WEBVTT - #4 - Neroli Meadows

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Mason Cox Show. Now today we've

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<v Speaker 1>got one of my favorite people in media. She is

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<v Speaker 1>a lovely, lovely lady. She's actually one of my mom's

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<v Speaker 1>favorite people, and I think she messages my mom back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth on Twitter. But we'll give it a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a background. She's nine years at Fox Sports, AFL

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<v Speaker 1>cricket basketball, worked across all different sports. Started in Perth

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<v Speaker 1>Radio at six PR in two thousand and six Tonight

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<v Speaker 1>sorry today tonight for seven Network before the Game? Have

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<v Speaker 1>you been paying attention? Also was on the Footy Show

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<v Speaker 1>with myself back in twenty nineteen, and she's also worked

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<v Speaker 1>for things like the Australian Open. She's an absolute legend

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<v Speaker 1>people really breaking the stigma I feel like a female

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<v Speaker 1>in sport and commentating. She's one of the OG's, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best that's ever done it. We've got nearly meadows.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. That was a very kind intro.

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<v Speaker 2>I take that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. Well, you've got an impressive resume, I must say.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was ignorant come to this country, but I

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<v Speaker 1>love the fact that you are. I feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind, probably the number one person I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I've got along with probably on air whenever I

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<v Speaker 1>do things in the media. I feel like you're very

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you've got the podcast ordinarily speaking, which we'll talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all about kind of mental health and showing

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<v Speaker 1>a different side of athletes. And for some reason, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, maybe you can maybe give me a bit

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<v Speaker 1>more intro on it is You're very good at being

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<v Speaker 1>able to get people to open up to you. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you're a very calming personality. You know your stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what's gotten you really well in that in

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<v Speaker 1>your career. But I feel like you're just a person

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone loves to be around, and it's just an

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyable person to have on the podcast. I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I just get that audio clip? My ring tone one?

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<v Speaker 1>I love it? Brand can give it to you?

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<v Speaker 2>That is very kind of you, Thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>And yes, your mom does I do love your mom

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<v Speaker 3>because I think I interviewed your parents who managed to

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<v Speaker 3>make it via deboot game and it was antag day right,

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<v Speaker 3>and your mom was just such an absolute sweetheart, and

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<v Speaker 3>then from there she's just loves it, followed what I've

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<v Speaker 3>done and sort of sends messages of support.

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<v Speaker 1>Does my mom d.

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<v Speaker 3>Has DMD me, but mostly it's published. Sorry you to

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<v Speaker 3>be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's better. My mom's a lovely lady, but the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that she's dming friends of mine and her colleagues

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<v Speaker 1>of mine is very questionable. No, I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>She she's amazing and she's such a supportive woman. I

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<v Speaker 3>think just in general. And yeah, like you say, I

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<v Speaker 3>think she recognized.

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<v Speaker 2>Early days that I was more of a human.

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<v Speaker 3>Story type journalist and she jumped on ball with that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love your mom. She's absolutely fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's going to love this, no doubt, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>She was asking about I told her I was getting

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<v Speaker 1>you on. She was very excited for this. So she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be very excited for this podcast and what

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<v Speaker 1>we go through. Big shout out to Jay Cox. We

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<v Speaker 1>love her on the pod. You're going to get a

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<v Speaker 1>DM within the week. I guarantee it.

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<v Speaker 3>Next time I'm in the States, I'm just gonna like

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<v Speaker 3>the house.

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<v Speaker 1>She will full kit out the whole house ready for

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<v Speaker 1>you to go down, will cook a barbecue. It'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a whole thing. I'm telling you, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>narrowly is week in Dallas. Taxes the biggest week of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, probably better and me coming back. In all honesty,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll jump in that. We'll talk about your early life.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're born and raised in Collie, w a outside

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<v Speaker 1>Maga River. Now, Mogo River's on my top list of

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<v Speaker 1>places I haven't been yet too.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to go. I go at least every every year.

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<v Speaker 3>My best mate lives there and works a vast Felix winery,

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<v Speaker 3>which is one of the top notch wineries.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it is, and I was there just a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, it's top pless a top thing to do in

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<v Speaker 1>my river besides go to the winery.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I go to the wineries.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the beaches are fantastic, but the long lunches

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<v Speaker 3>that you can have with you know, with your mates

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<v Speaker 3>is just like it's the stuff that you make memories

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<v Speaker 3>out of.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just an epic place to be. Beautiful coastline, beautiful cafes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love very relaxing holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>Very relaxing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's that it's that beautiful sort of bush meets ocean aussieva.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, So did you say Collie is the bush side?

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<v Speaker 2>So Collie is inland.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're about forty five minutes inland from Bumbry and

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<v Speaker 3>as we got teased back in the day, you go

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<v Speaker 3>up hill to go down a hole. Yeah, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>a beautiful town Collie, some amazing little water spots and

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<v Speaker 3>everything like that, and a great outdoor town, so big

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<v Speaker 3>sporting town, country town sort of every you know, everywhere

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<v Speaker 3>had to like a network club and a footy club

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<v Speaker 3>and that sort of thing. So had an unbelievable out

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<v Speaker 3>bringing because we had a little hobby farm, five acre

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<v Speaker 3>hobby farm because that's how my dad grew up on

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<v Speaker 3>a farm. So yeah, we had everything like a third

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<v Speaker 3>of a basketball court and all like sort of Dad

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<v Speaker 3>made it like it's not fancy stuffy, yeah, amazing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like marion ponds.

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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't know what a marin is? Would you give me?

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<v Speaker 1>Give me in Australian says I need to learn this,

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<v Speaker 1>so you please please inform me.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of at don't know either because it's from

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<v Speaker 3>that region. So it's basically freshwater crayfish. It's delicious, delicious,

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<v Speaker 3>but really really hard to get, really expensive. But we

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<v Speaker 3>grew up marining and on that little bit of river

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<v Speaker 3>and we had marin ponds and stuff like that. So yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and like little cricket setup and basketball and netball. We

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<v Speaker 3>had a bit of everything. So it was an epic

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<v Speaker 3>place to grow up. Yeah, I was very lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you did you play sports growing up? Like? What

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<v Speaker 1>was your top sport?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've dabbled in different sports growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people do. They play different sports.

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<v Speaker 1>They kind of find their niche and go towards it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what was your niche sport that you loved?

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<v Speaker 3>Basketball was always my favorite, Like, if I could have

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<v Speaker 3>chosen a career, I would have been a professional.

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<v Speaker 1>Basket on my shout out You've got the Valley T

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<v Speaker 1>shirt too. She's a fair say she's a fan of

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA and a fan of the Suns.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, yeah, and Da signed on, so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>happy we kept the boys together.

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<v Speaker 2>So another.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, she's really investigating.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when the siblings grew.

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<v Speaker 3>Really glad gets on a high is when there's signing

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<v Speaker 3>news the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Family, whole family supported someone. Yeah, so how did that

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<v Speaker 1>come to it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, basically, my oldest brothers five and a half years

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<v Speaker 3>older than me and in the early nine Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 3>Ross Ross, Yeah, yeah, so ross. He played hockey for

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<v Speaker 3>Australia and he's now a teacher and he was so

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<v Speaker 3>he always set the standard with sport in our family.

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<v Speaker 3>And he yet loved Charles Barkley as so many people

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<v Speaker 3>did back in the day and just hardcore went in

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<v Speaker 3>on the Suns and so we followed him basically as

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the younger brother and sister do. And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>thirty plus years on and we went and watched them

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<v Speaker 3>live when I was twelve, and that were crap.

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<v Speaker 1>I was, they were great. That was confused while you

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<v Speaker 1>were actually so excited as Chris came around, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like things turned around.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's so exciting now to actually be in and

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<v Speaker 3>amongst it. Obviously it was devastating this year to get

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<v Speaker 3>knocked out and not get that run at the actual

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<v Speaker 3>final series. But we're going to talk about but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I got the opportunity when I was covering the Super

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl and All Star NBA All Star Weekend earlier this year,

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<v Speaker 3>I did like a sort of twenty two hour stopover

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<v Speaker 3>in Phoenix to watch them, and I dropped a k

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<v Speaker 3>at the Suns.

