaming

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<v Speaker 1>to each other. Yeah. But the best part about that

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<v Speaker 1>was you could see in the clip Britney turned to

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes and be like, what is this song? Because

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<v Speaker 1>it's an older song? Like, they look so confused. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to know what everyone thinks in our Facebook community.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that this contract is fake? Well that

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