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Speaker 1: Now we also know that the Alice Springs mayor well

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Speaker 1: and the council more generally have certainly been calling for

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Speaker 1: the Police Commissioner to come to Alice Springs and have

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Speaker 1: also been saying for quite some time that we need

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Speaker 1: over the summer period. The Mayor of Alice Springs, Matt Patterson,

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Speaker 1: joins me. Now, good morning, Matt, Good morning, Kenny. Matt.

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Speaker 1: Utterly appalling behavior that we saw yesterday. These teenagers now

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Speaker 1: seventeen and sixteen year old have been eight week old

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Speaker 1: baby suffer serious head injuries. I mean, at what point

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Speaker 1: is enough enough?

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Speaker 2: Well, I thought we got to that point a year

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Speaker 2: ago or so, To be quite honest with you, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know you. I don't know where to from here, Katie,

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Speaker 2: I just lost for words, to be honest. I mean

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Speaker 2: happening broad daylight. Now, this is the people living with

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Speaker 2: fear twenty four other day. And I've always said, you

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Speaker 2: can measure the cost of windows, and you can measure

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Speaker 2: the cost of a broken car, but you can't measure

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Speaker 2: what is happening between people's is And you know, my

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Speaker 2: heartbreaks with the family involved here, and I just hope

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Speaker 2: that everyone's going to be okay.

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Speaker 1: So do I you know, and I think as a

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Speaker 1: parent of young people, I know you're you know, you've

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Speaker 1: got young children. You think about the vulnerability, vulnerability of

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Speaker 1: own home and something like that happening. It honestly, it

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Speaker 1: makes me want to cry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and I think, you know, I think

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Speaker 2: that's the way you've got to think about it. Luck

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Speaker 2: with what if it was you, you know, like, what

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Speaker 2: if it was your wife or your husband who was

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Speaker 2: in that situation. I mean, this is real, this is

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Speaker 2: this is in a movie scene. This is real life

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Speaker 2: that's happening in our springs. And I think, now this

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Speaker 2: has to be the trigger where we don't talk about

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Speaker 2: things anymore. This is time for action, and I think

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Speaker 2: it is the test for the chief and the police commissioner.

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Speaker 2: But you know, words won't words won't keep the community

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Speaker 2: satisfied anymore. We on need drastic action and that's going

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Speaker 2: to have to happen today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it absolutely is. Now we know the chief Minister

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Speaker 1: and the commissioner are in town, Matt Are they meeting

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Speaker 1: with the Council. What needs to happen.

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Speaker 2: Here, I'm not sure as of yet. I've just received

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Speaker 2: a Texas morning from the chief saying she was coming.

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Speaker 2: She extended the invitation just so I hope we can meet,

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Speaker 2: but haven't heard anything back. But obviously she's just touched

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Speaker 2: obviously I think she'd need to meet with.

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Speaker 1: I think so too. I mean, look, I don't know

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Speaker 1: exactly what needs to happen. I don't know exactly what

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Speaker 1: the answers are. Original youth who are running a mark,

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Speaker 1: not just youth by the sounds of it, you know,

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Speaker 1: people of older ages as well. You know, she had

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Speaker 1: said that it's not just you know, we don't just

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Speaker 1: ice and better means, and that, you know, the reality

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Speaker 1: of it is that we probably need the Australian Federal

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Speaker 1: Police to come in and help out for a while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I tend to agree with that. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think one calling for help from AFP alreadio for whoever

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Speaker 2: it may be. And Robin Lambley was on radio just

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Speaker 2: on local radio with Brass just before and she made

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Speaker 2: a good point that this is probably too big for

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Speaker 2: us now as a community. It's probably too big for

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Speaker 2: us to fix. So we do need help from Camber.

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Speaker 2: We need extra police here, and I think that's the

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Speaker 2: first point, is to have the community feel safe, is

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Speaker 2: going to need extra police here and and then go

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Speaker 2: from there. I don't know what else we can do.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, this is broad daylight. We've know'suke about

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Speaker 2: the curfew. I mean, it was thirty in the afternoon,

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Speaker 2: so this is I don't forget that it's the last

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Speaker 1: But Matt, the other part of this is Marian Scrimjaw

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Speaker 1: we've been seriously seriously let down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, correct, And I think this is the

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Speaker 2: a point that's true. But at the moment in the

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Speaker 2: very short term. We need to put all these criminals

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Speaker 2: because we can't continue to go like this. And I

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Speaker 2: mean you can go back to the broken window theory

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Speaker 2: in New York. This is where you have to start,

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Speaker 2: and that's heavy petty crimes and work your way up

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Speaker 2: nothing will be tolerated, and there will be constant We

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Speaker 2: can't talk about it anymore. You know. We're all fortunately

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Speaker 2: that those people who are saying that Dalen's failing will

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Speaker 1: It's it's out of control. There's no other way to

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Speaker 1: put it. We've all had a gutful of it. It

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Speaker 1: absolutely needs to change. And I will say that the

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Speaker 1: to do over a long period of time in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: in terms of the legislation changing and that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: And this is, you know, this is what the people

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Speaker 1: of Alice Springs no doubt expect.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's too much for the public to

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Speaker 2: be you want to be kept safe, and I think

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Speaker 2: that's got to be the number one priority of all governments.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I've run out of words, Katie. We've

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Speaker 2: been talking about this for three years. What's the trigger now, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's a trigger for an emergency.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you would think, like, how many of these

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Speaker 1: trigger points do we actually need? Like you had a

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Speaker 1: you had a police officer driven at who had to

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Speaker 1: there's a carload full of people in a stolen vehicle

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Speaker 1: head injuries. Like when is enough enough? And this is

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Speaker 1: just Alice, Like we know there's the same kind of

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Speaker 2: And it discontinues on and this is what I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is the plant address the caption now that you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm really concerned about if the messages messaging isn't right

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Speaker 2: today from the Chief Minister or Police Commission and what happens,

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Speaker 2: what's the what happens with Alla Springs. I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: we're so desensitized by what's happening now. It really concerns me.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think the federal government need to

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Speaker 2: us now. And you know, it's one thing after the other,

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Speaker 2: all of those things you just mentioned. If they were

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Speaker 2: in the big city, people would be falling over themselves here.

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Speaker 2: But that's in a spate of a week YELP event

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Speaker 2: in our springs.

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Speaker 1: Well, and then you've got the Prime Minister out announcing

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Speaker 1: his new footy team for P ANDNG. Mate, you've got

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Speaker 1: to get to Alice Springs. You've got to do something there.

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Speaker 2: I'll be reaching out to his office after this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Matt Patterson, Yeah, it truly does, mate. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time. I know that, you know, both you

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Speaker 1: and I are pretty lost for words on this situation,

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Speaker 1: not only for Alice Springs but the crime right around

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. I've been talking about it till I'm

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Speaker 1: blue in the face, till I feel like my head's

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Speaker 1: about to explode, and you know, unfortunately things continue on

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Speaker 1: We will talk to you again very soon. Please keep

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Speaker 1: us up to date as anything comes to hand today.

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Speaker 2: We'll do.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, thank you, thanks mate,