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<v Speaker 1>Star thousand dollars of American dollars Okay, so like twenty bucks,

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<v Speaker 1>that's too bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, because obviously I got my two big brothers, five

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<v Speaker 3>nieces and nephews, so myself.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of colleagues.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, it's hard to.

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<v Speaker 3>Come by, although it's easier now because they're actually good,

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<v Speaker 3>but for years, you can get anything. So I was

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<v Speaker 3>the full blown uffew with two bags of merch watching

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<v Speaker 3>the game by myself. But anyway, my brothers appreciated it,

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<v Speaker 3>and my eldest brother, Ross, who I got the DeAndre

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<v Speaker 3>eight and shirt for, so he's very.

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<v Speaker 2>Relieved that da Is signed off huge.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, so I played basketball, but as I say,

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<v Speaker 3>I was always too short, too slow, and just not

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<v Speaker 3>good enough to play for a living.

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<v Speaker 2>So I decided to watch for a living instead.

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<v Speaker 1>A celebrity termament or something. I feel like you'd probably

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<v Speaker 1>would just be that secret, just undercover person that rolls

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<v Speaker 1>in just she dominates no one expects. It's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit shorter side like we own. She just absolute

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<v Speaker 1>murders everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>I am the person that does all the one percent

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<v Speaker 3>is because I'm no good at anything else. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>setting the screens. I'm doing like hard day, I'm like

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<v Speaker 3>delivandover without being able to shoot basically.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that was my college career of basketball. So

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<v Speaker 1>you've really summed it up in one. Now you talked

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<v Speaker 1>about Ross. You've got another brother, Ian who this is

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting kind of like fun fact. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>about Ian. I was on Home and Away and we're

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<v Speaker 1>recently talking about this. He also had a Netflix series

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<v Speaker 1>come out, which is I love to hear it because

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<v Speaker 1>I know you love your family. I love my family.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about already, but you're really in doing some

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<v Speaker 1>very unique things that my people probably didn't know that you.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we're related or maybe like you had their

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<v Speaker 1>connection to him and what he's doing now in like

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<v Speaker 1>the Netflix series and everything else. So tell us a

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<v Speaker 1>bit about that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's funny because Home and Away, obviously you know

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's in the institution in Australia, but also in

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<v Speaker 3>like the UK and places like that, and his storyline

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<v Speaker 3>is still to this day one of the most popular

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<v Speaker 3>storylines that ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Existed on the channel.

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<v Speaker 1>Will give it to us, what is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Sally?

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<v Speaker 1>Sally?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone who.

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<v Speaker 3>Sally is Kate Richie and she basically just grew up

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<v Speaker 3>on the show and no he didn't collect. But the

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<v Speaker 3>cliffhanger for the summer was will Sally survived it. And

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when he first got that storyline, he sort

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<v Speaker 3>of he was like, You're never going to believe this.

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<v Speaker 2>I stabbed Sally.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get the did you get like the inside Infhon?

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<v Speaker 1>And You're like, I'm literally sworn to secrecy. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>sell anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm quite good at that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have Sally what known for.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually more people know him for a show called

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<v Speaker 3>The Moodies and a Moody Christmas, which has sort of

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<v Speaker 3>become a cult classic on the ABC and and a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of families watch it as their family tradition now.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's this amazing comedy show on the ABC. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's funny because he gets recognized most of that. And

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<v Speaker 3>we were at the footage just the other week and

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<v Speaker 3>somebody came up to him, Dad Moody. And one of

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<v Speaker 3>the almost most embarrassing moments of my life was when

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<v Speaker 3>Frio made it to the twenty thirt and Grand Final,

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<v Speaker 3>when I took my brother, even though he's a West

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<v Speaker 3>Coast supporter, as my plus one, and somebody came up

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<v Speaker 3>to us outside the mcg and said, oh, my god,

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<v Speaker 3>can I get a photo?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was this, like so close.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it was in context at the MCG, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was you or him though, I was I was this.

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<v Speaker 2>Close saying you, no worries.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he turns to my brother and says, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a massive fan of the movies.

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<v Speaker 1>And so good also degrading for you. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, I don't really want I was.

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<v Speaker 3>So relieved that I didn't say yeah, no worries or

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<v Speaker 3>how embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard people be like, oh I can I get

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<v Speaker 1>a photo? And then it's like to the person next

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<v Speaker 1>to me and then they just hand me the phone

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like the best, Yeah, yeah, we'll do all right.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, And so he's he's created a show called

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<v Speaker 3>r FDS, which was a big success on Channel seven

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<v Speaker 3>as well. We sort of wrote and created that and

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<v Speaker 3>it's been renewed for a second season and clickbait. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's doing stuff, which is awesome. I'm really proud of

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<v Speaker 3>him because it's it's obviously a really tough industry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's crazy, come all the way from Collie to

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<v Speaker 1>to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Big smoke of Yeah, it's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the thing, like RFTS is all about telling

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<v Speaker 3>those sort of outback stories of Australia and telling them

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<v Speaker 3>in a really compelling way, because I think a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the time, you know, it's the same as the

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<v Speaker 3>States in a way, like people refer to rural places

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<v Speaker 3>in a kind of dismissive or Hicksville kind of way, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, and it's just not true.

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<v Speaker 3>Like there are so many amazing people who live in

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<v Speaker 3>the country that just didn't want to live in the

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<v Speaker 3>city and that doesn't make them dumb or whatever. Like

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<v Speaker 3>so I think, you know, the beauty of the storytelling

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<v Speaker 3>that he's doing is pretty cool because it is those

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<v Speaker 3>inclusive sort of stories and a.

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<v Speaker 1>Small town like family type place, you know, everyone knows everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that of like maybe colors like this you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Minor River. You like walk into a place,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you had your local cafe here, and I

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<v Speaker 1>walked in and you like instantly knew who the person

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<v Speaker 1>was that was behind. I was like, I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to introduce anyone Like this is like.

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<v Speaker 3>Like all our friends are so tall, and like not

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<v Speaker 3>this tall.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think I'm on the higher end of the structure,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, no, it's I love that kind of family

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<v Speaker 1>feel like something in Australia. I've noticed as people here

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<v Speaker 1>very generous and just very caring and like everyone's a

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<v Speaker 1>family here. It's kind of a weird, weird thing to

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<v Speaker 1>I guess so much try to describe to people, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of been my experience. I feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>Australian culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like the mate ship.

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<v Speaker 3>And so Dad was the country doctor and he had

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<v Speaker 3>quite a unique land Cruiser car.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a unique color. No one else in town

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<v Speaker 2>had it, so every time it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was like sort of this brownie sort of tinge but

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<v Speaker 3>nothing fancy, but no one else had it. And because

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<v Speaker 3>we were in the town of just under ten thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and when we were learning to drive, if you were

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<v Speaker 3>behind his car, you had to do the two fingerways single.

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<v Speaker 1>Country.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's like Dad's car. So yes, the two finger

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledgement off the steering wheel.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're all lazy, just the one. Yes, it's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that full blown country thing that you've got

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<v Speaker 3>to say hello to everyone and.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be in the small town doctor, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be the most important person in the town.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So the year before me, my year and the year

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<v Speaker 3>after me, he was the only doctor doing obstetric So

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<v Speaker 3>if you're my age, you were delivered by my dad.

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<v Speaker 3>I was delivered by my dad in our house.

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<v Speaker 1>How many deliveries you reckon?

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<v Speaker 2>He's done I think like a couple of thousand over

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<v Speaker 2>the years.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's delivered like a tenth of the town. Probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he's moved on.

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<v Speaker 3>He's moved on from from Collin now they now live

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<v Speaker 3>in Perth. But yeah, I mean a big chunk of it,

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<v Speaker 3>Like he's either he's and there's a few people that

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<v Speaker 3>he delivered both generations, which is which is pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think the country GPS get enough credit

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<v Speaker 3>as well, because everything that they do it impacts them.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they know the people they're dealing with. And

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<v Speaker 3>mum was the psychologist in town and dad was the

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<v Speaker 3>country doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>So smart family.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I'm a real letdown.

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<v Speaker 1>I just watched that's what you're going to say next.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, I'm not a doctor or a lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>into psychology, but I think you're the most well known

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<v Speaker 1>person of the Meadows family. I mean, look, just say yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I now, I'll take it. I'll take it. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for the compliment. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>May be advantage of India that my brother, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the most followers of everyone. I would say that,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just go with that. I do want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you something because you had an experience that I've had.

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<v Speaker 1>You went to university in America at the University of Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>Go balls because of the balls. Bright unch.

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<v Speaker 2>Be a Tennessee ball.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. I did not. I've been it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask you. Obviously going to university, you've probably

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<v Speaker 1>been to a football game. Tennessee balls, massive, massive stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure how many they would fit. There be

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<v Speaker 1>coursed off. One hundred and.

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<v Speaker 3>Four thousand, I think from memory Nayland's scene. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's sold out pretty much every game. And they were

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<v Speaker 3>pretty crap when I was there. It was Phil Former

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<v Speaker 3>and they couldn't pick a quarterback and it was hilarious

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<v Speaker 3>because I was doing an internship at the local TV

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<v Speaker 3>station and they obviously loved the fact that it was

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<v Speaker 3>a chick from Australia who loved sport. And I remember

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<v Speaker 3>turning to them going what they need to pick and stick?

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<v Speaker 3>Like they keep swapping between quarterbacks and they're like even.

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<v Speaker 2>Though the shit again, so why do they not get it?

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of thing? But yeah, it was an unbelievable experience.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your favorite, Like, I know, obviously you've got

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama is probably like one of the biggest games you

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<v Speaker 1>will probably play, But was there any experiences that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stick out in your mind of like college, because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like a lot of people in Australia don't

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<v Speaker 1>quite understand it and it's tough to describe it until

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<v Speaker 1>you've actually experienced it firsthand. Of the tailgating the game

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<v Speaker 1>being amateur level, but having is just as much, if

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<v Speaker 1>not more, actual supporters. Like, yeah, it's kind of tough

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<v Speaker 1>to get your head wrapped around it. Like give me

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<v Speaker 1>a I guess, some way to maybe describe it in

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<v Speaker 1>your words of the college experience back in the US.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it's it's like every movie you've ever seen,

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<v Speaker 3>and then some it's it's like the movies actually happened. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's it's like On Royd's kind of thing. So

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<v Speaker 3>like a couple of experiences that I had. Kenny Rogers

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<v Speaker 3>came and played at halftime and played the Gambler and

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<v Speaker 3>the band spelled out Kenny with their bodies there were

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<v Speaker 3>I wex you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know after every touchdown.

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<v Speaker 3>Peyton Manning because he was a role He had his

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<v Speaker 3>jersey retired homecoming.

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<v Speaker 2>While I was there and gave it the older. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be remembered. It was a great football.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to be remembered. It was a great

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<v Speaker 2>man to play football. And everyone's just like.

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<v Speaker 1>Loses their mind.

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<v Speaker 3>The icons of every exactly, the icon of exactly. And

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<v Speaker 3>Candice Parker as well, from her basketball perspective, she was around,

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<v Speaker 3>she was playing when I was there.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know where, but his basketball be a massive there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well there's the basketball stadium is about twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>thousand capacity as well. So yeah, just an epic life experience.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, loved every every second of it. So but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the tailgating, all of that, it's it's very much real.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very much rare. I feel like it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bucket list starting for people. They need to experience

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<v Speaker 1>it before you have to do it firsthand. Like you

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<v Speaker 1>can't like people can talk about tailor getting, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>literally you could walk up in the middle of a

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<v Speaker 1>football game, not I know anyone in the like the

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<v Speaker 1>parking lot and just walk through and people like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>have a sausage, have a hamburger. Come in. There's like

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<v Speaker 1>six TVs underneath like a gazebo, and everyone's got satellite

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<v Speaker 1>TV watching together. It's just a weird experience in general.

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<v Speaker 2>And the hatred.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's been like Collingwood Carlton, like Alabama and

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<v Speaker 3>Tennessee for example, Like my mom's best mate is from

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<v Speaker 3>Alabama and she's constantly buying my family merch and you

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<v Speaker 3>know roll Tide role and I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, stop wearing it. Your blood went to Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 3>We go for the voles like this is offensive, but

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<v Speaker 3>they just they don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not you have no idea how I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama next level, like they're just the top tier of

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<v Speaker 1>the top tier. But awesome experience. I love whenever people

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<v Speaker 1>talk about your college and you can't dive too much

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<v Speaker 1>into it because I'm sure you had some fun in college.

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<v Speaker 3>I drank more in that six months than I did

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<v Speaker 3>probably the rest of your life. And it's hilarious because

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<v Speaker 3>I was nineteen when I went over there, so I.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't legal, but i'd been leaving this well. I had

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<v Speaker 2>been legal in at for like almost two years.

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<v Speaker 3>And turned twenty over there, so I had to use

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<v Speaker 3>a fake ID, and I used the ID of a

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<v Speaker 3>woman called Anally up a friend of mine. She was

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<v Speaker 3>from Estonia. And this is a classic passport. No, it

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<v Speaker 3>was like a driver's license. And I'm sorry to say,

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<v Speaker 3>but most Americans didn't know what the hell Estonia was,

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<v Speaker 3>so I just told them it was a state of

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<v Speaker 3>Australia and they were fine with that. Didn't work for

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<v Speaker 3>me was when one guy said, I mean the same

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<v Speaker 3>class as Anally, So this I know it's not you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but I put on the freshman fifteen. But in my

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<v Speaker 3>senior year, like I came home and I mean over there,

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<v Speaker 3>I was hot with an accent.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of thing. And I came home and I was just.

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<v Speaker 3>Really white in the middle of the Australian summer, overweight,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just came in with my two giants suitcases,

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<v Speaker 3>said I had a well inside.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I love that. You just told us

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<v Speaker 1>you just literally did something illegal on the podcast, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I right, my mom listens to this podcast, so I

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<v Speaker 1>have not mother. I love you very much. Every once

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<v Speaker 1>or twice we'll tell that story, Thanks Nolan. Now we'll

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<v Speaker 1>move into obviously you've got your own podcasts ordinarily speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got some amazing people on there. Some some

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<v Speaker 1>people obviously you're mastermin cricket with the stuff you do there,

0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:35.400
<v Speaker 1>and you've got some amazing people have come on. I've

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<v Speaker 1>listened to your AFL side of things too. What is

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite thing about having your own podcasts? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously it's great having your own speaking about different subjects

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<v Speaker 1>and topics you want, But what's your personally your favorite

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<v Speaker 1>thing about doing it?

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<v Speaker 3>Getting the feedback from people that it's actually helped them, Because,

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<v Speaker 3>as you said earlier, my podcast is sort of a

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<v Speaker 3>really heavy focus on mental health and overcoming adversity and

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<v Speaker 3>resilience and celebrating that resilience and the human stories of athletes.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I don't think we do that enough.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a really critical industry a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the time, and particularly in AFL, and I like to

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<v Speaker 3>celebrate people, and I think it's really inspiring when people

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<v Speaker 3>see athletes as human beings and realize that what.

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<v Speaker 2>You've achieved is achievable for them too.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not so when you get feedback, like for example,

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<v Speaker 3>I did one with Greg Higher and he received a

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<v Speaker 3>message and he put it on Instagram that said and

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<v Speaker 3>trigger warning here for anyone who's listening, but it basically said,

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<v Speaker 3>I was driving home to end my life and I

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<v Speaker 3>listened to your podcast and it saved my life. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>still here and I get goosebumps when I sort of

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<v Speaker 3>relay that story because that's through the strength of Greg having,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the ability to share his story publicly, and

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<v Speaker 3>his motivation is to help people, and anyone who comes

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<v Speaker 3>on the podcast that at the end of the day

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<v Speaker 3>is their motivation. You know, you recognize that as an

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<v Speaker 3>elite athlete, you do have an opportunity to help people

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<v Speaker 3>in whatever way it is. So I think for me

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<v Speaker 3>that's the most rewarding thing. But there's also laughs and

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<v Speaker 3>there's lighter moments as well, because that's humanity, right even

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<v Speaker 3>in the darkest moments, we have that humor, and especially

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<v Speaker 3>in Australia, I think you probably would have found that

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<v Speaker 3>that will make light of everything and anything. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's my favorite thing is because I set out to

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<v Speaker 3>humanize athletes and help people listening, and so when you

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<v Speaker 3>achieve what you set out, it's a really rewarding feeling,

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<v Speaker 3>especially when it's your passion project.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's no money out of it or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just my passion project of you know, I love

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<v Speaker 3>doing in depth interviews. Grew up with a mum that's

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<v Speaker 3>a psychologist, so I learned really early on about you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the importance of silence and listening and empathy and to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to meld all my sort of worlds together,

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<v Speaker 3>of having that passion for psychology, having the passion for sport,

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<v Speaker 3>but ultimately seeing myself as a storyteller. It's it's awesome

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to use all those facets and hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>try and help people.

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<v Speaker 2>She loves it. Yeah, and she actually it's quite funny.

0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:17.199
<v Speaker 2>She will often that was a great question. That was

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<v Speaker 2>a really good hollow up question there.

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<v Speaker 3>Or I loved how you left that silence there, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of the time I will call mum

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<v Speaker 3>and I think this is really important too, to debrief

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<v Speaker 3>because sometimes it's really heavy and you need to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to talk to somebody to be able to go

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<v Speaker 3>bloody hell, mom, like he just said, X, Y and

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<v Speaker 3>Z A Like, I don't even know if this is

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<v Speaker 3>ever going to go to air because it's so intimate

0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:42.399
<v Speaker 3>what he shared, and you know, sometimes people like regret

0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:44.440
<v Speaker 3>stuff and say, oh, I don't actually want that out there.

0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:48.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that was the Ryan Brockoff episode, and he did.

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<v Speaker 3>He was fine with it being out there. He just

0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 3>wanted to check with his family. So everything actually has

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<v Speaker 3>gone to air. But that's another thing that I sort

0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:58.520
<v Speaker 3>of when you're doing something independently, you can guarantee people

0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:01.119
<v Speaker 3>if you change your mind or whatever.

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:03.040
<v Speaker 2>I have all the control here.

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:04.879
<v Speaker 3>There's no boss telling me no, no, we have to

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<v Speaker 3>use this, or we're going to promo this or whatever,

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:10.120
<v Speaker 3>and so it just gives an extra layer of security

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 3>I think for people that they can trust what their

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<v Speaker 3>words will end up sounding like. And like I say,

0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:22.520
<v Speaker 3>when you give people that level of assurance, it's amazing

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<v Speaker 3>what they then feel comfortable sharing with you. And I've

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<v Speaker 3>never had somebody say I don't want to answer that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've never had somebody say I want you to

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<v Speaker 3>take that piece out, And I think it's because they

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<v Speaker 3>trust the intention behind the podcast in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you create that safe space for someone to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to properly open up and tyrte things that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times, like I feel like you just keep

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>it and bottle it up for a long time and

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:45.359
<v Speaker 1>then eventually you get to the point you're like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe this actually can help someone else in the same

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<v Speaker 1>situation or whatever it may be. And you know, some

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:52.840
<v Speaker 1>people put I guess, athletes and people on a paddestal one.

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, we're just normal humans.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone is human, everyone's the same, come from the same makeup,

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<v Speaker 1>and to think that sometimes people get idolized to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where they think that they don't have the human

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<v Speaker 1>experiences that other people do.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>And the point that you just made there is something

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<v Speaker 3>that really matters to me is a lot of people

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:14.159
<v Speaker 3>find it a cathartic experience. I have people, you know,

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 3>guess who end up thanking me for what I've given them,

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:22.280
<v Speaker 3>or family members, which is even more incredible when you

0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:26.239
<v Speaker 3>hear from a family member, And yeah, I think that

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:28.600
<v Speaker 3>is really important to me, and I lose a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of sleep over how will this be viewed? Will that

0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:33.400
<v Speaker 3>person regret saying that?

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<v Speaker 1>Will?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>I think about the impact on their lives, and I

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 3>think that's why no one has ever regretted, because I

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<v Speaker 3>sort of think through all of that and the potential

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 3>to cause harm run than do good.

0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that cathartic nature.

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 3>I would hate it if somebody regretted doing an interview

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:52.439
<v Speaker 3>with me, whether it's a podcast or on air or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I that to me would just be the worst thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Non, I want to ask you this in the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had one episode that you would want someone

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to. I know this is gonna be tough

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:05.400
<v Speaker 1>for you to answer because all these people are probably

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<v Speaker 1>your friends. Now one podcast episode you could promote to

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<v Speaker 1>say this is what it's all about? Which one would

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<v Speaker 1>it be?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It is so hard because they're all so unique and

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<v Speaker 3>interesting and.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I love them for different reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>But still one of my favorites I think will always

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<v Speaker 3>be Peter Siddle, which was one of the earliest ones

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<v Speaker 3>I did because he was, you know, and still is

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<v Speaker 3>a friend of mine. I'm going to be catching up

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<v Speaker 3>with him in the in the UK next week and

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<v Speaker 3>so for your knowledge, he's a former Test cricketer.

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<v Speaker 1>Cricket, by the way, Creet does not know much about it,

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<v Speaker 1>So Peter Sile give you an idea cricket.

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<v Speaker 3>Well as a Victorian and Australian. Now, Peter Sitle is

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<v Speaker 3>it an important but he was also a good friend

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<v Speaker 3>of mine, and I sort of said to him, would

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 3>you be willing to come on this podcast? And I'm

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:04.439
<v Speaker 3>starting out and it didn't exist at the time, and

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:06.399
<v Speaker 3>so you're kind of just hoping, you know. Adam Trelaw

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 3>was another one former teammate of yours early days who

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 3>came on and I said to him, you know, would

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:14.400
<v Speaker 3>you be willing to talk about when you gave up drinking?

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Because he's a total teetotaler now and has been for now,

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 3>it's about ten years. I said, the frame of mind

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 3>that you were in when you gave up drinking and

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 3>why you did so, and I really know the answer

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 3>to it, and he hadn't told anyone publicly, and he

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:30.920
<v Speaker 3>he said, yeah, I'm willing to do that because I

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<v Speaker 3>think it will help people. And he is such a happy,

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<v Speaker 3>go lucky guy, kind of similar personality to you, actually,

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:39.160
<v Speaker 3>like just the outgoing sort of you know it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>drink but can still stay out until two o'clock in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning, because he's just a people person kind of guy.

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 3>And he came on the podcast and just poured his

0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:51.640
<v Speaker 3>heart out and was so open about so many things.

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:55.400
<v Speaker 3>And it hit me in a way because I think

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:57.400
<v Speaker 3>because I was friends with him, and I didn't really

0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 3>know what was about to transpire. And and I think

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 3>that podcast has helped a lot of people.

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 2>That's another one that I have got a lot of

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:05.679
<v Speaker 2>feedback on.

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 3>And you know, one guy said, this is the podcast

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 3>I needed to hear right now I'm trying to give

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:15.360
<v Speaker 3>up drinking. My family doesn't understand, but I've been able

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.880
<v Speaker 3>to send them this podcast and say this is why

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:21.199
<v Speaker 3>he's speaking on behalf of me almost, And so it

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 3>becomes this tool sort of as a communication tool for

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.640
<v Speaker 3>other people. And there's times where my friends are going

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 3>through stuff and I can say, hey, listen to the

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 3>Kate Campbell episode because she articulates it so beautifully.

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:33.479
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's going to really help you.

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 3>So if something can become like an actual tool like that,

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 3>it's pretty awesome, I think. But yeah, the SIDS one

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:42.360
<v Speaker 3>is still one of my personal favorites.

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 2>But it's hard.

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 3>It's like choosing your favorite kid.

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was going to say, like favorite movie, but yes,

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:51.880
<v Speaker 1>favorite kid. Yeah, that's that's totally the same. We all

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 1>know a mom don't have a favorite child. Though, Let's

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>be honest, it's my brother at the moment. It's not me.

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 1>It's back in America. They're like, I haven't.

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Produced any grandkids. Way down the TI.

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<v Speaker 3>My mum does tell me that my stories are way

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<v Speaker 3>more interesting to see.

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 1>My most is the same thing. I think that's the

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>way of saying, like, we love you, but you're just

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 1>not that, just not you know, at the top of.

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 3>The tod As mum would always say when we brought

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 3>our projects home as kids, it's got character it.

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. We'll talk

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>about a bit of your your career, and we briefly

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 1>mentioned this because cricket obviously, I think a lot of

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.119
<v Speaker 1>people know. Not being Australian, I'm a bit ignorant as well.

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Some people might say I've tried to learn. I've tried

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>to learn, don't get me wrong, but this is what

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 1>you're doing now, and you're traveling the world doing it

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>like you're going to Pakistan, going to India. You're going

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>over the world and covering cricket and one of the

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 1>craziest places and I just want to kind of get

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I guess a bet of a an understanding of how

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>big cricket is in India, like India is over a

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>billion people. We all know that, like, and there was

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>actually I'll ask you this question to start off. We

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 1>randomly talked about it. Me Brandon earlier about this this

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 1>IPL cricket league that was started by a bunch of

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>farmers and sold off to Russia. Did you hear about this?

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy, right, I have to ask the question and

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 1>what your thoughts are on it, because I've read it

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, this is hilarious, Like I can't

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>believe someone actually thought this was real.

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it was just a big bruise for

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 3>betting or in the end, wasn't it.

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>On some farmers, like just with questionable gear.

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 2>And just just throwing the ball.

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Over whatever you want to call it.

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Pitchy. Oh, this is going to be interesting.

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>She's gonna hate you this. I don't mean this a

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 1>disrespectful idea.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just me and my pretty hard to offend me. Yeah,

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 3>it's it's enormous. It's huge.

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 2>It is like people say, it's like a religion. It

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 2>is kind of like a religion. It's like the I

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 2>p L is the biggest.

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 3>Domestic cricket league in the world, so all the biggest

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 3>stars go and play there. From all over the world,

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 3>and you know, there are times where I've covered a

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 3>game and there's been four international captains playing in the

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 3>one game inside. So the way that I describe it

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 3>as basically like the NBA, there's domestic cricket leads all

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 3>over the world, but that's the one that everyone wants

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 3>to play in, and the muddy is just astronomical to

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 3>the point that the rights just came up recently, and

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<v Speaker 3>my understanding of it was that there were other global

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 3>rights that were being basically put on hold to find

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 3>out who got this and then how much money it

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 3>left them with.

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Because obviously now.

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 3>With huge streaming giants and you know, Disney is ESPN,

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 3>but it's also Star Sports and all this sort of thing,

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 3>how can we piece all the puzzles together. So that's

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 3>how enormous it is. It's it's become like the NBA rights,

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 3>the EPL rights, those those sort of things from an

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 3>international perspective. So it's it's enormous and it's so much fun.

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 3>I came on board during the pandemic, so I mean

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 3>just the.

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Kind of experience itself.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like, yeah, like most of it's been in

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 3>the UAE that I that I've done and in a

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 3>bubble environment. We didn't have crowds for the first couple

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 3>of goals. But this year I find got to do

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.479
<v Speaker 3>it in India with crowds. It was still in a bubble,

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 3>but the you know, the final, for example, was in

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 3>front of more than one hundred thousand people and just

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 3>so much fun and it's awesome and they're so they're

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 3>just so friendly and nice and so passionate, and yeah,

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 3>I've just had the most wonderful experience working over there,

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 3>and both with like the players, the colleagues and the fans,

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 3>but also just had bizarre experiences to like last year

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 3>and going to India and ended up being in the

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 3>peak of the pandemic in the world.

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 1>And they've got a real big too for.

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 3>A while, massive, and I like, I mean, I'd been

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 3>banned from my home state for a year, and now

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 3>I was banned from my entire country, Like we couldn't

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 3>get home because Scott Morrison decided that India was banned.

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 3>So all of a sudden, you're in a foreign country

0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 3>and you don't like, you can't direction no. So even

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 3>that in itself is kind of a crazy story that

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:07.960
<v Speaker 3>ended up in the Malders for two weeks just to

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 3>be able to come home in you know.

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I know it's alternative.

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 3>It's such a bizarre life experience. You know, with thirty

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 3>of Australia's elite cricketers.

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 1>You become closer. I feel like some of them I

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>would have been kind of cool like experience.

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of them were already my mates, so

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, that wasn't a problem at all. It was

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 3>just kind of this weird like And I remember remember

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Kane Williamson, who is a New Zealand's premium cricketer, basically.

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Describe everyone that's listening knows these people just look at

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>my blank face and just say yep, maha and just

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>roll through the next.

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 3>He's the he's the skipper of the Kiwi's and he's

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 3>a very quiet, yeah, softly spoken guy. And I remember

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 3>there was sort of sting rays being fed and he

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 3>sort of just looks at me and goes, how did.

0:32:58.640 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 2>We get here?

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm still wondering because we've just gone from this you know,

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 3>crazy scenario and we're all so concerned about all of

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 3>our mates in India, and that was like the original

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 3>point is that I was, you know, obviously in an

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 3>environment that was a little daunting because I couldn't get

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 3>home and didn't know what was happening.

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 2>But I knew it would be fine.

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a sort of panicking type person, and I'd

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 3>played out a lot of these scenarios before getting on

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 3>the plane in the first place. And my parents are

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 3>pretty good with the fact that I'm that kind of

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 3>person as well. And I was also I'm in the

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 3>same place as Ricky Ponting and Pat Cummens and Steve Smith.

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 3>It's okay, They're not leave me behind, don't you go.

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 3>The Indian mates that I had were unbelievable because they

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 3>were literally every day making phone calls to find oxygen

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 3>and hospital beds for someone they cared about. Every day

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 3>you would hear this, and yet every morning they would

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 3>wake up and they go, how are you going?

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 2>Are you okay?

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 3>Nearly?

0:33:56.120 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Is your family okay? Just the kind and.

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Compassion of people to still ask me how I'm going

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 3>when I know my family was relatively safe, right, Just

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 3>unbelievable human being. So I will always have such a

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 3>special connection with that country from here on in.

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Because of that experience.

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and as you know, like it's when things are hard,

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 3>that's when you find out people's true character. True so true,

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.880
<v Speaker 3>so an incredible experience in so many ways, through highs

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:28.320
<v Speaker 3>and lows.

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 1>We'll move to another place, maybe a bit closer to

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 1>my home now. You recently covered the Super Bowl in Miami. Yes,

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>tell us about that experience.

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:41.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so did Miami in twenty twenty, which was amazing,

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 3>and then LA this year. I was supposed to do

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 3>the one in between as well, but you know pandemic.

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 1>So the way you look at is not a fan

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>of that.

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I miss I miss Brady, but you know

0:34:53.360 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 3>he's unretired, so maybe I'll get another one. Crazy, but well,

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:04.240
<v Speaker 3>is just unbelievable. It's like nothing else in the world

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 3>for a like, I know there's a season, but from

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 3>a global perspective, it's a one off event, right, I

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:15.760
<v Speaker 3>guess a football World Cup final, maybe competes, but pretty

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 3>much everyone has also watched the entire competition unfold as well.

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 3>So as far as just eyeballs tuning in for one game,

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 3>I would say this is unique in that and just

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 3>the ob trucks, so they're the big trucks that broadcasters

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 3>have just to put it to air.

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:35.399
<v Speaker 2>There's hundreds of them.

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 3>I've never experienced anything like it in my life. And

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:43.320
<v Speaker 3>in Miami, for example, the set was like five hundred

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:47.479
<v Speaker 3>meters of purpose built sets on the beach and that's

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.320
<v Speaker 3>not even for the game, that's just for the build

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 3>up for the week. So they're bigger sets than anything

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 3>I've ever worked on in Australia and they're just there

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:57.839
<v Speaker 3>for like the five days building up to it. This

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 3>year it was in la and because I was working

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 3>with ESPN Australia, which is a Disney partner or affiliate,

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:07.399
<v Speaker 3>and our set was so we used the same one

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 3>as the domestic guys did and it was unbelievable.

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Its next level.

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 3>So there's this huge set that's in front of the

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 3>world famous like Disney, Mickey Mouse, Ferris Wheel, just crazy

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 3>and our show this is hilarious. And you will find

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 3>this funny now being in a you know, an American

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 3>who plays in the AFL is that our show was

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 3>going to air on the big screens around Disney, but

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 3>it was our Australian one.

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:40.439
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, for.

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Example, interviewing a feature story with Ben Griffith's former like Richmond, Yes, exactly,

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 3>really good guy, but like people.

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 2>In Disney like, who the hell's the dude with.

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 1>The mustard does have an Australian accent.

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:58.439
<v Speaker 3>And so that was so cool when we realized we'rend

0:36:58.480 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 3>the picture.

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Were like screen.

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 3>They got the photo of me as a twelve year

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:07.360
<v Speaker 3>old with Dopey and I'm like how it started?

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>How?

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 2>And then it was really.

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Cute because there was this little kid he would have been,

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 3>i know, eleven or twelve at the super Bowl.

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Came up to me, little American Kidney.

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Because excuse me, are you the woman that was hosting

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 3>a disney Land? And I'm like, yes, this is the

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 3>colose moment of my life, getting recognized at the Super

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Bowl from hosting a Disney.

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>It's so cool.

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 2>So he's like, can I yes.

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 1>That's it? You're like I would love to.

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 2>It was so cool.

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:40.840
<v Speaker 3>So and it was funny like different people because I

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:42.680
<v Speaker 3>had told people I was going, you know, to the

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:44.959
<v Speaker 3>super Bowl. Obviously that was what I was excited about

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 3>as a sports lover. But when they were watching on

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 3>Instagram and stuff, They're like, hang on.

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 2>What you're a Disneyland Like.

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 3>They were more excited about like the lightsaber that I

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 3>got given, which is basically like a real life lightsaber.

0:37:58.200 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 2>More people were interasion.

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, Nick Revolt, for example, was like how much

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 3>I I swear to God.

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I will buy it? And I was like, no, that

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 2>niece and nephews are getting it.

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:09.240
<v Speaker 1>So it's did you ever go any like pre parties

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that.

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:13.320
<v Speaker 3>I didn't this year because I really wanted to avoid

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:15.959
<v Speaker 3>COVID ahead of NBA All Star Weekend because I knew

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 3>that I had that to look forward to it and

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to put that in jeopardy. But in

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:22.280
<v Speaker 3>Miami I did, yeah, because that was just BEFOREVID.

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Miami in l A. You've picked really good spots.

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 3>I know next year, I'm like, I only do hot super.

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Bowl being a son's lover. That's it. Games. At the

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:35.320
<v Speaker 1>same time, exactly do you picked all the places you

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:38.160
<v Speaker 1>essentially wanted to go to. This is what's happened. But

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>it is an amazing experience. It's tough to describe people

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 1>how big the sorry the Super Bowl is in America,

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:45.360
<v Speaker 1>and it's cool that, Like, I love the fact that

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:47.759
<v Speaker 1>you've got to experience not only one like media and

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 1>America at its best and its biggest kind of like production.

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 1>But I think the game itself. Were you in the stadium? Yeah?

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, so hosted from within the stadium. The first

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.799
<v Speaker 3>time was outside stadium, but went inside to watch the game.

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:04.400
<v Speaker 3>This year was hosting inside the stadium and then watching

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.839
<v Speaker 3>the game as well from there. So and I got

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 3>I got really lucky with the two halftime shows as well,

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 3>because I got like Jalo Snoop and then this year

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 3>I got like eminem and yeah it was.

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 1>How good was that halftime show?

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:21.799
<v Speaker 2>It was so good. I mean, I'm very lucky.

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm very jealous such as I've got to You've done

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 1>some amazing things as we've gone through. I want to

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 1>talk about, I guess, being female in sporting culture here.

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I know it's it's kind of crazy because there's not

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.239
<v Speaker 1>it's it's changed quite a bit over the last few years.

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Females are now kind of with AFLW being a big

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 1>push in Australia, I feel like there's a lot more

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 1>females that are now commentating there on panels and everything else.

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to get your perspective being one of the

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.719
<v Speaker 1>probably the people that started before I guess this change,

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 1>and maybe you're kind of the originals that was in

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:52.879
<v Speaker 1>original females that was in kind of media before all

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>this kind of happened. What is your perspective on how

0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 1>much it's changed in the industry of females.

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:02.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and look, I'll give a shout out because there's

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 3>obviously women that came before me, and every generation of

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 3>women push it a little bit further. And the times

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 3>that I've sort of wanted to give up, and there

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 3>have definitely been times that I've wanted to walk away

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 3>because it's all too hard, I then think, well, wherever

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 3>I quit is where I'm leaving it for the next

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:21.400
<v Speaker 3>lot of women coming through. So the harder that we

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 3>all push, the further we go for them, and then

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:25.799
<v Speaker 3>they can pick up from that spot and push even

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:29.880
<v Speaker 3>harder and keep advancing. So I'm really passionate about it,

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 3>and i think I've gotten more passionate about it the

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 3>older that I get as well, you know, seeing images

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 3>like today the AFLW with all eighteen clubs now involved,

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:40.839
<v Speaker 3>and it just it makes me so happy because I've

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 3>got a you know, a ten year old niece who

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 3>plays footy, She plays with the boys, she plays with

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:46.359
<v Speaker 3>the girl, she loves it.

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:48.160
<v Speaker 2>She goes for freo.

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Because I go for Freo and you know, all of

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 3>a sudden, not only does she have an actual platform

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 3>to advance in that sport that I never had. I

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 3>never to play footy as a kid. I played soccer

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:06.400
<v Speaker 3>with all the boys, but footy didn't exist where I

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 3>was anyway for girls. And I would have loved to

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.719
<v Speaker 3>have played cricket, for example, as a girl, and that

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 3>didn't exist outside of the backyard. So the fact that

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 3>my ten year old niece now does all of these

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 3>things and it's normal for her, but more importantly, it's

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 3>normal for her three little brothers, and her now three

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:26.359
<v Speaker 3>little brothers play footy because they're cool, big sister does,

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:29.879
<v Speaker 3>and their auntie reports on it immediately like that. It's

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 3>completely shifted for that generation of boys. So it's hugely

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:38.839
<v Speaker 3>important we've gotten better on air, there's still a long

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 3>way to go. I would also like to see a

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:44.479
<v Speaker 3>huge shift behind the scenes. There are still so few

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Speaker 3>female producers and definitely female executives in the media landscape,

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 3>and I think that's a really important area because, like

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 3>any diversity, the more opinions you have and different insights

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 3>you have, the better product you're going to get.

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:01.279
<v Speaker 2>At the end of the day.

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Because you're sharing ideas and exchanging thoughts and opinions and values,

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:08.719
<v Speaker 3>and you're going to just get a better product rather

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 3>than the same type of person in the room over

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:12.800
<v Speaker 3>and over and over again.

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:15.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you have any role models growing up? And

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 1>when you looked up to in the media so like

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Landscape that you go, oh, if I can be somewhat

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 1>like her and look up to the way she kind

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>of handled the situation, I can only imagine being one

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 1>of the originals. And I'm not sit here to I

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of be detrimentally talking about kind of media and

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:32.720
<v Speaker 1>the lack of female representation over the past however many years.

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 1>But is there anyone kind of growing up you kind

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 1>of look to And I was like, oh, my gosh,

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:36.880
<v Speaker 1>she's kind of my idol.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Joe Green and Karen Tie.

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 3>With the two for me, there were pretty much two

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 3>of the only women on it when I was younger,

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Tiff Cherry and yeah, those sort of figures as I

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 3>got older, got opportunities. But yeah, Karen Tie has been

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.359
<v Speaker 3>around for quite a long time and he's just an

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 3>incredible person, and so is Joe. You know that whole thing,

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 3>And don't meet your heroes those two you can absolutely

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:09.400
<v Speaker 3>tick off their unbelievable human beings. So they were probably

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:14.279
<v Speaker 3>the two that I looked to. And it's not in

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 3>a sporting landscape, but I you're gonna this. I say

0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 3>that some people find religion. I found Oprah.

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Oprah. Yes, you get the car, you get the car,

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:30.919
<v Speaker 1>you get car. She is she is redefined I think

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>like women in media.

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:36.239
<v Speaker 3>And to be a black woman who had the upbringing

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:38.799
<v Speaker 3>that she did and has achieved what she did in

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 3>the era that she has unbelievable. We I know this

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 3>sounds a bit silly, but we undervalue Oprah because her

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 3>impact on you know, that's what I would watch. I

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:54.600
<v Speaker 3>found her so impressive in the way that she interviewed.

0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 3>She knew when to be humorous, she knew when to

0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:58.000
<v Speaker 3>pull back, she knew when to be a little bit

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 3>more aggressive, she knew when to just be silent. And

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 3>so I kind of married up Mum talking about psychology

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 3>and the way that she would get things out of

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 3>patients and Oprah and the way that she would get

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 3>things out of her subjects.

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 2>And I kind of, you know.

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:12.279
<v Speaker 3>Like to be sort of similar in the way that

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:14.359
<v Speaker 3>sometimes she does really fun stuff and sometimes she does

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 3>really hardcore stuff. And I like to see myself as

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 3>being not Oprah but that versatile.

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I've got a good name for it though.

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:26.840
<v Speaker 3>And I just but she was sort of and so

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:29.799
<v Speaker 3>many things that she, you know, would speak about over

0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 3>and over and over has been the way that I view,

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, the world, listening to the little voice in

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 3>your head and make you know, acknowledging when you feel

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 3>a certain way, because there's a reason why.

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 2>You do all of those sorts of things. Yeah.

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:45.800
<v Speaker 3>So she was and still is one of the great

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 3>influences of my life. If I could meet anyone, it

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:48.879
<v Speaker 3>would be Oprah.

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Oprah. If you have three people you wanted to go

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:52.359
<v Speaker 1>to dinner with, oprahul be one of them.

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I like this question.

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:57.919
<v Speaker 3>My answer this is Barack Obama, Oprah, and my best

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 3>mate Errand so that we could talk about it for years.

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 3>Aaron is gonna get Aaron's getting a set at the table?

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Can you argue with my logic? Though?

0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I just FaceTime someone in to the table. I would

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:18.240
<v Speaker 1>just like use the magic of technology, so smart thinking.

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:20.320
<v Speaker 3>Because then you can sit back, have ones at vast

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:21.839
<v Speaker 3>feelings and you know.

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 2>Just talk about that.

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I reckon they would they would be able to rif

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 1>off each other very.

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 3>Well to exactly like you've got to be strategic about this.

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, like Oprah, I remember Obra was doing

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the interview with the Duke and Duchess something. I'm still

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to get my head around the girl family, but

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.359
<v Speaker 1>that interview is awesome. I love that because she she's

0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:41.960
<v Speaker 1>coming back to the back end of her career. Hour

0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't have to deal with it as much like

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:45.359
<v Speaker 1>she's made her money. She's like done what she wants

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:47.440
<v Speaker 1>to do. She doesn't have to prove anything. And she

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 1>did that to really kind of like tell their genuine

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 1>story behind it. That was the first time I think

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I really became an Oprah fan. She is.

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:54.200
<v Speaker 2>She's amazing.

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, my childhood is just dotted with the Oprah Winfree Show.

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I never saw this going Oprah coming on the podcast.

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:05.120
<v Speaker 2>I have girly things.

0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Oprah, I just love that. Next is gonna

0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:15.080
<v Speaker 1>be all de generous. I'll ask you this, for female

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 1>and sport, what do you think is the next big

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:18.400
<v Speaker 1>hurdle to overcome?

0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 3>I like, I say more women behind the scenes. So,

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 3>for example, I flw in coaching ranks as well. Why

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 3>has it not worked out as well as it probably

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.360
<v Speaker 3>should have. What are we not doing the support people?

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 3>What can we be doing better behind the scenes in

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:41.760
<v Speaker 3>the media, As I say, there should be female executives,

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 3>there should be female producers. And I've actually worked with

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:50.799
<v Speaker 3>more female producers in India in the last two years

0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 3>in cricket than I have in Is.

0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:58.320
<v Speaker 1>There a comparative India media and Australian Is there a

0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:00.120
<v Speaker 1>lot more female representation India than.

0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:05.239
<v Speaker 3>Australia behind the scenes in my experience there has been. Yeah,

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:07.280
<v Speaker 3>there's still a long way to go in India as well,

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 3>but I think we can definitely do more here in

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 3>Australia for those sorts of roles and I would love

0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 3>to see that happen. Just trying to increase the diversity

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.440
<v Speaker 3>on all levels. And we're talking before we started recording

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:22.799
<v Speaker 3>this about Nadini, your new comms.

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Manager's skilessness, very happy.

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, she's a massive, like just a star twenty

0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:32.240
<v Speaker 3>eight year old woman who's just dominating in the AFL

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:36.399
<v Speaker 3>landscape and just makes me feel brighter and happier about

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:39.600
<v Speaker 3>the future to come because she's just an incredible person

0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 3>and just sees the world differently because, as you say,

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:45.320
<v Speaker 3>every lot of women coming through have, you know, hopefully

0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:50.360
<v Speaker 3>a more positive experience than the previous generation. So she

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:54.400
<v Speaker 3>makes me feel happy basically, Like talking to her, I

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:56.960
<v Speaker 3>just go, Okay, we're getting somewhere. Yeah, we're on the

0:47:57.000 --> 0:47:59.279
<v Speaker 3>right path, and there's still a really long way to go,

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 3>but I think think there are some things that are

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:05.359
<v Speaker 3>happening that make me feel much better. But I mean,

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 3>there was another one like earlier this year in Pakistan.

0:48:09.440 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, you would think that that was the kind

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 3>of place that you would have an experience like this

0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:17.200
<v Speaker 3>because of the biases or whatever that we have of

0:48:17.239 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 3>the stereotypes of places. But there was the men's Test

0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:24.920
<v Speaker 3>between Australia and Pakistan. It was the first time in

0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 3>more than two decades that Australia had toured Pakistan because

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 3>of the security concerns, so it was a huge deal

0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:35.320
<v Speaker 3>and we had myself and Zanab co hosting, and Ulush

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 3>who was a former female player and selector, and Simon Kaddich.

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.640
<v Speaker 3>So there were four people and seventy five percent of

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:47.440
<v Speaker 3>us were women hosting a men's test match. Now that

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 3>just doesn't happen. And so for it to happen in

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.360
<v Speaker 3>Pakistan was amazing. And it was cool that it happened

0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:54.319
<v Speaker 3>with Simon Caatdage as well, because I've interviewed him and

0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 3>you had so much to do with him and good

0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 3>mates with him over such a long period of time.

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 3>And it was really ice that he was there and

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:04.040
<v Speaker 3>he thought it was really cool. Yeah, he bought into it,

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:06.040
<v Speaker 3>he brought into it. Yeah, and it wasn't a gimmick.

0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 3>It just happened to be how the roster fell that day.

0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:12.000
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, moments like that, I get goosebunts talking about it,

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 3>but moments like that filled me with a lot of joy.

0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:17.799
<v Speaker 1>It's like we did a little bit of a TV

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:19.320
<v Speaker 1>thing called on the Mark. I don't know if you

0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 1>remember this back in the day, and it's all female cast.

0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I loved it. It was good. Fine, I could just

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:24.680
<v Speaker 1>stay there all day. Now. I got a pie out

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 1>of that day too, which is awesome. It's delicious. It

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:31.040
<v Speaker 1>was delicious. It was like it was thank you Independent

0:49:31.120 --> 0:49:33.959
<v Speaker 1>day and that was all female cast, and I found

0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:36.839
<v Speaker 1>it like that was very different feel in there. We're

0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 1>like you talk about even on your podcast where you

0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:40.520
<v Speaker 1>can I don't know, it's like maybe it's like a

0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:42.719
<v Speaker 1>motherly instinct of like, you know, you just are more

0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:45.319
<v Speaker 1>willing to open up to females than males sometimes, and

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:47.400
<v Speaker 1>you know you're probably not going to cop the backlash

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:50.279
<v Speaker 1>or the banter quote unquote of Australian media if you're

0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of in a female cast. Like I remember being

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 1>on there and I was just like totally comfortable walking

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:56.400
<v Speaker 1>in knew everyone like just said Hi, what's up, and

0:49:56.440 --> 0:49:58.239
<v Speaker 1>just I remember what we talked about, probably my career

0:49:58.239 --> 0:49:59.760
<v Speaker 1>and everything else, you know, but like I just felt

0:49:59.760 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 1>really at ease, like for some reason. And I think

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:05.160
<v Speaker 1>there's something that as a as a person on the

0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 1>other side of the camera, like and maybe you talk

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:10.319
<v Speaker 1>about producers and stuff, that they can maybe realize that

0:50:10.320 --> 0:50:13.200
<v Speaker 1>there is a bit of value to that of having

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:15.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot more females and and things like whether it

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:19.200
<v Speaker 1>be in media shows, you know, sideline stuff like Abby

0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Homes and Daisy Pierce are smashing it in the media

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:23.640
<v Speaker 1>now and they're doing so well, and it's it's great

0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 1>to see him and Daisy's like seeing things with the

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Abby like they know their stuff and it's like they

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:30.080
<v Speaker 1>just slot in like seamlessly, and it's so good to.

0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:33.520
<v Speaker 3>See yeah, And I think like I sort of always

0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:34.920
<v Speaker 3>describe myself as a little sister.

0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Although I'm older.

0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 3>Than pretty much everyone in the AFL now except for

0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:40.320
<v Speaker 3>David Mundy keep going, please, David.

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 2>In roles in commentary teams.

0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:45.799
<v Speaker 3>And stuff, I always sort of describe myself as a

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:47.920
<v Speaker 3>little sister. And I think, you know, you do talk

0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:51.719
<v Speaker 3>to your sisters, to your your girlfriends, your mother, as

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:56.400
<v Speaker 3>you said, more openly, I think about emotional stuff and

0:50:56.480 --> 0:51:00.720
<v Speaker 3>you do because it's not as combative or competitive or whatever.

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:03.040
<v Speaker 3>And you know it's great that boys are getting better

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 3>at talking about their feelings. I think, yeah, but I think, yeah,

0:51:08.040 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 3>it is. There is something to be said for we

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:13.880
<v Speaker 3>come from a different perspective and you just don't know

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:15.680
<v Speaker 3>what that's going to bring to the table unless you

0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:16.720
<v Speaker 3>let us sit at the table.

0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:19.719
<v Speaker 1>That's so true. Is there anyone you look at now

0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:21.640
<v Speaker 1>that's coming through the ranks, even for me, if I

0:51:21.760 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 1>wor anything like that you just thoroughly impressed with.

0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:27.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm a big fan of Chloe Malloy, who's

0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:28.359
<v Speaker 3>obviously your She.

0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Actually stocked me one day going to get a scanned,

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:34.040
<v Speaker 1>and she was like apologizing as she was stocking with.

0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Us friends with sorry. Yeah, it's like it's like she.

0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:40.879
<v Speaker 1>Was kind of like she was apologizing but also having

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:42.680
<v Speaker 1>to ask the questions. Yeah, it is, you like walking

0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:43.960
<v Speaker 1>up me like I'm not going to tell you anything.

0:51:43.960 --> 0:51:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything yet, and then she sends me

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:47.759
<v Speaker 1>a message after she's like, oh my gosh, I'm so so,

0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm so embarrassed. I was like just doing your job,

0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:52.239
<v Speaker 1>like it doesn't really bother me. But it was weird

0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:55.400
<v Speaker 1>seeing like someone who's like on partophilel like program and

0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:57.759
<v Speaker 1>then also like asking me like questions that the media

0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:00.480
<v Speaker 1>is trying to like get out of me. But she is.

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:02.359
<v Speaker 1>She's lovely, she's so funny.

0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:05.880
<v Speaker 3>She's absolutely gone you know, basketball as well obviously as

0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:09.719
<v Speaker 3>well as footy and just a lovely person. And yeah,

0:52:09.760 --> 0:52:12.239
<v Speaker 3>so she's probably the one that i'd pick out of that.

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so what's next for you?

0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:20.400
<v Speaker 3>So I am heading off to Europe in about twelve

0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:29.319
<v Speaker 3>hours still pass right, Yeah my flats like two weeks ago. Yeah,

0:52:29.360 --> 0:52:32.440
<v Speaker 3>so I'm heading over to Europe just for travel because usually,

0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:34.560
<v Speaker 3>as we've sort of touched on, I'm doing footy, but

0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:37.720
<v Speaker 3>sorted most of my work is overseas at the moment.

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:40.319
<v Speaker 3>And with the Indian Premier League and stuff, so I

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:43.440
<v Speaker 3>get to just travel for fun over the next few weeks, which.

0:52:43.239 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm really excited about. I've never been able to.

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:47.440
<v Speaker 3>Do it this time a year usually sort of go

0:52:47.480 --> 0:52:50.759
<v Speaker 3>on that October November range, so I'm excited for that.

0:52:51.239 --> 0:52:54.840
<v Speaker 3>And then yeah, Women's Basketball World carp and Men's Cricket

0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:57.600
<v Speaker 3>World Cup later in the year, so it's good.

0:52:57.800 --> 0:52:58.279
<v Speaker 2>It's fun.

0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:02.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm sort of my two pass in you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>professional environment and live live sport, you know, major events

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<v Speaker 3>and long form interviews. So if I can keep sort

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<v Speaker 3>of ticking those two things off and then have time

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<v Speaker 3>to travel and spend time with family and friends, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty happy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very jealous of this whole trip to Europe. It

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<v Speaker 1>is sumwhere it's prime time. It's one of the downsides

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<v Speaker 1>of playing AFLs, you never get the European summer, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you get to experience it. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say personally a massive thank you for coming on. My

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<v Speaker 1>mom's gonna be so pumped for this podcast. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lie, but and honestly, you're breaking the glass ceiling

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<v Speaker 1>and I love it. You're You're a perfect person. For it, who,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said before, as someone everyone seems to really

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<v Speaker 1>want to open up to, and you're just a very

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<v Speaker 1>calming personality. So I want to say personally thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on the podcast, but also thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>being such a shining light in the media as a female.

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks so much for coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you very much for having me in all

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<v Speaker 2>the kind words as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And you may not know this name, but as Rove

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<v Speaker 3>McManus would always finish his show with, say how do

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<v Speaker 3>your mom for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Rove, I do know.

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<v Speaker 3>Rov got Sen